why, after almost 16 years, do we still not have footage of the jumpers raining on the street? where is it? why would they keep it secret? it must exist, no? but this is the closest i've ever been able to find:
>why, after almost 16 years, do we still not have footage of the jumpers raining on the street? Because they didn't land in the street they landed on the surrounding buildings that were later destroyed when the towers collapsed.
> where is it? Clearly you never watched any of the documentaries made about the attacks. They showed people leaping out of the buildings and even the sounds from in the buildings when people hit.
Kayden Phillips
holy shit are they ok?
Caleb Cox
They died of eternal bleeding.
Caleb Thomas
but where's the footage from ground zero? we have evidence of news stations in addition to amateaur photographers who were present at the base...200+ people fell from the WTC..they didn't all land on surrounding buildings
sorry french bro, but people falling/hanging out of the buildings are one thing..and the impact is another..why do we still have virtually nothing?
Logan Moore
1st of all, the firefighters had the perimeter closed off, and I doubt any of them would have had a video camera, as they were very expensive and clunky at the time.
2nd, do you realize how densely packed Manhattan is with buildings?
3rd, there are videos of jumpers hitting stuff on the way down and splatting "like a ripe tomato" as some have put it.
Mason Ramirez
1) firefighers were clearly not so in control as you imply given that amateur photojournalists were able to complex up until collapse..and even so, there are examples of newscasters being present literally across the fucking street:
2) yes, manhattan has lots of buildings...and people..with cameras
3) apart from what i posted in the original post, is there any other video of that?
Carson Watson
Funny.
No, it was suicide.
There are only four legal ways to die:
>suicide >homicide >accidental >natural
They were suicides, at least according to the life insurance companies when people tried to collect.
Most life insurance those days required you to have the policy for at least two years before they'd cover suicide.
Carson Gray
wrong. >‘Jumping indicates a choice, and these people did not have that choice,’ she said. ‘That is why the deaths were ruled homicide, because the actions of other people caused them to die. The force of explosion and the fire behind them forced them out of the windows.’
Aaron Mitchell
There is a documentary that has a clip of the NYFD chief rallying his men in a first floor atrium between the towers. Every few seconds there was a loud crash overhead. Bodies were hitting atrium roof so hard the metal deck welded to bar joists was rattling.
Thomas Brooks
yeah those were actually holograms, no one died on 9/11 duh
Liam Morris
source that sounds interesting
Isaac Hernandez
i've always wondered why the roof-landers stayed in-tact and the others exploded into a bloody splat of khaki pants and polo shirts
Dylan Hill
too soon
Carter Morris
because it was 2001 dude smartphones didn't exist there was no youtube, twitter, instagram or facebook
Wyatt Scott
>smartphones didn't exist >there was no youtube, twitter, instagram or facebook
Fuck, why can't we go back?
Jonathan Roberts
even a metal roof will be a little bit bouncy concrete street not so much
Jack Torres
Prove 9/11 wasn't an elaborate, staged CGI production using hundreds of extras.
Sandy Hook was fake. 9/11 was fake too.
Aiden Barnes
i wish too user i'm happy i did my growing up before all the stupid shit i did would be posted online for the world to see
Hunter Nelson
this
I have the Naudet footage on my laptop and it's horrifying
Kayden Rogers
Because it's all a hoax. >Jet fuel can't melt steel memes.
Really cannot recommend the full documentary enough. It's incredible that a routine film project turned into capturing such horrific events. They film the first plane impact, the initial response, the second plane impact, and the collapse of the South Tower from the North Tower's lobby. You may be able to find the full thing on YouTube.
Caleb King
this doesn't account for the fact it was the single most photographed moment in history, including at least hundreds of people with cameras at the site itself in the period of time between the crash and the collapse...the fact that "instagram" didn't exist in 2001 isn't exactly a strong argument against the idea that footage has been suppressed
Isaiah Ward
Because the ones who have it never released it. Pretty sure the camera crew that filmed the footage with the elevator music in the plaza and the guy trying to parachute down filmed very gruesome shit, but they never released their full uncut footage.
Kayden Mitchell
>I doubt any of them would have had a video camera, as they were very expensive and clunky at the time. Found the 14-year-old. Plenty of camcorders were single-hand sized in the late 90s and early 00s. Some that were barely larger than your hand, such as pic related.
MSN Messenger, MSN profiles, AIM, ICQ.
Henry Turner
Because jumpers just land on the ground at terminal velocity which is 200 km/h (125mph) or 55 m/s (182 feet/s) for human jumpers in air.
An explosion is in the range of 2000 to 3000 m/s which is more than two orders of magnitude higher than falling down a building.
Angel King
There's the one video from helicopter that shows people landing on the awning on the concert stage in the plaza. It's not zoomed in so all you see is black dots and then red splotches.
Otherwise, people (Other than Emergency Response personnel) weren't getting that close to the base of the towers and if they did they most likely died when they collapsed so any footage/images were lost.
Whoever made this is a sick fuck. A lot of white Americans died that day.
Nathaniel Butler
I remember this doc. The bangs jumpers were making were far louder than you'd think..
Cooper Peterson
yeah hundreds of people in an area the size of the wtc most of them running away most of them not with their cameras instantly ready most of them not quick enough to capture something that takes a second some of them looking the wrong way some of them not thinking quickly enough to capture anything some of them taking shaky useless pictures
the rest is what we have jesus dude apply some thinking
nothing new since 2006 when youtube was invetented and moussaoui was put in trial
Josiah Rogers
I've also heard people trying to get close and film were told to fuck off by Police and Firefighters. Rightfully so if you ask me. You don't need to capture someone's death like that. It's not some spectacle.
Zachary Foster
mandela effect..its not a helicopter video, it's a home video shot from a couple across the plaza at a hotel facing the towers
Gabriel Hill
9/11 >2,996 people killed
Iraq >268,000 killed
Afghanistan >149,000 killed
1:139 kdr
Jonathan Parker
Would 2001 CGI even be good enough to fool people?
I can tell you what kind of traps you fell for so you can avoid it the next time you see a video like this and recognize it for being a tear jerker and not make it impact you so much.
1) You see the man actively fighting for his life
For normal persons this evokes an emotional reaction the same way you can feel someone being kicked in the groin.
Other videos also depicted people fighting, but ultimately failing to fight, for their lives. They were only cut short. So to avoid tearing up at these kind of videos just imagine this time you are seing them uncut.
2) The commentary
You are watching this clip commented by some viewers. Be aware though that this is not real time and was probably on some recording afterwards. The man was probably already dead for weeks before this footage was reviewed.
3) The musical background
Somebody edited in a tear jerker musical background.
No need to tell you how to avoid that.
Cooper Hernandez
thousands of people in the area the size of the WTC and more most of them fixating on the giant smouldering hole for an hour believing the worst had passed most of them with yuppie cameras in their underwear drawers all of them looking towards the towers all of them thinking "i've never seen anything like this"
yeah, guess what we have is all there is
Sebastian Carter
You're right. I remember it now.
There's video from an NYPD helicopter which shows some other things. Not anything gruesome but closeups on the fires and the helicopter crew's reaction right after the South Tower collapses. They at least saved some lives by being able to see the state of the building worsening and ordering a Police evacuation from the area.
Anthony Carter
The wacky part is it wasn't even dune coons whos did 911, it was the banksters. >Twin Towers the same proportions as the Pillars Boaz and Jachin at The Temple of Solomon >WTC7 renamed Soloman Brothers Building >Temple of Solomon destroyed on Tisha B'Av: "9th day of the 11th month" >Eleven years to the day before 9/11, HW Bush gives famous "New World Order" speech >Eleven years to the day after 9/11, Benghazi happens >Also on a 9-11, Kristallnacht, Chilean coup, Pentagon constrution >10 is, in Kaballah, God/perfection. 11 is to exceed perfection (e.g. Apollo 11 first to land on the moon), 9 to 11 implies skipping past it >Twin Towers form an 11 in the sky >Each is 110 stories tall >Event happens roughly between 9-11am >First "plane" to hit is AA11; AA is a "11". >93 is Thelema, the principle of "do what thou wilt" >Flight 93 in Shanksville >First "plane" hits the 93rd floor, second hits at 9:03am >Two planes hit the WTC, 11 and 175. Add these and split by two makes 93.
Parker Powell
>MSN Messenger, MSN profiles, AIM, ICQ >Everything was done from a handle you only told a few friends about Clearly it was better times.
Lucas Rogers
you tell me
Carter Parker
>Everything was done from a handle you only told a few friends about You got just as many random adds from friends of friends that wanted to hook up with you. If you compare to what was around before (early mobile phones), it was just as much of a step up as Tinder is. In a decade, Tinder will be archaic compared to the next socal dating/hookup app.
Leo Wood
I remember right after this happened the old site Consumption Junction had a bunch of images of the side walks littered with splattered bodies and limbs but OP is right Ive never seen anyone straight up hit but cameras were not as ubiquitous in 2001 as they are now.
Nolan Russell
so where did the towers go? they cleaned up that rubble in NY for like 9 months!
Carter Morales
so we're supposed to just accept that there will never be more footage?
Dylan Perry
it was a false flag. not a hoax.
Hudson Moore
Roof deck and bar joists will deflect on impact. Concrete will not.
Nathaniel Scott
You just ruined my day. Imagine what horror you need to face to choose jumping from few hundred tall building instead.
Isaac Kelly
It's out there, ive seen it. Theres a video from a nearby apartment where someone is filming them hitting the ground, if its not in this thread already it shouldnt be too hrd to find
Asher Adams
you whippernsappers just don't understand how incredible it was, to leap from the 105th floor before facebook existed...i don't want to believe that the existing footage is all that exists or will ever exist...9/11 wasn't enough
Samuel Kelly
goddamn, imagine how many unreleased 9/11 footage there is that we will never see because FBI and NSA hoarded it all and will never release it
Jacob Rivera
>what is the internet
Dominic Roberts
Why didn't they have parachutes or slides?
Christopher Collins
I mean you dont have to accept it. It is what it is. Its like hoping for more Hindenburg footage or Zapruder frames.
Noah Nguyen
>9 months I visited 2.5 years later and it was still totally destroyed with holes in the street big enough to fit a car and huge chunks of building in random places for blocks and blocks away
Camden Watson
The thing I miss is not having a facebook account your entire family and everyone you knew could link to.
Really if you just kept the internet to one professional account and 1-12 throwaway handles, then you'd be fine, but there's no system that would tell you this except experience.
Robert Morales
and why exactly you have to point out that they where white?
Adrian Barnes
this also why do you care OP? are you one of the retards who bought the subsersive '9/11 footage itself was CGI'?
David Taylor
Enjoy prison time for making fun of victims of terrorsim bro.
Geez, the firefighter at 2:46 gave me the goosebump nonetheless.
Cameron Walker
Fuck you faggot, its a lot better than burning to death
Thomas Gomez
why would you sick fucks watch this?
seek medical help
Lincoln Hall
That is Bob. Despite his best efforts Bob was unable to fly.
Samuel Mitchell
yeah, but the first year or so was when the majority of the clean up was done. people kept finding pieces of human skin and bone fragments for many years on neighboring buildings.
Brody Baker
Imagine 9/11 with current technology and social media. People taking pictures from inside the building, people posting snap chat stories. All the different angles of photography from outside the buildings
Ryder Bailey
>most of them with yuppie cameras in their underwear drawers
This is where you are going off the rails. Lower Manhattan is an extremely non-residential area -- especially back then. The only people with a decent vantage point to the carnage were other office workers, and they were getting the fuck out.
Add the fact that people didn't have smartphones with video, and that anybody at street level was getting shouted at by the NYPD to get out of the perimeter.
Dominic Barnes
because any other ones wouldn't have mattered? duh?
Hunter James
Same. It must have been really hard for them to not smack the camera out of someone's hand. Not sure I could exercise that restrain under those conditions. But maybe they were fixated that they didn't even notice they were being filmed.
there's some photos from inside the South Tower before it was hit. Showing the North Tower burning and look down on the plaza littered with debris.
Don't forget the 93 bombing. If you Google it they say smoke reached the 93rd floor of both towers. This was 3119 days before 9/11. The new building, (((One World))) Trade Center has 93 stories.
Plus all the Space Odyssey stuff.
Kayden Myers
Slides?
Juan Reed
Oh shit. Never seen the raw footage. Thanks for the link.
Luke Barnes
still waiting for the JFK JR. underwater in the plane footage ...
Caleb Ramirez
Where DID the towers go? Pic related.
Seems pretty weird that gravity could turn 220 stories of steel and concrete into dust. Such a fine dust that almost half of all victims were never identified (even through DNA testing of scraps). Such a fine dust that first responders couldn't even find desks or telephones. Such a fine dust that the FBI wore hazmat suits.
Curious...
Owen Sanchez
What the fuck do you expect we don't even get many pictures these days with everyone owning smartphones. Let alone videos.
James Green
Was gonna post JP but user beat me to it.
Besides this was not ground breaking effects they used.
Have you ever looked up in the sky and seen an airplane? On a bright, cloudless, blue September sky? Was the plane white with clear markings or was it blurry and grey?
All of the LIVE footage showed the "plane" hit from the side or behind. Pretty easy to animate.
Even the footage which came later and showed the """plane""" hit the building dead-on was pretty basic, pic related.
So, yes.
Daniel Ross
well, i am with you on that. there were definitely explosives used. it's just that some people actually believe that nothing happened. as in the towers were never hit by a plane OR blown up and it was just all made up.
Henry Adams
Your post is not real.
Aaron Hill
what am I exactly looking at?
Lincoln Gonzalez
You watched it, didn't you.
Brandon Hill
It happened in Europe where we write the date properly, i.e., smallest (day) to largest (year), meaning Nov 9th was dated as 9/11, you moron.