Is it okay for someone to work 40 hours a week and not be able to survive on their own?

Is it okay for someone to work 40 hours a week and not be able to survive on their own?

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forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/04/05/seattles-2-9-unemployment-rate-tells-us-nothing-about-the-effects-of-seattles-minimum-wage-rise/#73833b4768b8
twitter.com/TBPInvictus/status/849635003675889664
cnbc.com/2015/01/26/working-more-than-50-hours-makes-you-less-productive.html
lengstorf.com/overtime-hurts-productivity/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1869544
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17293756
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OY VEY GOOD GOY DON'T RAISE THE MIN WAGE! U MIGHT GET 2.9% UNEMPLOYMENT, STRONG WAGES AND A BOOMING ECONOMY!

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I work for a corporation.
I work usually 60 hours per week
I make 100k
Fuck anyone who thinks 40 hours should be a whole work week. I swear the drive is all but gone in this country

When the billionaire globalist shillcucks of (((pol))) fight this hard against raising the minimum wage, you know it's a good thing for workers.

>literally who

If you're so incompetent at working that you only make minimum wage working at a McDonald's, you deserve to be miserable because all of the people that make more money then you earned it and you can't expect us to pay for your failures.

Yes.

Now grow up and get a grown up job.

You can survive on 16k (minimum wage) a year. It's not pretty but you aren't going to starve or freeze to death.

I did it for almost a year.

>that edited publishing date
That seven is fake as fuck
Link.

YES, GOYIM, THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN INCREASED WAGES AND PRICES RISING ACCORDINGLY. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE BUSINESSES THAT LEFT SEATTLE WHO COULD NOT AFFORD TO PAY $15/hr WITHOUT DOUBLING THEIR PRODUCT COST TO COMPENSATE IN ORDER TO STAY IN BUSINESS, YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THIS FUCKING LEAF WHO LIVES IN A BUBBLE AND HAS NO REAL KNOWLEDGE OF ECONOMICS BECAUSE HE IS CORRECT!!!!

i make $11/hr by doing work anyone could do, what's your excuse for working at mcdonalds, a job that's only meant to be an entry to the workforce for teenagers

OBAMALEAF, I SUMMON THEE

I don't understand why someone who only has the skills to work at McDonald's would want to live in expensive cities like Seattle or San Francisco. They have McDonald's on much cheaper places to live.

you can survive on the minimum wage if you live a minimalist life. the problem is that niggers have kids when they're teenagers and want to buy themselves iphones. if someone mismanages their money and isn't able to survive, that is their fault

If wage regulations work and create prosperity then why aren't France and Sweden the world's leading economies?

You know that it might be a time for you to learn a more marketable skill than something that can be replaced by a touchscreen?

Hey guys! You're all right-wing retards!

>post hoc ad infinitum
>red herring for good measure
>derps all day
>b-but I meant to do that!

I have a list of questions for you
>do you smoke cigarettes?
>do you drink more than one energy drink a day?
>do you smoke weed?
>do you drink more than 4 beers during the work week?
>do you do any other type of drug?

If you answer yes to more than 2 of these then that is why you are "Strugglin"

If liberals actually gave a shit, they wouldn't be flooding the labor market with tens of millions of low skill illegal immigrants. If the low skill labor market contracts, wages will go up.

Admit you're a right wing retard and u just got btfo by Obama Leaf.

forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/04/05/seattles-2-9-unemployment-rate-tells-us-nothing-about-the-effects-of-seattles-minimum-wage-rise/#73833b4768b8

Also, here's the Twitter exchange where your heroic (((author))) got btfo

twitter.com/TBPInvictus/status/849635003675889664

Already here. Fighting the right wing retard billionaire globalist shillcucks of (((pol)))

Seattle $15/hour min wage
2.9% unemployment rate
Booming economy

There's nothing that triggers right wing retard billionaire globalist shillcucks more.

>hates globalism
>shills for the biggest globalists

yes. banging two rocks together for 40 hours should not net you anything more than the chips off those rocks.

I HATH SUMMONED THEE

I AM THE SUMMONER OF LEAFS

If you work a teenagers job, you make a teenagers money.

That would just increase the prices of everything so it would be pointless.

Minimum wage for minimum skills. You have no right to afford one thing or another.

wait til the housing crisis comes.
you've already noticed rents raising through the roof, i bet.

jack off for one minute or 60 hours, one nut is one nut in the long run.

tell me about the demographics of Seattle

Public sector should be paid mcdonalds wages, fucking parasites

Just because you work overtime doesn't mean shit to the company or for productivity. In fact, you're only hurting it. So stop being cucked. I'm a wage slave nurse practitioner, but at least if I go to 50 hours they stop me. Unlike the British NHS who wanna make interns work 70hrs straight and then force the taxpayer to compensate for malpractice.

cnbc.com/2015/01/26/working-more-than-50-hours-makes-you-less-productive.html

Here is an engineer explaining how overtime is probably one of 5h3 worst things to happen to professions.
lengstorf.com/overtime-hurts-productivity/

I dunno, should I work hours a week flipping burgers at McDick's, and then feel entitled to food, shelter, TV, cellphones, the latest game console, a gaming computer, and spending money after I spent a fortune on a Rolls-Royce? After all, I am working 40 hours a week! Now give me my fucking money or I won't be able to survive!

Yes because they are a dumbass for working at McDonald's and thinking they will make a living. Also, they're probably niggers.

Good way look at it. Great attitude. I'm sure things are going great for you.

If you carefully manage your money, you can survive on that.

It'll suck, and you probably won't be able to afford internet, but you can survive.

>too dumb to get semi-reasonable job
>don't want to live with rural and suburban retards

>proves my point further
>this goes above its head
>it doesn't understand

Have a good one, border line trisomy 21 victim.

Yep. I'll stop at 40 hours lose my job and someone else will gladly tAke it.

40 hours is a work week. If you work more you aren't living. What's the point of wealth if you can't enjoy it. Fuck that. I rather make 20k a year and have time to enjoy it. I can buy money with time, but I can't buy time with money.

Minimum wage should be at least $15. It's absurd that people are paid starvation wages. Even I made $23 as an intern.

Personal choice and inability are two wholly separate things, user. You have nothing to prove to me, as I to you. If it makes you happy, even through roundabout means, do it. But claiming superiority for the sake of ego is not only foolish, but unbecoming.

>trying to work a job high school students are capable of doing for your entire life
Sure is. Don't reward laziness.Get rid of entitlements. Advance yourself or die.

I hate Trump actually.

Doing just enough to get by is why you'll never make it.

People who expect to live off of a normal McD's team member pay are retarded. My first job was at a McD's. My co-workers were generally dumb single moms or drug-users. I was 16 at the time and my brother worked in an industrial park a bit ways down. I told a lot of "adult aged" people they could get a job there and do much better but they were all too lazy to apply. They're scum of the Earth.

lol no. That's just what your billionaire globalist overlords program u to believe so you retards work for as little as possible because you're cucks

>Clinton and Obama aren't globalists

>people working less than 60 hours a week

What are you, some kind of faggets working in starbucks ?

>muh minimum wage

There are lots of places in the country where you can survive on minimum wage. Can't make it work where you live? Move, dumbass.

Nobody owes you the lifestyle you feel like having.

Im curious on why you would change the article date. The 7 is photographed, but i cant find a reason as to why it's even necessacery

Tell me about Temporary Foreign Workers in Canada.

Tell me why McDonalds can pay American workers $15/hour USD, over $20 Canadian. Yet in Toronto they ship in TFW slaves who work for below min wage $11 CAD or $9 USD.

Tell me why you're a fucking cuck.

So you can't "expect us to pay for his failures", yet, we pay for his failures. That doesn't seem stupid to you? How about instead of giving him free benefits, they give him a livable wage so he can buy food and healthcare without programs?

On the other hand, why should you profit from his failures? How about you pay 5 dollars for the same dollar burger then to make it fair?

The only way you can survive off that wage, is to find an illegal rent situation where you rent a garage or something for 200 bucks, then you sell drugs on the side to pay for food and car insurance, and the rest goes to bills and you barely break even.

Most people who earn minimum wage are entry level or secondary/tertiary earners.

I have my entire weekends plus 4 weeks vacay

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Yes.
If your 40/hr job isn't enough to live with. Either you are doing an extremely low skilled job, or you suck with maintaining your finances.

Mcdonalds pays 11 an hour.... lol.

It's simple economics. You raise the wage = you have to pay your employees more = to do that you have to increase the price of your products.

Do you think realistically there are enough jobs that require skills? If everyone pursued higher education then the job market would be able to hire maybe 50% of them at best. Some people need to work shitty jobs no matter the outcome.

>.cnbc.
>/lengstorf.c
>these excuses
jesus christ what is the color of your skin

yes considering there are people who are literally homeless and no one cares about helping them

You should ask your Somalian immigration minister why this is allowed.

>actually believing this.

Clinton and Obama both raised taxes on the billionaire globalists you worship and obey. That's why you were programmed to hate Obama and Clinton so much you little right wing retard.

Jesus user, I'm sorry you're retarded

In the midwest $15 is a middle class income and $23 is practically upper middle class.

You can survive on $8 here. If the minimum wage was raised to $15 a ton of businesses would just close down.

Wtf r u retards talking about? I linked the article.

forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/04/05/seattles-2-9-unemployment-rate-tells-us-nothing-about-the-effects-of-seattles-minimum-wage-rise/#73833b4768b8

Also, here's the Twitter exchange where your heroic (((author))) got btfo

twitter.com/TBPInvictus/status/849635003675889664

it's okay with the republicans

This. No public sector job is worth $10/hour to taxpayers.

I've worked 80 hour weeks during busy season. That isn't shit.

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This

Billionaire globalists got much wealthier under Obama and Clinton.

The midwest has way too much say in what happens to America when 85% of people live on either coast.

Fuck off with your flyover state bullshit.

Wow. I'm in Boston. $23 is still nothing. I don't plan on moving out until I'm at around $75k a year.

Major corporations tax evade for the most part. You think they didn't pay Obama and Clinton to do that so they can fuck up their competition, and at the same time use those tax money for shit with the power of the government?

It is NOT ok for a person who needs to survive on their own to be working at McDonald's.

So you wait to live for 2 days a week, and all year for 4 weeks?

I mean I get it, but I literally rather die than do that. Everyone i've seen that works those type of high hour high paying jobs loses a bit of their soul every year. They end up jaded and pissed off at the world then die of a heart attack.

Work days should actually 4-6 hours. We all know 25% of the work day is spent doing shit just to fill time. 12 hours living life time, 6 hours work, 6 hours sleep.

You don't get it

>mfw I'm a co-owner of a business with an old co-worker
>mfw I make more than you while working less hours
>mfw I only went to trade school for this shit

No its fucking not

Pretty much everyone got richer under Clinton and Obama. That's how it works under Democratic presidents.

I'm surprised to see right wing retard billionaire globalist shillcucks suddenly concerned about income inequality. I assume that you are big fans of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren? You must really hate Trump's tax plan.

You're the kind of guy that wants humans to eat sleep and work till they drop dead?

>haha can't afford food?
>just pay for a new house or apartment somewhere completely different with the money you don't have

Why are conservatives so bad at macroeconomics? Why do conservatives hold on to a pre-Nietzschean "moral" viewpoint that arbitrarily ascribes individual culpability to people inserted within a system that pre-exists them?

The boot-straps metaphor has no purchase in The Real World. The fact is, the higher wages are across the board, and the more affordable education is, and the easier it is to access reproductive services (e.g. Planned Parenthood), the further crime goes down. Isn't that what you people want? "Law and Order"?

Most I worked in one week was 98 hours. Cry me a river. Get to the assembly line and stop being a bitch

You don't get it. You're working in a job you hate, so every hour you're working towards that, you are suffering. Find something you enjoy doing and you'll never work a day in your life.

Im completely baffled as what to do about minimum wage. I do agree anyone working 40 or more hours a week should survive. People say raising it will hurt the dollar value, or undermine those who bust their asses at harder jobs. Personally for being the richest country in the world I think EVERYONE should make more.

All the richest mother fuckers around are investors who never worked a day in their lives.

I don't know. Guess that's why they say life isn't fair, then you die.

Yes

I worked my ass off to get to where I am today and I sure as hell didn't complain about making only $7 when I started. Your shitty Socialistic views are pointless here

Yeah, and I wonder what keeps you from checking out. That isn't life, that's actual torture.

Do shit you don't wanna do so you can buy things you don't need so you can do shit you don't wanna do so you can buy more new versions of the things you didn't need.

Alright, find a better company. I moved 1500 across the country to do it an make more money working less hours.
My mother died of skin cancer we are so white. And those sources stem from these so if you don't accept NCBI fuck off
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1869544
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17293756

Keep on being a slave to a place abusing you. I swear half of /ppl/ won't read anything

>Obamaleaf doesn't know what the Gini coefficient is

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>Is it okay for someone to work 40 hours a week and not be able to survive on their own?
Yes.

Not every single form of employment has to pay a "survive on your own" amount. Besides, "survive on your own" is highly subjective.

For some families, they can't "survive" on less than 120k a year. For some dropout living in the sticks, he might be able to "survive" on 15k a year.

All this talk of "minimums" does is drive young people and uneducated people out of the workforce. If I can't hire someone for under 50k a year, I'm sure as fuck not going to hire high school students to do easy jobs ever. Instead, I'll hire an adult and require he do the labor of 5 high school students. He'll be miserable, the students will be fucked, but you lefties will feel like the world is somehow a better place because someone is getting paid "a living wage."

I know, it's your wet dream to flip burgers for 100k a year. But that's never how the world is going to work. If you want things, you will and should, have to work for them. And if you want nice things you're going to have to better yourself through education and experience to get them.

Entry level minimum wage jobs are for high school students and other low/no skilled workers. They're not intended to be jobs for heads of households. If you've managed to start a family and need your McJob to provide for them you're already a miserable failure. You should put your kids in foster care while you attempt to turn your life around through vocational school (often free with government financial aid) or get an actual job.

>proud of making a ton of wealth for somebody else

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This graph is retarded, unemployement was already on a decline even before the minimum wage was increased, this proves nothing.

Raise minimum wage according to area across the board. so rural areas that dont have a high ;iving exspense rate don't rise a lot but urban and big cities get a strong raise.

why would this be a bad thing?