I am a libertarian: debate me

I am a libertarian: debate me.

Roads.

What's it like being a massive tool?

Roads

Why do you think you're special?

Immigration?

Because we wouldn't have bombed Syria.

everyone on this board who isnt a newfag, a shill, a troll or a retard is a libertarian

congratulations. you are a normal Sup Forumstard

>can't even draw proper trigger discipline

CLASSICAL L I B E R A L I S M WILL SET YOU FREE

Built by a sovereign corporation which governs a micro-state.

Youre literally cancer.

At least communists stand dor something.

At least SJW have a purpose in life.

Youre trash.

>implying

Huywhites only.

Who will pay for the roads? For some reason I am unwilling to pay for them even though I use them every day and already am paying for them. I am a retard who needs the government to tell me what to spend my money on.

Why open borders? This is just asking for subversion. You are not playing extra-dimensional chess.

Not an argument.

What is keeping that corporation a micro state?

Libertarian isn't ancap retards.

I don't support open borders, look at the op image, you stupid fuck.

Would you regulate companies over environmental protection or do they have the right to pollute the air and waters endlessly?

>muh feelings

(You)

(I): Both libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism endorse disallowance (not mere 'regulation') of violating private property. Thus --- in libertarianism --- when pollution is violating someones' property or person, a legal case is brought against whatever organization is polluting and a governmental court exacts propitious restitution for all parties harmed. This is better than bureaucratic regulation which often forbids innocuous activities whilst excepting polluters from paying full restitution. The process is identical in anarcho-capitalism except courts and enforcers are private and polycentric.

(II): In Techno-Commercialism, a sovereign company governs a micro-state and prevents private courts and enforcers from engaging in Hobbesian warfare whilst providing a sovereign court of final appeal.

I didn't draw it.

Deterrence from other micro-states.

How does a libetarian solve the problem of overpopulation.
To me the national-socalist answer of Lebensraum (aquring land or teritory that is needed in order for the nation to grow), seems the most viable option.

However countries that have low population density i.e. Russia wont always give up their land forcibly, to deal with the greatest threat to that of mankind.
So the only answer then would be the natural tribal instinct of war to achive that land for the future and present survival of a nation and its people not to mention mankind as we know it.

However surley this option will most definelty break the NAP, are there really any other viable options that dont break the NAP that are sustainable in the long term, and what will work as efficently to that of Lebensraum?

What about eugenics?

pragmatic solutions to problems

Be specific.

so 1% of Sup Forums

More like half.

In AnCap world whose propery is Amazon forest for example?
Would they allow chopping it to the ground despite it's important role?
Also who applies law there if there's no state police or court?

roads
degeneracy (tranny fucking, drug abuse, etc.)
subversive media
educational standards

Sounds like Commie Rhetoric.

Not only that, there isn't a problem with overpopulation.

Nor is the idea of Libertarianism a global notion.

How's middle school treating ya?

>How does a libetarian solve the problem of overpopulation.
Well for starters no child subsidies ?

Eugenics is only a short term solution that works wonders hand in hand with Lebensraum to ensure the racial stock is that of the best.

However eugenics simply on its own is only a means to an end, eventully your perfect nation of people are going to need more space to grow and to survive they cant carry on in the tiny plot of land that they are in, eventully resources will be depleted and millions will die off due to lack of basic needs not being met.

Roads are a meme. You won't need them when everything you want is on your property

I'm not an AnCap.

>Also who applies law there if there's no state police or court?

Private and polycentric courts and police.

I don't give a fuck what political party you support as long as you oppose Globalism, Islamification of the west, and Zionism.

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>roads

Built by a sovereign corporation which governs a micro-state.

>degeneracy (tranny fucking, drug abuse, etc.)

Who cares?

>subversive media

Not a problem once we abolish democracy and deport The Jews.

>educational standards

You mean (((educational standards)))?

but without globalism we can never engineer the perfect meme society

I can respect the fact that you're at least open about your retardation.

I oppose all of those except I only oppose Zionism insofar as it meddles with gentile politics. I don't give a shit what Jews do in their own land just that they are forbidden from subverting ours.

Not an argument.

>Private and polycentric courts and police.
But how do any of these organisations gain validity to enforce power? And wouldn't it make them no different form a state?

"Commie rhectoric", no not quite at all if anything it is one of Hitlers main talking points within mein kamphf.
A socialist orientaited rhecoritc, yes prehaps as it is carring about the needs of the people of the nation.

Overpopulation is not a problem?
it is a problem that is on the midst though, it will catch us out unexpected and when we least think it will, its already happening in the third world.
Money can only buy you so much but you cant buy fields for crops if there are no more fields?

Just look at this graph it shows the growth in population it is simply skyrocketing, and unless drastic mesaures are taken we are all in for the high jump,
maybe not today nor in my lifetime but it will catch up with us.

That's why I am a Techno-Commercialist not an anarcho-capitalist.

Got any good literature suggestions on the topic of Techno-Commercialism?

In a libertarian society, what is there to prevent a foreign invader with massive military power (say, for example, modern day China) from taking over or destroying your property? In the end, does it all boil down to a bellum omnium contra omnes and whoever has most force wins?

XenoSystems.net.

>what is personal responsibility?

Thanks. It's Land's site, right?

How could we protect the environment in a Libertarian society?

Okay so by doing so you thereby reduce the amount of children low income families can have and can look after.
It dosen't solve the problem of families having as many children as they want if they can afford it.

Your still going to have the problem of overpopulation it is simply just like putting more money in the meter for the life support machine, eventully you will run out.

Your ideology has no base in either morality or nature and is thus utterly worthless. Making money and building technology for their own sake, what is the point?

Hoppean Argumentation Ethics is air tight, there's nothing to debate.

>newfag
>not libertarian
pick one

Libertarianism =/= anarcho-capitalism. We would still have a strong military.

Right.

(I): Both libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism endorse disallowance (not mere 'regulation') of violating private property. Thus --- in libertarianism --- when pollution is violating someones' property or person, a legal case is brought against whatever organization is polluting and a governmental court exacts propitious restitution for all parties harmed. This is better than bureaucratic regulation which often forbids innocuous activities whilst excepting polluters from paying full restitution. The process is identical in anarcho-capitalism except courts and enforcers are private and polycentric.

(II): In Techno-Commercialism, a sovereign company governs a micro-state and prevents private courts and enforcers from engaging in Hobbesian warfare whilst providing a sovereign court of final appeal.

This.
Ancaps are memeing contradictory retards.
Libertarians are reasonable people, and even if I don't agree with them 100% I respect their ideas.

Are you actually Nick Land?

How would you ensure that though?

>Your ideology has no base in either morality or nature and is thus utterly worthless.

Morality is a meme.

>Making money and building technology for their own sake, what is the point?

Intelligenesis and autonomatization of capital.

So many libertarian gets in this thread. They are truly beloved of kek

National sales tax.

>Morality is a meme.
/nupol/, everyone.
>Intelligenesis and autonomatization of capital.
Can you defend the validity and worth of these ideas instead of just giving buzzwords?

The alternative is stupidity and humanism.

Should abortion be legal?

Hardmode: no pussying-out answers like "leave it up to the states" the answer must be yes or no with a moral foundation

Yes because it kills niggers and white trash.

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if there's a nigger on my yard should i kill it or enslave it

If he was violating NAP: what ever you want.

I'd love to continue, but I can't even keep my eyes open. Good night, and rethink your fundamental values when you get a chance.

I still don't see how:
>National sales tax ⊢ Strong military

Also, how would you enforce the payment of said sales tax? And why sales? What is there to stop you from taxing other things?

I know its an unpopular as shit idea and americans would never accept it but fuck many of these roads, fuck cars, and fuck the oil cartels. Its all way too overrated. I dont think we should get rid of all of it but they could tone it down. Maintenance on roads and things like bridges is crucial but we dont need more. We could implement more things like concrete roads vs asphalt and even maglev trains. Every houshold doesnt need a suv per person. Its at least encouraging to know Tesla surpassed Ford this year. People commuting more with bikes wont hurt either. Also consider we have the internet so commuting to work for many jobs is fairly redundant. A shift in the transportation industry needs to happen.

>Also, how would you enforce the payment of said sales tax?

Sovereign police.

>And why sales? What is there to stop you from taxing other things?

It is the most just tax.

Ancaps/libertarians are the right equivalent of the egalitarian leftists.

Just like leftists you're probably a middle or upper middle class white, who's lived mostly surrounded by whites: kind, polite, honest, trustworthy, hard working, etc. Just like leftists you've therefore assumed that everyone out there on this planet is like that. Just like leftists you've come up with a model for society that doesn't factor in and in incapable of dealing with deviations from the norm. The only difference between you and a leftist is your take on the role of government.

Just like leftists you are willfully blind to human nature and outright refuse to acknowledge that out there, somewhere, there is (not might be, IS) someone ready and willing to abuse the structural weaknesses of your system against you: in a leftists egalitarian democratic utopia that is shitskins outnumbering and outvoting whites out of power; in a right libertarian utopia that is foreigners banding together against the individuals free men - even if you physically remove shitskins and commies there are still foreign governments (=people banding together, willingly or not) ready to overpower you and your little city state, seizing whatever resource you have that might benefit them.


tl;dr it's been tried before [pic]; it didn't last