Legitimate problems with capitalism

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>Inherent monopoly
>no national pride
>globalist inclination

Upholds the richest, instead who does the most work. Also creates weak men that lead to hard times

In Leaf and Burgertown ? Government over-regulation and promoting race and gender incentives, and social programs. National Socialism is for faggot spergs, Ultra-national Capitalism is the route to a prospering society.

Not enough beta culling

might as well ask something equally broad like what's the problem with industrialism? neoliberal economic policy, global corporatism and the resultant wealth inequity that emerges from them are often taken to be necessary components of capitalism but it doesn't have to be that way

Keeps faggot commies fed enough so that we have to hear there annoying voices and shitty ideologies that totally have never been done before

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that is not because of capitalism, it stems from cultural problems cause by and referenced to in the post above yours

it might be too good

Ancient Greece would have been shit if Capitalism existed there at that time.
Capitalism leaves me poor due to its particular lack of virtue.

Francis is that you?

Greed

my mom divorced my dad and stole millions from him. she makes more on interest than probably 90% of americans and she has 0 skills.

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Natsoc is way better. """""Nat cap""""" is the other side of the Jewish coin. Most idiots like you don't even know you can own property, run business and get rich as long as your business doesn't hurt the state and treats workers right. And in doing so encourages the family to grow.

Natcap is like getting halfway then going nah let's just stay I'm not anti Jewish enough

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worker

Selfishness is a virtue.

>be upper middle class
>invested heavily in stock market, including health insurance companies
>health insurance goes up $500/month
>stock returns goes up $1,000/month due to profitability of healthcare industry
>too dumb to understand this so cry about how expensive health insurance is

honestly fuck baby boomers and fuck anyone with more than 2-3 million in savings. the entire federal reserve fucked with interest rates so these boomers would feel wealthy because their shitbox houses prices are inflated 10x what they're worth. meanwhile everyone under 35 years old has all their value stolen from them and redistributed to the wealthy.

Capitalism does not put forward race, family, or culture. It only cares about profits. You can guess why the Jews benefit from it.

Define work

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In it's purest form, it's usually pretty good, but Capitalism watered down with other ideologies (as it usually turns out) usually leads to egalitarianism, which is inherently destructive.

I like this pope.

Productivity isn't an indicator of work or effort. Technology has made life incomprably easier for the worker in the last 100 years.

Who does more work? A courier on horseback delivering 10 letters in a day or a office worker sending 100 emails?

the main problem with modern capitalism is intellectual property

the biggest problem with capitalism is concentration and centralization of capital which comes about naturally creating oligopolies and monopolies (think like it's zipf's law for economics)

thing is capitalism has a built-in tool to break oligopolies and monopolies: innovation

except innovation has been co-opted by giant multinational corporations that sit for decades on sealed away vaults of intellectual property for the sole purpose of maintaining their marketshare safe against other giant multinational corporations for the foreseeable future and whenever some start-up manages to put up a decent successful innovative product on the market they get bought out immediately

access to information should be absolutely unrestricted, the only incentive you should have to innovate should be to beat out the competition and reap the profits until they catch up, not to secure royalties for 3 generations

sure the coca-cola company, as the inventors of the coke formula, should have the right to be the only large-scale producers of coca-cola but the formula should be public knowledge for anyone daring to improve upon it

all IP law does is actually inhibit innovation and create monopolies and oligopolies

The problem is that there are no problems.

IP isn't capitalism, it is government.

It's based on continuous growth which is impossible and has turned a once perfect civilization into a shell of what it once was.

Often times the policies that would help if brought in slowly are rushed in. This creates excessive destabilization of everything everywhere and hinders the very growth the policies were supposed to encourage.

Imagine if the USSR pursued a China style reformation. Imagine what the results of shock therapy capitalism on North Korea would look like compared to a slower Vietnam style reform.

What if NAFTA was implemented slowly overtime. First with Canada and then slowly with Mexico. Instead we got near overnight reform causing mass farmer unemployment and all it's consequent consequent migration.

Too often people are lured by the promise of a potential .5% bonus to GDP growth that year instead of a slower but more stable growth. And all the while that .5% additional GDP growth is an illusion becaucse those policies destabilize things so much that the growth never happens.

And that doesn't even take into account how those negative destabilizing shocks can create a political situation in which people are so burnt out and distrustful that they'll demand policies to protect them that do more damage in the long run to more than overcome those "growth causing" reforms ever prevented in the first place.

This. There is no state of 'enough,' just an endless moral void of usury.

I only get what I work for, or what I inherit, or what the government gives me for free. There are people who work harder than I do who can buy more stuff because they worked hard and got a good education in a field they didn't necessarily enjoy but knew it would provide a prosperous future.

Wouldn't it be better if we all did back-breaking labor for 14 hours a day, 6 days a week, lived in stacked concrete blocks and only got almost enough basic necessities to survive while having all information and entertainment censored?

>cardinals wasting their time on Sup Forums
You work in one of the most beautiful places on earth. What are you doing? By the way, thanks for the flag.

It allows for diversity.

actually it's lobbyists and corrupt/misguided representatives

the whole system really, not a single person in government or a corporation would be against it because they are the status quo and IP law is one of the main instruments to keep the status quo

being against IP law is still very much fringe politics, I mean there's no need to get away with it entirely but the thing needs a strip down

Exactly, but it is a problem limited to government, and government corruption; not capitalism.

The reliance on an eternally growing economy, leading to the importation of shitskins, sand heretics and gooks.

leans towards profit at all costs if left unchecked. We need to fix that mentality problem and impose qualitative growth instead of raw, blind growth.

Only true answer.

>inherent monopoly
No. It's a natural wish for capitalists to reach that, but it's not inherent to capitalism. It's a tendency that can be regulated to a degree.

>no national pride
Mate you can make money out of anything.

>>globalist inclination
This will have to die when we realise that globalism on the scale that we are used to is no viable in the long run.

There is only one real problem with Capitalism, and the problem is not with Capitalism itself. Capitalism only benefits those that own capital. Even if you are of modest means, if you save some of your money and invest it by using it to buy capital, and do this with every paycheck, it will work out well for you in the end. The natural inclination for most people is to go into debt to buy consumer goods instead of saving and investing in capital. Hence the problem. Capitalism is counter-intuitive to most people.

Nothing. Laissez Faire economics are the best.

yeah like politicians go knocking round corporate "yo let me extend that copyright for you, 20 years I'll suck yo dick"

no, it's a problem with capitalism using whatever systems are in place to increase the rates of concentration and centralization of capital

it has done this with commerce, industry and banking over the centuries and it is now using IP (it's the information age after all)

unless you are operating in ancap-larp-verse it's one hand washes the other and state, corporations, markets, institutions, you know the actual pieces of the actual capitalist system, are all intertwined

>instead who does the most work
>keeping up the myth that employers don't do a shitton of work as well.
What are you, a coal mine worker from the 20th century? Are you uneducated enough that you genuinely believe capitalists don't work their asses off to get that rich?

Gimme a mortgage. Ok. Aaand it's gone and where's my usury.
>this is every single Dollar that exists

it generally destroys great art, favors the quick and inexpensive instead of the aesthetically pleasing

Depends on the quality of the letter inside. For ex : if it's all fucking spam

meetings, phonecalls and networking doesn't classify as work

Selling your grandmother for profit

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Scented razor blades.

It does but not productive one

"Capitalism" is a buzzword invented by commies. There's individual freedom, and there's the lack of individual freedom. Countries that have more respect for individuals and their rights tend to be more developed.

Capitalism doesn't make you fat, the food you eat voluntarily makes you fat. Capitalism doesn't make you poor, whether or not you are capable of supplying to the demands of society and ear its favors makes you poor. Individuals make a nation great, not government regulation, not collectivist welfare. If the individuals aren't great, then the nation is not great, regardless of what government bullshit they are trying to apply.

It does. But you're too much of a tool to understand that.

Ideally all of that should be regulated by consumers, but they have to have the information, attention span, organization, and will to consume in a way that does not depend so much on the advertising of the companies. To counter that you can regulate against the negative effects, but then you leave the door open to shitty regulation and added social agenda advertisement if not simply limiting advertisement spending and market shares appropriately.

Special methods and stools in order to shit better

Fucking this. IP lobbying is ridiculous. You should be able to profit off your idea within your lifetime, but not your company executives for 70+ years afterwards.

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Share buy backs

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80 and 90 yr old w/ cancer losing home of 37 years to a fucking bank over a (((reverse mortgage))) can't these god damned (((banks))) let them die in the place and take it when they're gone?/ seriously makes my blood boil..

It can lead to corporatism. You get garbage like Walmart, Mcdonalds, and Goodwill. Cancer that kills mom and pop.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see capitalism gone. It just needs some tweaks.

Having worked in a places with way too much management, I agree with the sentiment, but work is not limited to manual labor.

Million dollar snake antivenom. Fired for getting in a rear ender

Senseless and soulless society.

Hating on goodwill? really nigga?

Fucking popeposters

But there's inflation. So we can buy things last. And it's all automatic too. Pay no taxes. Dish out no hours or benefits. Delete the borders

Try having a garage sale. You can't beat goodwill man, I'm telling you.

those are different kinds of work, and riding the horse would be much more preferable to sending emails like a drone


ive ridden on horses before btw i'm not a horse pleb

>implying Greed is good

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All people are not equal, some just cannot compete

Are you a dog

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This is ultimately the best criticism of Capitalism. It is incredibly materialistic, and we haven't tempered that materialism well at all.
Goodwill is the shittiest company imaginable. Wasteful as fuck, hires literal retards in order to underpay workers for some bullshit legal loophole, its a nigger-tier company.

I didn't even see that. I agree. Fpbp

what's the solution?

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. The perennial march of capitalistic machinery has turned once strong, happy, free men and women into miserable 9-to-5 wageslave bugmen who serve no purpose and experience nothing in life beyond meaninglessly circling around their anthills with other soulless bugmen. And for what? What technological advancement is truly worth the sacrifice of millions, BILLIONS of human lives to paid slavery? We're really supposed to devote all of our lives to working so that 6 year olds can jack off to prank videos on YouTube?

The invisible hand allocates money toward degenerate things.

But then again, that isn't really a problem with capitalism itself, people spend their money willingly on degeneracy

thanks for the flag frankie!

Day of the rake still hasn't arrived

Consumers are dumber than goddamn bricks.

Its called a niche, people who can't walk can write books and people who can't think well can do menial physical labor.

If these people can't even do the minimal amount to make a little bit of money, how would they ever survive on their own in any other social paradigm?

>inherent monopoly
How is a private monopoly (which are very rare in a free market) any different from a government monopoly (that has a de facto monopoly on the use of force)? The former cannot force you to give them money unlike the latter.

can i get a >quick rundown on "national capitalism"

She obviously had some skill, they just too gross and manipulative for you to accept.

Are Americans just so deep in it that the difference between consumerism and capitalism is non existent? This is why you need borders. A consumerist system will just import consumers and the lackies to provide instead of evolving. Imagine if they just imported "walkers" to get shit from the shop for you. You need to improve QOL and inovation, standards of appreciation.

I feel like the next Apple/Amazon, i.e. the next company to define the business world ambitions for a decade, will be the one to finally get rid of management. Management is flow of information and decision making, nothing else. We're waaaay past the point of automating and algorithmitizing the entire range of lower and middle management activities, to huge gains at that. The only reason it hasn't happened yet is because, having a business degree, I know it is pretty much a pyramid scheme. Actually, Valve does not employ a single dedicated manager, for two decades now. Some new Jeff Bezos needs to pick up on that.

>invisible
>exists
All gas stations have same prices but nobody talks to anybody. It's muh voodoo haynd

No, the problem is (((their))) fiat money system and state monopoly on legal tender for private sector enterprises. The state at least needs to give out its own fantasy coin currency. Also liquidity accumulates wealth. So normal people would never get credit to invest and eventually become wealthier.

A nationalistic society which allocates its resources via capitalism.

No inherent safeguards against moral degeneracy. Pornography and other such degenerate materials sell and sell well. Make liberal propaganda entertaining enough and the masses snap it up.

Now granted capitalism is better than a socialist clusterfuck, but there needs to be a reasonable government and moral oversight.

Pure capitalism relies on informed consumers. You only need look at the vidya industry to see that isn't the case 90% of the time.

This. Can I have gold for this? No only statutes. Now here's your interest rates and common law yaaaay

join your country's pirate party and start bomb raiding the backup data servers of these multinational companies

alternatively vote for politicians that defend cutting down IP law, mainly punishing companies that sit on too much patents

It's tailored for beta males who drive in flocks whenever someone criticizes it

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The automation problem
Capitalism when working correctly is a kinda business and industry Darwinism when paired with advancing technology .
The best and most efficient people, businesses and ideas rise to the top.
What is the most efficient way?
>having robots do the work