Sup Forums - COMMUNISM GENERAL

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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gommies.gom/starve/
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gommies.gom/ohshid/
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gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
livejournal.com/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
livejournal.com/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
msta1913.org/
utravioletholocaust.wordpress.com/
moorishsociety.org/
kfc.com
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/1848/nazi-manifesto/
fascists.org/reference/archive/hitler/works/1938/09.htm
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/sw/
fascists.org/reference/archive/hitler/works/decades-index.htm
fascists.org/reference/archive/hitler/selected-works/
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/1884/origin-family/
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/1914/mar/11.htm
youtube.com/watch?v=2hJWlKk4oas
vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/jared-trump-trump-campaign
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

OP is a massive faggot. Digits confirm.

Hi comrade!

Hello comrade ,let's raise some class consciousness in this reactionary hole

kys op

>give me your redpills /leftypol/
Specifically, the work you do is always worth more than what you are paid, because the capitalist can sell whatever it is you produce for more than you were paid in wages. The productive forces of our society are controlled by a tiny elite instead of by the people, so what ends up happening is that millions of proles sweat their lives away while the porky bastards windsurf in Hawaii.
To put it in terms you might be more familiar with, capitalists are the ultimate welfare queens.
>my stance on hatred of jews and niggers will never change.
To say that your position on any topic will never change is to declare yourself to be beyond reason. That said, those "jews" and "evil niggers" are your natural allies regardless of what you think about them, because they are being exploited just like you are. The leftist position on racism is as much about pragmatism as it is about a commitment to equality.

The basic gist is that capitalism is inherintly broken.
Companies want to make as much money as possible which means paying works the smallest amount possible.
Eventually workers can't afford to buy things, meaning the whole system collapses.
Currently with automation we are going to see a huge loss of jobs that will make the concept of full employment obsolete - so who is going to buy things?
Communism isn't some grand fucking conspiracy about race or western civilisation - its just a question of economics.

sage.

FUCK OFF COMMIE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Oh fuck off fag, no one here wants your commie shit

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

Why should I pick communism over national socialism?

Kys commie scum

When will you T_D shills leave already?

It's not about T_D plebbitors, every single sane person would reject your wretched ideology for human failures.

((()))
when will you stop shilling on NATSOC general threads

SIEG HEIL
BETTER DEAD THAN RED

sterf

hail our people

Communist nigger.

the why don't you just die?

Hello cucks. This general is for the discussion of Cuckoldry, the ideology of revolutionary open relationships and sexual desire.

Cuckoldry is the next stage of relationship following the monogamy.

What exactly is cuckoldry according to cucks:

>Cuckoldry is a stage of relationship in which the reproductive means of the wife are bull-owned, and husband gets to bed not in order to have sex with her but to prep the bull.
>Cuckoldry in it's full form is a pleasurably degrading, bull-worshipping relationship that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a relationship cuckoldry teaches us that we must replace the standrad marrige, which is controlled by the husband and a wife, by a cucked relationship, which is controlled by the bull. Then, a period of prepping follows in which the bull is pleasured by the cuck. When the bull class has been prepped, there will be time for wife to get mounted by the bull, and eventually the functions of the husband will become indistinguishable from the functions of a porn shot fluffer, and his genitalia will 'wither away' as Marx said.

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livejournal.com/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
livejournal.com/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

the bourgeoisie are the class which owns the means of production but does not use them
you can think of the means of production as anything 'used' to generate profit e.g. a factory, a shop, a car, machinery, etc
if you own means of production but are self-employed, and do not employ anyone else, then you are not bourgeois
if you do not literally own means of production but in effect control it, you are bourgeois (e.g. CEOs who do not literally own their companies, but as they run the company they 'own' it in the sense that they decide what is done with it, they decide their own wages, etc)
a good litmus test:
''1. do you work for a wage?
2. do you get to decide your wage?
3. do you get to decide anyone else's wage?''
if yes to 1 but not to 2 or 3, you are not bourgeois
if yes to 1 and 2 but not to 3, you are petit-bourgeois
if yes to all three, you are in effect bourgeois
if you do not work for a wage at all, but rather own the means of production directly, then you are absolutely bourgeois

If you own a small shop that you run for a living making 50k USD a year you are petite bourgois. If you are a heart surgeon making 150k USD a year but you work for a hospital and you aren't in charge of hiring of firing anyone you are fully proletarian. Labour aristocracy maybe but still proletarian.
It is not a question of income, but a question of ones relationship to the means of production.

did they miss you at the last school shooting?

yo KANGZ an KWEENZ. Dis general iz for da takin of da past of BLACK MELANOID MAN

Back in da day WE WUZ KANGZ we travel da stars and oda planetz in our space MELANOID ships an shiet.

Woke thingz u need to now to be WOKE

>Dr. Seuss, dat cracka with da rhymes iz da prophet of Satan
>Honkeys wuz made by black science manz as soldiers for fightin our wars for us. But dey rebeled. But ANCIENT BLACK MELANID MAN was wise an shiet and gave honkeys tiny dicks so honkey bitches will allways prefere a nigga.
>Rapture will be raptors (like dem dinosaurs) fallin from da sky and eating honkeys.
>Star Wars an Predator? Tottaly happened. Stay Woke.
>Da Earth is eampty inside an shiet.
>Aborted babies don't be dyin. They are flushed down da toilet an live in da sewers.
>Honkeys drink ya blood.

Resources a nigga need:

msta1913.org/
utravioletholocaust.wordpress.com/
moorishsociety.org/
kfc.com

>Wahhhh no one wants to be a commie
>T_D shills get off (((my))) board, REEEEEEE

Fuck off leftypol.

wow, that's too edgy for pol bro

>the bourgeoisie are the class which owns the means of production but does not use them
That's hilarious. Go fuck yourself.

Commies go back to plebbit.

Proponents of capitalism argue that the real living standards of those on low pay are better raised by allowing the whole economy to grow. As it grows, those at the bottom of the social heap will benefit from wealth that ‘trickles down’ from the top.
The falsity of this argument can be seen by looking at the figures.
The long term rate of growth of the UK economy is 2.5 percent per annum(1993).

How many years would it take a woman earning the median wage to get up to £300 per week at this growth rate? The answer is 30 years: check it on your calculator. Socialist redistribution could achieve directly what would otherwise take the better part of a working lifetime. With socialism the employee can have her cake and eat it too. She gets a once and for all rise in income through redistribution, but economic growth does not stop, so she will continue to enjoy rising earnings year by year.

>>Aborted babies don't be dyin. They are flushed down da toilet an live in da sewers.

das efx ass niggas

Daily reminder that utopian forms of government will never work because humans are scum.

Back to the_donald leftypol, you lost this board ages ago

Max WOKEpill
>Sup Forums was originally a board wer us wise blacks had intelligent talks n shiettt, but then da WHITE MAN took over by spamming his evil Pepes n using OUR MAGIC KEK against us (kek is Egyptian nigga, stay woke)!

We gotta keep spamming dat BLACKED porn to turn these whitey kids inta cucks for da race war

Hello Ubermensch. This general is for the discussion of Fascism, the ideology of revolutionary nazism and national socialism.

Fascism is the next stage of humanity following the weimar stage.

What exactly is Fascism according to Nazis:

>Fascism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is owned by the state, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet the needs of the reich.
>Fascism in it's full form is a absolute white society that follows the maxim "gas the kikes."
>To achieve such a society Fascism teaches us that we must replace the Jewish state, which is controlled by the Jewish race, by a national socialist state, which is controlled by the White race. Then, a period of race struggle follows in which the Jewish race is gassed by the White race. When the Jewish race has been completely vanquished, there will be only one race, the White race, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Hitler said.
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/1848/nazi-manifesto/

Fascism uses a philosophy called white supremacy, see here:
fascists.org/reference/archive/hitler/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Fascism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/sw/
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/sw/
fascists.org/reference/archive/hitler/works/decades-index.htm
fascists.org/reference/archive/hitler/selected-works/
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/1884/origin-family/
fascists.org/archive/hitler/works/1914/mar/11.htm

>but economic growth does not stop

LMAO

So you ever stop and reread what you've typed and realize how stupid it iall is and how retarded communism is

>Ubermensch
>Fascism
lol negro you are ignorant

>oh ho we promised eternal economic growth and people could earn more and more money
>I know! Let's just print more money!
Sounds about right

back in the summer of 72' i learned communists make excellent compost.

I was driving home after a long day at the office and at a busy intersection, a bunch of coons, chinks and pasty fat kids were blocking the road with communist propaganda signs and an arm-link fence. this was the 4th time in 3 months. it was time to do something about it.

I got out, walked to the back of my car, and tore my license plate straight off. I then got back in, put on my driving shades, and hit the gas. the shrieks of terror and the thumping of their now-dead bodies colliding with my vehicle were the stuff of nightmares. apparently the sight of so many of their members being killed in the line of duty scared off the rest of those filthy stalinists, because before i knew it, anyone whose head was not splattered against the bumper of my car was now running for the hills, screaming all the way.

I had no idea if anyone had called the police in the ensuing panic yet, so i rightfully decided to book it. as i was running to the back of my car to try and reaffix the license plate in case any potential cops on the way home took notice, i thought to myself, "i can't walk away from something this big without some kind of souvenir." At first i thought id take one of their signs, but that would be too big to hide. Then i saw it: a severed hand, torn straight from the arm of some red cunt. At this point, i decided i'd do something interesting with it. You see, i had a small chili plant i kept on my windowsill that i felt hadn't received any type of nutrition for a long time, and seeing how worthless communists inherently are, i decided it was time that one of them was given a purpose in life. I wrapped the hand in some tissues, and when i got home, i lifted the pepper with all the dirt out of the pot and placed the hand at the bottom. to this day, those are the damn best tasting peppers ive ever had.

Fuck off you leftist kike, commies and marxists are just as unwelcome as the_donald plebbitors.

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They don't do any labor with them but they still profit off of others using them. The bourgeoisie will be far wealthier than the workers using the means of production that the bourgeoisie only profits from cause their name is attached to it and the state said it's okay apparently.

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I never understood how a classless society was supposed to function. If someone produces a good that not very many people want to buy, surely they should earn less than a person who produces a good that a ton people want. That's how you avoid wasteful surpluses and critical shortages. It played a role in the whole '32 Soviet famine deal.

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hello comrades

i envy my northen brothers

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Communism fails always.

Who doesn't

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The history of man is a history of class struggle.

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How do we bring BLM to europe fellow comrades?

Бaмп для ты, copaтник.

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Best Korea women look like women and not plastic sex dolls.

Communism is the only ideology where the workers overthrow the aristocracy...


only to establish a new, more detached-from-the-people and less ethical one in its place.


One of my fetishes is the Soviet Union reforming so I can go poach Russian pussy and convert her to Natsoc or a better idea that actually works in general.

Lol Barcelofag probably thinks porn actresses have natural good looks too.

>Oh well eventually there will be a revolution I'm just gonna wait for it
>Uh... communism is the opposite of capitalism? And uh Marx's definition of capitalism is that so uh the opposite of what he says.

-Every /leftypol/ Marxist I've ever talked to

K

Why does your dogshit system always fail and end up in a totalitarian shit hole?

B-b-b-because it's not TRUE and HONEST communism.

CAPITALISM IS UNFAIR AND UNETHICAL AND UNCHECKED GROWTH IS BAD


(also psst newfag put sage in the options field and your post doesn't bump the thread)

good red is dead red
youtube.com/watch?v=2hJWlKk4oas

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some questions:

do you believe class is more divisive than race/nationality

why do you think any form of communist economics (especially anarchism) would work when none have proven to thus far

why are modern commies such fucking faggots

captcha: select the helicopter. fucking kek.

See this infographic. I'm okay with prefixing it with some ethnic cleansing if you think it's necessary first.

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Hitlerism would be great, but it does nothing to prevent porkies from exploiting us.

That is why I went NazBol.

It doesn't exactly provide a detailed overview, but I notice some tenets intersect with fascism, which doesn't exactly surprise me. Fascism is really just a juiced up form of communism, you should look into it.

Now that's something I can almost get behind.

Communism is gay technocracy is a better utopian ideology

Nice script for the OP to paste the pre typed response for.
Let me break it up for you two.

>Are classes divided more by race or nationality?
Nationality, is that even a proper question? There were successful black entrepreneurs (descendants of house niggers, I know) in the early 1900s in the U.S.

>Would communism work even though no real life example has thus far?
No, it requires everyone to just get together share wealth and land and sing koombay-yah.
Humans are greedy, there will always be a structure to society and there will always be withheld personal wealth.

>Why are modern commies such faggots?
It started with the hippies. They know damn well communism is a pipe dream but they'll ignore reality and never want to find a real solution to society's problems. Same with Marxists in general.
They in fact do more damage more often than not.
I mean most of /leftypol/ probably wear Nikes and use Apple Iphones and think either company is a supporter of their "plight" somehow.

Not to mention none of the modern commies are members of the working class. They know nothing.

You know what Hitler did when porks exploited their employees? Seized the company, seized the porker's personal effects, then sent the pork to a labor camp for a few months or exiled him.

>Nazbol
Even /leftypol/ doesn't like that shitty meme.
Bolshevism will always connote the whole idea of killing and starving peasants, even the ones that helped your revolution.
Stray from that kind of stuff.

He's not really communist but what do you think of Melenchon who is about to win french election ?

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Can you comrades please tell me why pic related is a good thing?

How do factories in Venezuela operate?

>Specifically, the work you do is always worth more than what you are paid

Of course it is, the capitalist supplies land and equipment.

Did you see yourself as having some right to go and work in someone else's factory, and take 100% of the value of what you produced, whilst giving 0% to the owner of the factory?

Why the fuck would someone build a factory then? Why would someone hire an accountant to keep track of expenses and reporting?

However, in pretty much all companies YOU GET PAID MORE than the owner. Salary expenses are normally 2-5+ times the amount going to the owner.

Besides, you can already take your money and build a factory for your commie friends if you want, and share it like you say. But you don't want to do that - you want to force OTHERS to give up THEIRS, instead of starting your own company. Steal other companies into commie feedstock, instead of building your own with your own money and that of likeminded.

Trump had better shills than Leftypol

Kushner bankrolled Project Alamo

vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/jared-trump-trump-campaign

We know all about MediaMatters, CTR and ShareBlue etc....why don't we know more about Project Alamo? Because Kushner shills here didn't want us to, maybe?

>"Nearly a year ago, according to Businessweek, Kushner laid the groundwork for a social-media juggernaut and fundraising operation that could later be mined for all sorts of useful, profitable personal information. Tapping a network of Trump-friendly technologists in Silicon Valley, Kushner enlisted Brad Parscale, a San Antonio marketing strategist who sports Trump ties and Zegna suits, to run the campaign’s digital task force, dubbed “Project Alamo.” Parscale’s 100-person crack team reportedly spends $70 million a month to take people who are leaning toward Trump and turn them into the candidate’s most ardent fans. At the same time, Parscale’s San Antonio-based team is engaged in a wide-ranging effort to discourage Democrats from supporting Hillary Clinton. ...For the people who do support Trump, the team has figured out how to reach them on Facebook and keep them hooked, even after the election is over.

Remember

>even after the election is over.

They never left. /ptg/ is their colony.