US heading to N. Korea

this is not good, or smart. Putin baited this shit so hard. not a freak-out, but unprecedented nonetheless.

How is this not good? We finally have a leader who isn't all talk and actually does something. Other countries will fear us like they should.

hostility between enemies equipped with nuclear weapons isn't a game. charting an actual strike force in their direction, after they condemned action in Syria, only provokes DPRK. nobody wants to agitate a crazy dictator with his hands on the chicken switch.

Lets fucking do this.

??? we don't need countries to fear us, nor should they.

This truly is Lefty/Pol/, Kim Jong Un doesn't have nukes or missles sting enough to even reach Japan retard. What's the problem of taking out Kim Jong Un unless your some socialist retard.

Agreed. I mean this is exact scenario was predicted, by Russia, but we might as well show up.

Found the faggot

Coming from the guy who assumes sending a battleship to DPRK is a plausible tactic to kill their leader...left, right, or center, autism affects all.

But the real question is. Are we actually going to go to war.
Might just end up being another cold war with no action.

lol - you were looking for one

First of all that tweet was proven false since that ship type is not in service anymore, however I would support taking out the North Korean government.

direct war w/ DPRK, possible. Cold War had a ton of action, it was a real war, just not on paper. N. Korea, Loas, Cambodia, Vietnam, all of those were prettt devestating, and all part of the Cold War. Not trying to knock you, just saying, this move could be seen as equivocal to Russia parking battleships in the carribean w/ bay of pigs.

What do you think the chances are for direct action and all out war?

first off, nobody has gotten as far as to prove a tweet about a real event, wrong. second, I didn't mention the ship type. third, it is not only an active ship, but carrying an actionable strike-force payload. Cheers.

hell, defense condition hasn't changed, I don't really know. I would say this is the actual closest we've been to direct war with DPRK or Russia.

Shiiiitt

Also Trump said that military presence in North Korea would increase so that means prepare to see more reports about US military vehicles spotted around Korea.

depends on Trump too. If I were Russia, or any of its allies, Trump's decision making, experience, and temperament would be my first target. Force the guy to make tough decisions he doesn't fully understand, with the goal of him making a mistake. Next, you use that mistake as a reason to strike. Just speculation, but check the analytical community, that theory has already been heavily weighed @DoD.

A battleship is a specific type of ship, the word you were probably looking for is warship.

we've exercised with SK multiple times, our equipment or troops close to DPRK is not new. An increase in presence was a weighted statement; now that he better understands consequential action, I think he's making his move.

probably.

North Korea knows this so what's the big deal

Hmm. Wonder if Australia is gonna deploy to help.

The big deal is how they react to this. In the past, they've tested missiles, and the international community has said "stop". Now, we are charting a course for the Korean Peninsula. Them knowing this doesn't matter, unless Un is feelin froggy.

Listen up faggots. No one will take action on DPRK, because no one wants the inevitable flood of refugees from there to China, South Korea and the rest of the region. Even the newly-minted RINO neo-con Trump wouldn't force some freedoms on them.

Pro-tip: They have no oil and are low on the totem pole of the petro-dollar nations hit list.

It would happend sonner or later time is on your side.
I mean you still doing your thing, and i don't like war but this one is justified.

>Putin baited this shit so hard.
What are you talking about? You know that for these countries, statements like this are just words. It doesn't mean anything. They're not democracies so they can say whatever the fuck they want.

Fighting emu's is higher priority imo

>nobody wants to agitate a crazy dictator with his hands on the chicken switch
How much are you willing to bet on that?

in korea 50/50

I wonder that too, but I doubt it. If any of our allies NATO or direct we're to head toward Korea right now, there would be some definite smoke in the city...

Look even Chinas fed up with North Korea someone's going to take them down and don't be surprised if it's the US

what refugees? we take care of north Korea by bombing them to hell and back and just make south and north korea, Korea. everyone can stay in their shitty island and be ruled by one power.

honestly I think the impact of war on refs is just accelerating the inevitable. Ppl are trying to flee their every hour, and most already end up in China. Luckily China's economy can withstand any substantial r-pop migration. The possibility of war with North Korea has never been fueled by the prospective resources we could gain, nor is it now.

witnessed but I disagree. Beijing uses North Korea like a thug nation to do some of its dirtier jobs and act as a buffer against nations it sees as potentially hostile like South Korea and Japan and benefits from the cheap labor pool.

Justified is a weird word here, but I'll roll with it. It's not like they've done anything beside test our patience, but their intolerance toward western culture is getting really old.

Every conflict, scuffle, and banana republic action has money or resources at the root since oh, forever. No one on the world stages gives half a fuck of the humanitarian crises that has been going on there since the 50's

What I meant was that I am suspecting Putin is provoking all of this, and one of the ways he's making it happen is to stand against the U.S., forcing us to make a move alone.

Touché

Hopeful

I doubt Putin has to pull any puppet-master strings. (((they))) do a great job of that already.

I think there's a mutual benefit in tolerating each other

You should run in 2020

Then you don't live in South Korea because everday for them it's like living next to a Fat Kid threatening you with a gun, the people are miserable and we can't wait long enough for them to actually learn how to make deadly middles and nukes.

I disagree, mainly because the world has cared, but we know we aren't their parents and they should humanely run their country without the world having to do something about it. We've been fighting communism for 6 decades because of its social, economical, and humanitarian consequences. That is us caring. I don't disagree that we're treasure claimers when it comes to war, but I disagree with that being the sole motive, or even applicable in this case. These riches and resources are usually just a bonus after the fact.

And if you don't think that 'they' is spearheaded by Putin, think again.

Wait - we want North Korea to "make" the nukes, or South Korea?

And no, I don't live in South Korea.

so it was all 99D diplomatic intimidation bullying to put North Korea into its place before some negotiations over disarmament or sth else.

> show you are fast to use the big stick
> walk up to N.Korea with a big stick

Result: little Kim is scared and high on agreeableness

We don't want North Korea figuring out how to make dangerous Nukes so we need to take them down before they get dangerous.

I really fucking hope that will work. The other side of the coin is a crazy fucking gook at a command center ready to blow its closest neighbors back to the Ling Ling Dynasty

the only real downside to obliterating the nork military is that they can probably shell seoul to rubble before we can finish them off

if you don't care about seoul, then there aren't really any downsides, apart from the cost

putting china on notice probably makes it worth the risk alone

Okay - yes, that is what we want. The problem is, North Korea doesn't want to do that. We've been trying to convince them for years, even Russia and China have asked them to stop research, development, and active storage.

1. nobody feared Obama
2. there is anarchy in international relations - they are mostly thugs
3. if you start your presidency with bombing, you get everybody's attention and the thug's respect

consider the opposite: you just talk for 3 years, everybody thinks you are a pussy, then you bomb sth, they are like "wtf dude, you gave us the impression you are just talking"

It's better for everybody if they expect your actions (punishment) to be what you say and what you do. Show proportionality from the start.

I hope nork's list of cities would end at Seoul, but I doubt it. Tokyo, Hawaii, Taipae, maybe even parts of India. If they launch, their expecting China and Russia to get engaged as well, which brings caution for the rest of the world.

Bring on the missiles, Kim. I'd like to see California nuked anyways.

This approach has been tried, and has failed many times before the spread of nuke tech. I agree, they are thugs, but we can't be certain they will just heed to our threat. If we do expect that, and they don't, were chasing our tails again. Obama was diplomatic with DPRK, if he were not, and created this fear you speak of, North Korea would be even more wired than they are, and again we are left here with mixed expectations.

They'd have to launch them, land them on a boat, and sail them to the west coast.

And, assuming you have a job, you probably wouldn't if it were not for California's economic contribution.

Who gives a fuck if they want that's why we have to take down their government the leader is a nut job

Agreed on all things said. The reason that we have to care about what they want is because they also have nuclear capabilities that are more-or-less unknown, meaning we only know what we know. It's gets more complicated than "take out their leader" (i wish I could) when your decision has a devastating effect on unknown millions of innocent people, in our out side of the people who actually live there.