So after years of not filing my taxes, my "wife" (not married under a (((state))) certificate) persuades me to file this year. So I go, and they fuck me. Now I owe thousands of dollars. WHAT THE FUCK? I do not take anything from the government, not a cent in food stamps, I pay my own medical insurance, no government handouts or anything. These communist faggots still take money away from my checks regardless. Who the fuck do they think they are telling me that I owe them money to support some nigger sucking the white man's dick for free gibs?
I'll drop one: The 16th amendment was not properly ratified to be effective under law. Read the law that never was.
This is literal taxation without representation.
What about muh road tax, ect- Yeah, that's why I have to pay a PROPERTY TAX OF MY OWN FUCKING PROPERTY TAX. Seriously, what the fuck man?
James Morales
Here is more: A year ago, the IRS sent me a letter. They sent it to me through certified mail, which meant that I had to mosy on over to the post office and sign for it before the (((clerk))) could even tell me what it was. This is fucking sheisty to the next level. I vow to never file taxes again, never sign for a "package" or "letter" at the post office of which I never was expecting to receive, nor pay another cent to these fuckheads again(besides the forceful take of my check).
Ryder Evans
Btw, I notice a lot of shilling on this board, besides the trump circle jerking and meme garbage going on, that there are not many /pol oriented folks here that know much about their masters. Talk about the (((Jews))) all you want, focus on the tools that are enslaving you and making them more powerful i.e. The income tax. A literal tax that fucks your harder when you work harder.
Jonathan Ross
Remember the next time you are working your ass off, you are literally working to pay the nigger you hate so much
These maggots try and justify the means for sucking the lifeblood of honest hard working citizens.
Cooper Watson
>Who the fuck do they think they are telling me that I owe them money -->Did your house burn down? No? The government pays for fire departments to prevent that with your taxes. -->Did someone rob you? No? The government pays for police departments to prevent that with your taxes. -->Do you drive on the roads? The government pays for roads with your taxes.
Face it, your just a pissy freeloading bitch.
Camden Evans
they levy these taxes already off of income and whatnot demanding more after you file is heinous
Ryan Gray
>roads HIPPITY
Tyler Morris
If it makes you feel any better I got a $4600 tax return between state and federal.
Michael Cox
you mean the guy working next to me?
Connor Richardson
My house didn't burn down because I'm not careless and burning fires inside my house.
Police do not "prevent" robberies , they show up afterwards(in most cases)
I pay for my roads with my MUNICIPAL tax, faggot.
You must love the cock inside you, huh?
Matthew Price
you need to adjust your allowances son
Nicholas Carter
your municipal tax pays for interstate highways? thats pretty sweet.
Xavier Hill
Lol, think of it as giving the government an interest free loan, which they paid back. But they will INTEREST YOU, If they seem fit to think you owe them. Again, I don't mind paying taxis and being well represented for it, I do mind getting my wages and other EARNED income taken from me to feed Tyrone and his 7 kids for nothing.
Colton Collins
>But they will INTEREST YOU
Brandon Reed
you mean you gave them a 4600 loan with no interest over the last year
Henry Wright
>Pay income tax, it's taken from my paycheck >Go to buy something from a business that pays many taxes >In order to by the goods they were taxed for buying, my taxed money is taxed again >In order for the business owner to take that money home, he must pay income tax on the money I gave him. WHAT THE FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Alexander Wright
>not having money to pay for the government at least you're not in europe
Jack Perry
You use public roads
Lincoln Flores
HOPPITY
Ryder Butler
Stfupissy
Jace Richardson
Gas tax. Not income tax.
Aaron Perry
>after years of not filing my taxes weak bait
Jaxon Campbell
prove it
Daniel Cruz
True story. Pics?
Nathaniel Roberts
...
Aaron Bell
what we have in Cali can't be called "road". I want my money back
Jackson Morales
And I'm never filing again.
Bentley Martinez
Meanwhile in Puerto Rico, they do not pay income taxes. But they fill themselves up with our taxpayers money.
Connor Hernandez
Unless you're working off the books, are a NEET, or are making so little money you wouldn't be taxed, it's just retarded not to file because you're giving them an excuse to do this kind of shit to you by not filing.
If you can live off the grid in a cabin in the middle of bumfuck nowhere though, then by all means stop dealing with the gubmint.
Colton Anderson
I too thought this was bait. Now I realize OP is truly a moron. I thought ancap was just a meme.
Leo Collins
Income tax is not capitalism, fool. It is straight up socialism. I don't really know what I should picture, other than that I filed on Saturday over at the aarp place.
Nathan Price
the government, in exchange for your taxes, does services for you such as: run the police run the fire station build roads make armies build rockets offer loans regulate the economy etc
that's what they use the money for
Lincoln Evans
We were doing fine without the INCOME tax up until 1913. What happened (((user)))?
Elijah Peterson
They also: Feed Tyrone and his seven kids, all from different baby mamas. House Tyrone and his niglets. Put money in Tyrones pocket so he can sell drugs. Give Tyrone affirmative action so he can btfo evil whitey. Keep going?
Colton Scott
Exactly. You are expressing ancap.
Zachary Reed
The banks own the bonds that the government issues out by means of interest fees. By paying an income tax, you are feeding the banks to grow bigger. I agree in Paying taxes, just it on my hard earned income. Jeez, don't you people read?
Austin King
the federal government used 'muh national defense' to force the interstate highways on to the public's tax burden. we don't need the federal government to pay for interstate highways.
Charles Rodriguez
GET OFF
Ethan Nelson
yeah we can just get people to give donations to some sort of central organization that could manage them all for us. brilliant, we should get right on it.
Cameron Mitchell
That's was supposed to be a "per state" desicion, not a federal one.
Oliver Barnes
>or are making so little money you wouldn't be taxed
Should still file anyway. If you make under a certain amount and file you're guaranteed to get most if not all of it back and it covers your ass against any future fuck-ups.
Brody Brooks
Were you w2'd, self employed or what type of work do you do and what records are there?
Benjamin Perry
>Be Canadcuck >pay shit ton in income tax >high as fuck taxes on goods >high as fuck prices on every product >BUT MUH HEALTHCARE
fuck this place
Blake Thomas
W2, why the fuck do they ask my "occupation"? Should have told them I was a transgender apache attack chopper prostitute. What a fucking joke the IRS
Isaac Flores
If you don't like how America works, don't live in it bitch.
Xavier Garcia
Yeah, I'll just start my own country right? Cunt.
Hunter Campbell
>(besides the forceful take of my check)
Which they will get you for. Eventually. However you should always file your taxes even if you don't intend to pay. They have 10 years from the point you file to collect that cash from you. Which they will do by taking your paychecks before they even get to you. However if you shift jobs a lot they take awhile to find you again and you can maybe get away with not paying back everything you owe. The feds are relentless about their taxes, they will find a way to break you eventually. You should also file because otherwise they file FOR YOU and they always file super high for you in your absense. They literally had me filed for twice my income and twice the tax penalty and were charging me double interest than what I should have been paying until I filed my own return and fixed things. Also that registered letter means they're tacking on 20% for failing to respond to that letter within 90 day (I think). Oh and they charge you 9% interest on everything you owe them.
Not a tax lawyer, but I did manage to fuck myself pretty hard on taxes that I took a while to work clear of.
Nathan Collins
There are plenty of other countries you could move to.
What I never understood was: >Customer spends money at a company, pays sales tax >Company reports revenue, pays tax >Uses that money to pay employees, pays payroll tax >Employees collect payment, pay federal income tax
Every transaction is taxed 3 or 4 fucking times
Jaxon Gutierrez
muh
Christopher Scott
pay up goy
Michael Ortiz
You pay the gubmit because you live under their roof and by proxy have their full protection. Instead of whining about muh taxgis you should buy a boat and find your own god damn island.
Evan Thomas
>be self employed >not have medical insurance >get fee'd 620 for it >get marketplace commie insurance >$400 a month >wtf? >be healthy. As fuck. >decide not to go on with rapesurance >next year get fined $849 for not having rape in ass insurance
But muh subsidies- Who's going to pay for that? The government! AND WHO IS PAYING THE GOVERNMENT??? THE TAXPAYER!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Nathan Johnson
>It is the month of August; a resort town sits next to the shores of a lake. It is raining, and the little town looks totally deserted. It is tough times, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.
>Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town. He enters the only hotel, lays a 100 dollar bill on the reception counter, and goes to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one.
>The hotel proprietor takes the 100 dollar bill and runs to pay his debt to the butcher. The Butcher takes the 100 dollar bill and runs to pay his debt to the pig raiser. The pig raiser takes the 100 dollar bill and runs to pay his debt to the supplier of his feed and fuel. The supplier of feed and fuel takes the 100 dollar bill and runs to pay his debt to the town’s prostitute that, in these hard times, gave her “services” on credit. The hooker runs to the hotel, and pays off her debt with the 100 dollar bill to the hotel proprietor to pay for the rooms that she rented when she brought her clients there.
>The hotel proprietor then lays the 100 dollar bill back on the counter so that the rich tourist will not suspect anything. At that moment, the rich tourist comes down after inspecting the rooms, and takes his 100 dollar bill, after saying he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.
>No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt, and looks to the future with a lot of optimism.
don't be a kraut schlomo at the fed needs his earns
Aiden Wood
Iran sounds nice. No income tax there.. and those death to America parades.. hmm
Brayden Rivera
Protip: never give tax advice unless you actually know what the fuck you are talking about
Gavin Bailey
>not using a combo of Jewish and nigger trickery to avoid taxes altogether
If taxation is theft there's no reason not to steal it back
Zachary Collins
1) Wrong. Local utility/property taxes pay for that. NOT income tax. 2) Wrong. Local utility/property taxes pay for that. NOT income tax. 3) Wrong. Fuel tax pays for roads. NOT income tax.
0/3. Clearly a degenerate millennial who's never owned a fucking thing in his life.
Jayden Cooper
Summary of thread: I want all the benefits of living in the greatest nation on the planet without having to contribute to the prosperity of that nation
Fucking liberals...
Benjamin Richardson
You forgot the imposed interest, kaiser
Samuel Mitchell
What is it with all the dumb shits in this thread. "You use the roads, you use the police, you use ...."
NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE ARE PAID FOR VIA INCOME TAX YOU IGNORANT TWATS.
Every single one of those things are paid via taxes you CHOOSE to pay upon purchase of merchandise or property.
INCOME TAX is straight up fucking theft.
God fucking DAMMIT do schools teach anything anymore??
Carson Murphy
As a CPA, I can tell you have no idea how any of this at all works.
Enjoy your thousands in interest and penalties because you wanted to be an edgy faggot and not follow the law.
Ryan Taylor
The USA had NO income tax from 1776-1913 and became a manufacturing monster and military superpower.
GTFO you statist shill.
Jack Evans
>run the police >run the fire station >build roads Thats PROPERTY TAXES you retard
Aiden Johnson
They teach muh holocosts now. That and some algebra I think.
Nicholas Jackson
I don't file/pay income taxes either and I give not a single fuck. I work for cash and my savings are in tangible & untraceable assets.
Fuck you and your thieving whore government.
Cooper Carter
How do you live with yourself knowing your profession and daily way of life is (((lying)))?
Charles Williams
>WHY DID YOU FILE NIGGER YOU HAD NO LIABILITY UNTILL YOU COMMITTED PERJURY!!!!! BY CLAIMING TO BE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL .
Your cun't wife is probably fucking a dozen men on the side
John Carter
>years without filing taxes >astounded and outraged when the amount owed added up
kek
Flat out, you're taxed for the fact that you live in a country with free speech and the right to have a weapon. Not only that, it holds a military, and uses the funds and the force of that military itself to deter and if need be fight a potential threat against itself, and to keep itself from falling apart into petty balkanized fractured shitty states that wouldn't let you talk shit about them, wouldn't let you have a gun, and wouldn't let you come onto a site like Sup Forums to whine like a stupid little bitch.
Jaxon Gonzalez
Explain this then, faggot.
Austin Rogers
>Flat out, you're taxed for the fact that you live in a country with free speech and the right to have a weapon.
He could LIVE IN MEXICO, as a Mexican national, and File that he is a U.S. Citizen and OWE the "TAX" see COOK V. TAIT
Robert Perez
I live fine thanks.
Lol, ok dude. You think your situation is not a matter of time until you're fucked for that? Both the IRS and State tax authorities have forensic teams that find idiots like you by the dozens every week. There is nothing "untraceable" about anything you could be earning. Delusional.
Brandon Butler
The funny thing is, half of the years filed they "owed" me. Literally have the balls to say they "owe" me or that I "owe" them from my own fucking labour which had nothing to do with them in the first place.
Brody Gutierrez
so what happens if i get audited and cant pay it
im being hit with tax evasion even though i dont work
Isaiah Myers
Do tell me how the fuck you trace cash, dipshit? I don't use banks.
Brayden Diaz
GO TO SEDM. ORG AND SET YOURSELF STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW FUCK THESE NEETS AND SHILLS.
Connor Baker
What's really jewy is if you don't file for a bunch of years, then file all at once. . . the years they 'owed' you. . . you don't get that money. Too late. If you don't file within a year they keep it. They years you owed THEM though? That shit never goes away.
Juan Cruz
Did you make under $9k? If you did, you don't need to file but you still need to report it if you file jointly.
All the Youtubers are going to be completely fucked when they hit old age. Since they made $0 through a job, when social security kicks in, they'll be given practically nothing to live on. People who are on minimum social security are the old people you see buying bags of dog food to live on. They have a life of living in roach infested public housing, eating dog food, and getting the bare minimum medical treatment with surgery being practically out of reach. This is the same life that NEETs will have. Its no wonder so many of them commit suicide after their parents die off and they are alone.
kek
Ryder Powell
Adding to this.... If you have a certified letter/package sent to you that you have to sign for, you can see who it is from. They give you the attempted delivery slip which is supposed to have the senders name on it. You are not required to sign for something before you see who it's from. If someone tells you that you do, ask for the postmaster or supervisor. It's your mail you have the right to do whatever you want with it.
As for the why IRS sends letters certified it's bc they send it both ways - Certified and regular first class. All lawyers, businesses, etc, send important documents both ways so if you don't sign for the certified, it'll get sent back as unclaimed. If they don't get the regular first class letter back also that means you did receive it and are now legally responsible.
Nathan Peterson
And how could it be verified the amount due is what it is? No, there are some people that won't pay. And I am one of them. Fuck you. Go tell Tyrone that his welfare check will not come in this following 15th. Nigger.
William Cox
>He could LIVE IN MEXICO, as a Mexican national, and File that he is a U.S. Citizen and OWE the "TAX" see COOK V. TAIT No shit. Americans and Green card holders are taxed on world-wide income. That's how the law works. Don't like it? Leave. Your citizenship is a contract.
Your image is fucking stupid. We do not live in your shitty libertarian fantasy. We have governments. Get over it for fucks sake.
Josiah Diaz
Growing population. Changes in the cost to be able to hold up as a first world country. Modern military tech costs a shitton more. In order to be able to afford the infrastructure, and to afford the defense, you gotta demand more shekels. So, more shit needs to be taxed.
I won't pretend I agree with the way the taxes get spent or used, but crying because income taxes themselves have caught up to you is fucking stupid.
Zachary Hughes
The Federal Reserve, the IRS, and the Anti-Defamation League were all set up in the year 1913.
Lucas Campbell
Cop-out bullshit answer. The only thing our taxes are really needed for is all the goddamn social welfare to pay for the endless breeding of niggers and spics.
Carson Howard
It's going to be glorious seeing what becomes of my roommates when they are old for this exact reason
Parker Nguyen
Pretty ironic, you calling someone else "jewy" with how much you're crying about your shekels
Joseph Myers
Face it, every "pro income tax" idjit in this thread is too stupid to research or realize that actual design behind the system - mega banks who loan money to governments for their pet projects while using their citizenry as collateral.
It is the modern day equivalent of slavery. And you braindead fucks just go with the flow.
Sheep.
Alexander Phillips
Social security does not equal 401k bud. Plus Medicare (especially niggercaid) is quite effective (without much BURDEN to the insured)
William Anderson
Come on, it's jewy as shit. If you file for taxes and they owed you 1k one year, then the next you owe them 1k. . . . they just magically forgive what they owe YOU (without your consent) while demanding you still pay what you owed them.
Jace Clark
I did you stupid fuck and guess what I live in Illinois, I didn't renounce my Nationality as a Citizen of the United States of America, I requested My Domicile be changed to Illinois, I Resigned the SSN I never requested or asked for, I Am Ineligible for a Drivers License so I drive around with a placard that says NOT LIABLE, I have a W4 that says not valid without attatchment that defines all terms and I check the BOX EXEMPT.
If you cant refute My simple diagram stick a burning match up your asshole
Henry Hall
If you assume it to be a mutual relationship with financial equilibrium, you are very wrong.
If you are stable, you become a provider under the gibs system.
Gabriel Russell
this.
Ayden Cooper
You have regional representation in many forms though.
It's just a shame that it's majority-binary representation now.
Nicholas Foster
AM I BEING DETAINED. I AM A FREE TRAVELER SIR. DO NOT TAZE MY NUTS SIR, THAT IS AN IMPROPER USE OF THAT DEVICE.
Aiden Gutierrez
I'm around people who have to rely on Medicaid/Medicare for medical treatment, and when it comes to surgical procedures that are not life-threatening, good fucking luck because it will almost not happen. If your knees are completely gone, they will hand you a wheelchair and tell you good luck.
Social security is also extremely limited in all aspects. Generics that are not always equal to name-brand, limited treatment amounts, limited medications. Social Security is also not just disability - it's living wages for those who hit 65. Its what you pay into if you work, and what you get is according to what you've paid into it through your life. You need to look into what social security is, because yes, it is like 401k. 401k is something invested through workplaces which allows those who retire to have more than extremely basic social security income when they get old. both go hand in hand.
Jonathan Edwards
*hard earned shekels, not free gibme shekels.
Ian Collins
*hard earned shekels, not free gibme shekels.I appreciate the info though. On both sides there is some info that I have not seen on this board before concerning INCOME THEF- I mean TAX. Not many threads On said topic(or am I missing something?).