This is for you idiots out there who are against capitalism. I seriously want to know why you guys think capitalism is such a bad thing. Let's go over a list of what capitalism has provided us and then go over a list of what socialism and communism has provided us. Shall we?
Capitalism >Cars >Smart phones >Video games >Movies >Massively reduced poverty rates >The freedom to pick your own job >Comic books >TV >Radio
Socialism and communism >North Korea >Nazi Germany >Soviet Russia >Mass starvation >Record high poverty rates >Welfare >Dictators >The most corrupt governments in history >The most brutal working conditions for almost no money whatsoever
Bumping once. If I get no replies it's fine. I'm just sick of anti-capitalists.
Austin Russell
I'm a socialist. Different economic systems have different benefits and drawbacks Capitalism is excellent at innovation and will produce new technologies faster than a communist system. Capitalism is like a big golden dragon that makes its nest in your country. It hoards its riches there and the people love it, but they only see his shimmering scales and don't look past it to see the poison spilling out of its mouth like a river corrupting the land. Capitalism naturally leads to degeneracy and social decay. Under capitalism nothing is sacred, it will eat any ideals you have and shit them out and sell them back to you. Over time it will turn the people into weak, vapid consumers giving their lives to it so they can live off its fat in its nest. It will help your people but it can only do so if it takes from others. It is unavoidable that capitalism will destroy everything eventually, it can only consume and when it has to start eating itself it will.
Carson Smith
You can say the same for communism and socialism. Communist governments always push people to work harder and harder for less and less. Eventually the general public will snap.
And with socialism, I believe this quote sums it all up. "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."
Mason Ross
The only good form of Sociaslism is National Socialism which is superior to capitalism,but capitalism is superior to communism and other forms of socialism
Jackson Carter
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Robert Collins
Sauce on pic?
Christopher Long
Yeah don't provide an argument or anything.
Gabriel Reed
School of Ragnarok. A Japan exclusive Arcade game. It was brought to the west via Round 1 Arcades though.
Another great thing about capitalism right there.
Asher Jenkins
Communism is just an ideal, it's not meant to be implemented as is in our society, the only way it may happen is if society naturally transitions from socialism to communism later on. Socialism when implemented correctly makes a nation into an unstoppable Titian. Stalin was one of the greatest leaders the world has ever seen because of how efficient he was. After taking power he removed the racial elements like Trotsky, he was able to successfully purge the jewery from the Soviet Union and organize it from one of the sick men of Europe to an industrial powerhouse. Things went wrong after he died and everyone after him being an incompotant idiot that went against everything Stalin stood for.
Kevin White
When you grow up you will learn that more systems than communism and capitalism exist.
Ryan Ward
I like Capitalism it gave me Recettear.
Angel Morales
That's why you're supposed to balance capitalism with religion. But communism doesn't allow religion, as all religions will be against the state. So when you claim nothing is sacred under capitalism, this is only true sometimes, whereas it is always 100% true that nothing is sacred in communism. If you resist, under capitalism you will have some voices of support. Under communism everyone will rat you out for a little benefit to themselves, while you face the firing squad.
I FUCKING HOPE TO GOD YOU ACHIEVE YOUR SOCIALIST DREAMS WITHIN YOUR LIFETIME SO YOU CAN HAVE A LITTLE TASTE OF METAL BULLETS IN YOUR FRAIL BODY, LITTLE MAN
Aaron Ortiz
Oh I'm well aware others exist, but socialism, communism, and capitalism are the only ones that most people give any shits about.
Gabriel Jackson
Capitalism will turn the religion into a product and sell it until there is nothing there. Communism isn't inherently atheistic, Mars believed that without the need for religion the people would just abandon it. A socialist state needs to conform to fit its people, it's not a uniform ideology. A socialist state simply allows for greater autonomy of the state as a whole since its all under one authority instead of being a tangled web of alliances between corporations like in a capitalist society.
Also >little man For you
Tyler Anderson
Move to North Korea if you like it so much.
Alexander Miller
Fuck anticapitalists, somehow they are always the most useless and socially awkward people I know, with delusions of grandeur
Isaiah Russell
>faggot get rich thanks to nepotism >his faggot son who didn't earn it is going to inherit it all "think grapefruit who just shot 80 million taxpayer dollars on democratically elected sovereign government cause muh wmds"
Nicholas Morris
I don't want to live in any Korea, capitalist or socialist. I'm just saying that I believe capitalism to be inferior to socialism and I think a socialist America would be the best possible outcome for our country.
Eli Young
Of course they are, why do you think they support welfare so much? Because they're fucking useless and wanted to make money off the backs of the people who are giving them the things that are improving their lives.
Nicholas Rivera
>says this while living in a country where the governmental system lets him freely disagree with it.
Oliver Walker
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Grayson Allen
>He thinks this is an argument
Nicholas Cox
Yes, because socialist policies like welfare have proven to be such massive successes in America... what with the millions of cases of welfare abuse being reported every year, the hard working poor people who are getting more money squeezed out of them, the overweight dipshits gaining weight at home all day while contributing nothing to society.
Ayden Clark
Most capitalist countries do not have freedom of speech, sweetheart.
Andrew Parker
And you can say that about all of these, because they are basically the same. In the end it's the bottom line.
Adrian Morris
>This is for you idiots out there who are against capitalism. You're posting this HERE?
Brayden Wilson
>actually liking stalin he sure was efficient at making the proletariat his slaves and having them starve while he had many mansions and always more then enough to eat.
Hunter Edwards
Paying politicians to get your own personal interests ahead of The interests of the general public is corporatism, not capitalism.
Levi Garcia
>He thinks American welfare is socialism Sweetie...
Jackson Robinson
what is the 1st amendment >he's too stupid to know it's an argument
Lincoln Lewis
In contrast to the reasonable denizens of Sup Forums, right?
Jack Allen
They have more freedom of speech than communist and socialist countries though. In China, you can't even release a goddamn video game without the government yelling at you for including a single line of dialogue which may criticize China or its history.
Lucas Gutierrez
>Cars cars were pushed for by city governments to reduce hore shit from drawn cariges >Smart phones i'll give you that one but its not unlikely that you would eventually end up with them >Video games what is tetris >Movies >implying only jews can produce films the nazi party made some pretty good flicks >Massively reduced poverty rates wrong, look at your shithole country >The freedom to pick your own job when are you getting drafted, faggot? health issues >Comic books natural outcome for printed media. even commies had pamflets back in the early 20th century >TV wrong >Radio came about through use in the military and was then used for civilians
why do retarfs think tgey can discuss world issues
If they hadnt opened the boarders and stayed white, Sweden would be a paradise.
Ayden Stewart
>taking money from the wealthy and giving it to the poor >Thst's literally socialism
Dear oh dear.
Brandon Kelly
That's just how things are, it's a fact of life. There are people starving today while we have a nice bed of wealth here and more than we could ever need. Oppression is a fact of life, the argument is just about where the burden should be spread. Stalin did some acts that would be considered "morally wrong", but that doesn't fucking matter at all, it's just shit flinging. Every great leader does sacrifice innocent people, it's somthing they have to do in their position.
Jordan Edwards
China is a capitalist country
William Powell
Which will naturally happen in a capitalist system because it allows for people to concentrate wealth and power in their hands and over time they'll just keep taking it further.
Aiden Harris
Not entirely, no. They are still under some extremely strict regulations and many people have no choice other than to work in factories.
Benjamin Gomez
Capitalism doesn't allow religion either. It commodifies it until it's of no higher value.
Mason Clark
Name three.
Gabriel Wilson
Not getting drafted because I don't have to serve in the military. It's optional in America. Lol.
Levi Cruz
It's more of a socialist county, really.
Gavin Brown
Communism had cars.
Christopher Torres
>it optional
not if you get drafted you fat fuck
Adrian Hill
>he's trying to argue against socialism but he doesn't even know what socialism is This isn't even a fucking debate it's a FAQ. From each according to their ability to each according to their needs is the fundamental aspect of socialism. Getting free money from a capitalist system to keep capitalism going is not socialism. While a socialist state would care for its people, it wouldn't do so without getting anything in return.
David Morris
yes but I worked for my bed and food, also stalin killed hundreds of millions of people, literally worse than hitler. If some one doesn't want to work or is to dumb to get themselves out of a shitty situation then so be it. Sure some people will get fucked over but its better than having no advancement at all in society. Why be a doctor or engineer when I can have others pay for everything I need. You need conflict to survive and making everyone equal makes people weak and lazy.
Ryder Gutierrez
I'm not going to get drafted because I'm disabled. I'm only going to my left eye so I can't go ha ha
Samuel Johnson
You're right that a lot of shitty people are anti-capitalist. However it's also somewhat of a necessity for any anti-capitalist to be a failure by Capitalist measures of value, isn't it?
Christian Gray
That's bullshit because there are plenty of socialist countries that don't get jack shit for supporting the poor. I've seen plenty of socialist markets that have jack shit to offer. And welfare is still a socialist ideology.
Matthew Bailey
like i said >health issues
you're pathetic, lad
Ryder Edwards
Blind in my left eye*
Henry Rodriguez
>the trillions of gazillions guys!!!1 Good goy. (((Who's))) source are you gonna use for this one?
Under a socialist system everyone still works for their bed, it's just that the government is their boss instead of me shekelstein. For the majority of the people things will remain largely the same. Why be a doctor or engineer now? People will do so for more prestige and resources whether those are still cash whatever else the state pays you in. I agree that you can't force equality, it has to happen naturally over time like the transition of feudalism to capitalism.
Cooper Ramirez
Being blind in my left eye has nothing to do with America having health issues.
Josiah Lee
This is a problem with organization. Nepotism will always be a problem that needs to be rooted out regularly or the state will become slow and bloated. This is an obvious drawback of the system but it's not like it's one that capitalists don't know.
Matthew Diaz
>777 Nice trips of god
I'm not against capitalism, however there are a few aspects I don't like about it that demand answering.
The first is the fact that Banking automatically makes you the king of capitalism. It doesn't seem like there is any way around it, he who controls money controls the world. All businesses have to be friends with the bank to get anywhere because to make money you must have money and the major way of getting that startup money is through loans. Basically, all other paths of capitalism are pointless under banking industry.
The second is the "money game". This is when the most profitable aspects in a capitalist society are maintained through playing the stock game. These people don't really contribute a product or service, or technically do any "work". They win big through sneaky tactics to suck the fat off companies as they shuffle them around. They aren't producing goods, or supply services, they are draining from them like some sort of welfare.
In my mind Capitalism should reward people for supplying a product or service and their power should come from demand. There is something unholy about people that merely play the money game or make money itself their industry and the fact that they are the only real winners in capitalism, aside from people who are uplifted by the demand of the people.
Nathan Richardson
>Using good goy >worshiping the most retarded kike of all time People don't naturally want equality they want to be the best, thats why natural selection is a thing, you can't change human behavior unless you genetically change it. Even if that does happen would we even be considered human anymore. I am a doctor because I make fucking bank, if I could have the same benefits and pay from being a fucking trashman and not having to go to school for 8 years I fucking would. You view humans as ants who can have only one intrest and that is the betterment of the colony. People are much more complex and selfish, always have always will.
>wants to be the best Killing the competition is a good way of making that a certainty, no?
Jose Roberts
>can't debate human nature or genetics thats natural selection my dude might makes right
Lucas Moore
Investing your wealth in a capitalist enterprise isn't a sneaky tactic that doesn't contribute anything, it's like a farmer planting seeds but with money.
Daniel Baker
>religion What you're saying is that you think capitalism only works if the entire population is pacified and indoctrinated to the point where they might as well not be living anymore at all?
Jose Gonzalez
>can't debate... I don't need to debate it.
Jordan Powell
at least you know that your uniformed
Nolan Butler
Here's something I found hilarious. Look this up if you don't believe me. Many liberals are pro-socialism while conservatives are pro-capitalism.
The funny thing about that? Conservatives donate more money to charities than liberals do. So liberals only support socialism as long as they're not the ones paying for it. Lol
Gabriel Johnson
I'm less talking about investing into a company in such a way, I'm talking about shit like what EA does. Or shit that Soros does, all those companies that just exist to buy out other companies and fuck around with stock.
It's not just simply investing into a company and making more money back as it grows.
Logan Perez
Can't decipher your commie nonsense. Post more Bonten.
Landon Roberts
>Commie nonsense Being a kike who just sits around buying and selling stock all day shouldn't be considered capitalism.
