Capitalism

Does Capitalism work?

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Yes it does, you Canadian faggot.

Without regulations or taxes? No, it does not.

flawlessly, thats why every other system eventually has to become capitalist russia, china, hell event best korea is becoming capitalistic

it does if you have the money

this is bait, but if you are trying to create a discussion try and differentiate consumerism from capitalism. they don't have to be one in the same.

Yes.

But we don't currently live in capitalism.

We live under central bank fascism.

McDonalds would like to have a talk with you.

Fuck off with this daily thread same shit every time

Capitalism created the most powerful nation in the world. it's true that the rest of the world hates us, but we're still top dogs.

>China

>NZ
>free
kek, what a jest

Whats a working system for you?

They liberalized their economy in the 90s I believe which created a massive amount of economic growth and high living standards for their people

All empires fall. The apex of the pyramid evolves into an obelisk, which is less sturdy and eventually falls.

Pic related, America circa the year 2308.

There is a reason the universe loves this shape so much. It is better than the pyramid.

Depends on how much you like your computer.

It works for some individuals, but a global market for very obvious reasons is absolutely devastating to the existence of a nation. That's the crucial point--sure, Communism is retarded as an economic model, but look at Poland now. It might be an economic shithole, but they're still 99% Polish. Meanwhile, the "free" Western Europeans are being bred out of their own countries. Half of all German births are to non-Germans. The most popular baby name in Britain is Muhammed.

So, to answer the question, it works as a pure economic system, but nations are not just economies, so anyone who wants a 'free' market now, having seen its effects, can blow it out their ass. National Socialism is the solution.

You're implying a computer is a neccesity or a need. Man's insatiable want has created computers. Wants vrs needs.

>It might be an economic shithole, but they're still 99% Polish.
Eh. That may be, but they're the most free market compared to the rest of the post soviet states. That's why they're doing better than the other post soviet states.

also free markets don't destroy nation states, jews do

Why do people defend capitalism as if it is a religious dogma?

Why do people defend socialism/marxism as if it's a religious dogma?

Sou d's like manifest destiny. Our government has nurtured the conditions for capitalism. Regulated and subsidized goods and industries, to create a strong economy in the US. Those countries may be using those systems out if necessity to interact with our economy. Capitolism is wool over the eyes for the intricate manipulation of goods and currency that is done by the government. Think about how much you pay for clean safe water. Think about how much you would pay. Capitolism is an illusion.

That's besides the point, the topic of the thread is capitalism.

Well stealing infinite amounts of resources and land from an indigenous people created the most powerful nation in the world.

Consumerism is inherently bad, capitalism isn't.

Yes it does.
Bless capitalism.
Fuck Assad and Putin.

Capitolism creates waste. If markets FALL if goods become scarce, factories sit and disintegrate. Products go unfinished and unshipped. Land fills are stuffed with processed materials. All because supply and demand are wildly variable.

Capitalism works. That's why people defend it.

>If markets FALL if goods become scarce, factories sit and disintegrate.
>ignoring the fact central bank manipulation causes these problems

It worked great up until the industrial revolution where jobs started becoming less satisfying and control went from being more widespread into the hands of fewer and fewer people due to the advantages technology gave them. Capitalism is the best system possible, but corporatism is fucking horrible.

Morals are a prerequisite for capitalism. Presently, no it does not.

>free markets don't destroy nation states
How? Profit is prioritized over everything else. That means if CEO Fuckwad can make 35% more by importing a million Pacos, he'll do it. And then, even if his competitors don't want to do it, they are now forced to so they can compete. One bad apple spoils the whole bunch.

Freedom works. Capitalist democracy is one way for free people to cooperate, but it doesn't in itself guarantee freedom.

The myth: Capitalism = free markets.
The truth: capitalism is where capital/means of production/whatever you want to call factories and tools are both owned AND controlled by private individuals. In China capital is owned privately but controlled by the state through a shadow government and draconian regulation. In the USSR capital was owned by the state but controlled privately. Free markets are a consideration because capitalism by definition requires a free market, but although capitalism requires free markets, free markets do not require capitalism. Market socialism, or Strasserism, or a billion other ideas, are all ideologies that change the industrial relations inside firms and not the rivalrous relations between firms. Next time you think that the invisible hand of the market will fix it just remember that the invisible hand of the market works on all firms regardless of who owns and operates them so long as a market exists.

The myth: Capitalism was responsible for the rapid development of Asia
The truth: Post World War Two the USA was 50% of all economic activity in the entire fucking world. South Korea and Japan exploded because they out of all of Asia were able to secure special trade deals with the US as part of their post-war recovery packages. Like the Germans, the Asian economic boom was propped up by massive foreign investment that no other countries had access to. Did you know that North Korea developed at the same pace as South Korea until the late 1970s? ANY country that is given a blank cheque by foreigners can prosper.

The myth: we live in a capitalist world
The truth: we live in a mercantile world today the same way we did in 1717. Free trade was exported by the British because it opened up export markets for their finished goods and import markets for raw materials. We live in the same system today. Where free trade doesn't profit us - we cull it. If free trade is a requirement for capitalism, and we don't have it, how do we have capitalism?

>Profit is prioritized over everything else.
Not over everything else.
I don't know why you people think this.

You can have free markets and severely limit immigration.

See Japan.

>he'll do it.
Not if the law doesn't allow it?

We don't have capitalism at all.

Capitalism is just a marxist buzzword that has lost all meaning.

People that use it in arguments get fucking nowhere.

>You can have free markets and severely limit immigration.
And then the elites seize control of your political process with their bottomless pockets and change the laws to benefit them in their endless pursuit for profits.

See how it works?

Capitalism is fundamentally incompatible with human nature.

>Capitalism is just a marxist buzzword

>not if the law doesn't allow it
Then that's not capitalism. Actually much closer to NatSoc.

And also, Japan is unique because they don't limit immigration per se, it's just that their culture is so insular that almost nobody wants to go there. But even that's changing--they are seriously thinking about making it easier to let subhumans in as their population ages.

Yes it does. It is the only system that accounts for human greed instead of trying to work against it.

This is true.

>And then the elites seize control of your political process
Just have them killed.

>Capitalism is fundamentally incompatible with human nature.
Capitalism is the fullest expression of human nature. By limiting capitalism you are limiting what humans want to do naturally.

Neccessity is the mother of all invention, greed can produce an invention but only as a side effect.

No

Didn't marx come up with the term?

I thought Adam Smith didn't use the word.

>nonsensical marxist inforgraphic filled with buzzwords
holy shit there's so much wrong with this facebook image

>increased productivity means higher unemployment
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

We need for nothing. We have access to food, water, healthcare, entertainment, a reasonable level of public safety. Some have more access to it than others, but in every civilized nation almost every person is capable of living a long life.

We are not in an age of need, we are in an age of want, and capitalism satiates these wants effectively enough for now.

Admit you just butt hurt that I exposed the faults of your system in a single infograph :^)

holy fuck I have to post again
I literally can not stop laughing at this image

>under capitalism the working day is stretched to increase the surplus labour
AHAHAHAHAHHAA
Capitalism reduces working hours. Pic related.

also
>under socialism work is a universal duty
WELCOME TO SLAVERY, BOYS

Not for parasites.

>being this gullible and stupid to fall for marxist buzzwords that make no sense
lmao I can't believe how dumb you people are
there's something genetically wrong with you people

>Just have them killed.
If they're the elites it's already too late.

If you're killing them before they're the elites, are you just going to execute anyone who has too much money and might become an elite? Sounds pretty communist to me...

>Capitalism is the fullest expression of human nature.
I can see it's too late for you, you're already high on pure ideology.

Capitalism is a system like any other, invented in the late 18th century and then exported in the early 19th century by the British because it was in their national interest. As soon as capitalism stops working out for us it'll be dropped just like all the other systems, and you'll have a new ideology to label as the "fullest expression of human nature" like the blind ideologue that you are.

Humans existed for literal millennia without capitalism. The zenith of Western power occurred pre-capitalism.

Nigga, capital has been used to refer to productive enterprise since the 1600s.

Clearly there are people in need on earth, capitalism is for profit, not sharing. Morally capitalism is detestable and selfish.

>Under both socialism and Communism, the means of production are controlled by the workers/citizens
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Under Communism, the working day is freely determined by the workers
HAHAHA holy shit... OH god I'm fucking choking!

>Under socialism, workers partake of the whole output
Fuck... can't... breathe...

>Under Communism, workers have access to the complete, free, and immediate access to the abundance of socialized production.
**dead**

>Capitalism reduces working hours
But in all of those countries working hours only reduced following legislation, not out of any organic economic development.

Furthermore, """capitalism""" INCREASED working hours (it's more complicated than just evil factory owner twirls moustache and makes peasants toil, but the capitalists were the ones who fought to maintain industrial labour in its scientific management form against liberal legislative reform - they were also the ones who reformed scientific labour too into human resources management, which was fundamentally progressive, but not until the 1930s) when it brought people away from seasonal agricultural labour and into factories. The decrease in standards of living over the course of the industrial revolution is why Luddite rebellions occurred.

But you probably know that, which is why your chart starts in 1870 and not 1770 you lying fuck.

>it's already too late.
No it's not.
There's going a massive revolution in the west soon.
Also it's not just large corporations that fight for more immigration, it's marxist/SJW people that fight for it too.
I can guarantee you if these people didn't exist the border will be secured and immigration limited.
Just look at Japan or South Korea.

>pure ideology.
LMAO Zizek is the biggest pseudointellectual of our time. Here I am thinking you're a natsoc, but you're just a dirty commie.

>invented in the late 18th century
There have been periods of capitalism long before this time.

>As soon as capitalism stops working out for us
Why would increases in living standards "stop working out for you"?

>to label as the "fullest expression of human nature" like the blind ideologue that you are.
It's absolutely hilarious you people deny human nature. You deny the scientific fact of human instincts.

>Nigga, capital has been used to refer to productive enterprise since the 1600s.
Marx perverted the term then I guess.

>>>reddit

No, but white homogenous societies do

Literally and figuratively.

NEXT

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>Does Capitalism work?

It's the most effecient way of allocating resources currently known to man. It obviously works.

Taxes = State Capitalism = Socialism = Kill yourself

>But in all of those countries working hours only reduced following legislation
WRONG

Dead wrong actually.
These working hours were decreasing year by year long before government got involved. All government did was re-enforce what was already happening.

Lets say government tried to implement a 40 hour workweek in 1850s. It would cause countless people to starve because they couldn't get enough money to survive.

>Furthermore, """capitalism""" INCREASED working hours
I literally showed you empirical evidence that capitalism reduced working hours in countless western nations. You have no proof, I do.

>The decrease in standards of living over the course of the industrial revolution is why Luddite rebellions occurred.
Are you legitimately retarded?
Living standards increased all throughout the gilded age. Wages rose while prices fell year after year.

The majority of people who live within the capitalist systems have everything they need to survive. When looking at homeless populations in these nations you will see that in many cases their problems are self inflicted. Capitalism isn't there to help the stupid. The remaining, who do not have access to basic means of survival through no fault of their own are outliers. In any system of hundreds of millions there will always be outliers. Everyone else has access to what they need, basic food, shelter, and medical care. Anything more than this is a luxury.

And I agree with you, capitalism is a selfish system, and humans are a selfish species, so it is the only system that will work. Look at what happens to other systems, when the selfish inevitably take over anyway. They are left with unchecked power because the system wasn't built with the selfish in mind. Unless human greed can be eliminated, the only reasonable system is one that accounts for it.

My grandparents and great grandparents fled the horrors of communist Russia. I'm not even going to get into a discussion about this, suffice to say that this communist utopia you dream of where the workers have all the power and reap all the benefits of their own labor is false. It has never ever happened in the history of communism and socialism. It never will.

Daily reminder the first country to eliminate their central bank and allow free market banking will have the highest living standards on earth within 5 years.

Massive high paying service sector jobs with dominate this country's economy to consume the goods the rest of the world has to produce for it.

The workweek would shrink to 2-3 days a week and people would retire much earlier. This will also lead to more jobs becoming available.

Everyone would have high saving rates. Houses would be inexpensive. Debt would be strongly discouraged economically.

Massive automation would take place as the cost of capital goods would be extremely cheap. This will lead to massive levels of technological innovation.

It would be extremely easy for the average person to start a business due to the cheap cost of capital goods.

Daily reminder REAL capitalism has prices falling all the time instead is going up.

Daily reminder America never had a system of free market banking. There were only patches of American history with free market banking. The panics that happened during the 1800s were due to government intervention in the banking sector. Sweden had the longest most successful period of free banking and that's what made them really rich.

Daily reminder the longest period of (relatively)free banking in America coincided with the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION where wages rose and prices fell.

Daily reminder central banks are the very reason the economy is a pile of shit and our generation is so fucked.

>There's going a massive revolution in the west soon.
Yeah, that'll be good for living standards and stability. You know why they call them revolutions user? Because they keep coming back around.

>Also it's not just large corporations that fight for more immigration, it's marxist/SJW people that fight for it too.
And only one of those groups actually has any political power.

>Zizek is the biggest pseudointellectual of our time.
Actually I think you've got him beat.

>Why would increases in living standards "stop working out for you"?
Because capitalism only increases living standards where it's profitable. If automated work made scientific management more efficient than human resources management then we'd all be back to sixteen hour shifts on the assembly line because management no longer needs to care if you're motivated. We have been very lucky that the "humane" method of management is also the profitable one. If technology changes, and that changes, the capitalists will be the first to put their boot on your throat.

If you don't know what the scientific management model is, look it up.

>It's absolutely hilarious you people deny human nature. You deny the scientific fact of human instincts.
Capitalism doesn't even fucking exist, though. We don't live in capitalism. We still live in mercantilism. Capitalism is only working out for you because big daddy government is there ensuring that you never get fucked over hard enough to really put the squeeze on you and make you pick up a gun. It's why people who actually have full time jobs at Wal-Mart still get welfare because that's how fucking low their paycheck is.

>Marx perverted the term then I guess.
Yeah, ooga booga Marx did everything.

yes.

how did you make this post? did you use Morse code?

>mfw the whole of western civilisation and the history of human kind has always had capitalism and has brought us to a point where we can find knowledge on everything the human mind can imagine at the click of a button. but it is criticised by fucking comunists

I feel as if this fucking leaf was trying to make a point, entirely oblivious to how convoluted its message is.

State capitalist, and also not the most powerful nation earth. Could be a contender someday, when they can produce more than gun-shaped grenades.

It does, but it isn't without its issues (just like anything though I suppose). None of that really matters anyway because we don't have capitalism we have (((capitalism))). If you can't tell the difference between the two you shouldn't be here.

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FUCKING

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seeing as you're posting on the internet in a temperature controlled residence with plenty of food and plenty of clothes and access to healthcare years after it was socialized, i'm gonna go out on a limb and say "yes"

>Yeah, that'll be good for living standards and stability. You know why they call them revolutions user? Because they keep coming back around.
>implying revolutions haven't dramatically changed the course of nations

>And only one of those groups actually has any political power.
Yes, the SJW masses. Because they VOTE for pro immigration parties.

>Actually I think you've got him beat.
>HURRRRR NEUROSCIENCE AND HUMAN INSTINCTS DON'T REAL, PLEASE LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE OF MY FAT BEARD
Yeah, zizek is perfect for autistic science denying children like yourself.

>Because capitalism only increases living standards where it's profitable.
Yes and it's always profitable.

>If automated work made scientific management more efficient than human resources management then we'd all be back to sixteen hour shifts on the assembly line because management no longer needs to care if you're motivated.
Define "scientific management".

>We have been very lucky that the "humane" method of management is also the profitable one
I don't know what the hell you're even talking about. The reason we have such low working hours compared to 100+ years ago is because the economy is so productive thus prices are so low thus people decide to go for jobs that provide less hours.

>We don't live in capitalism. We still live in mercantilism.
I do agree with this actually. That's why I want to remove mercantilism and embrace capitalism.

>Capitalism is only working out for you because big daddy government is there ensuring that you never get fucked over hard enough to really put the squeeze on you and make you pick up a gun. It's why people who actually have full time jobs at Wal-Mart still get welfare because that's how fucking low their paycheck is.
If the government stopped reducing living standards by inflating the money supply and distorting the economy, living standards would increase all the time and these walmart losers will have higher living standards.

>These working hours were decreasing year by year long before government got involved.
On AVERAGE. Not universally. There are still industries today that exist mostly unchanged in the nature of the work from the 1830s factory floor where if owners could make employees work 60 hours a week, they would, because there is no efficiency gain from working less when all you're doing is sorting the non-recyclables from the recyclables on the garbage conveyor belt at the incinerator.

>Lets say government tried to implement a 40 hour workweek in 1850s. It would cause countless people to starve because they couldn't get enough money to survive.
Wow, it's almost as if """capitalism""" (again it was actually industrialisation, but the capitalists were reactionary when it came time to legislate to fix these problems) created its own inescapable hell in the early 1800s. Industrial farming destroyed rural agricultural employment forcing people into the cities for work where, thanks to artificial lighting and the year-round nature of machine work, the only thing that limited productivity was people's need to sleep and eat.

>My grandparents and great grandparents fled the horrors of communist Russia
Mine fled the horrors of capitalist Ireland.

your question is gibberish, what do you mean by "work"?

It does, but people have to be free, too.
Government needs to fear people, to reduce cronyism.

Kachow!

>the SJW masses.
SJW masses confirmed for more powerful than the deep state and shadow globalists?

>they VOTE for pro immigration parties.
Who literally never get elected. It's always the social democratic party with the mainstream policies speaking vague platitudes that nobody really agrees with, and who secretly import a billion shitskins through the back door as legal workers while everyone's shitting themselves about refugees. Like you.

>Yes and it's always profitable.
Then why did living standards collapse at the start of the industrial revolution?

>Define "scientific management".
lel, no
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_management

>The reason we have such low working hours compared to 100+ years ago is because the economy is so productive thus prices are so low thus people decide to go for jobs that provide less hours.
Nah, it's because
1. the kinds of work we do now we do better when we work 40 hour weeks (or even less!)
2. the kinds of work where working less doesn't improve our efficiency can't make us work longer because of legislation
Prices of consumer goods have nothing to do with it. People will - and have in the past - worked in terrible conditions even relatively for starvation wages. In the labour market the buying power of suppliers is virtually zero, unless workers are unionised.

>That's why I want to remove mercantilism and embrace capitalism
Enjoy working for Lao Zhe.

>If the government stopped reducing living standards by inflating the money supply and distorting the economy, living standards would increase all the time and these walmart losers will have higher living standards.
Government doesn't inflate the money supply, the Reserve Bank does. It's run independently (by the "elites" you think are your saviours).

>On AVERAGE. Not universally.
Okay? It's a fact for the vast majority of people working hours decreased dramatically. The people who still decided to work 16 hours a day did it because they wanted a lot of money. They could have still worked a normal workday and still had okay living standards.

>There are still industries today that exist mostly unchanged in the nature of the work from the 1830s factory floor where if owners could make employees work 60 hours a week
So? The market forces them to pay higher wages than they did back then.

>created its own inescapable hell in the early 1800s
AHAHAHAH
Jesus fucking christ, you historical revisionist fuck.
Living standards for the vast majority of people for the vast majority of human history was fucking garbage. People worked long hours for very little pay. People had to work their entire lives just to survive. It was industry that came along to free people from this hell.
People came from all over the world to work in these factories.

>Industrial farming destroyed rural agricultural employment forcing people into the cities for work where
Good. It raised living standards for the rest of society. Food was now cheaper than it had EVER been in human history.

>thanks to artificial lighting and the year-round nature of machine work
Yet people still voluntarily decided to work there. Hmm really makes you think.

>Mine fled the horrors of capitalist Ireland.
>the potato famine was evil capitalism
this myth again
mises.org/library/what-caused-irish-potato-famine

>SJW masses confirmed for more powerful than the deep state and shadow globalists?
Actually yeah. If they didn't exist people wouldn't accept mass immigration. People didn't accept it BEFORE and we had capitalism BEFORE. What the fuck happened?

>Who literally never get elected.
Obama never got elected?

>Then why did living standards collapse at the start of the industrial revolution?
Source? The industrial revolution dramatically raised living standards for the working class. The gilded age was the greatest increase in living standards for the working class in human history.

>the kinds of work we do now we do better when we work 40 hour weeks
>Prices of consumer goods have nothing to do with it.
It has everything to do with it.
>People will - and have in the past - worked in terrible conditions
LMAO
If you can get the resources you need to live a comfortable live you will find jobs that have fewer working hours because you don't need to work all of those hours to survive. Companies that don't provide shorter working hours will either do so or raise their wages to entice workers to work for them. This is literally what happened in my graph.

>Enjoy working for Lao Zhe.
Nah I'd rather live in a mostly free market country like Switzerland and have the highest local purchasing power in the world just so I can laugh at you poverty loving leftists.

>Government doesn't inflate the money supply, the Reserve Bank does.
Which is a government regulation/law.

>(by the "elites" you think are your saviours).
I think these "elites" should be burned alive, while leftists tend to love them for some reason.

>It's a fact for the vast majority of people working hours decreased dramatically.
Yes, because like I keep saying, we have been very very fucking lucky that the kind of work we do is aligned with cushy working conditions.

If that ever isn't the case the increase in living standards is going to fucking disappear.

>So? The market forces them to pay higher wages than they did back then.
Nah, they're minimum wage jobs. That's not the market at work, that's the government "humanising" capitalism.

>Jesus fucking christ, you historical revisionist fuck.
Confirmed for knows nothing about the industrial revolution.

The industrial revolution caused a complete collapse in society and destroyed the way of life and the material conditions of entire countries. You are regurgitating bullshit memes that you learned on r/edgy_rightwing_contrarian because you're a mental infant. Peasant farmers were forced off their land at gunpoint because new machinery made them obsolete and sent into factories where they worked six or even seven days a week for fourteen hours every single day of the year, where people were maimed regularly. Did you know rural peasants got as much as HALF THE FUCKING YEAR off? Sure, being a peasant was no picnic, but please stop with the tired fucking myths - or call them what they are: LIES.

Your entire post reeks of pure ignorance. I have a degree in HRM and I studied all of this in depth for my coursework. Yes, obviously industrialisation was a net benefit, but in the process it shattered an entire society and the lives of millions.

Your argument is that working conditions will never fall because technology always makes things better and that's fucking wrong, and the only reason you don't realise that is because you refuse to look at fucking history where there is a very clear example of peasant farmers going from an admittedly hard life into living fucking hell.

Ever read Charles Dickens?

>If they didn't exist people wouldn't accept mass immigration
Have you ever considered that they fact that they exist is proof that people DO accept mass immigration? Are they not people? Are they fucking flesh robots? Or are they, perhaps, funded by the elites in whose interests mass immigration is?

>Source?
econlib.org/library/Enc/IndustrialRevolutionandtheStandardofLiving.html
This is a good overview of both sides of the debate. Here's a quote because I know you won't bother reading the whole thing:
>For example, did the working class become worse off during the early years of England’s industrialization (1760–1830), when Crafts’s estimates show real income per person growing at only about 0.3 percent annually? Growth at such a slow rate made deterioration in the lot of the working classes possible. A simple numerical illustration will show why. If we take 0.3 percent per year as the annual rate of growth of real income, average real income in 1830 would have been about 16 percent higher than in 1760. The share of total income going to the lowest 65 percent of the income distribution need only have fallen to 86 percent of its 1790 level to negate the benefit of rising average income. Most economic historians agree that the distribution of income became more unequal between 1790 and 1840. Moreover, if we add the effects of unemployment, poor harvests, war, pollution, urban crowding, and other social ills, the modest rise in average income could well have been accompanied by a fall in the standard of living of the working classes.

>If you can get the resources you need to live a comfortable live you will find jobs that have fewer working hours because you don't need to work all of those hours to survive
It doesn't matter how productive you actually are - what matters is how much your boss is willing to pay you. If your pay has no bearing on your efficiency, where's his incentive to pay you more?

>we have been very very fucking lucky
>it was magic luck that caused this, not massive increases in efficiency and production that allowed consumers to have more goods for less hours worked
wow this is a terrible argument

>Nah, they're minimum wage jobs.
The minimum wage should be abolished lmao.
Also minimum wage jobs are like 5% of the economy.

>that's the government "humanising" capitalism.
The government needs to get out of the way. If central banks and all this government control didn't exist, prices would be much lower and wages higher. There would be no minimum wage jobs.

>Confirmed for knows nothing about the industrial revolution.
Kek you're actually retarded enough to say living standards were great for the vast majority of human history and then capitalism came along and now we're all suffering. How dumb are you?

>The industrial revolution caused a complete collapse in society and destroyed the way of life and the material conditions of entire countries.
Good. Fuck feudalism.

>Peasant farmers were forced off their land at gunpoint
Kek. More things the government you love so much did.
In america this didn't happen. Market forces made them sell their land. There was so much food that it's wasn't economically viable to work on a farm anymore.
These manufacturing jobs actually provided a higher living standard than slaving away on a farm. People came from all over the world to work in these factories.

>sent into factories where they worked six or even seven days a week for fourteen hours every single day of the year, where people were maimed regularly
Oh no, it's not like there were massive deaths on farms all the time too. You only know about the industrial accidents because they were the most documented.

>Did you know rural peasants got as much as HALF THE FUCKING YEAR off?
This is bullshit. They just stopped farming during these periods and had other work to do. The ones that owned animals had to take care of their animals.