>A Mason County homeowner has been charged with second-degree murder after shooting an intruder who was in a shower on his property.
>The Olympian reports 59-year-old Bruce Fanning appeared in court Monday on the charge and had bail set at $250,000.
>The Belfair, Washington homeowner was arrested after reporting the April 1 incident at his business. The business is in one of two houses on his property.
>Court documents say Fanning found the door kicked in at the business and saw the intruder in the shower. Fanning told detectives he was afraid and thought the intruder was drunk. Picture of the victim.
Let all the facts come out in the legal system before you make your judgments. Maybe he deserved to be shot, maybe he didn't.
Samuel Parker
He deserved it.
Who the fuck kicks down a door and then takes a shower at a strangers house? Probably some kind of dopehead.
Jack Wright
That is what happens when you're a degenerate ass. Do stupid things, win stupid prizes.
Lucas Hill
If you don't wanna get shot, get your own fucking shower then fag
Matthew Mitchell
>Picture of the victim.
he is a degenerate who trespassed on another man's property. he deserved it.
Jacob Brooks
But the shooter was charged with murder.
Jose Bennett
> April Fools!
Caleb Fisher
He shouldn't be. He shouldn't be charged with anything but he shouldn't have shot the guy either
Angel Miller
Can't have it both ways, upside down nigger.
Evan Brown
>Seattle
I'm pissed off because I know the guy who shot this faggot will get life
Carter Butler
It's Washington state. What do you expect?
Eli Campbell
>Rosa So a high caste Mexican? Good riddance.
Jordan Baker
>violate NAP >get shot and killed Like pottery
Mason Johnson
(((ROSA)))
Austin Richardson
The home owner shouldn't have shot the dude In the shower. He should have waited then ambushed him when he came out. Then he'd be dead and you could say he was waiting for you when you got back to your house.
Levi Brown
>People saying he deserved to die You guys are fucking degenerate african-tier faggots. >"Muh property" >"Muh castle doctrine" >"Muh gunz" He was fucking shitfaced out of his mind and he wasn't a threat to the homeowner. The homeowner found him in the shower, talked to him, then left to go to his other property and get a gun and shot him through the fucking shower curtains. This guy is a fucking coward and a sociopath and deserves to be in jail. He should've called the cops and had the dude sober up in a cell - Maybe sue him afterwards for what, $500 worth of damage to his door? If you unironically think this guy was justified in shooting some drunk asshole, you're a fucking degenerate. This is what nignogs do.
Charles Morales
From the picture, he looks like he deserved to be shot.
Henry Lopez
Good bait but you missed one key detail
You forgot the Australian flag.
Jordan Clark
>He was fucking shitfaced out of his mind and he wasn't a threat to the homeowner. >A strange naked man in your home isn't a threat Can you post your address on craig's list or something? I'm sure you wouldn't mind the "company".
Austin Edwards
>tattooed degenerate
and nothing of value was lost
Samuel Jackson
Also during my training I was told that if you have a call for a misdemeanor at most and then immediately get a call for a burglary you take the misdemeanor call first. Cops don't give a shit, and relying on them makes you the pussy. We live in an autocracy and it falls on the individual to uphold the law.
Charles Fisher
"innocent" I'da shot him too
Matthew Flores
We'll said user.
If this was a true burglary I'd feel different, but as it stands it a terrible, stupid tragedy for everyone involved.
Brody Collins
Castle doctrine really needs to be put in the constitution.
Aaron Morgan
reasonable post on Sup Forums? first post best post.
Elijah Cooper
We shouldn't rely on the constitution to dictate how our society works. Our government shouldn't grant allowance, it is us who should grant our government allowance.
Grayson Jenkins
Being in someone's house uninvited means you deserve to be shot. This should really be a societal norm.
Christian Jenkins
Who is going to push the button now...
Cooper Cox
If somebody who is obviously drunk is in your shower your first instinct should be to help the dude out, not get your gun and blast him through the curtains like a coward. If you kill someone just because they're in your house, you're a nigger. If the drunk dude was violent and tried to beat up the homeowner, it would be different. This guy obviously wasn't in the right state of mind to be showering in someone else's home.
It's not fucking self-defense if the guy wasn't a threat to the homeowner. Castle doctrine doesn't give you carte blanche to shoot anyone in your home, only if someone is a threat.
So individuals upholding the law means killing a man for a misdemeanor? I sincerely hope the homeowner was a black guy just to see Sup Forums do a complete 180. >FUCKING DINDU KILLED A POOR INNOCENT WHITE MAN FUCKING NIGGER
David Nelson
If that was the case, then yeah it's murder. The guy should have called the cops.
If he was at the location with the shower, and grabbed a gun from that location and shot him, I would side with him. Leaving the premise, going and getting a gun, coming back and shooting him is premeditated murder.
Literally, "I'm going to get my gun and kill this fool"
Benjamin Lewis
>fake being drunk >stab the idiot who put his gun down >loot and rape his wife
Don't you feel like an idiot.
Jaxon Johnson
Breaking and entering makes you a threat and you're clearly ready to use force to enter private property. It was also burglary, he was stealing the man's paid services. I don't care what race either individual was, being homeless/drunk automatically entitles you to being a degenerate less than that of a nigger who does not partake in either degeneracies.
Andrew Brooks
Except that's not what happened, faggot. The drunkard didn't have a knife or anything. The homeowner talked to the drunk guy while he was showering, left, got his gun, and shot him. What you described is a completely different situation.
Gabriel Murphy
>If somebody who is obviously drunk is in your shower your first instinct should be to help the dude out are you a sex offender?
David Harris
he probably should have tried to tell the intruder to freeze and surrender first but either way the homeowner is justified
Dominic Brown
Deserved it.
Don't wanna get shot? Shower at home.
Levi Moore
(((nose)))
Chase Harris
The point was you can't tell an actual drunk person from someone faking being drunk.
We shouldn't have to be mind readers to be within our legal rights. Any home intruder is a potential threat to your life and property.
Samuel Hughes
This.
African-Tier justice
Samuel Bell
It wasn't fucking burglary you cuck. He was taking a shower, it's the U.S. and not Africa, water isn't expensive. He was shitfaced and he should've gone to jail for breaking and entering, served his time doing community service, not dying over a broken door and a few gallons of water.
Josiah Sanders
Shut up leaf
Parker Garcia
If there is no threat no one should be murdered. A good ass kicking is fine.
Gabriel Nguyen
You have to eat all the eggs.
Brayden Walker
>it's not burglary if it's something cheap Not burglary when I fuck your mom without paying either then
Joshua Lewis
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Ethan Roberts
He already destroyed the man's property, there was a CLEAR threat to his property.
Adrian Hernandez
I can legally shoot anyone who breaks into my house. Arizona is the best state.
Connor Hughes
>it wasnt burglary >the stuff he stole wasnt even that valuable!
>a guy smashing in your door and entering your home isnt likely to be a threat, dont be so violent!
Justin Jones
there is still a hope for US and A
Michael Bennett
This scumbag violently broke into someone else's house, and then started leeching of their resources. Then after being found out and told to leave he was given a long window of opportunity to avoid any consequences but instead he was persisted breaking the law. He was a threat- a naked grown man illegally occupying your property after vandalizing it is a goddamn threat. Then the homeowner finally got back and gave the bum what he was asking for. What kind of leftist faggot sympathizes with criminals?
Wyatt Powell
Americans are too fat to dole out normal justice. He should have just beat the shit out of him with his fists and called the police. Only Americans would leave this guy alone at his home naked and showering to get a gun and blow a harmless persons brains out. In all my days with the army I couldn't imagine blowing someones brains out who has no weapon
Justin Gutierrez
>Man charged for assaulting innocent man who broke into home for showering
Yeah nah, we are in a society that actively punishes citizens for defending themselves, so you might as well make it count and kill the intruder if he breaks into your home
Carter Parker
>Kicked down door on private property
Give that homeowner a medal.
Lucas Ramirez
That's a good Halloween cat
Hudson Powell
No I'm a decent fucking human being. I would've explained to the asshole he's in the wrong house and let him sober up before taking him home.
It was fucking obvious he was drunk, he was taking a fucking shower in someone else's home and the homeowner TALKED to him so he knew he was drunk. If the drunk guy was a threat, the homeowner wouldn't have been able to leave to get his gun. If he was just pretending to be drunk, why would he be in the shower?
Cameron Young
Then you were in a faggot army filled with faggots
Alexander Morris
IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT YOU WOULD NOT KNOW THAT YOU FUCK.
IT IS NOT THE VICTIM'S DUTY TO ASCERTAIN WHY SOMEONE BROKE INTO HIS/HER HOME AND VANDALIZED THEIR PROPERTY. FOR ALL ANYONE IN THAT SITUATION WOULD KNOW, IS THAT THERE WAS AN UNIVITED THREAT IN THEIR HOME, WHO COULD HARM THEM OR THEIR FAMILY OR PROPERTY.
Nicholas Perez
faggot neckbeard should of showered in his own faggoty home, or else the ymca with the rest of the homos
Nathan Scott
It's illegal to use deadly force against people who aren't threatening you in many places, meaning if someone goes up in your house and takes your TV you are not able to shoot them unless you feel your life is in danger.
>Draw weapon >Point weapon at intruder is legal though, and you can shoot if they escalate
Alternitively >Pepper spray him or break his leg >Tackle him
Nolan Gutierrez
>Leaving the premise, going and getting a gun, coming back and shooting him is premeditated murder.
Yea. Leaving the "danger" site and coming back proves you weren't threatened and was looking for a confrontation.
Brayden Myers
>Washington
stopped reading there. doesn't matter if he did it rightfully or wrongfully, Washington is such a backwards liberal hellhole that so much as owning a BB gun is enough to make the liberal judges put you in jail these days.
Luke Rivera
He's a good catto but has autism
Ayden Cook
This user is right: You're not the good person you think you are. Somewhere between stupid and absolutely creepy.
Jace Torres
ok so you think a drunk homeless man you just be able to kick down your door smash all your valuables, while you meekly sit on the sideline wait for a cop to show up an hour after the guy is gone.
I respectfully disagree.
Lincoln Nguyen
Sounds like he was drunk desu. I've done some dumbass shit before and kind of feel bad for him but still think the homeowner was within his rights. It should be between him and God.
Caleb Watson
He took the time to go get his gun from another property. This was some shitfaced degenerate in the shower. If he did anything that could be construed as violent, then yes blow his brains out. If it's some shitfaced degenerate asshole who you should through the curtains, then your'e a psychopath
Call the police and go wait outside.
Michael Anderson
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Aiden Ward
Dude shouldn't have broke into his house but I mean, you walked in on him naked in the shower, so he was no threat to your life so yeah, shooting him is excessive. Normally home invasions it's dark and you don't know if the intruder is armed, so yeah, you shoot. This case.. you kind of had the dude at a massive disadvantage.
You could have just pointed the gun at him and said "get the fuck off my property"
Connor Lopez
No it's not burglary, it's rape you retard.
Quit fucking strawmanning you faggot. If the homeowner was sitting on his couch and the drunk guy busted down his door and he shot the drunk guy, he'd be 100% justified. But the guy was in the fucking shower and the homeowner left to get his gun to shoot him. He wasn't filling up jugs with shower-water going "oy vey this dumb goyim wont miss a few pennies worth of water" he was taking a shower.
Jaxson Rogers
one less back woods faggot.
Joshua Stewart
Sounds like a nigger desu, enjoy prison mr unreasonable lmao
Alexander Bennett
Kekkity kekkek
Hunter Gutierrez
WTF you some kind of commie boy.
Henry Nguyen
He dindu nuffin
Caleb Clark
Did he kick down your door while you were occupying the residence? If you are sitting on your couch finger fucking your AR-15 while in your underwear... you can legally ventilate them for that entering your property.
All you need to do is prove that you feared for your life which they can't prove otherwise. The reason this particular case is a little sketchy is because the homeowner was defending his property instead of his life. At that point the homeowner had a duty to retreat (I don't agree with this premise, I am simply stating what prosecution will say)
Xavier Morales
This should be manslaughter not murder.
Joseph Nelson
gay lovers more like
Dylan James
post a link to a real site you nigger shit retard.
first day on the internet?
Justin Foster
Yes you can. Something can be morally wrong while being legally ok.
Ryder Adams
The shooter was legally in the wrong but morally correct. >911 checked.
WA self defense law is actually very good. We have both stand your ground law and castle doctrine but both are largely predicated upon the presence or likelihood of immediate danger to yourself or others. >The home owner entered the residence, discovered the trespasser, exchanged words with him then left the residence, retrieved a firearm and returned to shoot the trespasser through the shower curtain. I strongly believe in both SYG and CD and don't think the intruder had any expectation of life or safety in the situation but the home owner was arguably legally in the wrong. Although a drugged out wacko can flip out at any time he removed himself from danger and returned to it with a weapon. He should have called police at some point or got help to remove the idiot, if the idiot attacked them at any point while they were removing him from the residence they would have likely been in the legal right to shoot him but this is tantamount to an execution if the details reported thus far are correct. Had the owner been in the residence at the time of the break in, there would be few questions asked.
And before any foreigners chime in about how many times drunks have wandered into their residence or they have wandered into others' under the influence by accident, the trespasser lived a reasonable distance away, on the opposite side of Seattle essentially. Unless he was staying down the street, that's not particularly applicable.
Adam Reyes
>This plebbit post This isn't plebbit lad, stop being a retard and lurk moar before you post. Deserves it. Moment you break into someone's home by breaking down the door makes you a threat that needs to be neutralized. If it takes a gun then so be it. Just hope that the guy isn't in a cucked state. I also like how the OP "titles" the thread in a way to make it seem like the retard dindunuffin. I'm 100% sure that anyone who uses the subject field for non-general threads are newfags or plebbitors.
Grayson Barnes
>What kind of leftist faggot sympathizes with criminals? normal leftist faggots? They think it makes them good people.
Jaxson James
I'm fine with being stupid and creepy then. At least I'm not a violent nigger who shoots people for no reason.
If a drunk homeless man breaks into your house and smashes your shit, SHOOT HIM. This is a different situation you fucking massive faggot. This guy WASN'T a threat, and he WASN'T stealing. If you think a busted door and a shower is worth killing someone over you are a Jew.
David Peterson
The homeowner's biggest mistake was calling the cops rather than chopping the guy up in the shower and disposing of the parts.
Thomas Brown
>be American >peacefully break in >take shower >get shot
Tyler Butler
reddit tier argument
Liam Wright
/thread
Jeremiah Parker
>He was fucking shitfaced out of his mind >he wasn't a threat to the homeowner.
Charles Miller
There wasn't a "HEAT OF THE MOMENT" you dumbass. The homeowner and the drunkard were both calm enough that they had a conversation. The dude left to get his gun and shot the drunkard through the shower curtain. That's not heat of the moment, that's premeditated murder.
Like I said, if the drunk dude busted down his door and the homeowner was inside with his gun and shot him as he entered through the door, he'd be 100% justified and I'd be on his side. But this isn't what happened. He killed a man over fucking water.
Gabriel Thompson
>Did he kick down your door while you were occupying the residence? If you are sitting on your couch finger fucking your AR-15 while in your underwear... you can legally ventilate them for that entering your property.
If you can prove that you feared for your life it's legal, so it's a grey area.
>they can't prove otherwise. They can if they try hard enough
>At that point the homeowner had a duty to retreat Not always, you can use force to protect property but not deadly force. Also castle doctrine means no duty to retreat so if you're in a non-cuck state you're fine
Ryan Russell
>dat gay face tho It's a really long face.
Michael Powell
You're the type of person who forgives a nigger for murdering and raping your only daughter. Or at least are a few levels below it.
Henry Hernandez
>guy L I T E R A L L Y smashes his door in and enters his home without permission >stop strawmanning you meanie!
Joseph Bell
> This is a different situation you fucking massive faggot. This guy WASN'T a threat, and he WASN'T stealing. If you think a busted door and a shower is worth killing someone over you are a Jew.
This is only different because the Homeowner happened upon him and left and came back.
If the homeowner was in the building at the time and the dude kicked down the door and the owner obliged him with some new asshole openings it would be 100% justified.
I actually sympathize with the property owner. I am certainly not shedding a tear for some degenerate.
Cooper Kelly
Shot him in the knees if you can
Isaac Turner
>"I don't mind that you broke into my house. I'm here to help you shower, good sir. Let me give you comfort."
A Detroit-area man who claimed he accidentally shot and killed a 19-year-old woman he thought was breaking into his home was charged Friday with second-degree murder, after days of pressure from her relatives seeking an arrest. Theodore Paul Wafer, 54, also was charged with manslaughter and possession of a firearm in the commission of a felony in the November 2 shooting of Renisha McBride, who authorities say was intoxicated and possibly disoriented following a car crash before Wafer shot her on his Dearborn Heights porch. McBride was unarmed and there was no evidence of a break-in, so Wafer -- who authorities say shot McBride from behind a closed, locked screen door -- cannot lawfully claim he needed to shoot her to stop an imminent threat, Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy told reporters Friday. "I am saying we do not believe he acted in lawful self-defense," Worthy said. Gerald Thurswell, an attorney for McBride's family, hailed the charges, saying he believes the evidence points to murder, but that a jury could go for manslaughter if it disagrees.
"She was intoxicated. She may have been boisterous. She may have been loud. ... (But) this man had absolutely no justification to take a shotgun and blow her head off," Thurswell said Friday, not addressing Wafer's explanation to police that the gun discharged accidentally. McBride's father, Walter Simmons, told reporters Friday he was thankful for the charges against "this monster that killed my daughter." Her mother, Monica McBride, dismissed notions that the shooting was accidental. "You did no accident. You took a life, and you took a beautiful life that was starting to blossom into a beautiful woman," Monica McBride told reporters, addressing Wafer, who was in custody elsewhere. Wafer was arraigned on the charges Friday afternoon, and he was being held on bail set at $250,000.
This guy is sitting in assfuck penitentiary right now.
Ian Smith
His face says it all.
>the realisation that defending niggers is absolutely pointless.