So my best friend is on the side of the chink but I'm on the side of United...

So my best friend is on the side of the chink but I'm on the side of United. This dipshit should have gotten off the plane when he was told to.

How do I convince him he is wrong and I'm right?

I'm not smart Sup Forums pls help.

give me your ass , im telling you to

Clearly you're not smart. The gook was in the right. United fucked up big time.

It's like in a game of civ
Both of you are going for different victories
You - legal, your friend - ethics

legally, the man has zero case. when you agree to a company's policies (which you do by buying the ticket), you're fucked.

it's a PR nightmare for United, and they're idiots for not disallowing random passengers on the plane to begin with, but dude has no case

he's visibly bleeding from the mouth for not giving up the seat he paid for, he has more than a case - he has millions in settlement money coming

Op is a cuck and a fag.

Legally?
Is that why Untied are begging for Mr Miyagi to contact them before he Lawyers Up?

You don't because you're a bootlicking faggot who loves to take it in the ass for the corps.

He paid for that seat before he got on and it's United's fault for not booking their own flight correctly.

I would've been furious too if I got kicked out of a flight I had already paid for because of the company's stupid mistake.

He was a doctor and was probably heading somewhere for business or to take care a patient. They should've at least picked somebody else.

Also, getting a severe beating for not giving up your seat? If this didn't take place on a commercial plane, I would've thought that this happened in North Korea.

why is this worldwide news it happened on a small flight in mid america, anyway there are many airlines to choose from.

just shows you cant trust burgers to use proportionate force

It was likely air marshals. and he refused to leave - he is fucked

he had an ass apopiontment with his toyboy ha!
but yes i agree with you.
they really fucked this guy up, on the plane and now the campaigns against him are very distructive. I feel so bad for him, I hope United goes down in the longrun for this

So you favor large companies using civil authorities to violently settle civil contract disputes?

>United fucked up big time
This

Airliners speculate that some passengers will be no show and purposefully overbook, no amount of their internal policies will override your rights as a consumer, especially not when they employ force.

get ready to eat those words user

this is america- you think that man has 0 legal recourse?
this is the same country a woman won 3M for burning herself with hot coffee at mcdonalds

Their policies don't align with what they've done.

Rule 25 part a2 iirc.

The Contract of Carraige doesn't allow for removal after boarding has occured, because of an oversold flight. It does state the allowed reasons you may be removed from the plane, his situation isn't covered, not even close.

>He paid for that seat before he got on and it's United's fault for not booking their own flight correctly.

Sure but someone HAS to get off the plane. He was randomly chosen. Too bad so sad get the fuck off you are being compensated far more than the price of the tickets you bought in the first place. Guy was just being a cunt.

Have you ever tried to forcibly remove someone from some place?

It only became violent because the customer wouldn't get off the plane when he was told to. One way or another he had to go.

He chose to be removed plain and simple.

People are dragged off planes all the time, see YouTube
This is just an attempted diversion and it's time it was put to bed

the airline would have had to offer up to 1350$ and only offered 800$ before calling the marshalls

the marshalls also did use unnecessary hard methods

if the guy is smart he can get about 60.000$ from the airline

>but I'm on the side of United.

>I'm on the side of United.

How does that jewish cock taste, kike shill?

>unnecessary hard methods

How else do you get someone off a plane who refuses to disembark?

You fucking drag that idiot off.

The coffee was served hot enough to give third degree burns, which is incredibly irresponsible for mcdicks to do. I don't know why retards always bring up this case as the hurr durr legal system when there are examples out there that aren't shit

>Supporting corporations
wtf mate

Then why was the Marshall put on leave?

Did he maybe use excessive force?

How could you be on United's side?

>sell a ticket to someone for what you consider a fair price
>accept that ticket and allow the customer to board your airplane
>store their luggage and allow them to seat themselves
>kick them off because you "need" to move some employees around
>call the police to beat the man when he tells you to fuck off

It would have cost them less than $3200+ 4 hotel stays to just rent a plane/helicopter for those employees

>It was likely air marshals
It was Chicago PD, who already tried to lie about the incident saying he "fell" when there's musltiple angles of video showing them forcing his head into the armrest

These people are called Republicans.

Actually, no. Nobody had to get off the plane if the airline had already boarded them after accepting their boarding pass, except for cause as listed in Rule 21 of United's Contract of Carriage. That's the point.

have you seen the video?
draggin him out is ok
beating him multiple times until unconciousness would be considered not appropriate

There is no "side". United has a very specific policy laid out.

>airlines overbook flights

This happens regularly and it's good business. And empty seat on a plane is lost money. Even if you gotta pay some ppl to take a later flight, it's still better than underbooking flights.

>nobody will volunteer

Then you keep upping the offer. Eventually someone will take it. You literally keep going up till they take, that is the ONLY play.

Per policy, United can refuse a seat to anyone BEFORE booking. But after passengers have boarded, United cannot remove anyone.

So they went against their policy, they assaulted the guy, and now they're gonna pay him a fuck ton of money to make this story go away.

The End.

kek.

Invite the dog eater in question to settle the debate in person. After he spikes your drink with heroin and rapes both of you faggots your friend will admit you were right and then you can both die of the AIDs.

>draggin him out is ok

No it isn't. They should have noticed they had too many before boarding everyone. Once there's too many already boarded they're not allowed to force anyone off.

A United employee can then go in and offer 400 dollars for someone to take a later flight. Then 600, then 800, and so on. Until you get a volunteer.

If we're talking technicalities, UAL was right to escort him off, but how they did it is outrageous. They should have told him that he was trespassing, and would go to jail if he refused. Then tased him in a WORST CASE SCENARIO. First thing they decided to do was bring in the police to pull him out, which is outrageous.

So just tell your friend that to an extent, the airlines were right, but how it was done, and the follow up was just gross incompetence by the airlines- with the CEO saying it was the right move and whatnot.

you sound like a boot licker OP

she needed the money for the medical treatments alone.

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lol ur dumb. You can't forcibly remove some one who paid to be there. United already claimed liability. I hope that chink sues them to oblivion.

>How do I convince him he is wrong and I'm right?
You don't, you're wrong.

Overbooking is the ultimate jewery. It's selling the seat twice.

lol

Your a fag

>overbook
why does this keep happening? the flight wasn't overbooked. it was full, and united wanted 4 seats for their own crew to transfer to the destination airport.

they de-booked and de-boarded 4 (-1) passengers, which isn't really in their carriage contract, and the compensation they offered was bullshit compared to the carriage contract terms.

United fucked up major.
I will never fly united again, opting for Delta instead and any other airline available.

Fuck these racist niggers

like i said
they would have had to offer more and the marshalls should have been informed about that fact
but generally it is within their right to remove costumers even if the costumer didnt behave wrong

What happened was fascist. United is able to force their policy on customers because the government says it's okay to remove a non-compliant passenger.

Basically the government has made it legal for airlines to pick a fight with a passenger to get what they want.

If you're okay with that then there's no real reason to argue.

>But after passengers have boarded, United cannot remove anyone.

this. the ground boarding/desk crew royally fucked up. you're supposed to play that game BEFORE you let someone on the plane.

everyone is shaking their fists at United but the truth is, there's such little choice in air travel these days (particularly for smaller cities) that this won't effect their long-term business AT ALL. They'll probably pay this guy $50k to go away and then do some reinforced training with their ground people to make sure they don't fuck up again. I'd bet the desk workers are gonna get fired too.

>A United employee can then go in and offer 400 dollars for someone to take a later flight. Then 600, then 800, and so on. Until you get a volunteer.
They did do that. Up to $800. However no on wants to pass up on it. United were greedy little kikes who didn't want to offer more, but wanted to play the kike game and overbook their flights.

This shouldn't be classified as top tier bait, but apparently it is, look at all the serious replies. Nice job, burger-san.

You stupid faggot, do you have any idea how hot the coffee was and how severe the burns it caused were? You're another one of those stupid niggers that cites that case without any idea of what actually happened.

He'll get a LOT more than 60K out of this. He's gonna get millions.

And no, they can't forcibly remove a paying customer who's already boarded unless that passenger is acting belligerent or breaking the law.

The economics of overbooking is very good for the airline industry. Even if they have to pay out a big chunk of change to someone here or there, it's a massive net gain in the long run.

You keep offering more money until someone takes it. That was their only play.

spoken like a good goy

hes not white so united is in the right

>but I'm on the side of the doctor

They can keep going and that's what they should have done. Now they're gonna get a massive lawsuit.

And a lotta ppl are gonna get fired, cuz that's the kinda thing that's supposed to happen before everyone has boarded. To prevent that exact situation.

>tfw United gets sued and the chink never has to work another day in his life
>tfw the chink spends it all on hookers and drugs because that's what he's known for
>tfw I'm just working and posting memes

> I'm not smart Sup Forums pls help.

maybe you should work on your cognitive and reasoning skills

How do we fix the US?

maybe you should work on your dick sucking skills m8

The chink seems mad shady.

First, it's come out that he's a convicted felon for trading drug scripts for sex with a dude... I don't know how he could still be a practicing dr after that.

Second, he's still in a hospital bed, when asked for what, his reply is "everything".

Third, the second video when he re-boarded the plane (?) he kept repeating "they kill me". What the fuck does that mean?

Overbooking flights is fraud. The gook was right to be angry.

How was United in the wrong?

he maybe had a concussion and thats it
there is no actual basis for giving him millions
he will probably get the average ticket price times the number of seats of the flight he would have taken plus something for his injury
but in the end people almost never get millions against companies

is delta actually better? I always fly southwest if I can. United if I have to with no other option, American Airlines NEVER. AA is the absolute worst.

American Airlines should have fired a tomahawk missile at the United plane due to the noise of the incident creating sound waves that entered their corporate space

kek.

Yes, I am.

Only a contrarian edgelord would side with a corporation that doesnt give a fuck about them.

You'd be this guy if it was up to them.

Have you ever been on a plane? I've been on like, 30 flights the last couple years, 75% have been overbooked, they're always asking people if they want a voucher to give up their seat.

are you this fucking autistic?

Pff he's a chink he deserves it

>wins the debate

They are sayin that Dr. Chao is literally worse than Hitler on the msm.

is that the first thing you thought of? another man performing sexual acts on men? degenerate scum.

United has a troubled past as well, they were involved in 9/11.

This

>United Airlines
>We beat down high prices like we beat down the Chinese
Put me on a marketing team.

southwest never does that. unfortunately their rewards program is absolute shit compared to what it used to be. of course there's also frontier/spirit if you hate your spine.

Clearly violating the NAP right there. Launching tamahawks now viceroy United!

Because they ran a successful smear campaign against her to sway public opinion on tort reform.

Oh no you're right, to be hospitalized for a few days and say you're there because of "everything" because of this minor rough up is completely rational.

Fuckin bogan

Im fucking sick of these ANCAP shitters acting all edgy and supporting united airlines. I dont fucking care that it was some chink that got beat up my racism aside the customer wasnt at fault.

Yo fucks will bend over backwards before you defend someone that is nonwhite and its fucking annoying because you even become fucking hypocritical as shit.

Doh, coffee is supposed to be served hot.

i wanna see you get beaten to a pulp by random dudes and let's see if you can even say "everything" afterwards faggot

Yes, and it's fraud.

Police are trained to be afraid of everything, that in order to take charge of a situation you must threaten violence. The problem with that is when doesn't work then you have to actually use violence. Shit like this happens.

Train your police better, get better results.

Firing counter McNuketm due to nap violating retaliation from a fair tomahawk
We'll bill you for the McNuketm and the cost of delivery
SEIG A.A.

letting them get away with this will set the precedent.

This is such a retarded post but I still laughed

Most of my flights were with United, I still got like, 11k miles to use, but the program blows. Their onboard entertainment has gone down to shit as well. I don't wanna defend United, but I like their planes better than American's or Delta's.

I've never flown Southwest but I've always heard good things

Did Jewnited go too far with their response?

>legally, the man has zero case. when you agree to a company's policies (which you do by buying the ticket), you're fucked

You're fucking retarded or autistic, take your pick.

He not going to prosecute over the fucking seat, he going to prosecute over the violence.

Chink fag violated the NAP. This was a just response. You faggots are so desperate to have the government fix all your problems aren't (((you)))

Meh in order to see who is guilty we have to see what the contracts were and the terms of the agreement.

The airplane is their property and they by default have a right to kick whoever they want off it.

Of course that doesn't mean they should, but still.

Fuck united.
They had made a sale to this guy, a contractual agreement, that he met his obligations to.
If they wanted to get someone to give up their seat they should have offered a higher compensation till someone gave theirs up.

Can please somebody explained what happened?

Unwarranted physical agression = big settlement.

Their contract is $1,350 before air marshalls can be called - they antied $800. Their contract also states that he was within his right to refuse as he had boarded and was causing no breach in clause such as harassment, etc. They also used excessive force on a 69 year old man, who explained to them he had to get home to his patients as he was a doctor.

They were in the wrong and I'm glad they lost $800m for a mistake that will never happen again - unless they're retarded. Hopefully this gook sues and it cements the notion that airlines must respect their own rules like the passengers must respect them. If this was a white man with a MAGA hat Sup Forums would be more tolerant of him, but since he's a gook we use our bias on minorities. Irregardless, from now to the future this will make sure that what could have just been a negative of $1,500 to appease a person to get off, it turned into $800m public relations fiasco.

i swear that woman appears everytime something somewhat controversial in the world happens so she can scream STTTTOOOOPPPPPPPPPPP OHHHHH MYY GOOOOOOOOOOOD STOOOOOOP

american is garbage, I always wind up on some shitty MD80 that should have been scrapped 20 years ago, or a CRJ tin can. Southwest has newer 737s and the seats aren't bad unless you are fat.

They lost 800 milions USD that day

This is common. Happened last November.