Why is it common for ultra high IQ people to have very stupid political views?

Why is it common for ultra high IQ people to have very stupid political views?
> Garry Kasparov
> Noam Chomsky
> Stephen Hawking

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It's easier to rationalize dumb shit

watch "the century of self" on youtube and you shall understnd

>Be expert in a whole another field like Science

LOL GUYS LISTEN TO ME I KNOW ALL ABOUT POLITICS

haha.

Noam Chomsky. I remember someone asking about our national debt here in America. He said it wasnt a big deal! he says weird shit like that all the time. He wants the system to fail in hopes that a decentralized syndicalism can be put in place. stupid brilliant fucker... cant see the forest through trees.

(((Kasparov)))
Chomsky is a shill too. Dunno about Hawking.

Intellectual prowess in one field of study does not necessarily equate to another field of study. Mathematicians are often not the best writers, expert physicists may be terrible cooks, etc.

Because they are use to being right. They're sure they're right.

And they don't realize everyone else, even people in high rank of government, are idiots.

Because extremely smart people assume that either:
a. They know better than everyone else, and "But under MY careful guidance will surely work!" is a common line of thought among them.
b. They assume that most people are as intelligent and motivated as they are. I was hard leftist before i got to work closely with a "low working class" people, who don't sip latte and talk about new AAA games and abstract music genres sitting on comfy couches in an expensive chillout premier cafe.

Notice that two of them are jewish.

The problem with "smart" people is that they maybe well verse in one subject, they believe that intelligence carries over.

This lead to them completely believing that their view is correct despite having no real knowledge in that subject.

> Bobby Fisher

Absolutely redpilled

This.

Because they're novelty seekers.

Because the smarter you are, the easier it is to deceive yourself.

To elaborate, high iq individuals seek novelty. Its like a drug to them. They will support these ultra left views because they're novel. Basically, because they're new and different from what others think.

If we had been a hardcore leftist society for hundreds of years, they'd be espousing conservative ideas.

All the ultra high IQ people voted for Hillary.

If you didn't vote for Hillary you are subhuman waste and you will never achieve anything of value in life and will die a failure.

Everything works in theory.

Simple answer...jews

He still had quite a bit of SJW-tier and liberal political and social views.

because all low IQ people vote right. notice how a lot of spics voted right this election.

should be common sense by now

high iq doesn't mean high life experience

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I don't think that "novelty addiction" is exclusive only to high IQ people. Everyone in the world is addicted to getting new things, ideas, shows and things to play out in our minds.
It's more about the detachment from the "common men". They are so heavily separated from a common pleb, that they don't even consider that there are fuckers out there who behave on an animal level, almost exclusively on instinct.

The higher your IQ, the higher your abstraction skills are. You deal in the realm of theoretics, postulation. For Kasparov the chess player he is thinking all possibles outcomes and strategies before he makes his first move. Chomsky thinks of possible geopolitical scenarios and false flags. Hawking thinks of theoretical physics which he cannot observe directly.

The idealism of liberal views tends to resonate with these people, because liberals believe in frivolous concepts like all people are equal, borders are just unnecessary barriers between the free exchange of people, and everybody should have universal income and free healthcare. Ideas rooted in abstraction, thought experiments.

Most of these people are scientists, not politicians though. Stephen Hawking's opinion on immigration values the same to me as a random Stacy's from Home Ec.

>Why is it common for ultra high IQ people to have very stupid political views?

Because the IQ test was designed by the same fucktards that couldn't amount to shit outside of academia.

Real answer: high IQ people tend to be more highly represented in academia, and academia has long been infilitrated by Marxists. For all the shit that the Soviet Union gets, you have to hand it to them for achieving such great victories in the ideological war.

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I don't know why you're assuming the public statements and actions made by politicians perfectly reflect their ideology. Most highly intelligent people who rise to that level do so because their highest priority is power, and their intelligence feeds their manipulative drive. You become a successful politician via backroom deals and compromise, not unwavering adherence to principles and ideas.

Pic related, it's the only politician who meant what he said.

It's not.You just gave name of 3 persons

High IQ = More likely to be in college indoctrination programs = More likely to suck up to left
Compare political ideologies in STEM and arts. Y U G E difference.

>and their intelligence feeds their manipulative drive

nah, that's their greed.

it's why sociopaths make the best politicians.

they can disconnect identities like masks.

America's national debt really isn't a big deal, as it's all in US dollars.

>be stephen hawking
>have an IQ of 800
>have black hole in captivity in my labratory
>haven't seen/talked to/interacted with a nigger or a muslim since I met Obama back in 2007
>under the impression that everyone in the world must be equal, and since genetics isn't my field of study believe everything the (((scientists))) say about race being a social construct
>"since everyone is exactly the same why can't we just be one government so we can colonize Andromeda or whatever the fuck?"

people with high IQ never have to interact with the lowest of the low (who make up at least half the world population) so they think things couldn't possibly be as bad as they are

places with more niggers have more people who hate niggers
places with more immigrants have more people who hate immigrants

The separation from the working class has a lot to do with it, but I find this happens only with those that have used their IQ to gain fame and wealth as the main goals.

I remember a random 12 year old Pajeet from India, forgot his name, was one of the smartest mathematical minds in the world. Grew up in squalor in some poor Indian shithole. I wonder what's his opinion on liberal politics.

>Democrats are comprised of the extremely poor and the wealthy elite that take advantage of them
>Republicans are largely middle class and sane

I made the right choice.

>utopian vision sounds great
>but when attempted it turned out utter shit
>surely I can figure out how to achieve the grand goal of "free stuff for everyone"!

Are you a fucking moron. Donald trump takes a dozen positions on every fucking topic. Sometimes in the same fucking sentence. He is a abject moron.

What's stupid about Stephen Hawking's political views?

>you will never achieve anything of value in life and will die a failure.

can't wait. was 100% worth it just for the laughs.

i'd rather die a failure than a leaf.

You just summed up the Frankfurt school of thought.

You are right, but with two exceptions:
1. Most STEM graduates operate on logical basis and if you risk your career for expressing right-wing views you... don't express your views openly.
2. In the US more than 50% of your engineers are foreign-born or belong to 2nd/3rd generation immigrants from non-EU countries. With an exception of slavs and (some) asians they tend to vote liberal, because they think they get a protection and privileges from them. The thought itself is not without its merit.

>but when attempted it turned out utter shit

Yeah because all the successful places like SF and NYC are always ultra conservative and support Trump.

This is the ultimate red pill. You cannot deny the fact that all smart people have drastically different beliefs than you virgin neckbeards. Can you swallow it though? Or do you take the blue pill and stay ignorant forever.

Bobby Fischer knew what was (((up)))

IQ is multidimensional

IQ is like a battery - a given voltage - but your mind is an engine you build

people with high IQs CAN think and learn to build a thinking mind.

1% of people think

therefore 1% of high IQ people think

therefore 99% of high IQ people will have retarded fucking views

Luckily most people will hear something that sounds good or impacts them (taxes) and follow that - so they can be republican and still retarded

I believe conservative values comes from your gut. Liberal values have to be rationalized. So I guess liberal values are rationalizations gone haywire.

hawking is a legit fucking retard

>not understanding your countries economics.

It isn't a big deal at all. There's a certain limit you hit where it turns into a big deal but it isn't there yet

Being good at math=/=Good at politics

Seriously, watch this shit if you haven't already. A KGB defector spelling out what the Soviets did to get the United States to the catastrophic state it is today.

Kek. It's most certainly a big deal, no matter which way you cut it. The current monetary and fiscal policy of almost every country (particularly the US) is inherently unsustainable and will inevitably collapse, the only problem is it's difficult to tell when the breaking point will be.

This reminds me of one of my college teachers. Not sure how it came up but she talked about swearing and how much she hates it and so do all the people she knows.

It was like she didn't understand that most people, especially poorer swear all the time.

Nah. The money that is offered is in US dollars must be used as such. It's in China's best interest to have the US doing well if US is in debt to them.

underrated

Because they're experts in things like science but probably barely read much more into politics than the average normie. Plus scientists traditionally have to parrot the retarded views of those in power (the globalists in this case) or else their funding gets cut off

Also Kasparov was born and raised in the USSR which in itself explains why he could have retarded political beliefs

Hey, i don't want to derail the thread, but i'm curious: how does sexual segregation works in your country?
If you have a sister, she just stays silent and barely talks to you and then you forget about her after she gets married?
Do people get to know their wives before the wedding? What about other girls in country? You just ignore each other or how does it work?

>high IQ people
>have very stupid political views
the lack of self-awareness is astounding.

Complete lack of empathy.

These people have never opened their eyes to human nature.

It's literally called "the intelligence trap". Intelligent people adopt stupid opinions, then they use their intelligence to expertly defend their point. When no-one can win an argument against them they keep holding their stupid opinion.

So you think constantly adding trillions of dollars of ever-accelerating debt has no ill effects and can just keep going on forever?

What gets me about this whole "marxist indoctrination" is that Russia is now a neoliberal shithole, with privatized everything, even our "government companies" are de-facto private.
Public healthcare exists, but it's shit and 90% of working people get their medical services from private companies. We have more traffic on our private roads, than on public ones. Welfare simply does not exist.
OH THE IRONY.

Something along those lines is what I also believe. There are concepts that _could_ work and yield better results than whatever concepts are currently applied. The problem is that due to human nature these "ideal circumstances" can not possibly be created. Another thing is that they may prioritize goals differently. Say achieving goal X is their top priority, even if it means giving up Y it's really just them assigning Y less value / importance when it can have much more value to others.

false dichotomy. NYC and SF are successful because evil gabidalism..

In my first post I told you there's a limit. When you cannot pay back the debt then you have an issue.

US can pay the debt currently 10 fold.

Obviously if they keep borrowing in mass amounts it becomes overwhelming and then will effect GDP of the country. But as of now analysts believe the debt has barely effected GDP of the country

those people are handpicked to be famous by the establishment though, there are lots of extremely smart people n the planet that hold opinions that are contradictory to what they want

A lot of high IQ people in academia are pandered to, as in being a professor / PhD literally is a lot like being at school. You write papers, review papers, conform to really really strict rules, do talks, so many of them sound similar in terms of vocabulary and way of speaking. If it feels like school you're still being a kid sheltered from the real world in a sense. Nothing wrong with it but the setup is you get a nice comfy environment and steady salary to further the field of science, and you don't have to see much of the world outside of that. Furthermore they travel a lot and do talks etc so "globalism" seems like a great idea because guess what they are all WORLDLY and INTELLECTUAL and shit and it seems like a nice idea because they will still get to do their science thing and have nice things. In the science community it is a good thing to travel and intermix with groups, share ideas etc.

Somehow most of them think it applies to the rest of the world. A PhD student literally revealed his power level by saying "I cannot believe how stupid people were to vote for Trump", another guy said "Drumpf".

REEEEE...

Hawking has been a vegetable for decades, mentally as well as physically. Everything you think you're hearing his little robot voice say is coming externally from a leftist think tank that wheels him around from event to event in his drone chair, spewing whatever garbage they'd scripted for the day... wake up idiot.

Because inteligence corelates with how stuck up they are with their own ideals.
They just can't fathom that forcing those ideals on others is bad.

Same reason why universities are festering with SJW bullshit.

Edit:

This goes for STEM too, have no clue about humanities but there it is probably worse because they do the same thing + (((research))).

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This guy sums it all up, probably a bright guy but the level of self absorbtion and he's just flaunting out words like "racism xenophobia" and somehow thinking that shit will fly because he's a "calm and rational" rocket scientist

I lived in the states most of my life but I think I can answer this.

Family you know really well unless it's a cousin and it depends on how strict your family is.

You will always meet your potential wife to be before marrying if you are going for an arranged marriage.

With the current corporate culture that is developing here. We are starting to see women and men conversing more often and chatting alot. So, I'm predicting heavy change the next 5 years for women.

>Why is it common for ultra high IQ people to have very stupid political views?
>> Garry Kasparov
Chess player and not a political philosopher. Also, Jewish and has actually said a few red pilled things
>> Noam Chomsky
Literally the head cuck political philosopher.
>> Stephen Hawking
Is actually a think tank of a few great physicists, so any political opinions coming from "him" are innocuous.

like what? just curious

>Why is it common for ultra high IQ people to have very stupid political views?
People implicitly base their political views on the idea that everyone else is more or less on the same level as them. Look at all the white countries where systems that worked fine for white people suddenly become infeasible when low-iq third world sewage starts flowing in.

Becuase theyre not interested in politics, people with high IQs tend to just be smart in the things that theyre interested in. Space n shiet

As a sidenot, those Gypsies who manage to break out of their social cirles usually hate the other Gyppos more than anybody else.

Because smart people know accepting $500,000 to shill a crap corrupt ideology is way better than shilling what you truly believe, destitute and jerking off to anime alone.

The current debt to GDP ratio is over 100%. The US can't pay back the debt even if they wanted to. Default is the only option, and it will happen.

When an entity issues bonds but also has complete power over printing the money with which to pay interest on them, confidence is weakened. When that entity has a history of borrowing more and more money all the while paying interest with constantly-devaluing currency, confidence is weakened further. When confidence in a fiat currency falls sufficiently, that currency faces collapse.

I think if you're a person like them you have to praise the status quo when put on the spot.

If any had said something positive about Trump for example the media would have gone apeshit.

>(((Garry Kasparov)))
>(((Noam Chomsky)))

They are not stupid politically, they ((((know exactly what they are doing)))).

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> unless it's a cousin and it depends on how strict your family is.
It's not a meme then? I mean, we hear all the time that muslims marry their own cousins, but i've always assumed it's a meme.
> With the current corporate culture that is developing here. We are starting to see women and men conversing more often and chatting alot. So, I'm predicting heavy change the next 5 years for women.
Don't you think that there will be an uproar against it from conservative muslims?
When such cases are rare and only happens in corporate settings, i think they can turn a blind eye on it. But if it becomes universal...
Best wishes to you, tho. I hope there will be some kind of reform in the Islam, so we can peacefully co-exist and avoid turning the whole world into ashes in the another ideology-driven world war.

>National debt is not a problem

Well, in this specific case his point is based on his belief that the debt is not real. That the money, being fiat, and created by the banks (both central and private) have created is apart from resources.

Who does the US exactly owe the debt to? The USA developed the entire State credit and lending system. All banks require the USA to funciton, and the US dollar still makes up approx.90% of all currency reserves globally.

Who the do the country's owe the money to?

Why not consider a possibility that we're the dumb ones.

>SF
>Successful
I wouldn't call a homeless population larger than the population of Alaska and high STD/AIDS rates successful...

You're saying they can't and then you're saying they can by printing money. They can technically print the money and pay them back. It'll inflate everything and devalue the dollar but they can pay back the debt IF NEEDED. Like I said, China will have to be willing to lose their stock that they purchased in america which is highly unlikely. America have ways of paying the debt back but nobody is willing to bear the expense.

I've met people with an IQ over 145 some of whom were the most narrow minded people I ever came across.
As in very good in science and/or math but totally clueless about politics and society.

>be a bunch of sheltered retards on Sup Forums
LOL GUYS LISTEN TO ME I KNOW ALL ABOUT POLITICS

What if the Chinese stop buying our bonds?

Here even the most hardline liberal universities' history faculties are considered de facto fascist territory. Cuck liberal historians say and write things which would ostracise them in some "more developed" societies.

#IYI

I'd say their high IQ makes it difficult for them to relate to the common man and develop their empathy, which makes them unable to take part in the collective consciousness.

>be a leaf on Sup Forums
LOL GUYS READ MY POST I MAKE VERRY INTELLIGENT STATEMENTS

Isn't gazprom literally the old Soviet ministry of energy turned into a private company?

There is no problem with the private sector but the problem is privateizing something that was gov owned. Canada pays the highest cell phone rates in the developed world because the politicians have the old government run phone companies to their buddies

Thank you for your kind words and not just throwing slurs.

It's a meme here except for the most conservative families where they think it's haram to look at your cousins uncovered but alot of families like mine don't give a shit

And yes it will cause a problem but last 2 years the government removed power from the religious police. And nothing crazy happened and they're realising that we can move forward like this.

You hurt me trudea-chan. :(

Simply because intelligent people gravitate away from politics, since it's such a dumb, evil and immoral system. I mean, look at the type of employees to go to the public sector. Obese black women without high school diplomas.

Intelligent people go towards STEM fields and economics. So naturally they don't know much about politics. Bill Gates, for example is clueless about politics.

The national debt isn't really a big deal actually. People act like it is because they think it functions as a normal debt like the kind regular people and businesses have but it's actually quite different.

It's weird becsuse what they consider racism is really broad. They also don't do a very good jobs of explaining why collectivism is ok for some groups but not for others (whites). It goes back to the point you made about post grads being sheltered.

Because when ultra high IQ people have redpilled political views like Bobby Fischer or Kanye West they're immediately labelled (((crazy))). Only the people with (((acceptable))) views get promoted and become celebrities for being smart.

Sup Forums please stick to hating the Jews.

Hawking's voice controls were hacked years ago, maybe even decades ago. Funny how he always mentions global government

>its another boring "LOL LEAF AMIRITE GUISE? xD" post
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ITT brainlets that believe they are experts in geopolitics and consequently know better than highly intelligent people who study the field as opposed to shitposting on a Hungarian water polo forum.