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Im curious what Sup Forums thinks of space X and the future of privatization in an industry like near-future space exploration/tourism.

We need to save whites on earth first. These fucking kikes are looking to steal everything from us, why should we spend our dying breath on space travel if we won't be around? Fuck that. We race war now, space later

all hail Emperor Musk

idk but the first thought when the reused booster made it to MECO was of the arguments I'd had with people on Sup Forums who still doubted spacex in 2017. They're legit

Hopefully BE4 is a success as well, seems like the logical path forward is a ULA/BO merger for a stable duopoly but jeff beezers ego would never let that happen.

Careful, or you'll summon that space-travel-is-unfeasible autist.

why is the saturn 5 so fucking big?

Cause it's gotta carry the nukes, goy.

Tourism would be a very small niche like Everest climbing.
Exploration won't be manned, too slow, too expensive, useless.
Same for prospecting/ mining.
Colonisation why not, but only in the form of a rich sect, I don't see any state doing that (no reason).

To expand on that a little: ULA is an excellent launch services provider but their tech is aging. Too little investment, and it turns out reusability is going to be a major threat to their ability to compete for launches in the future. Their current plan to achieve booster reuse is garbage.

Blue Origin is nothing but a technology company.

SpaceX is integrating novel tech and launch services.

Space tourism is piss, BO will make very little money from it compared to lofting satellites and will probably kill someone. They'll stay alive as long as Jeff can keep the money flowing and/or they can sell tech to ULA.

Meanwhile, the cash cow Amazon has contracted hepatitis in the form of rampant fraud and counterfeiting while Jeff is off trying to be a spaceman.

blue avian. subtle.

blue origin = blue avian

It sent astronauts to the Moon. Needed more fuel than a rocket whose payload is only going to a transfer orbit around the earth.

Because it had to (supposedly) go to the moon.

This is a 30,000 year old man made spaceship.

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I'm ambivalent about Elon Musk but in general I think privatization of space exploration is a good idea for the same reason that privatization of just about everything is a good idea. Private profit-driven enterprises nearly always end up creating better technology at lower cost.

Of all the CIA disinfo Ops, this has to be the most retarded.

>tfw can't get over New Glenn looking like a vibrator

But what if the whites all left earth and established a free whites-only colony on Mars or Venus? Let the shitskins destroy themselves then come back and reclaim the planet in a couple decades?

>Aaaah! After ten thousand years I'm free. It's time to conquer Earth!

Launching shit into orbit can be privatized because plenty of big corporations need satellites in orbit. But actual space science or exploration is expensive as hell, completely unprofitable, and will never be privatized (and no, Elon Musk is never going to fucking Mars).

SpaceX is basically the UPS of space, and UPS doesn't send expeditions to the Antarctic or up Everest.

>Private profit-driven enterprises nearly always end up creating better technology at lower cost.
enjoy being cucked into the infinity of the universe

>Private profit-driven enterprises nearly always end up creating better technology at lower cost.
And how will you be paying for your $250,000 heart operation, user?

>implying space is real
>Implying the earth is round

>USA has no human spaceflight capability since the death trap that was the Shuttle got shit-canned (10 years too late)
>Lel you have to pay the ruskies to send your astronauts to the ISS on a rocket designed in the 60s
>ULA and Atlas are pork-barrel enterprises that do nothing but inflate launch costs with 80s era technology and cost-plus contracts
>Orbital ATK uses russian engines found in a Siberian warehouse that occasionally explode
>Arianespace == ULA in terms of pork barreling, only kept afloat due to fucktons of defence contract money

SpaceX is applying sensible economics to spaceflight. Elon keeps using the analogy of commercial jet liners and he's right - you need to be able to use rockets more than once or we are never getting off this rock.

You're right on exploration, that won't be manned for a couple hundred years, at least.
But mining WILL require people there, and china has real plans on that for 2018-2024.
Colonization of space won't come from states, of course, they'll be from corporations.
You'll get McDonalds and Nestlé space stations/lunar stations soon enough. And when this will be a thing, so will be large scale tourism.
Everest is niche because you need 6 months to physically prepare for it, and the trip takes weeks. Without talking about the fact that you can't even try if you're weak, have certain diseases or even if you're pregnant.

t. communist

With the top quality health insurance I get from my job . What, do you not have that? Probably because you're a Starbucks barista who could literally be replaced by a trained chicken.

Not an argument.

spacex and tesla are reddit: the companies

elon musk is based, hes a glorified business man. But he capitalizes on the dumb upper middle class liberal millenials. He himself knows that hes not saving the planet or anything, but hes a businessman. Nothing else

This sums it up perfectly.

>SpaceX isn't working on getting mars currently

Those engines found were extremely well developed closed combustion engines that are extremely hard to engineer and outpaced any US designs

>Colonization of space won't come from states, of course, they'll be from corporations.
Corporations with no benefit goal... Living on Mars just for the (suicidal) pleasure to settle there is an adventure, not a commercial project, that's why I assume some rich sect will do it.

>Everest is niche because you need 6 months to physically prepare for it, and the trip takes weeks. Without talking about the fact that you can't even try if you're weak, have certain diseases or even if you're pregnant.
And so is a space trip. You need physical training, not being sick and of course pregnant women won't be allowed in an irradiated environment. Not to mention you'll need to be rich.

All in all there will be very few humans in space and there will probably be no McDo on the Moon for the dozen of engineers working there.

Achievements of the NK33:
-Destroyed N1. Turbopump failure.
-Destroyed Antares. Turbopump failure.
-???

Because all the camera and stage equipment to fake the moon landings weigh a lot

Someone post the cost breakdown of SpaceX Launching, Recovering, Refurbishing a rocket and I'll totally believe it is a viable business model cause right now. Protip you can't ;^)

Can't wait for six richfags to burn in bluememe shit as Elon sips his tea

>no benefit
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I mean, yeah, there's not much point on living on mars. There's nothing to mine or anything worth on this rock. But asteroid belts? The moon?
The corporations will build spacestations/bases to provide settlements for miners. Just as simple as that.
Then /maybe/ we'll come to a point where earth is no more sustainable, and from there we'll colonize mars.
And at this point, we'll have the technology to survive on Mars, easily.
Transhumanism isn't just sci-fi.
Or maybe terraform it to create a giant farm.

>Everest
Yes, for now, because it costs so much to send people there, you can't risk sending anyone.
In 50-100 years from now, it'll be much, much much cheaper and certainly safer. And medical progress will surely help about sick people/harsh lift-off.

Science-bro here.

You may ask questions you desire the answers to.

>space X and the future of privatization in an industry like near-future space exploration/tourism

Something to understand regarding any technological advancement on the scale of the industrial revolution; There's only two things that can spur forward such drastic acceleration of science. The first is the discovery new energy creation on the scale of an order of magnitude in excess of the prior technological maximum, and the second is warfare.

The space race was a result of the cold war. A race to discovered the limits of human technology as a way to scare off potential rivals to the throne of dominant superpower on the planet. America won. Not necessarily because it got to the moon first, but because it got there.

The future? We won't be entering the space age for quite a while. We're taking our very first privatised steps, but those will be small and calculated support missions to government ok'd operations.

Once we crack hydrogen fission? We'll be zipping around the solar system almost immediately.

Once we crack the manipulation of the higgs boson? Mars will seem like a plane ride.

Melbourne or Canberra?

The shithole that is NSW

Urgh man, we are so fucked. They talk about a housing shortage when there is a decent fulltime job shortage. I've been Uber'ing all week and all the drivers want to eat our politicians alive. Really depressing =/

manipulating subatomic particles would be a physicists wet dream

M8, you don't even understand the level of understanding i feel.

Parents were drug addicts, and i've been unemployed save a few cash in hand jobs that were 10 hours a week my whole life, about a year ago i got my first proper job.

5 months in, i was replaced by a 457 visa worker whom the company partially paid in chicken eggs.

I'm waiting on a visa to the US, and then i'm fucking gone. I will be taking a shit on my Australian passport.

>housing shortage
We ain't got a shortage of shit but capitalism. The crash is coming, and it will be a thing of historic damage to the Australian economy. We'll immediately be swamped by overseas investors, and our country will descend into an economic clone of Africa during the late 70's.

Well, we may have to wait until the next iteration of particle smashing technology. Once we can squeeze dark matter/energy out of spacetime we can perhaps understand what we're working with, fundamentally.

>Once we crack hydrogen fission? We'll be zipping around the solar system almost immediately.
While that sounds about right, how many decades have we been working on new fission technology? How much actual progress has been achieved?
With all the new materials that we get each year, I am sure several kinds of fission might be viable, lucurative even - I just worry that it not might become viable anytime soon, if even in our lifetimes.

Wow, I guess I'm not the only one thinking of leaving Australia as well. Good luck man and yeah thing is this country will descend into Rhodesia/South Africa Tier destruction in our lifetimes. I want to leave as well, how did you go about networking in the US for a visa?

90% of NASA's budget is CIA spook stuff. What they're doing is anyone's guess.

>How much actual progress has been achieved?
In regards to hydrogen fission? If we had that technology, we wouldn't know about it for some time. I do not personally believe that the united states would share that advance if they did.

The same thing happened with computing. A national secret of Britain and the CIA for many, many decades. Invented during the second world war. Imagine how different the world would be if computing technology was thrown to the public after turing cracked the enigma code.

It's not a matter of when, but will they even let us have it?

It absolutely will. An extractive economy which focuses on resource exploitation will always descend into further extractive economic principles elsewhere, and we already have.

>how did you go about networking in the US for a visa?
I happened to meet a woman and fell in love, asked her to marry me. I never gave any thought to escaping, i was always resigned to my fate here. But she's absolutely fantastic, and i knew i had to leave to be with her.

Other than that, i can't see any way to get in. Sorry bro, i'll pray for you.

Space X isn't private. They get a fucking ton of subsidies from the government.

Get a labor job, pussy.

It was a labor job, retard.

I've lived in your country, i know how fat and stupid you fucks are.

How dare you speak to me, you jimmy johns for breakfast, smash burger for lunch, Eureka pizza for dinner fuck.

>I deeply miss your food.

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thats what they are afraid of, its why they sabotaged NASA and are probably doing the same to private companies unless they control them. they aren't going to let us leave. who else would feed them?

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dude, it isn't any better over here. H1B fuckers take out jobs all the time. But your more than welcome to come.

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>It absolutely will. An extractive economy which focuses on resource exploitation will always descend into further extractive economic principles elsewhere, and we already have.
>>how did you go about networking in the US for a visa?
>I happened to meet a woman and fell in love, asked her to marry me. I never gave any thought to escaping, i was always resigned to my fate here. But she's absolutely fantastic, and i knew i had to leave to be with her.
>Other than that, i can't see any way to get in. Sorry bro, i'll pray for you.
Oh fuck, when do you think the crash will happen as I am thinking of fleeing to South East Asia or is it to late?

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Don't go to Asia.

The greenhouse effect is about the ramp up to the point of no return, the average global temperature is currently 1.1 degrees. A century ago it was -0.5c. Super-volcanos barely produce such drastic alteration in the earths climate.

Anyone living near equator is in for a bad, bad time, my friend. You're going to see mass immigration from Africa up through Egypt. Europe is going to become the 'middle east' over the coming centuries, absolutely guaranteed.

You'd be better off in Australia if you can't get to America. Honestly, mate.

Oh fuck, so basically I should just bunker down here for chimpout, like independent water and energy supply/SHTF?

Naw nothing like that, just try and find work that is universally applicable to any continent and you'll be fine.

At the moment I am a Minor Project Manager and Drafter for a small metal fabrication and engineering shop, am I safe?

M8 you've got a job, that's far more than i've got going for me. Or 99% of people in my position. You'll be fine, it's the people who were born to idiot parents that'll be struggling.

thanks mate, good luck