Here’s what I don’t get about ethno-nationalism

It’s pretty clear that different groups of people are of different average intelligence. Whatever the reasons may be, I honestly don’t see why it matters. Here’s why. Let’s take whites and blacks as an example. Whites are on average more intelligent by a very significant margin. But there are smart blacks, and there are stupid whites. We should have a society where we accept the smart, of all kinds, and reject the stupid, of all kinds. And before you give me shit for this, keep in mind that probably one of the major reasons for white intelligence is that we didn’t coddle the weak, if someone couldn’t cut it they were cast off, societal benefit on the basis of race is dysgenic.

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I dont get it either, but if you look at it most people (even the supposedly intelligent ones) arent very intelligent to begin with, so yeah, your idea sounds very rational but being rational is not a very common trait, most people are fighting due to the teachings of schizophrenics and emo kids from the neolithic, think about it.

Yeah. I also find it fun that nobody is willing to engage on this topic or defend their positions apparently.

>Civic Nationalist America
>Blacks comprise almost entirety of the lower class, cleaning toilets, being janitors, working at grocery stores, maybe even tradesmen like plumbers

MUHFUGGIN' SYSTEMIC RACISM AND WHITE OPPRESSION


As dindu-like as paddies are, at least you can't spot one from 500 yards away. There's no racial issue with them.

I never said it was systematic white oppression. I do think blacks are dumber as a race. However there are a few smart blacks, we should accept them. WHILE rejecting the dumb majority along with the few dumb whites. That's how you build a strong society.

The problem is that the average intelligence is very important to the development of a country. If you import too many people from low iq areas, it's going to impact the quality of life of people from richer, high iq areas. That's explains why in the west blacks and muslims are overrepresented in crime rate, unemployment, welfare...

In a way it is unfair for people of these ethnicities who happens to be very intelligent. But a country should worry about their own citizens first.

Brazil is a perfect example of this. There certainly are great nonwhite people here (i happen to friends with some of them), but it's still a shit place to live compared to the west.

I'm not sure you're getting what I'm saying. I am in no way advocating mass importation of anyone. All I'm saying is that making race the primary thing among populations existing in an area, or among potential small-scale immigrants is a bad idea.

Or how about we just take the smart people of our own race and keep everyone else out, you fucking degenerate racemixer?

Why is it a bad idea? Just because you have high iq non whites doesn't mean they can integrate. If anything the working class white masses will come to hate them.

We base legislation on the norm, not the exception

Fuck you nigger

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Not actually a bad point. I'll have to think about that. I hadn't really considered the non-linear difference angle.

Well, that kind of depends on what's the main goal of people on this board. There are people who want to stop the decline of the white population and want a white ethnostate. In this case of course they are going to oppose race-mixing and encouraje large white families.
There are those who care more about de development of their country and its quality of life. In this case they may advocate for high iq immigration, politics that discourage poor people (who usually have lower iq) from having kids (end welfare) and of course still oppose mass migration from poor countries, but not necessarily oppose race-mixing.
Anyway, in some countries, like mine, only the second option is possible now.

Regression to the mean.

The descendants of smart blacks will always go back to being niggers.

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I know. I've always sort of seen the first one as a "beat the niggers by becoming the niggers" option though.

When you break it down to some utilitaristic argument about intelligence then you might have a point.
But there are many other observables in human behaviour that differ from ethnicity to ethnicity.
You would have to make a point about why the you want to change something that worked perfectly fine over the centuries. We're giving up a cohesive society for some "diversity" that noone has given us a good explanaton what it's good for.

This. OP doesn't understand how statistics work.

Intelligence isn't an additive genetic trait, it's genetic, yes, but if you really wanted to breed ubermench, it would take many, many generations of selective breeding to get a superior result. You would be intentionally delaying the progress of this process by involving "smart blacks" since they still carry many of the genetics with them associated with lower intelligence, even if individually, they're smart.

OP is an idiot and a faget

Because IQ is just one aspect, we want actual blondes to exist in 200 yrs. It's also unpleasant and does not add to social cohesion to have multiculti.

Also, by taking smart blacks from Africa, you are making their population EVEN MORE retarded by preventing their natural IQ to keep stable. While the smart blacks will then revert to the mean anyways.

This is elementary, get off the sub if you're gonna kike out.

Why do you NEED blacks in your society lol... it's as if someone if obsessed with (((diversity))) for diversity's sake. People are naturally happier with people who are similar to their own kind.

>Regression to the mean.
Only happens when smart people breed with less intelligent people.

The different groups within a society lead eventually to unsustainable welfare and "equality" policies degenerating society, or outright communist revolution when ignored.

t. the stupid white that feels threaten by OP opinion

kys please

largely because outliers in populations tend to have children that merely retract back toward the mean when they have kids. In the case of race mixing, the couple merely have kids that are typically on average, the average IQ between the two parents.

You will still be stunting the population with 'diversity,' which is not necessary, ever; the kids will feel incredibly out of place in an otherwise white society, and as a result will probably end up dying alone, unmarried simply because they do not fit in with the existing country.

Why are civic nationalists so insistent on creating circumstances in which divide and conquer is almost definitely the outcome at the end of the day? It's how Rome died, it's how Germany is dying now, and it's how the US will die in the future.

also what is regression to the mean???

serious question, why would anyone need blacks in their society?
Is something terrifying to see a black chimpout, even if he is on a foreign land, even if he is 16 vs 1, jesus christ

slavery

Basically the problem is that the kids of the high-intelligence non-whites will tend to revert to the mean of their race. Otherwise I agree with you. If someone came up with a way to resolve the problem of the kids reverting to the mean, then ethno-nationalism would have no logical support whatsoever.

A nigger on the right side of the IQ bell curve is a still a different fucking species