Tfw you finally grow up and realize that capitalism is superior to communism because even though communism is a fairer...

>tfw you finally grow up and realize that capitalism is superior to communism because even though communism is a fairer system of resource division, capitalism was never meant to be a perfect system for divison, it was meant as the best system for division that would maximize human efficiency.
>tfw you realize that even though communism would be fairer, a communist society would be less productive and we would enjoy less pleasures
>tfw you realize that the reason capitalism prevails over communism is because it takes into account the faults of human nature and uses them for the advantage of a community. While communism largely ignores human nature and can only operate at full force when every person is a perfect angel who will do his duty even without direct incentive.
>tfw you realize that now that we know that capitalism is the perfect efficiency optimization system and communism is the perfect resource division system, humanity's main goal right now is to use eugenics to breed increasingly perfect humans that can operate at capitalism level efficiency in a communist society to create the final utopia.

My eyes have finally opened, Sup Forums. I am no longer a socialist nor communist. At least not yet anymore. There is a lot of work to be done. How do we breed out greed from our species? Will genociding white people and then waiting for 10 to 20 generations be enough? Is this the reason that (((they))) are trying to genocide white people? Have (((they))) known this all along? Should I join (((them)))? How do I convert to judaism?

in either system, i'm a champion farter

A shame there's only one reply to this post. I appreciate ya user, good insight.
>COMMUNISM BTFO

Thank you man. It feels good to see the light.

glad to see polacks in panama

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congratulations, you're not retarded. I know that seems like an accomplishment in today's political atmosphere

Why does communism even exist still, should have died in the 90s with the Soviet Union collapsing

it is quite the eureka momemt when you first realize, congrats user! keep digging!

its a good idea in theory. IMO It might POSSIBLY work some time hundreds of years in the future if every country becomes industrialized like the west and scarcity becomes a meme.

If that ever can happen is questionable tho

>we would enjoy less pleasures
The pleasures are a ruse, you moron. The quality of life is not increased by production or technology. People in tribes thousands of years ago only had to work a few hours a day hunting and gathering, and they were much happier than the average person today.

Capitalism is based on greed and the lie that stuff makes you happy.

You literally read the first 13 words and went into an autistic rant.

You literally pointed that out.

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>The pleasures are a ruse, you moron. The quality of life is not increased by production or technology. People in tribes thousands of years ago only had to work a few hours a day hunting and gathering, and they were much happier than the average person today.

Pleasure is not a ruse you fucking retard. Easy access to pussy, the power to easily buy experiences like travel and good food, etc. I don't want to gather and I don't want to hunt. Fuck that.

>Capitalism is based on greed and the lie that stuff makes you happy.

True, and that is why we need to genocide the white race and then breed a new generation of humans that will not have greed.

>greed is white

VERSACE VERSACE? VERSACE VERSACE. VERSACE. VERSACE VERSACE. VERSACE VERSACE.

Jesus fucking Christ.

>People in tribes thousands of years ago only had to work a few hours a day hunting and gathering, and they were much happier than the average person today.

Hard to be sad or happy when you have to constantly hunt and forage for food.

>couple hours a day
>constantly

C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S

>How do we breed out greed from our species?
define greed

>humans that will not have greed
What, like care bears? My little pony? fucking spongebob?

Greed is as fundamental to our existence as hunger, thirst, and lust you moron. Its not going to go away

>and they were much happier than the average person today.
Maybe I'm a materialist sheeple or whatever the buzzword of the day on leftypol is, but I think I'd prefer my processed foods, smartphones, preventative medicines, strawberry-flavored toothpaste and high standard of living over shitting in the woods and dying from a tooth abscess.

tfw you visit 3 communist countries (before the wall fell), and you realize that communism is a shitty system for division, it is completely unfair, and the communist governments take strict measures so that their citizens do not escape their shitty countries.

>fair

this is a completely subjective term that no one can quantify. Basing an entire economic system on this bullshit will lead to nothing less then the trainwrecks that have been every country that has attempted to implement it.

>they were much happier than the average person today.
Yeah, except for the fact that a scratch could kill you, and you're always risking starvation, and you have to walk across town to fetch water, and you're always filthy, and all there is to do is work, and you had to go to bed as soon as it became dark, and you were considered to be the property of some faggot that you've never met, and...
I could go on far too long.
Capitalism is why we are where we are. If we give it up any more than we already have we'll become stagnant. It already feels like we are pretty close to stagnation. We need to find a way to let people reach for the horizon again.

>define greed

The complete unwillingness to do great things without the prospect of great compensation.

For example, why are do people make billions of dollars? Why isn't the top salary capped at maybe 1 million dollars?. That's a fucking lot, but not enough to greedy people.

You can't have communism without repressing this desire because this leads to the cancer that has killed every soclialist state: greedy politicians who use socialism to pool money in the government, take a huge cut for themselves and their cronies, and then give the remaining 1% of the wealth to the rest of people.

It can go away with some genetic modifications, maybe even natural modifications via eugenics. Completely normal.

That is a shit assesment. I still say that all communist governments have not been real communisn and that is because of the previously mentioned greedy leaders.

If only we could genetically enhace humans to not have greed. Then we could live in the perfect communist utopia.

>capitalism more efficient
>communism more fair
>misses the point that efficiency doesn't matter
>thinks the ultimate goal is to live in a castle on Mars surrounded by robots who do daily menial labor

got a hard truth for you user.

The reason you feel like we're close to stagnation is that you are far, far removed from the centers of innovation and meaning and purpose in the human race. Those circles get smaller every year. But "we" are fine. It's just "you" with the problem.

Capitalism is as fair as nature itself.

Pro Tip: Life isn't fair.
Specially if your definition of fair is similar to that of entitlement.

I have a similar thought, where once our industry becomes fully robotized, there would be a possibility for the ideals that exist in communism, such as the perfection of human nature, except in robots.

I'm aware and the stagnation is going to hit hard when the underclass collapses.
Lost technology in our future.

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>tfw you realize that the reason capitalism prevails over communism is because it takes into account the faults of human nature and uses them for the advantage of a community.
>and uses them for the advantage of a community.
Этo нe вepнo. Кaпитaлиcты дeлaют для ceбя выгoдy. Я Aмepикaнeц.

TLTT(Too lazy to translate) - Capitalism suffers from the same thing as Communism, crooked assholes.

Soon you'll realize that there's no superior system, the system is what you make it out to be.

Communism isn't fair at all what the fuck are you talking about?

>yfw there are commies in this thread right now who are unironically admitting that the only way for communism to work is total and universal brainwashing and removal of a major aspect of the human psyche

How many more ticks will communism put on the list of signs of an unsafe cult?

>Will genociding white people and then waiting for 10 to 20 generations be enough
They are literally the only race that any form of this would be able to be implemented.
>chinks are super jews
>mudslimes would chop eachothers heads off
>niggers and abos are too retarded
>spics are already commies and they're third world shit holes

Germanics/Anglos are literally the only people with built in work ethic along with an incredibly strong communal sense.

>>misses the point that efficiency doesn't matter

Shut the fuck up. I bet you have an iphone as expensive as mine so shut the fuck up you fucking retard. No one is going to make iphones in a communist society... unless we genocide white people and breed greed out of our genes.

The communist definition of fair is basically: No one has too little and no one has too much.

The problem we have (or had, given that I am now a capitalist*) is that there are people who have waaaay too much money and power compared to others. The playing field is not fair. If you are born to a rich man I can guarantee from the start, without knowing anything else about you, that you will live a longer and happier life than someone born to a poor man.

That's not good, specially if you aren't one of the lucky ones with rich parents, which also happen to be literally the 1% of people.

A fairer division of wealth would be:
The lower members of our society earn 70k a year.
The middle members of our society earn 100k a year.
The highest members of our society earn 200k a year.

btw just a reminder Karl Marx literally agrees with me on this. He only thought it would work in western Europe.

But the only reason white people have been able to get ahead by so much is their greed.

I appreciate that, but I think that now we can safely genocide you and then learn from what you did, without inheriting your greed.

There are many non-white scientists, businessmen, politicians, etc. today. We no longer need you. There would be no problem with just gassing you.

Also, your assesment is not completely wrong but when we gas all white people there will be a lot more wealth to go around and the increase in wealth will help the "violent" races calm down a little. I've never seen a rich man stab a guy for 5 bucks.

>I bet you have an Iphone
It doesn't matter. Success is relative to what other people have. If others have as much as you do, you think you are doing well. The reason communism didn't "work" was because it was compared to capitalism in relative terms.

According to your theory, happiest people on earth should live in the US. Look up happiness surveys and read brave new world.

>He only thought it would work in western Europe.
And he was fucking wrong lol. White people are clearly not good enough for perfect communism.

>because it takes into account the faults of human nature and uses them for the advantage of a community

This is the key to any successful system

>It doesn't matter
Yes it matters.

If you believe that material gains do not bring you happiness then why the fuck do you have an iphone?

I can tell you why I have an iphone. Because I can shitpost on it. I can watch porn from it. And I can read books from it. It brings MATERIAL pleasure.

Why do you have it huh? Why are you enjoyg the EVIL material pleasures huh? Fucking hipocrite.

Why would it become a better system if there was more industrialization?

Do you understand how they work people in those factories?

HUNTING DOESN'T TAKE ONLY A FEW HOURS ITS A SHIT TON OF WORK YOU MONG.

Can you drag a 1000 pound Elk up the side of a hill, bleed it, gut it, butcher it, smoke it in a fire, render the fat and turn the hide into leather?

It takes a village but if it was better we never would have stopped. People ARE happier because you need to stay happy and healthy or you die. It required training, focus, patience, guts and mettle.

You needed to be a man or you became everyone's bitch or got pushed off a cliff.

Shitskins blew up the towers,killing 3000+ and in turn we turned the middle East into a dumping zone. Try to fight us, we will have your men neutered and your women pumped with our babies.

You can basically have a communist community in a capitalist system if that is your desire. The opposite is not true. Capitalism is the fairest system, period.

tfw i purposefully mispronounce luxury brands like versace, gucci, bvlgari, hermes, etc in front of my girlfriend to annoy her
tfw she slips up and says 'gucky' while we're out shopping

The actual gain in efficiency is not what matters.

I remember being just as happy owning an 80486 loading images 30s at a time.

My best memories with tech was in ICQ/IRC early days. It is always about what others have and what you don't. It's a never ending race unless regulated by gov't.

Keep going and join us in Ancapistan or just continue being a faggot. Either way, the state will end eventually.

capitalism is bad because socialism takes the edge off it.

yea but that means I have to give my shit to other people and what I want is that other people give me their shit

>Shitskins blew up the towers,killing 3000+ and in turn we turned the middle East into a dumping zone.

Yeah but when they did it was called a "wrong interpretation of the Qur'an. Such a pity to be them. We will pray for them." and then when you did it was "RACIST. FUCKING RACIST WHITE PEOPLE KILLING MUSLIMS. ISLAMOPHOBIC!".

The times are turning and it is pretty ironic than in 2017 you mention you pumping our women with your babies when we all know that less than 50% of the population in pre-white countries is now non-white. Good example: The US. If you count children today, non-whites make up 51%.

You are a dead race. Thanks for building the modern world but it's time for real men to take the wheel.

Capitalism: work my life away to pay taxes and have a roof over my head and some spending shekels in exchange for making someone else rich enough to retire at 30 with a 7 figure bank account.

Communism: work my life away in the fields and factories for a raw potato in exchange for glorious state and high ranking party members who retire at 30 with an 8 figure bank account, 4 mistresses, an army, most of my countries assets and half a tonne of cocaine.

Both are flawed but i'll take the one with long service leave and free coffee.

Also I have the things because I live in a country that isn't communist. If I lived in a country that was communist and there was another country that wasn't, it wouldn't work either because now the people in that country would have shit i don't have.

Does anyone need a BMW or a Veyron? Does it matter if you go 165 MPH or 90MPH? Only if there is somebody else going 130 MPH and your girl stays with you or leaves you for someone better.

The wealth isn't the tools or the money, it's the white man himself that you wish to genocide. With his raw willpower he takes the resources of the earth and gives them value, forging them into tools. Without him they will just turn back into dust.

hey OP, good for you, i guess, but you are still pretty retarded bro

communism is not 'fairer' in any sense.

what is fair? how about what is the natural order of things? natural selection, survival of the fittest, etc is how the universe balances itself. in terms of human economics, the equivilent is capitalism.

communism literally doesn't exist in any known natural form. communism does not bring any balance, communism breeds excess, lower quality humans that cannot support themselves. feeding those who care not to learn to feed themselves is immoral therefor communism is immoral and unnatural.

but, survival of the fittest, aka might-makes-right, can be seen every time any group of humans, or any species, interacts with another.

Your next redpill is that democracy is not a good form of government.
In a democracy, most people don't know what they want. The ones in charge of delivering the information to people are the ones who control the narrative, deciding who the good and the bad ones are, thus what people think, and thus, the government. The MSM and the Press end up ruling the people.
Repeat a lie, make it the only thing the people see, and your lie will become the truth.

Do you know history? It was never implemented in western Europe. I'm not even saying it would've worked out but it just wouldnt have been the complete disasters that they were everywhere else.

Also the reason Europe was able to get ahead and start the industrial revolution was because of its protestant work ethic that you misinterpret as greed, and the fact that we were willing to go to any lengths for our people, which made us unstoppable at war.

>There would be no problem with just gassing you

Lol try it Pedro. We had no problem conquering the world once. If you release the chains the jews have on us we'll be able to purge the world of all the filth.

I used to buy into the whole "Communism would be a utopia but it can never work" meme. Than one day it hit me - why the fuck would you EVER want to live under communism? It would fucking suck! There is no ambition in communism, no reason to dream, to work harder, to ever seek to do more than just man your fucking spot in the assembly line at the tractor factory. I'd die if I ever had to live like that; Communism crushes the human spirit.

Maybe look at ant colonies or bee colonies. You have 'selfless ants' who kill themselves to put out a candle. What matters is the propagation of genes. That is what is selected for. Since all male worker ants have the same DNA, theirs has a higher chance of getting propagated if they sacrifice themselves for the good of the colony.

>Lol try it Pedro. We had no problem conquering the world once. If you release the chains the jews have on us we'll be able to purge the world of all the filth.

>implying you can even get out of their chains

Top kek faggot. Get real. You know that if you have a daughter, your daughter's sons will be darker than a black hole. You are a dead race pal.

>People in tribes thousands of years ago where much happier than the average person today

get the fuck off the internet and go live in the woods then

Dumb.

In Communism everyone would still have a duty. There would be programmers, engineers, politicians, policemen, professional shitposters. And they would all derive pleasure from doing their duty as best as they can for the sake of the mother land.

We've already begun to wake up with the election of Donald Trump, Brexit, Marine Le Pen, etc.

If you somehow united a nonwhite global coallition against white people we would fuck you in the ass so hard it will be taught for generations how your boy holes were created to service white cock.

>You know that if you have a daughter, your daughter's sons will be darker than a black hole. You are a dead race pal.

>implying anyone wants to fuck a tiny little brown monkey man

>In Communism everyone would still have a duty. There would be programmers, engineers, politicians, policemen, professional shitposters. And they would all derive pleasure from doing their duty as best as they can for the sake of the mother land.


99% of people feel responsible first for themselves, and then their family, and then their friends, and then their home town, and then MAYBE their "mother land".

communism takes away their choice to focus their energies on their closest circles of responsibility and forces them to support an almost abstract social construct first. it is immoral. it is slavery of the individual to the whims of an 'unseen' majority which is always coerced and manipulated into the hands of a few.

communism is slavery. period.

>spics are already commies
Chile has already a strong sense of nationalism. What we lack here is getting rid of that fucking inferiority complex we always had, so we get rid of socialism.

Say what you want about Communism but in the practice, it has cropped all the potential anyone can have. All its spoken "justice" would turn into injustice once you realize the person you have next to you earn the same, by doing one tenth of the work you do.

Besides one person always work for themselves first, then for the people they hold dear (family, children) and then for the nation. We are hardwired this way.

Socialists tend to negate this and think that human behavior is easily modifiable. This is not true, and you would have with all that propaganda designed for this end, at best, a highly repressed society.

Get off the pony and consider that your worst enemies at this moment aren't from outside. Even Rome fell because of this.

LOL, that really gets to the actual motivation behind communism. It's not a pooling of resources, it's theft of existing resources and then using those in a VERY inefficient manner so that everyone ends up worse off for it. It's truly a joke.

t. Anarcho-primativist

The owners of big companies make the money, banks, oil and energy companies usually have (((owners))) and they should be kicked out. The shares of the company should be taken from globalist jews by government and give the citizens an equal share of each company and thus an equal share of the profits. Now jews take everything.

Jews are pillaging the west because they are using capitalism to create their own communist prison for us to work in.

Redistribution of wealth shouldn't be necessary unless something has gone wrong. Things have turned to shit. Everything is owned by them and not by us.

ITT: anti-nationalist jews

>The owners of big companies make the money, banks, oil and energy companies usually have (((owners))) and they should be kicked out. The shares of the company should be taken from globalist jews by government and give the citizens an equal share of each company and thus an equal share of the profits. Now jews take everything.
>Jews are pillaging the west because they are using capitalism to create their own communist prison for us to work in.
>Redistribution of wealth shouldn't be necessary unless something has gone wrong. Things have turned to shit. Everything is owned by them and not by us.


wow your thoughts are as deep as any teenage communist or skinhead.

>give shares to Chad and Stacy
>they either squander it or fail to profit from them
that's the only prospect and therefore those shares will be rendered useless. stop thinking that throwing pearls to the hogs have a sense

humanity's main goal right now is to reduce reliance on fossil fuels and improve resource/energy/"manpower" allocation via AI, where manpower is also AI, and I'm at home watching JAV and eating hot dogs all day.

this

You are both gay and leaf is probably a jew.

>reminder that if your biggest goal isnt to wipe out the jewish menace then you are a cuck

Being a shareholder isn't that hard actually, it's better to buy some shares than put it in a bank account, maybe we should start educating hogs or start shooting them. They'd eat the world.