What's a red pilled way to get over addictions? My problem is adderall and chewing tobacco

What's a red pilled way to get over addictions? My problem is adderall and chewing tobacco.

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Try not being a weak minded degenerate.

After Iraq i drank a lot. Now i never do. Gym, healthy diet and Jiu Jitsu.

You simply just fucking stop.

Just stop fag. that's not even a hard thing to get over you wuss

Just stop.

that adderall is gonna fuck you up, stop taking it for a little while and see what happens.

motivation to not fuck your brain up.

Gym, cardio. Daily. Don't go two days without breaking a sweat.

Also. You could try getting really, really, really high. Like eat a few hundred mg worth of pot edibles and then just focus on your desire to break your addiction and the negative effects of failing to do so.

Jesus.

Convince yourself its more of an inconvenience and you'll stop

as poorly as this will go over here, the bit about getting extremely, uncomfortably high on edibles does work and i can personally vouch for it

>Be me.
>Chewed Cope straight for 13 years.
>Two cans a day.
>Quit cold turkey for no reason 8 months ago.
>Still get easily pissed off for no reason.

Try chewing sunflower seeds.

Cut yourself every time you relapse. Humans are sheep that only respond to force.

Jiu Jitsu on Adderall is fucking tight tho. Learning those grappeling combos becomes a breeze.

I just smoked weed... No really

Adderall is the worst, I'm sorry you're in that hell hole, I've been there. You're going to have to be a lazy worthless piece of shit for a couple weeks while you kick it. Depending on how long and how much you've been using, it could take a year before your brain is working normally and heathily, but the biggest hump is the first two weeks - month.

Adderall is a hard one dude good luck. Cold turkey is the only way, dont ever think you can cut down slowly thatll just be torture.

Trust me on this one. Get so high that you are scared that you broke your brain. 24 hours later, maybe 48, when you feel "normal," the last thing you will want to do is rev your brain up. There is also some science involved with the addiction circuit and resetting some of the dopaminergic neurons.

Take a long break from adderal. I stopped about a month ago because I was taking about double what I was prescribed. I was unmotivated for like 3 days then I was fine. Everyone here is giving you solid advice
Just fucking stop

My problem is gambling... any advice?

Tobacco is good for your health. I smoke around 13 to 18 cigarettes a day and I'm still alive and well!

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t. nosugar, nofat, nofap, nofiction, novidya e.t.c.

When you do this shit you just get an instant happiness and afterwards you feel nothing, stop being shortsighted.
Become an ubermensch today, it's easy and you'll be happier if you stop

Probably look up nofap forums, no matter what addictions you have, they can motivate you
>he was forced to fight for Israel
I'm sorry

Learn statistics
>this many jews/retards in one thread
the HURR OVERDOSE ones are especially killing me, did you see that in tv or what?

I had to use nicotine patches to kick dip, I also quit with my boyfriend, having someone else go through quitting with you is great motivation. With regards to quitting adderall, just realize that your life is a lie when you are on drugs and it'll make you feel ashamed and want to quit. When I quit hard drugs I smoked and dipped constantly for about 6months then I quit tobacco, so you could always try to quit adderal then chew.

>Le just stop fags
Literally the "Just bee urself" of addiction. I really envy you faggots who were born without gaping holes in your souls that you had to find a ways to fill since you were a kid. Do you think that people who are addicted to drugs want to continue? Do you think that a person who cannot suffer being sober can just stop? Fucking retards. You think that you are badass ubermensch but in reality you are just hurting people with weaker phychs who want advice on how to be stronger. Nobody with an addictive personality has chosen this life.

What did it to me is the idea that I was just wasting my time and money on this shit because I had no useful hobbies I cared about. Once I started putting effort into my life again I started feeling better. I still have the urge to use but it's becoming manageable

How am I retarded user? I was Just stating a fact.

Read the war of art

That's how my mother quit smoking. You gain weight very easily if you lots of them.

Fuck right off. Just stopping is the only way out. nobody is born with any gaping hole in their soul you faggot, saying that to an addict gives them the support they need to stay an addict for the rest of their lives

Get arrested and threatened with 5+ years in a private prison if you violate probation
You just have to pay the state more tax than usual and be a good goyim

Go to /fit/, obey the sticky.

Sup Forums is not /fit/

Pathetic.

Just stop is the real advice. And, perhaps more importantly, don't restart. Stop is less difficult than getting started again. After a few hours or months or whatever.

You'll need to accept a lot of blah to stop. You don't have your thing to throw at your life and juice it up any longer. If you're substantially dependent it will be a large part of your identity and social network. Cutting all that loose will be fairly cataclysmic, bit there you go, the other option is to continue doing something that you feel is wrong.

You're just not ready. No point in even trying if you're not because you'll just disappoint yourself. Many people hit a certain point and stop. Usually a bit older.

Hello, my name is user. And I'm addicted to shitposting on Sup Forums

YES. THEY. DID.

Addiction is NOT a disease.

When you donate blood, they don't screen you for addiction.

Just admit you want to do it. You do.
If you didn't, you wouldn't. It really is that simple.

>do you think fat people really want to eat so much?
That's your argument.

Looks good, thanks. Should I read the follow up as well?
No, nobody is, but many find themselves like this in a very early age - if they were not born with it they at least grew up with it and it is embedded in their psychology. I don't intend to excuse drug addiction with any emotional shortcomings, but the fact remains that emotional shortcomings are the thing that prevents individuals from being sober over long periods of time.

Fuck right off cunt. All you have to do is stop doing it. That's the only step involved. But you're weak so you're going to make excuses why you can't.

Have you read Allen Carr's easy Way to Stop Smoking book?

Read it - currently a month no cigs - turns out you were just being a dick and the solution is to just stop.

Adderall isn't that hard to stop. It will make you foggy and lazy for weeks or months after depending on how long you've taken it. I took it for like 15 years and quitting has fucked me up, but it's better to be off it.

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>Stop is less difficult than getting started again.

Quitting is not too too much trouble, avoid restarting is the real issue, is what I meant.

Stoner faggot reporting in. I have been smoking for at least 7 years, 3 of them heavily, and still going strong. I have been holding a quite tough job for 6 years whist studying in the meantime. Had at least 50-55 excess kilos on weight, 140 in total. Obviously, I couldnt handle my munchies and had a fucked up eating disorder. 3 yrs ago I lost 35kg w/o going to gym, dieting nor stopped smoking. Now, started gym and eating kind of ok and I have lost another 10kg in 2 months.

You dont have a weaker psych faggot, you just make imaginary excuses for your "issue".

You're lucky. You have something to struggle with. Some people's lives are boring.

Addiction is not a disease, it is a symptom. And guess what, anorexia/obesity are often too symptoms of deeper emotional problems. Both of those things should be treated properly, which means treating the cause and not the symptom, or developing real effective strategies on how to avoid the symptoms of your emotional condition.

>I can't stop because i'm just different and it's too hard for me ):

shut the fuck up faggot you're making excuses for yourself. if you can't muster up the self awareness and motivation to stop hurting yourself then you deserve whatever you fucking get you lazy cretin

amphetamine is easy to withdrawal from, it just makes you sleepy and hungry for about a week.

I'm a recovered alcoholic for 5 years now, alcohol destroyed my life more than once.

Addiction to anything is 99% personal (or mental) issues, and 1% the substance.

Get pro help if you're too weak to quit by yourself.

Moron. Being bloodborne has nothing do with a clinical presentation of the body being classified as a disease. Addiction is a disease by any medically accepted definition. Your neurons literally rewire and strengthen certain connections through your frontal cortex. This is referred to as the addiction circuit. Some people have genetically different synaptic plasticity and thus have easier/harder times dealing with addiction. Regardless of your uneducated opinion, OP should know that cells in his brain (and elsewhere) are in a physiologically abnormal (disease) state. So go fuck yourself.

You must realize that being an addict and redpilled is an oxymoron. If you want to continue being a degenerate, you can't hold redpilled political opinions without being a hypocrite.

The "cause" is you.
You want to engage in this behavior.
The only way to "cure" it. Is stopping the behavior yourself.
That is what all of these "treatments" boil down to at the end.
You change your mind and stop.
You just use whatever placebo you want to to justify it to yourself. Medicine, diet, whatever. But the ultimate decision is you just admitting to yourself that you want to stop. Then you stop.
The end.

You just do it until you don't want to anymore. Then you stop.

Lots of people replace their addictions with something less harmful. This does not solve the problem.

source: was an alcoholic

Mental fortitude

I was addicted to heroin and I agree. Taking all the redpills (and some whitepills when needed) got me off it.

Never fall for the blackpill guys, it's counterproductive even if true

>get over addictions

you dont seem to understand addictions.

>not drinking, smoking, and gambling
Slack jawed nazi fagboys around here.

You obviously don't get it or pretend to not get it, it's not about the drugs, it's about sobriety. If it was about getting high I'd be just a normie degenerate that does drugs for the experience. People who are addicted to drugs cannot be sober, and they have had severe trouble with sober life well before they have ever touched drugs. What they need is not to stop wanting to do drugs, they need to start wanting to be sober and functional.

You are being a bitch.

Bill Burroughs, junkie, homosexual and criminal was against all forms of control.
He was also very patriotic. Why does 'redpilled' have to mean some idiotically narrow version of adolescent nazism? You got the idea from a b-grade sci-fi film.
Fuckin Norway, no wonder you look like a garden salad with legs.

>being bloodborne

Addiction isn't real. Drugs are pleasurable so you continue to take then. Stop being a degenerate hedonist.

Prove you're not an addict yourself.

Give up Sup Forums permanently. Prove it baby. No excuses. Just give it up.

>Bill Burroughs, junkie, homosexual and criminal
>was against all forms of control.
what a surprise.

>narrow version of adolescent nazism
call it what you want, but redpilled to me means believing in preserving your race, nation and yourself. pic rel

>I really envy you faggots who were born without gaping holes in your souls that you had to find a ways to fill since you were a kid.


That's why you need Jesus my jew brother.

My poison of choice was alcohol. Started around 15 and never, ever not even once had the "I think I've had enough" message that normie brains get after a few drinks. Countless run-ins with the police, fights, sluts and waking up in strange places. The only thing I desired was to get completely wasted and fuck my shit up. Went into work hungover literally everyday in my 20's but got my job done.

The only reason I say that is it is very obvious I have always had some nature/nurture combo that uses alcohol as a nihilistic deathwish...but even with that experience I can tell you that the disease model of addiction is bullshit. I don't have a disease and neither do you. Addiction is 100% of the time substituting for a lack in your development of personality. Its up to you to determine who you want to be and go for it. The moment you give an addict a toolset that
>1.gives their life meaning
>2.establish real goals in that context and >3.provides an effective means to get there
a life is transformed. Thats why 12 step is effective only in those who really believe in higher powers.

I'm not a 12 stepper and think the addiction treatment industry is full of shit. But finding your hypothetical higher power is necessary. You need something to transcend the misery preceding your addictions or you will just find something else to sink your storm cloud of a mind into like Sup Forums or video games. While ignoring your purpose. Sort yourself out.

I've taken over 300 mgs and went in to psychosis after being awake for 3 days

Well I did quit heroin (IV 4-5 years of use), so there's that. With that experience, I know I could quit Sup Forums anytime, but it doesn't have a negative effect on my life, so why should I.

Just stop. Be a fucking man and stop your bullshit.
Cold turkey is the best way.

No lie. You go 3+ days without sleep on a stim until you've broken your mind to the point where when you look at your hand and you don't recognize it or you look in a mirror and you don't recognize yourself, that will almost certainly steer you sober for at least a few months.

Been there. Alpha-pvp or alpha-php are very useful for this because they get absolutely batshit after 3+ days awake.

caffeine helped me. it's substituting one drug for another but caffeine is much safer than the shit i was doing.

>but it doesn't have a negative effect on my life
I was looking for this. Then you know what true addiction is, not just basic compulsive behaviors.

Alright. Just checking. Also, great work. That shit's a bitch to kick.

>"Waaaaaaaaaaah, waaaaaaaaaaaaah, I fucked my life up with dope because of the ass-gaping 9tails demon fox in my soul. It wasn't my choice to shove a needle in my arm for no reason, I SWEAR!"

Why do you have such a problem with admitting that it is a "disease?" It isn't an excuse. It is just a fact. And you speak like every sufferer of the disease that I have ever heard. The fact of the matter is that consciousness is essentially the result of neuronal connection and computation. A substance is called "addictive" if it has structural, chemical properties that can affect dopaminergic neurons in the brain that are wired to control centers in your brain. With time under the presence of these substances, the neurons will prune certain synapses and reform others within the frontal cortex. The frontal cortex controls judgement - weighs outcome of decisions. The "Addiction of Disease" model only recognizes that the brain is in a state that it was not encoded to develop into due the intake of a substance. It then looks at methods to reverse that state. It is widely accepted that the brain itself is capable of using consciousness to alter neuronal connections and is why first line treatment is always psychological other than to treat withdrawal symptoms.

Pick up a hobby or something you generally enjoy, anything that will distract you (but not from work/school). Then stop cold turkey.

He was interviewed by Russia Today (RT)
They paid for his flight and accommodation.

>OMG RUSSIAN PLANT
>DRUNGPF IS FINISHED

ok

>I'm not a 12 stepper and think the addiction treatment industry is full of shit.
You don't know how right you are.

Look up Sheldon Adelson, owner of the Las Vegas Sands casino and the world's largest rehab clinic organization.

Nether of those withdrawals can kill you so just don't be a faggot and do whatever it takes. You could try going hiking see if that helps.

>Jew Jitsu

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Benzo addict reporting in. Can't go without bud without losing my mind, and I smoke cigs although going through nicotine w/d cold turkey is a breeze. I plan on continuing to smoke the herbal Jew, probably quit cigs and just vape and enjoy a fine cigar once in a while, but this serious benzo addiction could potentially cause seizures at the doseage I'm at. It's my own fault I'm in this mess and I'll inevitably have to taper off eventually. Switching out hardcore alcoholism by most peoples standards (fifth a day, wake up n bottlechug shit) for bulk clonazolam may not have been the best idea, but it certainly makes life much less stressful. Biggest downside is how much it fucks your short term memory, aside from withdrawals that can literally kill you if you fall too deep down the rabbit hole. Kicking opiates after surgery was pussy shit as soon as the pain was mostly gone. This habits gonna be a lot harder and more dangerous to kick.

I feel for you man, I have a close friend currently struggling with benzo addiction. He, too, has had a harder struggle with it than opiates.

>for bulk clonazolam may not have been the best idea
YA THINK? You sure picked one hell of a nasty customer to abuse there.
That shit is a head locker. I only take it on stim comedowns, and only one dose of .5mg.

Damn you are fucked.

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I will tell you about benzos though, and you probably already know this given your mention of your current dose, but for breaking benzo addiction, weening is a must. You can look up dosing schedules online I believe.

Bullshit fag. It's just a degeneration and can only happen in a decadent society. Only too much lazy time and egoistic thoughts turn you into a self centered narcist. All this "gaping holes in your souls" would suddenly vanish if you were forced to maybe partake in a war or have any kind of responsibility. But no. Fucking welfare society creates monsters like you.

I had a seizure 2-3 weeks after quitting clonazepam/klonopin/rivotril. Scary shit. Go slow with that taper. And dude, I could feel my intelligence go up when I quit, it was like I had more space to think inside my head. Amazing feeling

start sucking cock

sheer will.
nicotin free since december.
never felt better.

I quit smoking weed cold Turkey

Not as easy as it sounds when everybody around you smokes 10-30 joints a day.

I had to stop hanging out with them altogether for my health and I have to say it was the best decision I've ever made

>Broken society creates self centered narcissists such as me
>Live in an escapism centered culture where drugs are widely available
>Yet "just stop XD" is good advice
Way to miss the point retard. I have not claimed that it is not our responsibility in any way, I even agree with most of your post, I'm just calling Sup Forums out on their objectively stupid advice. If people want to stop being addicts they don't need to "just stop", they have to find a proper alternative meaning like your post implied.

Whatever else you do, don't try that rehabilitation therapy bullshit.
They make their money on repeat business.

Just throw it away

What have you been addicted to?

Maybe I should clarify. I'm not a white-knuckling sober-alcoholic thats just telling people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps day in and day out. Thats not useful and hurts people with addiction problems. But even in the definiton you just laid out its not a disease. Using a substance that adjusts the pathways in your brain which is reversible when starved is NOT a disease. What you literally just described comes down to habit. Basically it needs to be viewed as mental illness, not a spooky amorphous "disease" thats "incurable" except through these wonderful costly industries that have an abysmal success rate.

Addicts make choices wether they like it or not. Compulsion is the thing we are dealing with which, as you stated, can be dealt with by not doing the addictive substance. Thats what every successfully sober person has done.

LSD helped me break through some of my addictions. Its worth a shot.

You should not use the language you are using to describe a topic which you clearly know very little about. For many people, you are probably correct - the origin of the disease state may stem from psychological issues like depression or "lack of alternative meaning" in life as you suggest. However, many people suffer from addiction post-surgery, others are forcefully injected even one time and then must combat the disease. For many people, the problem truly is the substance and the effect it has on the brain.

>addictive personality
This is "I have an artistic brain" or "I was born fat" tier
Read about your addiction, there's a ton of stuff on it
>>Broken society creates self centered narcissists such as me
>>Live in an escapism centered culture where drugs are widely available
A Jew punished by the unnatural society state that was created by other jews. No offence but this is comedy.

You have acknowledged the problem, that's good, now start reading about it instead of asking goys on forums who didn't have the same addiction as you. Look at this pic too

Having said all of what I have, I do agree that the industry related is often a scam. Addicts are easy to make money off of. Find a good, kind doctor who knows his brain anatomy and knows the human soul.

Stop. Replace your unhealthy addictions with something more healthy like working out/ going for a walk, run, jog etc. Or find a hobby that will keep your mind off of it. Try using hard candy or mints to prevent you from using chewing tobacco. Seriously, that shit is gross anyways.

Not a lot of things(banzos, alcohol, weed as much as it's possible, stopped myself before opiates became an issue) and most of them I quit. And even though I quit most of the hard shit sobriety is still not something I can deal with, and I know tons of people like me, and have heard this sentiment here a lot as well. Until we find a true cause that will make being sober and functioning "worth it" we'll be looking for ways to disconnect from the world, and even without a specific addiction we'll still be junkies.
Ok, I'm not talking about the people who genuinely accidentally fell into addiction.

You just basically suggested we call it an "illness" rather than a "disease." What is your definition of disease?

Everybody's gonna be all DUDE WEED LMAO, but in my experience, it forces you to look at yourself honestly and can help with addiction of any type.

Just don't start smoking everyday and you'll be fine.

It isn't spooky or incurable. But it does have a significant genetic component relating to how easily/quickly/capable your neurons are when it comes to pruning and forming synapses. Time is also a function. Not viewing addiction as a disease would be to ignore these facts and tell the patient that there is absolutely no excuse and that they are simply weak-minded, which is not always the case.