How would America go about setting up a new government in North Korea?
If these people are really under a cult like mind control,
how the hell are they going to step into the violent, pornographic world of the internet?
If what I've seen in documentaries on the country is true and not fabricated,
these people are brainwashed beyond belief, they teach their children the leader is literally god.
These people have been through a lot of psychological drama already.
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We have to bomb them and then expose them to all kinds of fucked up porn.
>(((cult like mindset)))
Yes, goy, remember that other evil person who had the Germans under (((mind control))).
If you're going to flood the thread at least bring pancakes
they're mostly not under a cult-like mind control, at least since the 90s. information has been seeping in and people are becoming increasingly aware that their government is a fraud.
They live in a world full of corruption and poverty. Documentaries are not accurate because they have to act a certain way for the camera. Real norks have abandoned socialism for the market system and see the state as a failure.
People are already starting to wonder why the government spends lots of money on military programmes whilst failing to meet its promises of food quotas, and levying obligatory work and contributions from society.
How do we know? There are north koreans with mobile phones who are clandestinely transmitting this information out.
Will it lead to a revolution. Probably not, there is still some degree of brainwashing, and people don't dare go up against the authorities. people are too busy struggling to survive. Even if a revolt started in one city, no one outside of that city would know because there is not freedom of movement.
You're comparing NatSoc to a Communist state?
you think north korea is communist?
It's the last communist state left
Go look it up
Ever since Brexit you people act more retarded every day
>Hurr you think NK is communist?
Jesus
I've read a few articles about Best Korea and they say that the generals have the actual power, but they let the Kims be the eccentric "dictators" so they can just fob off their crimes as following orders.
North Korea has a burgeoning market economy, people derive most of their income from private enterprise. There are even real-estate transactions going on there. Kim Jong Un is gradually moving towards non-collective farming and so on.
The communist aspect of the economy is mostly for show, it fails to deliver anything and mostly collapsed in the 90s.
Jangmadang markets
Even references to socialism and communism are slowly being deleted from north korea's vocabulary. North Korea is at this point some weird sort of feudal system. The 'communist' references are just a continuation of the legitimacy of the great leader kim il sung, but not actually something which are strictly adhered to since the famine. Kim Jong Il was even on the verge of creating completely capitalist cities as an experiment for chinese style reforms.
Please keep up.
I've read about this too. The mysterious OGD.
That said I wouldn't misinterpret this as Kim being their puppet. It's more that Kim is not a one man dictator, he has an upper elite circle which are quite exectuive.
>these people are brainwashed beyond belief, they teach their children the leader is literally god.
If you watch interviews with people who defected to South Korea, you'll see that that isn't true.
If we replace their government then we need to, first and foremost, keep the North Koreans in North Korea, and secondly, start opening up their economy and importing South Korean teachers and businesses.
Reunification wouldn't be possible for 10-20 years after the Commie government fails.
>give em weapons
>stick em in nigger-infested neighborhoods
North Korea is just Stalin-style red fascism, which Hitler and Mussolini both showed approval for.
>Hitler and Mussolini both showed approval for
I don't think the Asian entertainment scene is ready for the masculine gook dudes and power women with those thic Korean genes. They will literally be the best at everything due to years of living obediantly I'm hard pressed to say the world won't hold a candle to how formal the North Koreans modernised would be.
this.
they need to stay separated under a puppet southern government for a good while before they can reunify.
there would probably still be Kimist fundamentalists who could start trying to stir up shit. These people will never forget the good old days of Kim Il Sung, how good their lives were in Pyongyang, or how brutal the Korean War was. But honestly the propaganda of showing how far behind and how brutal the Kims were will whip most into shape.
Give them food, probably.
North Korea can't be communist. Communism is a global idea and disregards the nation state.
NK is clearly national socialist
>i can't stand people being happy
>bad goyim has working marriages and unity
>bad goyim needs to be on drugs
>bad goyim not buying fast food in walmart
>we need to destroy their perfection
They are homogeneous. I don't give a fuck about (((economics))).
They are the only Nation to give a fuck you to our enemies and do it without any real outside help. They are good by my book, a lot better than amexico or any shithole in Europe atm.
They know all about the the depravity, debauchery and decadence of the West which is why they have chosen to reject all aspects of it and choose not to participate in the global community, remaining purely isolationist.
>CHINA IS THEIR ALLY! THEY'RE NOT ISOLATIONIST
China view Noko as a glorified buffer zone between them and South Korea and will maintain the existence of North Korea. The reason being is so the US military don't encroach onto the Chinese border which a unified Korea would allow.
China should do it reeeee.
Most people today know it's bullshit, but they aren't dumb enough to say it on camera.
This was true maybe 10, 15 years ago. Now things like bootleg South Korean dramas are so common in North Korea that the market for them goes outright unpunished. Fear is keeping the commoners in line, with the increased knowledge of the outside world defectors and their families are more harshly punished than ever before. The ones who make it to South Korea are no longer shocked that everything they were told was a lie. Even North Korean propaganda has acknowledged that South Korea is much wealthier than the North.
Not saying there aren't loyalists, but it's more outright hate for America and it's allies than it is love for their Supreme Leader. Only one who is legitimately loved is Kim-Il-Sung. He also had the fortune of dying right before the famine.
The war with NK will be he bloodiest since WW2 or to be precise since Korean war, which was already he bloodies since WW2.
NK populace will fight for it - they are preparing and living under constant threat of Western attack for ages. Its state and nation ideology to fight off such attack and its not just bravade of dictatorial elite.
Thinking one can just remove the NK goverment and occupy the country and all populace there will welcome the "saviors" with flowers and open hands is idiotic.
Let's circumcise their children and make their leader a puppet of a literal cult. Then they'd be just like South Korea.
it can't be done because there is no internal desire to do so; what you're thinking of is projection because norks don't share your outlook on life, your values etc
what happens in sovereign country of best korear is none of american government's business anyway
Such small country, not receiving help from 99% of countries, unlike South Korea, is a thorn in world elite's butt. Now tell me Socialism isn't working. Mighty North Korea is a lion of independence.
broadcast pornography over their state television network to liberate them
Don't you realize Freedomland has a duty to impose its will on others?
You guys just listen to voices that narrate the perspective you want to hear. Like believing the 5% of "liberals" in Russia are somehow representing the country and elections need to be forged.
To explain that NK is so much worse then SK is simple - explain the populace WHY it is so: constant sanctions, blockade, making everything to make country poor. Same as with Iran for example or currently futily attempted to isolate Russia.
Seeing the "rich" SK, norks see not a successful nation - but occupied US colony, decadent and socially unjust.
>he thinks China will allow this
these aren't mad max sandniggers op
>cult like mind control
good goy
>these people have been through a lot of psychological drama already
You mean their biased media manipulating the people? Yep they definitely need to watch more Hollywood, less drama and so much more accurate
I'd like to visit North Korea one day. Would definitely be a unique experience.
sooner or later such behaviour will result in nuclear response and rightly so imo
ever since ww2 both usa and ussr governments have been acting like bulls in a china shop and it was understandable why that was so then but not any more
us government has truly become the antithesis of everything it should stand for, which is a shame because it's been designed for greatness not tyranny
>inb4 north korean refugee crisis
nuking is best option
Read this guys, to understand their psychology:
Just short tips across the border to normalize people.
>these people are brainwashed beyond belief
not really, the only ones brainwashed here is the people of the west who believes literally any false story about the DPRK. there are so many examples out there. like the "americans eating show" false translation yet every dumbass believes it.
> they teach their children the leader is literally god
again to my point above this is not the case at all, indeed Kim Jong il is seen as a humble being that stood up again'st the superpowers and defended Korea's dignity and honor.
>ow would America go about setting up a new government in North Korea
they would't. China already stated they would't accept U.S troops anywhere near their borders.
North Korea has plenty of defectors to the South, they'll adjust fine.
They're not absolutely retarded. Many people alive there today were around the the North-South war. Of course they tell their children of what life was like beforehand.
Plenty of information from NK, private and secret information gets leaked to the world. Imagine the stuff the gets leaked and spread domestically.
NK is Pretty much like NatSoc Germany they abandoned communism a while ago they pretty much just Larped as commies to get free gibs from the USSR. After the USSR fell they adopted juche. Juche is basically national socialism for Koreans. It emphasizes the importance of race, self-determination, etc. Just like Nazi Germany.
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They won’t bow down to the Jew, so they suffer the same fate as Germany in WW2.
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>they shit on their own people
According to the Jew-owned media? Nice job being a good goy, and believing the propaganda.
(((They))) did the same thing with Iraq and Saddam + Libya and Gaddafi.
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Good job on being (((Redpilled))) goys
1. Invade and capture all territory.
2. Run NK as a special administrative region of SK
3. Keep the NK military large, but have them act as guards on the Chinese and Russian borders.
4. Keep running NK as before in the short term but gradually improve shit and integrate bits into SK slowly as NK becomes more like SK.
that description of NKsounds like america
>NK is Pretty much like NatSoc Germany they abandoned communism a while ago they pretty much just Larped as commies to get free gibs from the USSR
I wouldn't say neo-feudalism is NatSoc. Hitler didn't control the army. Hitler didn't have $1.4 million a year to spend on Hennessy. Hitler also focussed on actual public works as a whole rather than 5 year plans and didn't kill his own people.
NK is just straight up Stalinism mixed with a monarchy.
>they teach their children the leader is literally god.
People on here think your leader is literally god
North Korea is not Communist anymore. Kim-il Sung himself said he didn’t want a “reformation” of (((Marxism)))-Leninism with Juche, but a complete departure from it – criticizing the fact that the Commies and nationalists of the 1920s were “divorced from the masses.”
Its all in this link if you want a good read.
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>North Korea is not Communist anymore
I know. That's why I said Stalinism. Stalin wasn't a communist since communism preaches against nationalism but Stalinist Russia was heavily nationalistic.
Also I already pointed out EVERYTHING you said I even provided links/sources
And you didnt read any of them
and you didnt use your brain
and you still think your right
Mate I just read the first paragraph. Reading upside-down is stressing on the eyes.
You can't just invade and capture NK. You can nuke them sure but all in war against NK would be the slowest and the most expensive slug fest ever. You're fighting against million little asians hiding in caves that have been fortified since 50s.
>these people are brainwashed beyond belief, they teach their children the leader is literally god.
So? The Japanese also believe their Emperor is a living deity. It was actually a common belief in the majority of cultures throughout history that the King or ruler is a god.
And why is it your responsibility? You won't be in charge of "denazification", you neocon kike. There's a country of 50 million Koreans that calls itself "Republic of Korea" right next to the DPRK. It'll be their government that would be in charge of such projects, not you. It's not your country, none of your business.
How about you mind your own fucking business, you faggot.
>These people have been through a lot of psychological drama already.
Yes, like having 15% of their civilian population butchered by the US and UN scorched-earth policy during 1950-1953
>US and UN scorched-earth policy during 1950-1953
wft man. The North invaded the South. The Russians had funded a short invasion. The US and UN got involved and pushed them back nearly to the border of China. China freaked the fuck out and threw their army into the fight and pushed back to the current boarder.
The Chinese and Russians are responsible for the destruction. We just preserved the self-determination of the South. Look at how good the south population has it in relation to the North.
NK has been fucked sideways by the Japs, then the Russians, then the Chinese. The US is the only player that wants nothing but health and happiness for their nation, north and south.
you bring the aid to them and use their ant drone behavior to benefit them. set up vertical vegetable farms to prevent starvation, bring in the internet, cheap refurbished computers, teach them how to maintain the vertical farms and reset their routers, and let them learn about the world at their own pace.
you have an entire country with minimal infrastructure and a population that is essentially a blank slate. tech companies can use this opportunity to test new products. is your tech company planning on making a bid to be a part of the Mars colony in 2025? use North Korea as your guinea pig and trial run. test 3d cement house printers to make cheap housing for the peasants, test water purification systems, aqua/hydroponics, recycling centers, etc.
North Korea is essentially a real life challenge scenario for Cities: Skylines. We teach the Norks to maintain what we build, teach them how to eat real food, teach them how to teach themselves, then let them do their thing. Have a temporary government to oversee operations, and then in a generation or two you let them have their first real voting process.
That looks amazing until you read that the NK per-capita GDP is $1800/year. All those guys are living the life on the backs of a whole lot of other people.
in comparison, SK per-capita GDP is $28,430/year. Both figures from 2012.
>The North invaded the South.
>KOREANS INVADE KOREA
You can't invade your own country. That'd be like saying "Americans invade America"
Korea is a 5000 year old civilization, an arbitrary division created by foreign powers on the basis of a competition between two economic systems for 5 years does not erase 5000 years of shared cultural, linguistic, racial and family bonds. Your ZOG troops are illegally occupying Korean soil and should get the fuck out.
You sure as fuck can invade yourself. It's a civil war. In the US the fucking Yankees did a number on the South. NK and SK had completely separate economic systems before the northern invasion. They even have different language dialects now. The Korean war established that the SK retained their independence from the NK government.
Both of these hit the nail on the head. It will be a while till we can do any sort of reunification.
>bringing multiculturalism to the world's most A E S T H E T I C country
a shame
Thanks for your suggestion Shlomo.
>NK and SK had completely separate economic systems before the northern invasion.
No, it was the same country. They simply had different economic emphasis, the northern parts had more industrial sites like Hamhung while the south remained largely agricultural. The economy was under Japanese control, as was the rest of the nation. The Koreans didn't give a shit about capitalism or Marxism-Leninism, they just wanted independence from Japan.
>They even have different language dialects now.
The southern half-breeds speak "Konglish" thanks to decades of cultural terrorism by America.
The Korean war established that the SK retained their independence from the NK government.
An artificial division created by a puppet state. The southern Koreans hate America too, they have large anti-American protests all the time. The southern government under the dictator Park Chung Hee used to call prostitutes who sold their bodies to US soldiers "money-making patriots". This is what the southern government defines as "patriotism", creating a mongrel race of Americanized half-breeds. The US soldiers behave like pigs, raping and killing Koreans.
Once Korea is liberated from US domination there will be camps to remove these half breeds from the Korean gene pool.
>tfw if we invade and introduce North Korea to the rest of the world, we're going to destroy this
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>SK teachers
>brainwash them into feminism
great idea
wat?
The Russians did one thing and the US another:
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But at this point there really are two independent civilizations.
There is nothing more relaxing than a nice big pair of tits.
brings back 80s feels
>But at this point there really are two independent civilizations.
Why does a foreigner get to decide that for them? Didn't you already create a big enough mess by dividing it in the first place? 5000 years of unity is not destroyed by 70 years of artificial division.
Koreans were rioting against the division and butchered by the pro-US sycophant Lee Seung-man (aka "Syngman Rhee"), the Korean race traitor.
With NK people smuggling in kpop, decadent western civilization can't be all that bad.
>decent
The problem is they will get rotten to the core if SK starts to culturally enrich NK.I mean all the western values,feminism,etc.
Unless NK gets a some kind of government separated from SK influence who will remain natsoc but won't fuck up the country beyond belief.
If I was to try and fix North Korea I would try and gently ease it into a more free Strasserist style NatSoc state. Unfortunately that's unlikely to happen; if the North Korean government collapses you can expect post-Soviet style chaos and looting. This is because the collapse of a regime presents an absolutely massive opportunity to make shekels at the expense of the population
>Why does a foreigner get to decide that for them?
Given you were a smoldering crater at the time you may not have noticed what happened after WWII. All the winning powers tried to divvy up the world. Korea was attempted to be claimed by both the Russians and the Chinese, and I suppose by the US too.
Who ultimately did the best for Korea? The US of A! I can guarantee you that if the South Korean government asked the US military to leave, we would leave. The same in Japan, and the same in Germany.
Like it or not, with a power vacuum in Korea, had we done nothing, all of it would be controlled by either China or Russia or both. There was never a chance for Korea to be totally free from any influence after WWII.
All I can say is that the US did the best that it could, and it all seemed to work out for SK in the end. It is a fantasy to believe that had we done nothing the result would have been 'better' by any objective measure.
Did anyone even know what NK was before 2010 or was that just me? Its fame for being some hellhole seems to be recent. Since the threats started pouring out.
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I didn't really pay attention to NK before 2010.What was it like?
don't buy into the propaganda from either side
norks were devastated during 90s for losing much of the support and markets after the fall of ussr, however until early 80s NK was superior to SK
They have long been in the news in the US. Bill Clinton did some negotiations with them back in the day. There was a bad famine back in the 90's.
Just give them a TV with cable and done
I honestly couldn't tell you, I just don't remember hearing about it ever until atleast around 2010. But I learned about it when I was still in high school so around 2007-2008, and it's reputation (from what I can tell) was never "good" but I don't remember the shitshow now existing prior to the threats Kim was giving out. Knew nothing about it. Never heard anything about it. Didn't even think about it until it started appearing on the news more or less every day and everybody, not limited to a Somalian in a shack somewhere, has heard about it.
I'm pretty neutral on NK to be honest. Not really out of choice, who the fuck knows what happen sthere?