Regarding Abortion

Regarding Abortion.

You can't force a women to become a human life support machine for 9 months. It doesn't matter if your the Pope or Tom cruise. One can not force a women into being pregnant for 9 months.

>but its a human
Its a clump of cells

>but it will become a human
Its not a citizen. Citizens have rights, humans and fetuses don't.

>women can just keep their legs shut
Sex is fine. You shut-ins should try it sometimes.

>sex has consequences
We have modern technology allowing us to cede the laws of nature


You people are literally autisticly screeching over something that is not physically related to you. Grow the fuck up

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you are actually right, although it's a bait thread

I think you got it all wrong. As long as abortion continues to disproportionately affect minorities, most of Sup Forums is fine with it.

>>but its a human
>Its a clump of cells
Same as fucking leaf

>It's a clump of cells

So are you

>It's not a citizen

It still has natural rights

>sex is fine
Sex is great but there is a risk/reward to all descions. Actions have consequences

Abortion is one of the greatest forces of good in our modern era and the only realistic means by which eugenics can be practiced

Abortion has eliminated one of those those consequences

>natural rights
Modern governments give rights to citizens not to human for the act of being a human

You would be very correct IF and only IF it was like that all over the world.

From what I know, africans are proliferating like rats in the sewers, more niggers than ever, and the white race has been baited into what you pointed.

repent

A FUCKING LEAF

>One can not force a women into being pregnant for 9 months.
maybe you're right, we should have her charged with murder for killing her child, or paying someone else to kill her child in the womb though

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If an infant in the womb is just a clump of cells, why aren't you just a bigger clump of cells?

If people are just clumps of cells, and it's okay to kill something that's a clump of cells, why can't we just kill anyone we please at any time?

its not a citizen

Only citizens can be murdered

We should kill canadians
>but it's a nation of peaceful people
it's a clump of leafs

>but they will become human
who eat poutine

>women leafs can just stop reproducing
they elected Trudeau because they thought he was hot

>Leafing has consequences
we have mods

>but its a human
>Its a clump of cells
That's what humans are yoy retarded faggot. You're a clump of cells and so am I. It is objectively a human by definition and you literally cannot disagree, it's not a matter of opinion.

>Only citizens can be murdered
under strictly legal terms, but there's still the moral aspect
if you intentionally kill an innocent person in a land with no laws, would that not be murder? (it would)
they're undocumented citizens

Do unborn fetsus deserve the same rights as illegals?

neither are citizens, neither are "people"

>Only citizens can be murdered
Wow I didn't realize murdering tourists was legal. Thanks fellow leaf.

Quality

They deserve greater rights than illegals, provided their parents are citizens.

If their parents are illegals, they deserve the same rights, ie none.

is this napoleons thread?

Maybe if women didn't only fuck the most sociopathic of males more people could have sex and would care about your muh abortion rights. Also why not just take birth control or use a condom you hedonist?

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women loves sociopaths, true story, they could reek of shit and have unwashed balls but they will still get pounded out by them and then cry to anyone who happens to be within earshot about how they cheat on them and treat them poorly. women are fucking stupid, it doesn't make me want to become a fag, but it does make me want to hit them. they really have zero repercussions for being such filthy cum dumpsters other than maybe having an unwanted kid, but that's really just an incentive with the way welfare works.

A fucking leaf...

>Its (sic) a clump of cells
Every living thing is, including you.

>Its (sic) not a citizen. Citizens have rights, humans and fetuses don't.
Human's don't have rights? That sounds a little odd. Citizens of what? Anything? Any nation? Any non-nation? What defines a citizen and why is it so important? What if you are a citizen of a nation that doesn't give a fuck about your rights? That line of reasoning doesn't really check out.

>Sex is fine. You shut-ins should try it sometimes (sic).
Slandering people doesn't make their views less valid. Also, if sex and cumming inside bears with it the potential of pregnancy, then it's NOT fine. Not because there is something wrong with pregnancy, but because that's a repercussion of sex. Sex = babies. That how that works. If you don't want a kid. Don't have sex. Don't do harness-less rock climbing if you don't want to risk falling. It's simple. Having sex isn't a necessity. Susy can get by just fine without murdering children.

>We have modern technology allowing us to cede the laws of nature.

So what? We have modern technology to wipe out everyone on the planet. What does that mean? Why is that significant? I know this is bait, but come on. I really hope no one actually thinks like this.

Holy shit you are literally retarded

Aren't niggers and spics the ones getting most of the abortions? I see no problem with that, we have an overabundance of dindus and mexican jumping beans.

>You can't force a women to become a human life support machine for 9 months. It doesn't matter if your the Pope or Tom cruise. One can not force a women into being pregnant for 9 months.

True.
But will they willing consent to sex that results in them being pregnant, that was their choice.

that'd surprise the fuck out of me, about the spics. they have kids to increase their gibs me dats, I regularly see ugly small mexican women with 3-4 kids trailing after them with their wic vouchers at stores. our system is so broken

Higher abortion rates now, means decreased crime rates later.

>Aren't niggers and spics the ones getting most of the abortions?
no

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States
>60% of all abortions are performed on whites

Your cells are on committed lineages due to growth and stimulatory factors. They're no longer pluripotent. Fetal cells are not until roughly week 2. Even by week 3 only the trilaminar disk has formed.

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Im actually ok with this if man will be able to leave woman with child without any consequences and we as a society wont support financially single mothers.

>birth control eliminates consequences

But is that a good or bad thing for the individual and society as a whole? Also technically speaking consequences are entirely eliminated either.

>modern goverment

Chronicogical snobbery is a fallacy user. Also The United States does use civil rights obviously but also founded on natural rights. That's why even non citizens are entitled to certain protections of the constitution when in its jurisdiction.

>Sex is fine. You shut-ins should try it sometimes.
wow thats not a fucking argument if a women gets pregnant she should be forced to deal with the consequences

You can't force people to pay for it either.

damn time to go take potshots at you retarded canucks on the canadian border

If women have the right to abort then men should hve the right to not be squeezed for child support

The Clumps..

I'm against abortion for the sake of spiritual reasons, but if I were an atheist, I'm sure I'd support abortions.

>faulty condom has micro-tear and woman gets pregnant. Not the consenting party's fault
>rape
>poor person doesn't understand proper birth control and you would rather they raise their doomed to fail child

ya, pretty sure you're a bitter virgin.

Why do liberals love infanticide so much?

Abortion is forcing then not to be.

The unborn fetus is violating the NAP

>what is day after pill

Canada unofficially belongs to the U.S.A. Canada is no longer a safespace for dodging taxes

>governments give rights

Nope. They take them away.

>faulty condem

Nothing is 100% guaranteed. Taking steps minimizing risk doesn't mean the risk is gone

>doomed to raise a fail child

Youre right any potential failure of an innocent child mean they don't deserve to live anymore...

Canadian genocide now

>You can't force a woman to be human life support
They made the choice to ignore contraception and get pregnant. They ignored all possible options for avoiding pregnancy. They don't have a right to concieve life and then destroy it with these options available.
>It's a clump of cells
That will grow to be a child, like you are a clump of cells that will grow into an old man.
>it's not a citizen
Ethics are universal.
>Sex is fine
Not if you kill the HUMAN after the fact. Use contraceptives.
>technology allows us to cede laws of nature
Not philosophy.

This is literally not debatable.

Indeed, just like you can't prevent Tyrone from raping and murdering at an epidemic rate.

But you can still put both of the murderers in prison, lad.

Thats true. Governments put themselves in power under the guise of public safety, then convince the population that we gave them that power. Critical thinking is something a woman cant do.

>government gives rights

this ass-tier thinking is why the world is so fucked

people don't lose their right to life just because a politician somewhere writes a law that they must now be killed

rights are innate

the government merely tries to control them

please save the world and kys

It is ILLEGAL to collect rain water in the U.S.A. Landowners will be arrested and fined for collecting rain... thats your GUBMENT fag

Not in all states.

abortion is cheaper than the welfare and eventual penal costs to house the unwanted.

having a child by force also doesn't magically make the mother a non-slut angel parent, they are still a cock-gobbling whore who gets a free paycheck from muh gubbament.

"just adopt" is also bullshit. the overwhelming flow of unwanted and abandoned children only lead to a riize in sex slavery and sexual abuse of these kids.

It is better to let the kid go w/o suffering that force it to live that kind of life.

aborted babies don't burn in hell.

Only in ass-backward (read; liberal) majority states

Nobody is forcing anything. Bitch agreed to it by getting pregnant in the first place.

Or are you implying the 'underlying social contract' applies only to men?

>Partial birth abortion.

What?

Even if you were right no one wants to listen to you because who would ever want to be like Canada?

>Regarding Abortion.

>You can't force a women to become a human life support machine for 9 months.
Wrong.

>>but it will become a human
>Its not a citizen. Citizens have rights, humans and fetuses don't.
>We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and...
>secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity...

>>but its a human
>Its a clump of cells
So are you. That's all a human's physical existence is.

>>women can just keep their legs shut
>Sex is fine. You shut-ins should try it sometimes.
Within marriage it is.

>>sex has consequences
>We have modern technology allowing us to cede the laws of nature
We have the technology to make everybody weak stupid cripples that need machines to live. It's not just that sex has consequences, it should too for man's betterment.

> You people are literally autisticly screeching over something that is not physically related to you. Grow the fuck up
wtf I love child sacrifice now

Oh wait I do. Just for good reasons, whereas you love it for bad and retarded reasons. You are a cuck.

Abortion is murder

did you even read my comment, retard?

>but if I were an atheist, I'm sure I'd support abortions.
I doubt that.

it's where they pull the live baby out only partially (head is still in) and then jam scissors into its neck to kill it

you have to have discipline to not go around like that.

>Cheaper than welfare
>Child bearing doesn't automatically make the parent a hard working angel
Just because it's cheaper for the tax payer doesn't make it ethical. Nor is every woman who has an abortion a useless mongrel dog shit of a person that contributes nothing.

>just adopt
At least the HUMAN child will have it's opportunity, it's choice. Something you'd want.

>It is better to let the kid go without suffering
Euthanasia is only applicable, morally, to children practically braindead and in a vegetable status-- not engaging the world as an actual person. A healthy unborn child's life isn't your plaything and it's not your decision to make. Some of the greatest minds come from the worst shithole family units. This is not your decision to make-- if anything the child will simply kill itself in 15 years.

>You can't force a women to become a human life support machine for 9 months.
untrue

A fetus can't think or feel, who gives a shit what happens to it. Quit being a sensative faggot

No one forced you. You made the choice to spread your legs. I agree with abortion in cases of violent rape but not regret "rape"

>kill it
i meant "kill them"
important distinction

That sounds unnecessarily cruel and inefficient. At least saltwater is cheap and saves the effort.

>One can not force a women into being pregnant for 9 months

no one forced the dick in her snatch. Take responsibility for your actions

sensitive* you fucking mongoloid

so if you're unconscious, it's ok to start cutting pieces off of you and eventually beat you to death with a crowbar, because I drugged you up enough to the point where you won't be feeling anything when I do it?

prochoice makes zero logical sense, unless you think murder is ok

>stop having strong moral convictions that that literally spawned civilization!
Thanks, Schlomo

>You can't force a women to become a human life support machine for 9 months

Being a male the state see's me as a minor and female support system. Is this an injustice? Should we abolish alimony and child support since its immoral to compel one to support another?

so its fine to use it as birth control when birth control exists?

>You can't force a man to become a human ATM for 18 years. It doesn't matter if your the Pope or Tom cruise. One can not force a man into paying child support for 18 years.

As long as you also agree with this, you're not an inbred subhuman retard.

>One can not force a women into being pregnant for 9 months.

This is 100% true.

Just like no one can force me to not go out and kill the first person I see walking on the street.

All anyone can do is punish me after I harm another individual.

>sex is fine
No sex isn't fine. I think sex after marriage for the soul purpose of procreation is fine but anything else should be OUTLAWED

>it's where they pull the live baby out only partially (head is still in) and then jam scissors into its neck to kill it

Yes. It's called a partial birth abortion. Its been banned in the US.

>You can't force a women to become a human life support machine for 9 months
Why yes you can if you kill her or torture her for aborting cancuck.
>One can not force a women into being pregnant for 9 months.
If i lock a woman in the basement for 9 months i can sure can.

read the chain of replies you mongoloid

>a woman can't be forced to be a human life support machine for 9 months
>of course, a man can be forced to be a woman's and a child's life support machine for 18 years

KEK

That's actually really disturbing. That's way too late.

Aren't humans a clump of cells? What's your point?

subhuman baboons like this OP actually exist?

>flag
ah

Evil foul child murdering genocidal Soros cuck op

>Humans don't have rights

The leftist position in a nutshell, folks

>go have sex
>then abort the child
A fucking leaf

After weeks without Sup Forums you think something might have changed, but no. Not around here...

A FUCKING LEAF is still A FUCKING LEAF

should people not be "forced" to act as life support machines for their one-year-old babies?
>forced to feed them
>forced to clothe them
>forced to house them
sounds unfair, they should just leave them in dumpsters

>reproducing is racist if you are white!

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Ok, but if I want the bitch to abort muh babby and she doesn't want to do it? It's just a clump of cells, but 50% of that shit is mine and I don't want to pay child support to this nigga.

In brazil leftist imbeciles are trying to pass abortion laws.
In stupid ass "only 50% admits to using condoms", "my body my rules" (10 different contraception options) corruption ridden, awful medicine practices and hospitals, horrible brazil.

Dumb sjw's are the same everywhere. They want everything without a single shred of a consequence or rational decision making skills.

grow up

>Citizens have rights, humans and fetuses don't.
Right... I'll just hack onto the Canadian civil registry and delete your citizen registry, then I can kill you because you lost your rights. Fucking read a book for a change, leaf.