Manifest destiny:the 19th-century doctrine or belief that the expansion of the US throughout the American continents was both justified and inevitable
Lebensraum: the territory that a state or nation believes is needed for its natural development, especially associated with Nazi Germany.
The Americans wanted to spread west for more resources for their people, and drove out the Native Americans. And in this time, you could call this a total genocide of Native Americans, because it was.
The Germans wanted to expand across Europe for more land for the German people. And in this time, they committed genocide against anyone they saw unfit.
Yeah that would have been more proper, but whatever.
Dominic Martinez
The difference is that America was empty while Europe was not. There were very few indians, just scattered as hunter-gather nomads across the land. They didn't have massive cities with millions of people.
Carter Roberts
Yeah, that's a good point.
But even though the numbers of people were vastly different, they were both trying to conquer land for their peoples.
Jace Jackson
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Asher Adams
well shit this thread sure died fast.
Jonathan Young
Don't you die on me
Alexander Bell
never gonna give you up
Wyatt Barnes
>they committed genocide against anyone they saw unfit
We do such a shitty job at it.
How many genocides have we commited in WW2, according to the latest history?
Liam Lewis
3 One on jews One on homosexuals One on anything else the nazis saw unfit.
Christian Rodriguez
I think Americans saw themselves as part of the process of "Progress". You know, making everybody equal, uniting humanity in one cosmopolitan identity and thus some tribes were just too backwards and didn't fit in history. Germans also saw Germanization as Modernization, but they lacked belief in Progress as uniting people and there was a clear racial component to their ideology
Jace Myers
Manifest destiny was about the spread of the superior anglo saxon culture. People back then just thought non whites as inferior and didn't care much about equality of the races. It certainly was not about race. it was about spreading their land for their democracy in a world of authoritarians.
Owen Lopez
>there was a clear racial component to their ideology
Excuse me, but America was racist longer than Germany was.
>but America was racist longer than Germany was I think all Protestants were and are racist and chauvinistic
Brandon Wilson
They killed 1/3rd of the jews in Europe in the holocaust. So yeah, many.
Blake Bennett
Haven't you noticed that Americans, both abolished slavery and ended segregation? And now push diversity as value and want even to abolish sexes? This is cosmopolitanism, it proves my point
Andrew Lee
And America went in a civil war to end slavery, costing about, I don't know, 625,000 deaths?
Adam Roberts
>But you didn't see America putting anyone they saw unfit in ovens, now did they?
Not sure, how many millions has america exactly killed in the last decade alone?
Luis Reyes
>All americans now are libtards >Thus all americans before them were also interested in equality
What?
Dylan Cooper
The wars we have fought in the past decade is to end Islamic Terrorism.
You should be thankful, German. Without us, it would be a lot worse in your country.
Camden Adams
Slavery and segregation was always limited to South. The Yankee culture has dramatically prevailed over the South
Cooper Davis
Lol how? American involvement, especially in World War 1 which only happened to serve its (((Masters))) was pretty ruinous for Germany.
Mason Evans
Indians were a stone age "civilization" when this continent was conquered.
OP is comparing apples and watermelons.
Michael Cooper
To be honest, I agree. The world would have been much better if Germany won ww1.
No ww2.
No extremist leftist uprising.
Brandon Roberts
>The wars we have fought in the past decade is to end Islamic Terrorism.
At least I am allowed to call you out on this lie.
All you have done is toppling moderate rulers like Gaddaffi or Assad and AIDING radical muslims.
How many "suicide attacka" were there in Iraq before you fought "islamic terrorism" there.
Angel Turner
Most likely minimal.
Joshua Campbell
The difference is that the victims of the holocaust (and ww2 in general) we're big enough to have their voice heard. No one cared about native americans back then, thus manifest destiny is seen in a different way.
Logan Bell
True. Isis did not even exist and wouldn't have been possible.
Fighting islamic terrorism, my ass.
Your country belongs before a war criminal court, and people like Bush and Obama, Clinton deserve death.
Blake Myers
But, on the other hand The war helped us IMMENSELY on oil. The middle east was prosperous with oil Maybe the war was caused FOR oil?
Lincoln James
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Matthew Davis
The Israel lobby and neocons was a strong component. Other then that, war is always good business.
