Okay so I making this so we can clear up some confusion and division in Sup Forums concerning the Syrian airbase bombing.
On one side people are saying assad did not gas anyone and it's all a fake by the rebels assad has been fighting in a civil war and the neocons are supporting it cause ZOG conspiracy. they are concerned that trump is going against his promise not to fight assad.
This makes sense cause america loves destroying nations in the middle east for their resources.
On the other side of the isle people are saying that this airbase was mostly empty (5 dead) and that it was the airbase that launched gas attacks. There fore this was morally justified. Also this gets people off trumps case for being russian agent cause russia is on assads side.
But I think one thing we can all agree on is not to trust what the government and msm say.
It doesn't matter what happened. The point is that there is a fucking diplomatic dumpster fire in the Middle East because Nigbama didn't have the balls to clean the mess up because he cared more about his "legacy" than solving problems. Vain ass, effete nigger.
America is the world's policeman and it's time for police action.
Aiden Kelly
I'm of the opinion that Assad's troops did gas that town (though not under direct orders) because the Syrian army is incompetent and not very well organised, but that Trump has a good chance of being kike puppet and even if this was just a symbolic gesture (given how the Syrians and Russians were warned in advance, and all) it was still done to appease the Neocons and to affront his voters, which doesn't bode well for the future.
Brody Morris
>On the other side of the isle people are saying that this airbase was mostly empty (5 dead) and that it was the airbase that launched gas attacks. There fore this was morally justified. Also this gets people off trumps case for being russian agent cause russia is on assads side. Not a good enough reason to commit acts of war or kill people. You don't get to just militarily grandstand and push a country around without ANY evidence (unless you're the USA apparently).
The only good thing that might happen is congress trying to take some of it's power back from the presidency so Trump can't do this shit again.
Tyler Jackson
>But I think one thing we can all agree on is not to trust what the government and msm say.
Brilliant, we'll just trust nobodies on the internet with no ability whatsoever to substantiate any of the claims being made! That guy saw a picture on the internet? He's qualified to diagnose how those people died. Why the fuck not.
Austin Baker
Sup Forums is more relevant and trustworthy than any mainstream medias
Andrew Morgan
>America is the world's policeman and it's time for police action. >canadian why the fuck should americans give a shit what happens in the middle east? the shitpot in those countries has nothing to do with the united states, even if america hadn't been toppling regimes for the last decade it would still be a tinderbox of evil cunts exterminating each other.
ONE gas attack and suddenly there's all this pressure on the states to invade with its entire military, it's fucking retarded. worse shit happens every day all over the planet, just because israel is nearby doesn't mean the cuckolded states has to fly in to save them.
Carter Morgan
Yeah, the pizzagate thread and constant "SHILL" posting are proof enough of that.
Seriously though. People on this site don't even have the balls to match a name/face with their opinions. Trustworthy? You don't even know that I'm not Trump himself posting here for shits and giggles.
Brayden Cook
He ran on a campaign of finally stopping to police the world, yet he fucking does it again.
I think that alone is reason enough to be upset about the strike, even if you disregard everything else around it.
Owen Williams
>tfw everyone is a kike puppet >tfw only way out is to ensure every single official you elect is red pilled >tfw its impossible and we already lost
William Lee
Because oil and gas
Jonathan Torres
We've been doing whatever we want since like 1980
Julian Wood
sorry but Sup Forums is not to be take seriously for about 95% of issues. It's just constant shilling and shitposting.
Michael Foster
>incompetent
Huh loading a chemical shell is no different than any other. They were probably incompetent for either erroneously choosing chemical or a local commander choosing it on purpose.
Liam Perry
When are all the illegal immigrants being deported?
Cooper White
On this side looks like the Russian shills are getting rekted.
Alexander Fisher
Agreed, but I'm continually surprised how much even Russia tolerates it.
Aaron Walker
america was buying oil just fine off saddam, no problems. let the iron fisted dictators run the place, fucked up things happen and israel is under considerable thread but it's relatively stable. they've toppled half a dozen regimes and now the situation is less stable than before and resources are harder to control. it's not in american interests to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on unwinnable wars across the world for foreign interests.
Caleb Sanchez
Compared to 100% shilling and shitposting in the mainstream media.
Tyler Smith
>They were probably incompetent for either erroneously choosing chemical or a local commander choosing it on purpose. That's my point.
Jayden Scott
Soon pajeet, soon.
David Morgan
That's what he meant when he followed it with 'not well organized.' if the gas attack was ordered by a local commander it would still be on Assad and his generals for not minding the store.
Easton Anderson
>2013 UN investigations remain incunclusive but point toward terrorists used chemical agents
>Assad agrees to let NATO disarm all chemical stockpiles to avoid further war
>2017: Assad winning great victories against the terrorists. Aleppo, Homs, Palmyra liberated.
>America says removing Assad is no longer a priority
>OUT OF NO WHERE GAS
You have to be fucking clinically retarded to believe Assad would gas a literally who province and trigger NATO intervention
It's 10D chess like always. This was the intended goal:
1. If it wasn't a false flag he responded appropriately. All he did was bomb an airfield storing the chemical weapons - targeting aircraft and infrastructure while avoiding personnel - after warning the Russians. No Russian casualties = No WWIII. Currently conflicting reports on SAA casualties - Pentagon says none, SAA says yes one dead. Doesn't matter. By targeting the air base and not Assad's headquarters (like Libya) he demonstrated this had NOTHING to do with regime change. Just sending a message.
2. He just put Assad in check while sedating Neo-Cons like McCain, liberals who want Assad gone, and Israel (who are the people who would have supported the false flag). He's winning over support from people stonewalling him with a glorified firework show.
3. He's being tough on China and North Korea. He was meeting with the leader of China today. By pulling the trigger unannounced like this he's showing he's not fucking around with North Korea. No doubt a message to Iran as well.
4. Even if Syrian forces are grounded they still have Russian air support. Essentially nothing has changed strategically speaking.
5. The momentary salt of some of his supporters will fade as the hysteria dies down when it's seen as it is - truly nothing of significance. He gets to keep them too.
6. Another nail in the coffin for the Russian collusion narrative
Whether it was a false flag or not is IRRELEVANT. Syrian is a done and finished conflict for the most part with Assad assured victory. This minor setback won't change ANYTHING and of course if Trump continues he'll out him self as a ZOG puppet. But that would be fucking retarded of him.
Sebastian Long
>chemical weapons being used against innocent people not a good enough justification nice
while this most likely has some deep state hidden agenda.. you're retarded.
Cooper Hall
Unknown, possibly some commander stupidly decided he would make some DIY chemical weapons probably due to running low on conventional bombs.
If it really happened and there's plenty of evidence there's probably little choice besides punishing them. Obama arming the rebels also causes another huge issue, if the US turns around and lets them get completely defeated they will likely try and get revenge on the US for telling them to fight and then leaving them to die.
Reminds me of MGS3, Volgin unexpectedly firing the nuke made it impossible for things to be resolved without betraying the boss because neither country could publicly back down.
What happens next is more important.
Joshua Cruz
I agree, but the media convinced 98% of the people that it was Assad. Trump is just acting accordingly in a minimally invasive way.
Oliver Ward
If it really happened, this course of action is far better for Assad than an investigation. An investigation that pinned this on Syria would almost certainly lead to no other option but war. Now it's just like a stern "IF THIS HAPPENS AGAIN...!"
Henry Myers
Its less about the gas and more about sending a message. Its either Russia and China fix their shit with Syria and North Korea or it's on. Those countries threatens us allies and the caos it sparks have ramifications like the migrant crisis. The gas attack just gave america a good causus bellis.
Dominic Kelly
>Those countries threatens us allies and the caos it sparks have ramifications like the migrant crisis the migrant crisis was directly caused by the invasion of afghanistan, the toppling of iraq, syria and libya, and the destablisation of north africa. intervention CAUSED the migrant crisis. the gas attack is just another excuse to continue a long string of hopeless and absurdly expensive wars that you can not win, that provide no real world benefit to the average american and are actively aiding the destruction of the western world.
the american people are not and will never be behind a full fledged war of annihiliation in the middle-east, so they'll continue to half-ass decades long conflicts that benefit israel, make a small % of their population extraordinarily rich, bankrupt their country, and ruin the lives of hundreds of millions of people across the world. all for nothing.
Carter Garcia
Yeah, but what is done is done. Trump cant change what already happened. The point is Trump saying he doesnt want to interveing but HE WILL when necessary. It's not just about Syria and middle east.
Eli Jenkins
For those interested in seeing Trump's target, Syrian Air Base Shayrat, on Google Earth:
34°29'6.44"N 36°55'22.66"E
Eli Morris
>muh chemical weapons
Just how much will it take for you to open your eyes, Jim? This shit happens over and over again, without any kind of subtlety.
Ethan Cox
It's fucking irrelevant whether or not he used gas. Taking down Assad is on the kike agenda and will result in MORE refugees.
Fuck the USA
Mason Reyes
>The point is Trump saying he doesnt want to interveing but HE WILL when necessary like every other president acting at the back and call of israel and the military industrial complex. AIPAC spent billions of dollars for a decade lobbying to get america to start toppling middle eastern dictators, G W Bush was against it until 9/11.
whether these recent gas attacks are legit, false flags or conspiracies of israel/treasonous americans it doesn't matter, in the end the US will be dragged into yet more wars that will destroy them in the long term.
Christopher Thomas
>Syria, with help of Russia, plan and conduct an attack on building(s) believed to contain rebel-held chemical weapons >An ISIS-linked "Rescue group" claims there is a "gas attack", delivered from the air, with ~300 victims >Of the ~300 supposed victims, ~80 supposedly die (from said gas attack) >Turkey supports narrative, after secretive autopsies of supposed victims, who arrived in Turkey alive >Turkey claims autopsies reveal evidence "of chemical weapon use by government forces" without elaboration >Later claims said chemical was Sarin
So which is more likely? >Assad, after years of not using chemical weapons, decides to use chemical weapons against civilians- not when in dire straits, but when he is winning major victories against the rebels >The Syrian Air force dropped conventional bombs on and near a rebel-held chemical weapons storehouse, which was intentionally kept in close proximity to civilians for maximum collateral damage
