>Baby Charlie's 'devastated' parents sob in court and scream out 'no' as judge rules doctors CAN turn off their son's life support 'to let him die with dignity' >Parents Chris Gard and Connie Yates sobbed and yelled 'no' as ruling was made >Couple left upset judge has not 'at least given Charlie the chance of treatment' >Mr Justice Francis ruled with a 'heavy heart' but says he should 'die with dignity' >Charlie's parents will now appeal the 'devastating' decision, their lawyer has said >Doctors and nurses say there's little difference between him awake and asleep >His parents made repeated tearful pleas to judge to let Charlie go to America >£1.26million raised for Charlie's treatment could go to charity set up in his name
>Heartbroken: Charlie's heartbroken mother Connie Yates is comforted as she leaves the High Court today after a judge ruled that her son should die rather than fly to the US for treatment
Jace Davis
The kid is braindead. They should let him die.
William Lee
Why should the government make that decision?
Isaiah Torres
The government would spend money subsidizing his """life""" either way. They already have.
Jeremiah Wilson
>would spend money subsidizing Not if they didn't fund health care at all Also the family raised money to come to america
Leo Baker
feminists don't care about this because babies aren't human beings according to them.
Elijah Sanders
Not every child that is born, lives.
Even now, in this era of macho medicine trying to force the opposite in the West.
Jeremiah Turner
Free market healthcare doesn't work. It never has and it never will.
They raised the money but the judge agreed that prolonging the life is causing undue suffering to the baby. It would be cruel to keep him alive.
Nathaniel Hill
Why doesnt it work? If you want health care you pay for it If you dont then you dont have to
Jordan Sanchez
What if you do want healthcare but can't afford it?
Samuel Campbell
What if you want a private jet but cant afford it?
Oliver Morales
That's some massive goalpost moving. You won't potentially die without a private jet.
Instead of answering the question, you've done the same thing most do, deflect from the question.
Isaiah Fisher
If you want something you have to pay for it Welcome to reality
Benjamin Anderson
Deaths happens eventually. Why should healthcare be a guarantee?
Hudson Campbell
What about the roads you drive on? What about the fire department, police, school, etc?
If you're too poor to pay taxes for those things, you get them for free.
Healthcare should be deemed an essential service.
Henry Miller
It's not goalpost moving, he's saying that you just don't get it if you can't afford it
Nicholas Rivera
What condition has the kid? In my village there was 2 kids with some fucked up genes and they set up a charity to send the kids off to NY for treatment which there was no hope it would save their lives.
They ended up getting millions to send them to NY and the kids died regardless.
The father in the mean time has been caught scamming and faking hake crimes.
Luke Howard
It's morally correct to treat the sick and dying.
William Morris
You have to pay gas taxes for roads If you dont drive you dont pay Police and fire are community services They enforce laws and contain fires Also plenty of rural areas do not have paid fire departments We shouldn't have public school
William Peterson
Ok then treat them or pay for someone else to do it Nobody is stopping you
Kevin Flores
Eh, that's subjective.
Owen Rivera
So lets see if I got this right. Baby has brain damage and some condition that will most likely kill it. No doctors in the UK can save it. One doctor in the US says an experimental treatment MIGHT save it (but there's no proof just his claim), BUT the baby will still have the severe brain damage. So if the procedure works it'll still basically be a fucking vegetable with "no difference between being awake or asleep". AND on top of that, doctors think the baby is currently in pain. >"'The US doctor also confirmed during this telephone conversation that he had never treated with nucleoside therapy anyone who had encephalopathy, therefore he was unable to indicate from any scientific basis whether a patient with encephalopathy would respond positively." >'There is no evidence that nucleoside therapy can cross the blood/brain barrier, which it must do to treat RRM2B, although the US doctor expressed the hope that it might do so.
'There is unanimity among the experts from whom I have heard that nucleoside therapy cannot reverse structural brain damage.
They're prolonging the baby's life out of their own selfishness and fear at this point. it's never even going to be a real human... does it even have brain activity? I do truly feel bad for the parents - my dad got sick, heart stopped, they revived him at the hospital but he was brain dead with 0 chance of recovery. We had to make the call, it was hard but the other option was just having this human shell on life support for an indeterminate amount of time.. the fuck kind of living is that? There's no person left at that point.
Eli Foster
Ok but if they raise the money why stop them from going to America?
Daniel Barnes
What if you want healthcare but your government decides it would be better to just kill you, as in this case? It's a bullshit verdict by a system designed to kill people in order to save money.
Unless you believe in divine right then yes all morals are subjective (although often grounded in natural truths).
Luke Bailey
I can't find it right now but there's a website by a legitimate well known actual doctor where he concurs that they have dozens of different ways to declare you "brain dead" just so they can harvest your organs for money EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW that given time you will recover and are not ACTUALLY "brain dead"
They have LEGAL LOOP HOLES to declare you braindead when you are not at all.
Luke Hernandez
infowars.com?
Jason Cruz
GOOD LET DEFECTIVE BABIES DIE STOP POLLUTING THE GENE POOL AND COLLECTING MY CASH TO KEEP ABSOLUTELY USELESS DEFECTIVE SUBHUMANS ALIVE
FUCK OFF
Lincoln Mitchell
This is what happens when government takes over healthcare.
Dylan Moore
Cleans out the gene pool :)
John Bennett
This is what happens when you wait until you are in your 40s to have kids. Stop relying on modern medicine and have kids in your 20s retards.
I had 4 kids with a woman in her 20s, none of them needed comprehensive intensive care to keep them alive. None of them are full blow retards.
Knocking up a woman in her 30s is risky. 40s is a retard/death sentence for your kids.
There's a reason why men are naturally attracted to young women. Knocking them up produces healthy children.
Oliver Myers
According to the law of nature, let the weak die.
Hudson Smith
No not their bullshit.
Isaiah Davis
That's another thing entirely. People gave away their money for them to go fly over an do a treatment that in all likelihood isn't going to work.. even the fucking doctor never did it before on a person with this condition. From the article it seems more like he wants to do it because it'll provide useful scientific knowledge, treating the baby like an experiment, rather than him thinking he'll he able to save it.
I'd like to see the fundraiser to see how the parents worded it - was it truthful that there was almost no chance of the procedure working or did they word it that "we need to go to america to save our baby"? The money should go into something more productive like a charity or hospital or back to the people who donated. This is just like those crazy encephalitic cases where the baby is LITERALLY BORN WITHOUT A BRAIN AND WILL DIE WITHIN 0-2 MONTHS but the parents still push for life support and crap.
Gabriel Collins
What if you potentially have a brain tumor but die from it while waiting for your MRI scan that's months away?
Kayden Diaz
was it a polish family? someone I know from ireland told me about some case of deformed polish babies and a big charity drive
Alexander Allen
One of the ways they can declare you braindead is by a simple breath test. If they take you off the breathing machine and you can not breath on your own, you are "braindead" giving them the legal authority to kill you. Simply because you could not breath on your own yet.
Wyatt Miller
stupid parents - you don't deserve a medal for having a baby that had severe medical problems. Let him/her go to heaven and BTFO
Jordan Brooks
Not an argument.
Eli Adams
Gene pool's closed
Camden Gutierrez
Depends on what you mean by weak. Someone who is defective from birth and will never get better, just let it die and start over. It's best for everyone.
But if it's a normal, functional person who just got sick then it is well worth the time effort and money to treat him.
Did you know that most downies are born with a defective heart and require heart surgery as babies just to keep them alive and prolong the sad mockery of humanity that they are? That's why you never see downies in poor countries, they die like they're fucking supposed to.
Hunter Scott
NEVER mark yourself as an "Organ Donor" you are opening yourself up to be improperly declared brain dead so they can sell your organs if anything ever happens to you. This is something that really happens especially in states like Arizona.
Aiden Robinson
organfacts.net/ Do not become an organ donor they will kill you.
Lucas Clark
It is a baby, make a new one.
Defective babies should be thrown out unless it is minor. Only takes 9mo to replace.
Adrian Ward
No. Don't start over. You are a failure. At that point you are like the african woman who had 7 babies die from starvation and are pregnant with the 8th hoping this time it works out. If you're a man get a younger woman, if you're a woman you failed, give up, kill yourself or at the very least quit voting and die quietly keeping your beak out of everyone else's business.
Joseph Bennett
Dad rescues ‘brain dead’ son from doctors wishing to harvest his organs – boy recovers completely
Because apparently, the government has more sympathy for white children than you do.
Ayden Lewis
wtf was the health problem of the kid? mother probably had a shit lymphatic system, ate gmo food, and never thought about eating raw fresh ripe fruits and vegetables without glyphosates and other pesticide shit. you deserve to watch your child die if you can't give up animal products and grain for a fucking year to ensure the proper development of your child. fucking subhuman garbage.
Brody Scott
Is it morally correct to throw money ((resources)) at the already dead? Those resources come at the expense of other ((living)) people being treated
Hudson Sanchez
>Free market healthcare doesn't work. It never has and it never will. In the US at least healthcare gets more expensive every time the government steps in and exerts more control over the industry. If you look back, health care was most affordable when the government was the least involved.
Obviously new technology has had something to do with it, but costs are still increasing even in areas that haven't really changed for decades.
Price-hiding due to insurance hasn't helped either and is arguably just as big of an issue.
Andrew Brown
REDPILL: They improperly declare organ donors braindead all the time to harvest their organs. Do not become an organ donor.
Jaxson Reyes
refugees come to Europe >oh the poor children! we must give them all we can to help them! white kid needs to be flown to America for treatment >fucking privileged little cumskin, i'm giving you a fourth trimester abortion
Logan James
You know you get treatment in the US too, right? We don't turn people away if they can't afford it and it's critical.
Cameron Gutierrez
This is why you have more than one kid. Eggs in a basket of one, etc. It's savage, but that's life.
Carter Garcia
This. You should have 6 kids so that you'll be fine even when 1 or 2 fuck up. I'd say a good 1 in 3 are fuck ups anyway.
Ian Foster
I found this red pill after signing up like a gullible goy. How do I retract wanting to be an organ donor?
Ian Reyes
Simply visit the DMV and tell them you want removed from the organ donor list. That's what I read somewhere.
David Robinson
Are you in the Laois area? Something similar happened here.
>In September 2011, a 19-year-old man injured in a car wreck was admitted to Nassau University Medical Center. He was still trying to breathe and showed signs of brain activity, the suit charged.
>But doctors declared him brain dead under pressure from donor-network officials, including Director Michael (((Goldstein))), who allegedly said during a conference call: “This kid is dead, you got that?” the suit charged.
Christian Roberts
I honestly don't blame some poor Laotian peasant for stealing the money. The dude has been farming turnips for 50 years and suddenly sees more money in a few months than he's collected in his entire life. That kind of temptation can fuck you up.
Landon Parker
>>£1.26million raised for Charlie's treatment could go to ((((charity)))) set up in his name Good, poor refugee children need it more than some fucking white racist larva
Elijah Young
UK will spend millions on muds, but a white baby...yeah, fuck that.
Destroy your government Brits. Or it will continue destroying you.
John Reyes
Gotta pay for the refugees and probably the upcoming big war somehow.
Levi Wilson
>(((Goldstein))) Amazing. It's ALWAYS the fucking Jews. They control the organ harvesting market too.
Logan Sanchez
The judiciary system is entirely separate from both parliament and our executive.
Nicholas Stewart
>all these retards ITT defending keeping brain dead patients alive
here is what happens when you have non-public healthcare:
15-year-old Jahi McMath from Oakland was pronounced brain dead in December 2013 after complications following three procedures intended to correct her sleep apnea. Her mother and lawyer are at the forefront of the campaign to keep her alive. After taking over the waiting room at Oakland Children's Hospital and claiming medical malpractice, the family moved the body of the child (financed by Schiavo's brothers' foundation) to an undisclosed location for private care.
Over the last two years, a finite amount of photos and a handful amount of videos have been released by Jahi's family, mainly her mother, Naliah Winkfield. Naliah has become somewhat infamous to some for being essentially blind to what is glaringly obvious. They have had their lawyer, Christopher Dolan (kek) rally up five doctors to 'claim' that she has "some brain activity." Photos of the child's hand appear to show signs of necrosis, she was documented as passing parts of her intestinal lining with bowel movements last year, and must be covered constantly with blankets to keep her temperature up because her hypothalamus is, obviously, not in effect.
Some mysteries: >Jahi has started menstruating. This is used by some to "prove" she's still alive.
>Why her eyes are covered half the time, and why she has no eyelashes.
>The state of her body hidden beneath the covers and the excessive amount of filters on photos and suspected photoshop.
>Videos from the girl's mother showing movement of the extremities "in response" to the mother's voice.
I would never give my organs to an obese Burger anyway.
Oliver Bennett
Here's the photo of her hand where signs of necrosis are visible. In other photos of her hands it's clear how her fingers have begun to curl inward and down, as well as her toes curling down. Her fingers are swollen at the base and appear puffy but then become quite thin at the ends.
William Gomez
>Parents Chris Gard and Connie Yates
>different last names
Let him go.
Zachary Robinson
I declare BULLSHIT. That's just how fat nigger lady fingers look. I've seen plenty of them when I visit clerks at places such as the DMV. They have fat fingers that are really thin at the end. Those look like normal nigger hands 100%
Ethan Myers
>all parents who don't eat organic fruit are sub human garbage who deserve to watch their children die. ummm, wut ?
Wyatt Harris
Holy shit
Brayden Martin
Americans are idiots.
You spend more than every other country on Health as a % of GDP. Yet you have no Universal quality covergae to show for it.
>Why should I pay for someone else. You absolute Burger.
You pay the most for drugs - Even before Obamacare - and the most for coverage.
You are literally cucked as a nation because you think Basic Healthcare is >Muh Communism is Socialism.
Enjoy having your medical balckmail; Can't vote out a Company that controls your healthcare.
Bentley Johnson
This. Organs are worth thousands of dollars. Of course some corrupt doctors/hospitals will sell them old rich jews
Ian Long
USA: >Against Muh Abortions >Refuse to look after Human Beings.
Charles Hughes
>what is lodge practice before the AMA
Socialist Healthcare doesn't work. it never has, it never will.
Jaxson Cooper
>le armchair physician has arrived
Tyler Reed
This. Fuck America, the Jews, and nonwhites in general. Second Holocaust when?
John Reyes
A maternally inherited condition called mitochondrial DNA depletion syndrome.
Ryan Hall
Why is it working great in all of Europe then?
Parker Anderson
damn kiwi just because she is black doesn't mean she is brain dead
Juan Jenkins
This quote is stupid. The retard doesn't even know what civilised means
Brody Ramirez
Re read the first post you fucking retard and then kill yourself for being so stupid
Elijah Morales
Hmm I wonder why no one can respond to my post with a sincere refutation.
John Martin
What's the problem?
Aiden Jones
>120614462 Meanwhile Trump appoints a strongly anti-Euthanasia Supreme Court Justice
Fuk I wanna move south.
David Reed
why would someone defend someone who is clearly braindead its stupid
Eli Miller
The kid has a genetic disorder where HE CANNOT MAKE NEW DNA. He is completely and utterly fucked.
Even the American doctor said that any treatment would NOT be a cure. At best they could use him for testing some new drugs to see if there's any temporary effect.
He's completely fucked either way so it's pointless. Medical professionals are telling the parents to end his suffering.
Private health companies would want to shaft as much money as they could from the poor parents first.
Landon Roberts
The child was beyond fucked though, serious genetic disorder, brain dead, probably for the best not to prolong it's suffering.
David Taylor
Ultra rare disease that even my genetics book lacks info on
Oliver Ramirez
Need I point out that the Judge is an OBVIOUS JEW? I know a Jew when I see one.
Carson Rivera
>why would someone defend someone who is clearly braindead >its stupid So many potential jokes here.
Camden Russell
>In my village there was 2 kids with some fucked up genes a village in Ireland with only 2 irish kids?!
>faking hake crimes did he say he was battered?
Jeremiah Thompson
Of course a parent cannot be impartial about their child's life. I almost want to say they shouldnt even have a say in a matter like this but i dont want the government killing people.
Wyatt Garcia
he looks nothing like a jew.
Ryder Bailey
Yeah, none are mine are full blow retards either, just assholes, but I'm assured that's genetic from my side.
