We can build an Orbital Ring Space Elevator today, using steel and kevlar. The Orbital Ring goes to low earth orbit, so it does not need advanced materials.
Why build the Orbital Ring? It would cut our costs of going to orbit from about $2000/kg to about $1/kg. There are individual asteroids that have tens of trillions of dollars in materials on them that could be mined. One mission could easily pay for the cost of building the Orbital Ring.
We could then deploy solar power satellites in orbit above cloud cover and return the power back to the surface with near zero loss by running power transmission cables down the elevator, and sell the power at a profit.
With increased luminosity in space, enhanced exposure time, and the ability to deliver base loads, solar panels pay for themselves in only 1-2 years while having a 20 year life time.
In other words, if you put $5 trillion of solar panels into space, you get your $5 trillion back by the end of year two and a $5 trillion income stream each year thereafter.
In other words, the US could cut everyone's taxes, both personal and business, income, capital, death, or otherwise, all to 0%, not even cut any benefits or current spending, and pay off the national debt within a decade.
Not to mention it will break the focus and hypnosis of the hordes of followers who look to the neocons, bankers, war mongers, etc for policy. If the people's focus becomes living for the infinite and to never stop exploring we could end our disastrous foreign policy once and for all
Noah Phillips
But I want my government to screw me over
Grayson King
The space elevator is how we get rid of the cabal. Cheap, abundant energy. We can sell the energy and get rid of taxes.
Then we start mining asteroids, which would mean hundreds of trillions of dollars in materials, just within the first few years.
Permanetly break the backs of these aristocratic slavers. We are coming. We will not be stopped.
The banking cabal maintains their position by selling drugs and forcing everyone to use the dollar. Replace the bankrupt system with a new system based on material abundance, and you remove their justification for existing.
Thomas Phillips
Once resources are not an issue, that means we'd be a Type 1 Civilization right?
>no tesla free energy and antigravity shit he promised
we've been jew'd lads
Leo Davis
Nate?
Nathaniel Martinez
Yes. And it can happen in our lifetime. We could be leaving the solar system within 20 years, easily.
Connor Diaz
Digits
Get rid of tax
Juan Martin
Tesla was the one that came up with the Orbital Ring Space Elevator idea. He planned to use it for terrestrial transporation, due to the lack of friction in space.
We will also use it for that purpose, and it will make it possible to go 1000mph across the planet for a few dollars.
Gavin Butler
doesnt trump have tesla's secret tech blueprints?
Samuel Sullivan
We don't have the technology.
Jonathan Perez
yes, he got em from his uncle John Trump MIT professor, Trump is actually John Titor
Charles Mitchell
Maybe. But we can't verify that. We can verify the closest thing to free energy that we can prove, which is space-based solar power for less than a penny per kilowatt hour.
Jaxon Hill
go slav squat around a gasoline barrel fire with your gorgeous women, we'll be exploring the stars
Jacob Edwards
The Orbital Ring doesn't have long tethers like the space elevator most people think of. We can build it today, with steel and kevlar. It only goes up a couple hundred km.
Jeremiah Wood
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Samuel Clark
Fuck yeah!!!
Jackson Collins
We'd be pretty fucked if some jackass decided to crash a plane into the wires that hold it to earth
Evan Gutierrez
Uh, ok. The Space Elevator Party accepts the support of the Black Israelites.
:)
Nicholas Bailey
I mean, we pretty much do, but the engineering alone would be a tremendous feet. Each link would be pretty fucking heavy, and it would require some mechanism to tether with other pieces and the capability to adjust orbit. I've seen estimates suggesting the total construction cost to be around 30 trillion, so like 1/3 of the world's GDP. To get that kind of cooperation you'd essentially need a non tribal globalist society
Colton Rogers
But earth is flat
Noah Parker
Ya, i'm right here. What do you want?
Wyatt Hughes
we do have free energy just not for the plebs
An electrodynamic tether is attached to an object, the tether being oriented at an angle to the local vertical between the object and a planet with a magnetic field. The tether's far end can be left bare, making electrical contact with the ionosphere. When the tether intersects the planet's magnetic field, it generates a current, and thereby converts some of the orbiting body's kinetic energy to electrical energy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrodynamic_tether >Mfw my dad used to run ticker tape for TELECOM back in the 70's >Mfw where he worked they kept the info hub running but using magnets in the floor that basically created unlimited energy >Mfw that shit was built in the early 60's >Yfw you realize that the US solved the energy crisis back in the 60's but never told anyone because you don't make money off unlimited free energy
Brody Ortiz
That's why you would have a military available to protect it.
A tether collapsing does not have to be catastrophic, either. We could use dynamic structures to go up 20 miles or so, and have the rest steel and tether, to basically allow you to drop the connection if a heavy storm came.
And you could put parachutes on the tether to slow it down in case of a collapse.
Ayden Torres
>I've seen estimates suggesting the total construction cost to be around 30 trillion, so like 1/3 of the world's GDP.
That was an old estimate from the 1980s, from Paul Birch. And he explained ways to make it much cheaper, such as deploying the tethers first and using them to launch the material up, or building a launch loop first.
With current technology, we can put one up for around $400 billion, conservatively.
Daniel Nguyen
plus that opens up new possibilities in space flight
Chase Ward
And then when ISIS ends up breaking this thing causing trillions of dollars in damage?
Jacob Flores
and asteroid mining
Jose Ward
space cocks
Ethan Lewis
>magnets in the floor How the fuck did that work?
Dominic Perez
ISIS was created by the CIA. Cut off their funding and weapons shipments by smashing Langley into 10,000 pieces.
The ghost of JFK is returning.
Benjamin Mitchell
Asteroid mining is the biggest one. It could pay for the whole project with a single mission. The only thing holding us back is the $2000/kg to get to space. Drop that to $1, and we'll colonize the moon and mars, and be exploring past the solar system within a decade.
Julian Gutierrez
KENNEDY WILL BE AVENGED!
Fuck this banking cabal, and their corrupt system of usury! Forcibly Remove the Federal Reserve!
Carson Butler
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Nicholas Martinez
we gon go to other galaxies?
Ayden Clark
Do you know how much space debris there is that would be at risk of hitting this thing? 200 years from now, we won't even be able to get into space.
When my father worked at TELECOM their entire shift was spent in isolation and they received orders through a latch hole in the door like in a prison drunk tank as well as food. They had escorts to and from the facility at the beginning and end of shifts where they had to look at the floor while they walked through the building and if they looked up or around at all they would be court marshalled on the spot and dishonorably discharged. I'm not joking
Anthony Adams
In addition to nearly free energy, an end to taxes, plenty of money for universal basic income, and 20% GDP growth, there's the added benefit of drawing penises on Mars. Which will not longer be limited only to the rich.
Juan Thompson
Never gonna happen. Here's why. We are pretty stupid when it comes to the obvious.
Eli Robinson
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Cooper Perry
That may be a stretch initially. But in your grandchildren's time, it could happen.
Matthew James
visit the stars?
Liam Adams
Naysayers need to get fucked.
We already have robust anti-missile defense. The ONLY problem with it is over-the-horizon anticipation of missiles and having your interceptors be fast enough to catch up with delayed detection.
When someone tries to fire missiles into space to hit the elevator, but your anti-missile defense is already in space waiting, that problem goes away.
In short, robust defense mechanisms for the orbital ring already exist and the knownothings need to GET OUT.
Camden Robinson
Every damn time we talk about space elevators, some shill comes in and starts talking Flat Earth.
That should tell you that this discussion is a threat to the powers that be.
Michael Miller
Definitely. Within 20 years of starting construction on the elevator. Maybe 15.
Wyatt Hill
I'm not talking about missiles... I'm talking about giant chunks of metal flying into the fucker.
Connor Perez
Can you guys imagine how good it will feel when that space elevator is built?
Isaiah Myers
Fund it, now.
Jose Howard
>No wall >No muslim ban >No tax reduction What we have? >Doing Obamas work >Prelude to WW3 >Sucking Saudi and Jewish dick >Beign greedy NEOCON pupet
XD
Lincoln Evans
We have lasers designed to take down ICBMs. We could also use conventional weaponry to take it down. Or a ship to divert it.
In short, it sounds like a much bigger problem than it is.
Ian Young
And how much will that cost?
Levi Kelly
It's happening. Soon.
Adrian Lewis
I feel so bad for these people, we should have elected Hillary
William Wood
It is one of the pivotal moments in human history, Mr. President. You get to make first contact with an alien race, and after you do, everything begins to change. Your space elevator allow fleets of starships to be built and mankind to start exploring the Galaxy. It unites humanity in a way no one ever thought possible when they realize they're not alone in the universe. Poverty, disease, war. They'll all be gone within the next fifty years.
Ethan Young
>the only thing about Trump is in the pic >the shill still posted his lines >>>r/MAT
Noah Bailey
Holy shit, we've got the Finns in here! The Land of the White Death stands with the Eagle!
Build the Space Elevator!
Austin Wilson
t.Drumpf faggot Go back to Israel you kike.
Jaxon Nguyen
>What we have?
He went full cuck. The only way back is to build the space elevator. He'd have 90% support overnight if he announced this.
Owen Nguyen
>be Sup Forums user >do not know the Earth is flat
Blake Parker
space elevators are gay
William Anderson
I haven't run numbers, but I would estimate tens of millions. Basically nothing compared to the cost of the project.
John Long
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Nolan Martin
>They'll all be gone within the next fifty years.
You're right, but it would be like 5 years before basic poverty is gone from the earth (water and food shortages), and maybe 10 before everyone has at least a decent living ($10,000 a year).
The total development cost for laser weapons was only $40M. $11M spent to train officers to use the weapons.
Lasers can destroy missiles for less than $1 per shot compared to $10M anti-missile missiles, which we can get rid of with a space based defense system. The lasers protecting the orbital ring can also protect the ground.
So really the "true" cost of laser defense of the orbital ring is negative! You save more money by scrapping anti-missile missile programs than the anti-missile laser program costs.
Blake Bennett
You're gay for not wanting 20% GDP growth, clean energy cheaper than coal, balanced budgets, and the ability to a vacation on the moon.
Parker Gutierrez
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Connor Moore
Explain how satellites, space stations and the moon don't fall down then?
Easton Reyes
Very mature, Jose. If I understand correctly it still has tethers. And what kills the tethers is their own weight. The cost doesn't matter when the project isn't physically feasible.
Gabriel Adams
I love these threads because they attract smart people who know shit like this off the top of their heads. :)
Gavin Lopez
I just edited a line from Star Trek: First Contact but nice
Wyatt Young
Any sort of cable break and you have a massive catastrophe on your hands, 160km (minimum) long cable travelling at upwards of 20,000 km/h
That's an absolute fuck ton of potential energy and anything in it's path would be obliterated.
Gavin Evans
dunno search on youtube and you'll find
Anthony Lewis
>If I understand correctly it still has tethers. And what kills the tethers is their own weight
Yes. The tethers are a few hundred km, though. We can build them with steel and kevlar.
This isn't going all the way out to geosynchronous. Just enough to get past the atmosphere and allow you to launch things to higher orbits really cheaply.
Michael Gutierrez
A space elevator is the next step of civilization. It's time that we go from being a type 0 civilization to a type 1
Andrew Carter
Fake and gay.
The high surface area to mass ratio means everything burns up in the atmosphere.
Asteroids only work because they are thick enough to burn off meters of material in the atmosphere before impact.
You have to GET OUT if you don't know what you are talking about.
Brandon Cruz
>Any sort of cable break and you have a massive catastrophe on your hands, 160km (minimum) long cable travelling at upwards of 20,000 km/h
The 20,000 km/h is made up. But this is easily managed. You can put the tethers away from any population center, use detachable inflatable structures for part of it, or put parachutes on the tether.
Ryder Peterson
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Hunter Long
So basically, that orbital ring will serve as a "space harbour" which will allow rockets to be launched from there and not have to escape from Earth's gravitational grab everytime they are launched? Very nice, the idea has a great potential.
Jack Carter
>The 20,000 km/h is made up
Not understanding reference frames. Go back to grade school science.
Jeremiah Ramirez
Yes. You could think of it as a giant roller coaster that rockets you toward higher orbits.
Once you build the first ring, you can build more for about $1 billion each. So it could be used for transportation terrestrially. Sort of like a hyperloop, with the vacuum provided by space. Once we have cheap space-based solar power, going across the planet at 1000 mph would cost like $10 a person. Even poor people could take a vacation anywhere on earth.
Aaron Bailey
No one is this stupid. You're a paid shill. You just exposed yourself, and every time you come in here you let people know that the space elevator is incredibly dangerous to the powerful people on this earth. Your mere presence contributes to the crumbling of the fucked up aristrocratic world that pays you pennies to betray your brothers.
Sebastian Carter
>solar panels
How would the power be transmitted down to Earth?
Colton Ross
Running an electrical current through the earth's magnetic field?
Ryan Gray
YES We need ONE (1) to get the ball rolling to bring us into a new age.
Sebastian Anderson
Run wires down the tethers.
You could also transmit it wirelessly for pretty cheap (less than a penny/kwh IIRC)
Lincoln Torres
With an orbital ring system up to geosynchronous altitude (~36,000 km) and a railgun supported by such a system, you can launch at a comfy 2 gees and achieve 38 km/s speeds.
38 km/s will get you to Mars in about two months, compared to the normal ~1 year travel times. Of course with cheap energy we can put sails on our craft powered by lasers and drop travel times to Mars to days rather than a couple months.
Jason Perez
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Samuel Powell
Man, I was convinced of this in the late 90s from some Art Bell guest. It would be magnificent.
Justin Taylor
What is happening Sup Forums?
Adrian Rivera
>It would be magnificent.
Welcome to the Space Elevator Party.
Adrian Hernandez
>Implying the US won't invade Nprth Korea with South Korea, China and Japan's help. And Trump gave his benediction to China for building more artificial islands if they agree to help
