Capitalism should be ILLEGAL

Capitalism is the reason why Poverty exist. IF we get rid of Capitalism and use a mixed market Economy, then we can solve Poverty. FUCK your Laissez-fair, the gov`t be BUSTING your TRUST

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>Capitalism is why poverty exists
Then show me Communist countries where the citizens are all wealthy.

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Your not even trying, are you?

Capitalism hasn't been allowed

there's only sovereignty where there should be only private properties

Communism itself doesn`t make progress, Capitalism does. Communism is used for safety nets. So we need Communism and Capitalism to work together. Capitalism to make some people rich and communism to give food, water, shelter, education and medical needs

to the poor and middle class

>communism to give food, water, shelter, education and medical needs
>to the poor and middle class

Communism destroys the middle class, read a book.

This is proof why 2 nukes wasn't enough.

So did Reaganomics, but who cares about that. Mixing Communism with capitalism is the best solution we have.

Absolutely cringing at this thread desu

>Mixing shit with water makes the water better

Reagan didn't make the middle class 0% of the populace meanwhile communism did to that.

Look at America, Free Primary and Secondary Education, plus a homeless shelter for the poor, in addition to that. free food given by volunteeer service/salvation army/religious places

Socialism is meant to make the country poor and poor until it collapses and u make Communism of it. Communism them make the ones close to government richer and richer while sucking the money from the low class.Providing only the lowest of needs and cutting the possibility from a average Joe climbing the economic steps and make a good life for him and his children. I hope some day people understand that this to systems are one and a failure.

You mean I can't own anything? Well whatchyagonnadoaboutit?
Next thing you are going to ban is gravity?

Look at France, Germany, Spain, UK and Italy.
Free primary and Secondary Education, free Healthcare, free food and shelter for the poor

>capitalism is the reason poverty exists
>the system where you have to go out and earn money for yourself is the reason there's poverty
Can't compete or don't want to, pick your poison.

Expressing sympathies for Communism should legitimately be a criminal offense.

reagon isnt all free market, look at the best universities in the world all private, our healthcare isnt even that bad its just that niggers and minorities are so retarded that they get addicted to fast food

No, it means, you can own anything, as long as the poor get their basic needs(food, water, shelter, education, healthcare)

Capitalism is one of the few reasons why there are any people anywhere who don't live in poverty.

>Capitalism is the reason why Poverty exist.

So there was no poverty before capitalism?
That seems confusing to me, because I thought poverty was the default state of mankind. We're born with nothing, and we certainly evolved with nothing.

Capitalism is voluntary exchange. You want to end voluntary exchange. You are a totalitarian like Stalin.

Poverty is just a mindset.

this

>the system where you have to go out and earn money for yourself and not sharing to help the poor is the reason there's poverty. If you`re rich you help the poor.get up at their feet. That`s your obligation

sauce

It goes even further than that. There's literally nothing wrong with poverty. Poverty is the driving force towards making something of your life. Without poverty, there's no incentive to do anything.

>be poor
>work hard
>no longer be poor

>be rich
>don't want to become poor
>work hard

Communism is the religion of equality of outcome and it's followers don't want to take risks, work or be decent human beings who respect other people's personal property.

Poverty is not a punishment, it's a reason not to make stupid decisions.

Then why UK has free healthcare and education then? UK is one of the richest countries in the world yet they have FREE HEALTHCARE and EDUCATION

why do you bother arguing with rednecks?

> we know communism is a shitty ideology and need capitalism to produce the means, so we can redistribute that according to our desire

Communism TAKE AWAY food and shelter away, each time, and have a big problem providing proper, real education and medical assistance after they kill all their intellectuals.

With Sup Forums /pol mods being shariablue and marxist faggots in general, you can post this drivel 10 times per day I guess

>obligation
U cant force people to feed your higher morality high just to u can feel better at night knowing that u are failure that cant get that money to help them, so u think is moral to use other people money to reach your goal. You are a loser if u want to help the poor use your money not your neighbor's. U are a sick person.

And why would you need to ban capitalism to achieve that? Nobody is entitled to anything.

ALSO REMINDER THAT THIS IS ANOTHER SLIDE THEREAD BY THE SAME PERSON.

Like I said, my dream is to reduce poverty to the extent. And to do that is to use Tax Money from the middle class and rich to help the poor get free healthcare, education, food, water, and shelter

I don't agree with your political/economic views, but the image beckons me to exclaim how anyone who hasn't played Nier: Automata need to. Right now.

Just do it. You'll thank me later.

Define poverty.

Because they made a national decision to allocate thier resources that way. I don't find this difficult. Are you trying to say that they are not capitalists because they are socialists? They definitely weren't socialists when they became wealthy.

So your idea is to tax working people into extinction through the threat of force?

your 2b wouldn't exist without capitalism

Communism is not a system that is for the poor, but a system that is for the very tip top of the rich and political ruling class. History has shown this to be true time and time again and anyone who does not know this is historically illiterate.

>Hey you, make money and sustain yourself

>I can't I'm a Communist

What did OP mean by this??

this desu senpai

Increase taxes on the rich and top half of middle class.( 40% of their income) and decrease taxes on the poor and working class(10-20% of their income) GENIUS!!!

u are so fucking dumb poverty will never extinct is u say the poverty level is earning less them 500$ if u give them 1000$ so they can have all those things the poverty level just when to 1000$. So a person who win 1000$ is still poor u just move up the scale of poverty and shorten the top because they have to pay more taxes and have less money to invest so job count reduce probably they have to send works home
and u just created more unemployment and now u need to pay 1000$ to these persons to. If u continue the cicle u will have no jobs and u broke the country so now u cant pay 1000$ to the unemployed.

>Capitalism is the reason why Poverty exist.

No, the reason for poverty are stupid people.
If I remove capitalism tomorrow and thus all incentive for the smarter, inventive, more productive people to give it their best, you'll end up with mass starvation.
Because the majority was never had enough drive to be productive to support themselves. They were always piggyback riding on the rest.

Capitalism gives you a good mix of the rich having to hand over enough of their wealth to keep the poor fed without robbing them of any incentive to overproduce wealth.

If I give some random loser a million he will be broke in a decade. If I give it to someone smart there is a good chance he'll have invested it in such a way (founded a company for example) that it is now producing wealth on its own.

This is why it's hilarious when Lefties bring up Cuba as an example of a functioning Communist society, based entirely on Michael Moore's propaganda piece Sicko.

Meanwhile in Cuba
>normal people are starving
>normal people don't have access to healthcare worthy of the name
>normal people can't speak out without getting thrown into jail
>everything is ran by the state
>everything is expensive
>meanwhile the communists who rule through violence live in luxury and have access to excellent healthcare

Huh, it's almost like, if I use violence, I don't have to convince other people that my ideas are good or even feasible.

If you're against _free market_ capitalism you're straight up retarded or a goddamn cuck.

Poverty is the result of humans not being equal you retard.
However some systems like communism will make sure you stay in abject poverty no matter what, as witnessed in the soviet bloc, the chicomm sphere, and various south-american countries up to this day (venezuela comes to mind).
I m not going to even bother with nigger commies because, lets face it, no system will ever work with niggers.
tl;dr: quit being such an envious commie bitch, or try to shill for capitalism by mean of reverse psych.

So, China? That's working gre-

Oh right, place is a shithole for normal people

Free Market Economy is the reason why the Great Depression started. Businesses should be surveyed to prevent Monopoly, Trusts, conglomerate merging, overconsumption of resources, exploitation, money laundering, and other corrupted actions

But there is no pure capitalism, all economies are mixed. What are you on about?

This.
You will never turn a total tard into a successful businessman/investor.

The only way to equalize them is to cut everyone down to the level of the bottom of the barrel trash, since uplifting the trash is not possible.

U dumb fuck the great Depression was the fucking government bailing out the banks capitalism says if a business fails let it fail .. God u are so retarded

Univiereities in 2017 are liberal echo chambers. There is no tolerance to opposing viewpoints.

There aren't a lot of conservative laden universities that aren't disenfranchised or belittled by (((them)))

funny how even with the great depression there wasn't widespread starvation like what happens in communist countries every time

Raiding and pillaging is a valid historical profession. In civilized societies we simply give our pillagers money to not pillage. The alternative is not give nothing and suddenly the problem goes away. Give nothing and the alternative is you get your ass kicked.

Being a viking is JUST AS LEGITIMATE as being a cubicle worker, so dont get all high and mighty, conquest and raiding is not crime, it is a time honored human tradition which our species spent thousands of years perfecting.

Lolbertarians are the most retarded fucks in existence "just make crime illegal :^)" It doesn't work that way kiddo. With out welfare you are going to get stolen from and you deserve it, because you obviously are not an experienced combatant, and so the strong subjugate the weak.

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All systems of government end up like this though. Any system will be exploited and manipulated by the elite for their own advancement if they are safe to do so. You cant blame that on communism.

leave the trolling and shitposting to the veteran fucking leafs and fantasy strayaland. your amateurish attempt at this is just sad to look at.

Insecurity makes you fate. Its a survival mechanism. You arent sure you will have food tomorrow, so you eat as much as you can today.

While in the west starvation is not a danger, that was the main insecurity through history so any form of insecurity will trigger that mechanism.

The solution to make people less fat is UBI and national healthcare.

Well you can blame communism because it's very stupid to give everything over to the government.

>be poor
>work hard
>spend money just as fast as you get it on rent and food

>be rich
>have a hundred thousand a year passive income from your portfolio

This is how it actually works.

>what is singapore

yeah, large scale communisms a bad idea, but corruption is not exclusive to communism

All systems inevitably collapse, communism just does it faster.

>You will never turn a total tard into a successful businessman/investor.
You need starting capital to do either of those things.

A poor genius will stay poor

What? No, people who want to harm others will harm others. A gun will solve that issue right quick. Raiding and pillaging is not a profession, they're actions performed by individuals. For people who like violence, there's a plethora of options available in the form of competitive sports or cage fighting etc.

All of what you typed is just another justification for stealing from the productive. Look at the average Bernie Sanders rally. All omegas, fat women and old people. Where are the vikings? Socialists are weak, that's why they're socialists.

Shut up, you fucking rice nigger.

>free healthcare
you mean the doctah are not paid?
the medecine cost nothing to produce because those who make it/invented it/provided the ressources for it/etc, are in fact slaves?
Because if that s not the case I suppose there is a mechanism to extract the required money for all that, and that consequentially, it is NOT free.
also, quit using a proxy.

>be poor
>work intelligently
>get out of poverty

>be rich
>but a retard
>you'll lose all your money in due time

not to mention poor people get govbucks for free food and even more govbucks for free/cheap housing(not just hobo shelters)

It doesn't. Looking at the inflation rate alone should tell you this is bullshit. Having wealth costs money. Yes, if you have money and choose to live in poverty, you can stretch it out for a very long time across generations. But money constantly loses value and maintaining a house, a family and paying taxes all cost a lot of money.

ALL FUCKING DAY LONG TODAY

>Raiding and pillaging is not a profession
Yes it is, a profession is just what you do for a living. History if full of professional raiders and mercinaries. We have fewer today because society is stable and keeps them placated.

The vikings are not communists they are nat soc

>surveyed to prevent Monopoly
Free market creates competition you rice munching faggot.
>overconsumption of resources
What is supply and demand. Also increased consumption is what literally defines rich society. I knew that communists aim only to make everybody equally poor.

I can and do blame communism. The main goal of communism is to give the government as much power as it can get over everything possible.

The reason capitalist governments become corrupted is because socialist policies that give more power to the government get implemented. Which leads to more regulations, until it snowballs out of control. The USA is on that bath right now, and much of Europe is close to reaching critical mass.

Hey Capitalism is the reason why Russia fell to the Bolsheviks.

You use money to make money.
You invest it, start up new buisnessess, etc. Just sitting on money doesnt work, but its easy to make money if you have something to start with unless you are a brainlet.

There is no smart way to get out of poverty though, you bust your ass for decades to enjoy slightly higher quality of life, and are still never going to get rich unless you get a lot of breaks.

>be a retard
>lose your money
Yeah, after a life of living it up

Nice claim. Awaiting arguments.

Again, you're just justifying theft here. I don't really care how you try to change the story, you're still stealing from the productive to give to the unproductive.

But of course, since it's for the greater good it's okay in your mind.

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minimum wage and social welfare creates poverty. Capitalism makes job and better products for cheaper prices.
Income tax is theft

>The main goal of communism
Thats not communism goal, thats its method. It would only work if we had a computer running everything.

>socialist policies
giving power to the government has nothing to do with socialism, there can be highly authoritarian capitalistic societies as well, you are throwing words you hold as negative together to try and be more impactful.

Hoarding is Money Laundering. People does not have the right to hoard money like Hungry Hungry Hippos

>you're just justifying theft here
Taking from society with a comfy job that society provides for you, free from raiders and disease, and not paying back into it, is also theft.

You think one is theft and not the other because you are biased.

so·cial·ism
ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
noun: socialism

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

The "community" being the government.

Your move, Satan

So parents shouldn't be able to provide better lives for their children by leaving them wealth? I'm not saying you can end poverty in a single generation, but by working hard and providing a better environment for your kids, you can definitely improve the situation generation by generation.

That is of course if you don't live in a socialist shithole which steals your earnings.

Literal retard. People aren't owned by the state. They owe nothing to their fellow man

>if we had a computer running everything
Assuming whole world is automatize and centralized. And somehow you made it and nobody in the process exploited anything for personal gain. A lot to ask from people that aim to not work by working hard.

But even then it must optimize in order to create instead of only consuming. So you have autonomous AI with worthless baggage of people. I wonder what dystopian solutions will it come up with.

>Taking from society with a comfy job that society provides for you

How is that theft? Society didn't provide me with the means to start a business, I studied by myself for years in spite of all this mandatory school distraction bullshit and then gathered clients through hard work before I had enough capital to hire people.

It's all VOLUNTARY. I could have just gotten a cozy job at a government institution or become a teacher or some other government controlled non-job. Instead I decided to take risks and now I get the reward of those risks in the form of money.

Why should you get to benefit from my risk taking when you don't take risks?

why are people not allowed to accumilate wealth? In order to get money, they must have sold a product of service, which will of course bennefit the buyer. It's their money, they worked for it, you dont deserve a penny.
there is literally nothing wrong with being rich

>t. the born rich kid

Because? Prices will adjust regardless of amount of money in circulation. And people usually need money to spend them.
So their value usually is held inside property not in cash.

People win the lottery all the time and end up in poverty again real fast. Same with athletes.

Meanwhile smart people tend to do well regardless of origin.

If you hoard all the wealth, then how can other people get money? THink about it. Instead of hoarding it, why not pay people with it, give it away for free, or invest it?

Mixed market? You mean the Nordic model? The Nordic model of socialism is disastrous. Sure, you can bribe politicians in less socialist republics, but the consequences for bribing one in a socialist republic are far worse as they control a larger amount of people's lives.

>>People does not have the right to hoard money like Hungry Hungry Hippos

There is no incentive to work harder or try new things. Plus you assume i want genetic competitors to successfully propagate their shitty genes.

I'd actually "cannibalize" you given the opportunity. So thank whichever deity you pray to that laws & order protects people like you from people like me. Don't push your luck.

You`re right the people aren`t owned by the state. Individualism is a right, but helping the poor is an obligation. Don`t be an ASSHOLE, be a SAMARITAN.

People die.

Most games arent zero sum
The fact that communism is is one of the reasons it's a terrible idea.

I wish i could be blue pilled again.
Unfortunately, capitalism is #1 for all reasons.

What if i told you that poverty is necessary?

>The "community" being the government.
You're making an unjustified leap there.

>So parents shouldn't be able to provide better lives for their children by leaving them wealth
Didnt say that. I see no reason to tax inheritance. Everything else should be though. In the US during its golden era, post ww2, when we were booming, we had an income tax rate double what we currently do. Was that communism Sup Forums?

Thats why before we program such a machine with our value system, our value system has to change to prevent any kind of complications. Struggle is not a virtue, existence does not need to be justified. Whether you think its soon or thousands of years in the future we will be capable of utopia one day.

With out society you would probably not have survived into adult hood. With out society the building you run the buisness out of would never have been built, the materials do to it would still be in the ground. You would be trying to run your business out of a hut, with no infrastructure, and unless your business is growing turnips it probably wouldn't even be a business that is possible with out society.

You are entitled to the product of your labor, but labor alone is useless. The resources and environment you apply that labor into, thats societies. You cant build a house even with your own two hands, its not your trees.