Are there any personal benefits to taking psychedelic drugs or is it just bluepilled as fuck like other drugs

Are there any personal benefits to taking psychedelic drugs or is it just bluepilled as fuck like other drugs

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No

The best you can do for yourself is stay hydrated and get enough sleep

it opens your mindyoutube.com/watch?v=Y0c5nIvJH7w&list=LL5QDzRHlhlgNuoBu9Pw9Njw&index=69&t=57s

Some studies claim that mushrooms can be used to treat depression

They are also potentially useful in treating cluster headaches

saved my life. i know the truth. i am free, no matter what. god is love. cant get better than that. just do it when the time feels right. its your birthright to go there.

as long as you don't turn into hippy, it's okay.

Dimethyltryptamine is redpilled af and not for the faint of heart. I broke through and saw geometrical patterns, colors, numbers(crazy math equations), crazy "scenes" in my head that I can't explain, and I met the elves. To me they looked like robotic elven goddesses all pointing at me and telling me to come towards them as they danced in different patterns, all neon bright colors, it looked alive it looked like they were breathing. You see the Jew star a lot there. Every crazy geometrical pattern.

>geometrical patterns, colors, numbers(crazy math equations), crazy "scenes" in my head
>that I can't explain
It's your neurons firing odd, because the weights are all over the place.

It depends on how the experience plays out. I was a militant atheist for years and quest ed after and challenged a God I didn't believe in.

A good trip opened my eyes to a deist God. It is everything and we are part of it. It has no emotion to try and find favor with. It's will is simply the action of the universe. Sometimes coincidence occurs and this is simply its intent.

Man's concept of religion is an attempt to answer the question of how to live a good life. The rules are great minds best guess at how to live life right.

People need religion.
Some people think they're going to learn deeper truths that aren't self evident, or they just get fucked up.

I dunno man. Probably should do drugs when there's nothing at stake and no way to lose. Otherwise it's just distraction

Have the gif version. More fun to stare at while stoned

>Man's concept of religion is an attempt to answer the question of how to live a good life.
Yeah, it's pretty much just a "gather good boy points" game. Because humans like such games, for some reason...

yes, introspective thought and meditation/self reflection is enhanced greatly after a psych experience

It will temporarily change your judgement patterns, which may end up permanent depending upon how profound your experience was. So if you're scared just watch a Dave chap Elle movie but I suggest flipping through the Bible instead

I think acid helped me realise how selfish and arrogant I was.

I realised how I was treating my mum and girlfriend like shit and how I was living life in a really unhealthy and apathetic way.

I definitely studied harder and put more effort into uni after I realised this.

It's a shame because weed feels great initially but then I fall into a bad thought loop where I think there's all these things wrong with me and that I had some fucked up event in my childhood which ruined my development.

I'm probably gonna quit weed and just trip every few months from now on.

It's a bullshit detection enhancer.

Go watch tv. You see ads as propaganda rather than information. News barely touches on real underlying human questions. Frankly it's disgusting.

Turn off the TV and talk with your real mates. Red pills not nessecary because the truth on the ground is red

yeah man theyre good. i once had depression. i started taking weed. i got free quick. i highly recommend them. weed and lsd yes. but shrooms no. shrooms make you crazy. lsd xan be harmful. take it small doses. but weed is safe.

No. All ethical systems try to strike a balance that lets us live satisfied lives that don't leave us afraid and in despair on our death bed. Some seek glory, some balance, some forgiveness. It depends on the psychological makeup of a race or culture which will work best

You can only get gbps directly from god, your literal father and mother aren't gonna give you the tendies, you have to access them in more mysterious ways

Anyone who sees drugs as anything more than pure entertainment is missing the point.

i was able to lose ~280 pounds because of LSD and being able to change myself. changed my life for the better. It still is to this day a very eye opening experience

>I suggest flipping through the Bible instead
>implying all those transcriped relgious encouters with the holy aren't exactly due to drugs/natural gases

i have taken mushrooms only for psychedelics i think they can benefit you if you take it with the right mindset in a comfortable place

it doesnt change anything about you but it will make you realize issues you have with yourself and it is up to you to change

Weed isn't psychedelic

If you have used psychedelics weed can bring back those experiences in some ways but it's not hallucinogenic in and of itself

What is a good example of this off the top of your head and please try to at least link to the book of the Bible it's from

and still.. it's all about gbpts, no matter who is going to hand them out, here, or in the afterlife...

OP, they are definitely a mind expansion trick. You will see things from a perspective you could almost certainly never see otherwise. As a result, you may never be the same. This is most likely a good thing, but some people apparently have bad experiences. Be with people you trust (and the type that won't freak out) if not alone.

Interesting, about every account of a DMT trip I've heard of the person meets "the elves" as you call them.

god speaking to moses about burning """the bush"""

Funfact: the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous(who was also a devout, conservative Christian) was a massive advocate of using LSD as a treatment for drug and alcohol addiction

medically speaking, mdma can be used to treat ptsd

This is true.

Although psychs are fun.

It's psychedelic in the sense that it alters your psyche, you just don't see things

You mean psychoactive then?

For me psychedelic drugs have always produced a blackpilled kind of effect. I feel connected to everything that's happening, but not in a lovey hippie way. In a wild apocalyptic way.

Weed is medicine. The dose and regime is just as important as the prescription.

Yes, getting high frequently will dull the mind.

moderation. try it. “Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer, maybe self-destruction is the answer.”
― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club

How is the experience different between shrooms and LSD? I have a friend that's trying to convince me to try LSD, saying it can be a really positive experience. I've tried shrooms before, but wasn't a big fan of it

learn to forget

To you it's good boy points. That's entirely because of your cultural upbringing.

Some religious practices don't involve heaven and hell. You can be judged purely on how heavy your heart is, or any number of metrics.

It all comes down to how your culture and language interface with your sense of self and mortality

LSD or shrooms is not degenerate or bluepilled like some claim. Just go to the beach/camping with some friends who are also tripping, you'll have a fucking great time.

I did acid earlier today. Had a fucking great time. Played basketball and then some chess, currently watching blazing saddles.

Hallucinogenic mushrooms grow all over Mount Sinai where Moses had his revelations, also historians agree that consumption of food and beverages containing hallucinogenic mushrooms was common in Ancient Palestine

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogenic_drugs_and_the_archaeological_record#Manna_and_mushrooms

Oh fuck off, Switzerland, that euphemism wouldn't be conceived for another four thousands years!

>Now if you want a REAL example of someone in the bible who was high as a fucking kite, read the book of Ezekiel.

on shrooms, you are intensely tripping. the onset is later. your senses aren't altered as much as it makes you see and feel things.

lsd, however, is like a very, very high dose of weed. lsd is a thc derivative. on normal doses (1 tab) it boosts your senses and makes you see patterns. but its hallucinations arent nearly as intense or intricate as shrooms.

I did a mushroom trip (6 caps of local mushys) and it really changed my perspective on a lot of things. Well worth it but make sure you do it in nature with friends if you can.

That's closer to my experience, but I saw history projected forward and back and how I'm just a ripple in the weave, but couldnt be anything or anywhere but where I am

>lsd is a thc derivative

Shrooms is much more colorful and has more visuals, acid does as well but a lot of it is more mental/expanding thoughts. I also have worse motor control on shrooms

Which state?

fair enough

: ^)

It'll make you see through all the bullshit. If you trip on acid or mushrooms and even think about Sup Forums you'll probably hate yourself and the notions that are displayed here. You'll see life how it's meant to be seen in a sense, past the realities of modern life.

If you ever do DMT you might not be able to take the world seriously anymore

LSD is a double edged sword. You are subject to it, and there can be clarity or incomprehensiblility. Fear is powerful. Getting caught in a mental loop with no escape happens sometimes, and I think the fear is what cracks people.

yeeahhhh duuddee it's truuuee

my friend who works at the gas station says so

Used the right way they can have a very positive effect

Literally yanked me out of my rut. Now I'm a working man, threw out my television, soon to be married, ready to populate the white race

>Feels Good Man

Psychedelics can change your perception of light, color, sound. It can change a lot about how you think. The hallucinogenic part is also very fascinating. If you decide to partake I recommend taking some in a very natural setting; for example I tripped in a national park and I felt very in tune with nature, I even communed with a tree. That may sound like some crazy degenerate shit to some, but it was a great experience and I am glad I tried it at least once in my life. People on Sup Forums can be extremely judgemental and make themselves seem like badass Crusader paragons online, but in reality man, life is meant to be lived and to experience new things, to challenge your perceptions and to grow from those challenges. Make sure you have stable, trustworthy friends with you who have their shit together. More importantly, make sure you generally have your shit together haha. If you do it, have fun :)

Victoria, my mate knew a grower. You can check out shroomery . org if you're interested in hunting for yourself, they grow everywhere in season.

Never do drugs. I took "lsd" one time which turned out to be a crazy research chemical instead. Haven't been the same since that day. My vision occasionally will start to look like a fucked up satellite signal. I wish I never fucking did it.

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Very good explanation actually

To preface, I myself am a follower of christian mysticism (greek orthodoxy) and I'm almost done with my classes and I should be baptized right when the summer starts. When I first did acid roughly a year ago, it definitely helped me understand the mystical side of my faith more. When it was my second day freshman year in college I had my first mystical moment that helped me on my path to where I'm at now. Now I'm about a month away from finishing my junior year and I haven't looked back since. Psychedelic drugs have really helped me mentally and spiritually. So depending on the individual, I'd definitely recommend them.

lsd is more of a sit and ponder drug. Shrooms are better for when you want to go to a party. I prefer lsd because I like to sit indoors, turn on some good tunes, and enjoy the visuals/read theological pieces.

this
if your life is shit, try some acid
it won't be fun, but it will help you see through your own bullshit

Nothing is more bluepilled than psychedelics. Talk about a fucking distraction from reality. One heavy trip can knock off focus on your entire month, and throw you off your routine and make you question everything you're doing even though you're just living an optimal life within the parameters of society. If you can take it for what it is, a mental vacation, then it's good. You just have to really make sure you don't try to glean "insight" from anything that you experience. Also SERIOUSLY set aside enough time to catch up on sleep. 5-HTP is really not a bad decision either, the serotonin depletion can really make you a piece of shit for a few days.

t. serial drug user

I think the importance of trying to seek an intelligent and grounded worldview is the most important part of hallucinogens being a positive experience. You should ways be seeking a moral and wise path in life, and seeking escape in a trip won't help that. Seeking a fundamental TRUTH in a trip isn't wise either. You are actively becoming delusional during the experience. You need to find a way for the feelings and story of the trip to apply, but never take it at face value. Hippies always go wrong thinking it's going to be obvious and spelled out for them

Please read my post and never touch these drugs op.

This guy totally gets it.
Weed/Shrooms/DMT, depending on usage, can bring you to see things from entirely new perspectives from which you can come to new understandings about things you've never noticed.

This is kind of what I'm saying.

Two scenarios -

1. Unannounced during the trip, you feel the presence of God or the divine. You finally understand the emotional component of faith. You nurture that ability and let it motivate you in good works and fellowship. This is a good use of a trip, to free yourself from repressed ideas and allow growth

2. You want to see God and really actively search for a sign he is speaking to you. You get hungry and make Ramen. In the Ramen to start to see grand designs and specific communication from God to throw away your electronics and now believe you are privately able to observe subtle messages from him. This is delusional and seeking escape from self determination.

It's a little exaggerated, but I want to make a clear distinction. A good trip leads to further action and work in sober life. A bad trip is looking for a shortcut to enlightenment

You probably still suffer from some trauma from the bad experience. It has a name, like PTSD, and the anxiety of the bad trip can elevate your regular anxiety and vice versa with visual distortions cueing or being cued by the fear

Shrooms are fine.

Acid is man made.

Do as thou Wilt

Imagine a bunch of Sup Forumsacks tripping out together

>Acid is man made.
Uhhh... not really.

I also think you need to approach tripping with some confidence. It's not a journey you want to start half-hearted. Never let people pressure you. In fact, the real lesson may be in abstaining if you don't want to and others would try to make you. This could teach you more about life than a hundred trips. It could be your first right of passage to become a man, to say no and bear no ill will while others try to force you.

See the thing is that sounds awesome as fuck right, but I feel like personally I would have to much anxiety outside like that.

>Acid is man man
Wrong.

Lysergic acid diethylamide - LSD was first isolated by Albert Hofmann in Switzerland in 1938 from ergotamine, a chemical from the fungus ergot. The laboratory name for the compound was the acronym for the German "Lyserg-säure-diäthylamid", followed by a sequential number: LSD-25

That's like saying "caffiene is man made" - It's just an extract from a naturally occurring plant/fungi

it is semisynthetic

Smoking strong sativas and doing small doses of psilocybin honestly pushed me further rightward. Helped me see through the smoke and the mirrors, the mental manipulations used for social control, helped me connect some disparate things and understand whites are a targeted group. It may be the ultimate bluepill for people with certain mindsets, but for others, it can lift the wool from over your eyes and shatter all illusions you had about the world.

That's terrible bro, honestly you need to just think through it. A research chem won't Fuck you up like that idc it's your own anxiety

I've kind of been there. In 2001 there were proto pollacks. These aren't new ideas. 15 years ago my friends and I were doing Hitler salutes(semi ironically) and telling nigger jokes, while chewing up morning glory seeds and listening to Tool in the garage.

people have died from those research chemicals like the nbome series they were sold as lsd often they can fuck your shit up same thing with synthetic cannabinoids

This as fuck man, Moses was definitely on some drops from the red sea

Don't forget LSA.

You just have a shitty mental user

Semantics. Never heard of stories were half a village got "poisoned" with LSD due to the bread containing said "Mutterkorn"? And no, I'm not speaking of supposed CIA experiments.

Case in point:
>Medieval chronicles tell of villages and towns where nearly everyone went mad for a few days after ergot-diseased rye was unknownigly milled into flour and baked as bread.

sauce: books.google.ch/books?id=_oq8djFLFL0C&pg=PT28

Similar stories happened in Switzerland too.

Revelations

Ever read Prometheus Rising? RAW is a kook but his sense of humor really belies some real wisdom about programming and propaganda / perception

If you are looking to change your perspective on life. First time I experienced my infinite selves was quite the experience. Life is all about transitions.

I know a lady who's son killed himself on NBome. He kept smashing his head against a wall trying to make the trip stop, and he died of brain swelling.

Don't do shit you cant verify the source of

Drugs to do:

ALD-52
4-AcO-DMT
N, NDMT
LSD
Psilocybin
Cannabis
MDMA
Cocaine
Viagra
Diazepam

yes i know about that incidents but you can get fucked up from ergot poisoning with vasoconstriction issues

St Anthony's Fire was a syndrome caused by repeated ergot poisoning. Bad grain containing ergot eaten over time causes madness and gangrene from the vasoconstriction.

Go get a room you two doctorbs.

it depends on what you want out of your life. read everything erowid has on something before trying it. stick to psilocybin and dmt and other natural substances with positive reputations. start on very low doses and gradually work your way up with long periods of time in between. if you are not in a good place mentally in your life don't even think about touching the stuff. avoid lsd or anything synthetic.

very good and important points here

I think that only the strong minded can really cope with taking LSD. I took 2 tabs within 3 days and it completely fucked with my head. Had horrifying trips that I can definitively say were the worst experiences of my life which have changed me for ever.

Having abused some, I would say these drugs scale with the courage AND intelligence of the user to a certain extent. It can work as a fast acting anti-depressant because of its effects on certain parts of the brain, it can provide alternative perspectives of your life, your surroundings. And, it can also exaggerate your emotions enough that you'll have interesting ideas about yourself to dissect to see if they're TRUE OR NOT TRUE.

But unless you're taking some huge doses it can't completely separate your from the paradigms that govern how you view the world, yourself and how you interact with other people. I am not advocating for heroic doses. I am just saying, psychedelics have a very real limit to what they can give you alternative views of. You can only figure out what that limit is if you are willing to break down who you really are to yourself and other people while SOBER. This is something I personally appreciated once I read a book that described my personality flaws in a way I wouldn't have dared to see them otherwise. The information provided a completely different interpretation to some of the personal memories I had of certain trips.

The other last major thing I noticed about psychedelic use is that it seems like the more sane you get (I started taking them at rock bottom), the less intense the visuals become. These days my experiences are very interesting, but I never feel lost. Just challenged.

No, I haven't. Just read a little about it, sounds interesting. I think I might get it, thanks for the recommendation!

"your from the..." should be "you from the"

There was one other thing I wanted to mention in that post but I want to word it very carefully to avoid stupid people getting hurt. This stuff is absolutely insane for exposure therapy. It'll be huge once the academics figure out how potent it is in that format.

It turned out to be 25nbome or something along those lines. Worst experience of my life. I remember being unable to even talk it sounded like I had aphasia and my girlfriend at the time was absolutely freaking out at me and made it 100x worse. I feel like I've destroyed an entire part of my brain. I wish I had never done drugs in my life and have been clean for 6 months now. Don't make a mistake like I did anons

I was on a good path through university with great grades and a dream of reaching med school and becoming a doctor one day. These dreams were taken from me because of my decision to abuse drugs and hallucinogens in my teenage years. I developed a tic while tripping on mushrooms and here I am 7 years later twitching my face every few seconds. If you absolutely have to use drugs please wait until you've achieved your goals in life.

if you're not an irresponsible, broken, economically unstable wacko go ahead
I'd like to try it some day to experience and try to interpret the visions

some of the shit is not even as harmful as other legal drugs

LSD 100% stopped by Migraines

FACT

and it drastically reduced my depression

what was the book if i might ask?