So why do all the detractors of MGTOW say that Sup Forums is a MGTOW board?
You retards never shut up about it, Sup Forums is not a MGTOW board. You also seem to confuse "MGTOW" with many other things.
And why do you guys even criticize MGTOW when so many of you are hermits, NEETS, bachelors, childless, and so forth? You're all the same whether you like it or not. Sup Forums may hate MGTOW but you are quite similar in the end.
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That looks like a decent butt plug.
That's what MGTOW is right? Gay propaganda ?
Because we are MGTOW dumbass otherwise we wouldn't be on Sup Forums
So you're saying even the guys who talk about how great women are and how we need to "man up", those guys are MGTOW too?
I don't really follow your logic here.
It's the male version of crazy cat ladies.
Yeah I am that way. I know i am a loser and want to get better but until then I am GOING MY OWN WAY
I've been accused of being MGTOW here, I'm single but I feel no connection to MGTOW's community.
I just wonder why Sup Forums is so retarded on this issue for reasons I asked in the OP.
bump, Sup Forums can't run away from these questions every time I ask them.
We have a lot of Trad-Con's here. These guys will throw their fellow man under the bus faster than a pink haired SJW on slutwalk day.
Just ask Florida's alimony-reform vetoing Governor Scott (R).
That is why.
Kill yourself leaf you autistic pathetic beta male
>Trad-Con's
*tips fedora*
>GREECE
LOL in Greece you have to be IN DEBT to get a women
pay denbts
Why do you advertise to the world that you are an ugly omega male virgin? Nobody cares about your sexual failure and poor genetics go back to your subr*ddit
But now answer this part,
>when so many of you are hermits, NEETS, bachelors, childless, and so forth?
That describes a very good chunk of Sup Forums, and I can't help but have a huge gut feeling that even the guys who play the traditionalist role themselves don't have kids and aren't married.
No one cares about a Greek ok? Your literally poor as fuck
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after your wife divorces you and takes your kid this is what you can expect them to do when they """""""raise it""""""". if you think feminist are insane and damaged wait to see the children they raise.
>he posts about alimony raping men?!
>fucking sexist beta! let me bust out this funny meme i found on reddit. women deserve it! fuckin sexist
larping on Sup Forums won't get you women you little loser. you're the only beta around you subhuman.
sage
Fuck off with your Cultural Marxism male-feminism anti-white shit
enjoy your ban
That's another reason they don't get it. Here is the procreation cycle for most modern western males:
1. Virgin
2. Some sex
3. Sex becomes not big deal
4. LTR(s)
5. Get married and have kids
6. Get fucked over in a divorce
7. Jaded
Most MGTOWs are at step 7. The "muh white race" marriage pushers are mostly at 4-5. The 1's are plain old confused and yes some of them use MGTOW as a crutch.
you're a roastie bitch aren't you? you like to pop in and out of mgtow threads larping. you're either some estrogen filled micro dick guy or a female
In a degenerating society, MGTOW is the only logical solution for me. I don't care about having kids because this world is dying anyway. (((Capitalism))) is destroying all of the planets ecosystems, and most first worlders have forgotten that it was this natural wealth that has allowed us to prosper in the first place. There is no future for humanity on this planet.
Anyone having kids today I feel bad for; what kind of life are they going to have? The kids being born right now are going to know nothing except suffering.
I am a Turkish guy from the 1984 rap video
Read the actual text in the OP next time, you stupid fucking retard.
So you acknowledge that most people end up getting fucked over in a divorce (or just stay married in a shitty unhappy marriage). So why wouldn't MGTOW be a solution when modern marriage is obviously garbage?
There is literally zero point to get married if you are a man; women even if you meet them when they are virgins (good luck with that nowdays) almost never stay loyal.
Feminism has done nothing but promote hypergamy in women. That's not going to change for quite some time, if ever.
you're definitely some estrogen filled micro dick or a roastie. you type like all mentally ill people and females.
That's true. For any guy just coming of age today the best option would be to get to the Successful Bachelor - Stage 3 and stay there. When time comes for procreation do it the surrogate way.
You're mentally ill bruh.
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News flash: MGTOWS are alphas because they don't conform to the retarded ideology of alphas. There are no alphas, just men who work and are responsible, and men who aren't...
If all you trad cons are so buttblasted about a few blokes not getting married, we've already told you exactly what we want. Get rid of no-fault divorce, bring back at-fault divorce, and most MGTOW will happily get married.
See my other post, I'm not having children. The United States is already in terminal decline, why would I bring a child into that?
Enjoy your roastie wife.
Early MGTOW members included the likes of Ramzpaul and Roissy in DC (now Heartiste). So there goes your shitty theory.
Reminder that divorce rates for young middle/upper class, college/Uni educated people who have been in minimal relationships/sexual partners is actually very low
Reminder that if you're not married but with a woman for a few years in a living environment in most jurisdictions then you're considered de facto anyway.
Reminder that MGTOW is just sour grapes feminism and they were not "going their own way", because they never had a shot at getting a gf/wife in the first place
I want my robot, no way in hell am I getting married
>spend your larping that you're a mgtow to smear it cause you're so mentally retarded you use proper arguments
>try and call others mentally ill with a "no u" response
pathetic. micro dick or roastie bitch. either way you're scum.
Yes they will try to shame young men into the meat grinder, but will not lift a finger to fix broken mutated family laws.
I'm so jealous of such a proud aryan warrior such as yourself
Don't really understand what you're saying, I'm not a stormie just think MGTOW is BS
not getting married is one thing, being a total faggot that needs to belong to a movement is another
Mgtow is for kids who just realised that women are degenerate idiots and think not getting laid makes them smart or something. Fuck MGTOW.
I imagine for those really involved with it yes, but simply not wanting to get married in the modern day is not unreasonable. It's a risk/reward thing and the reward is small in comparison to risk.
I'm just a degenerate fetishist though.
>very low as low as 40% chance compared to 80% chance
>you still lose all your money and house
>you still pay alimony
>you still lose your children
fuck off you brainlet retard. it doesn't matter if you think something when you half of your brain is missing. just like it doesn't matter when the left "feels" something.
saying mgtow is like feminism doesn't actually make it like feminist, brainlet. it's the exact opposite of feminism since feminism uses the government to destroy you while mgtow is men living their own life and not asking for SHIT you loser.
Its best to be kept secret once my employer found out i didn't want to have kids i got shit canned
MGTOW is bluepilled as fuck, bunch of angry virgins blaming women for their total failures as a man.
You know who gets fucked over the worst in a divorce? Those college educated upper/middle class guys. Most lifetime alimony payers are these poor sons of bitches.
Yes, they're mgtow. When you entered Sup Forums you left the ability to associate with normal people behind.
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But as I said, statistically they have the least likely chance of it happening to begin with out of anyone.
Oh shut the fuck up faggots
You talk as if these MGTOWs have the choice of getting married in the first place
Why youre beating your chest about how "you're showing it DEM wymmenz" by being an independent, Chad just fucks possay and doesn't give a fuck
Mgtow is a kike incels movement
(Also Rousey is a master shitpost and genius wordsmith at no point in time was he a mgtowtard)
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more people who are into mgtow have children than the losers who come into these threads and bash on mgtow.
while mgtow is telling men how to get their children and raise them you're jerking off to porn and pretending you're a tradcon.
I love how asspained you tradcucks get over this.
>y-you're just ugly
>b-because I said so
You have no argument against it, so you spew ad hominem like a drooling retard leftist
40% chance? 80% chance? Where are you getting these numbers user?
Who is living their own life and not asking for shit? The exact same men that follow MGTOW are the ones that wouldn't have women available to them in the first place, it makes no difference.
Russian Roullete has only a 16% failure rate. Yet you would be a madman for playing it.
>normal people
>*glances at sjw and the left*
normal people don't exist anymore. you lost the ability to act like you're normal when the left decided 50 year old men in dress can go into the same bathroom as a 5 year old girl.
>get btfo with facts like mgtow isn't asking the government for anything
>strawman and deflect about how they're virgins
you're such a loser. do you think you seem smart saying this? you're a total failure. fuck off to reddit with other dumb shits.
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I've been going my own way so to speak for years. I never felt the need for a movement or to connect to a group to bitch about women and somehow 'combat' the evil women. Listen, here is the breakdown, women follow strong men. If you can't hold a woman down with your personality then it's only a matter of time before she jumps. Now there are two ways to deal with this, either be cold, hard, and calculating never allowing her too deeply into your life even if she is your wife/gf. People want to make a woman their entire existence when in reality you should keep doing the same things you did when you met her, it's just she's along for the ride in your life. Or you have entirely superficial relationships with them, always let them know they're one of many and enjoy it for however long it lasts. The key is honesty, when you're elusive, you turn into what is desired, you're the one being chased. It flips the game on it's head. I guarantee a woman can have 5-6 dudes wanting her attention but the second you pay her no mind she loses it wondering what you have going on and how you could possibly not be phased by her. This is again another key because while idiots fawn over her beauty, you playing it subtly indicating that you're on her level even if you're not looks wise. People find all kinds of external reasons why women do this or that or what they're attracted to but literally look at what women say they want and their behavior, it's a total disconnect. If you're able to be light-hearted, fun, funny, sociable, and not phased by her stupid bullshit (ie. Willing to challenge her and walk away) you will have far greater success and grasp at dealing with women and abandon this retarded MGTOW shit. Any man who cares what women think or do isn't really a man of worth. You need to lead.
I have a wife and kids. Name one MGTOW who isn't an autistic loser.
Are you aware of how prominent this site now is? This isn't the 2000s anymore.
And like I said here,
>when so many of you are hermits, NEETS, bachelors, childless, and so forth
This place is full of hypocritical self-indulgent wannabe tough guys who criticize MGTOW yet essentially do the same thing as MGTOW does without the same label.
Sup Forums may hate MGTOW but they are so very similar. Not the same, but similar.
What facts? Tell me where are the facts? The 50% figure as I said is inclusive of dropkicks, ethnics and boomers who have gone through their 4th/5th marriage - It was just a simple point that it doesn't reflect the reality for educated, young people who are entering their first marriage.
I don't think it's a radical thing to say that those who subscribe to gender based belief systems whether it's MGTOW or feminism do so as a coping mechanism for their personal shortcomings with the opposite sex.
It's not a strawman or a logical fallacy, go watch MGTOW YouTubers and put up with their unpleasant, nasally, autistic and monotone voices and watch them asking girls questions IRL - It's cringe.com, just face it these guys were never in the game to begin with and now to save face are pretending they wouldn't have played even if they had the chance.
>I have a wife and kids
No you don't, stop roleplaying.
This. I told my mum about why so many men are opting out of marrying and settling down, and she just sputtered and was outraged, and five minutes later calmed down and admitted that they have a point, but still pouted that young men should still throw themselves into the meat grinder because "what would happen if they don't?"
Exactly. Eeeeeeeexactly.
> Assuming everyone is like you
>So why do all the detractors of MGTOW say that Sup Forums is a MGTOW board?
Well, because generally Sup Forums, like MGTOW, knows how women are by nature, but unlike MGTOW, they still advocate breeding and "getting hitched" to preserve the white race.
Rich old guys
MWGTOW doesn't do anything but talk about women CONSTANTLY and how much they "hate" them. They're just a bunch of fucking nerdy losers.
Here is some early Roissy. He used to cover a lot of MRA stuff before he went full-WN.
every larping tradcon on Sup Forums comes into mgtow threads to pretend they've got a wife and child HAHAHAHAHAH.
the wife and child doesn't exist in other threads, but make a mgtow one and suddenly half of the board is a tradcon with a wife and children.
fucking dumb tradcon larping cucks. it's literally you and women who come and roleplay in these threads. it's so goddamn pathetic.
>FEMINISM AND MGTOW IS THE SAME!
>it's the exact opposite
>STFU VIRGIN.
feminism isn't a copping mechanism for short coming. it's cultural marxism so women can gain power you fucking brainlet. feminism exists so women can gain power and influence over society. they want to destroy patriarchy which means WHITE MALES.
mgtow is a philosophy teaching men the truth about women you giant turd. it tells men how women REALLY ARE and their TRUE NATURE. it tells men about all the shit society wants to do to fuck them over and how they can avoid it. it's about using the government to fuck somebody over.
you're totally a retard who doesn't understand what feminism or mgtow is so just shut the fuck up. women default to communism and feminism their method to do it.
>Sup Forums doesn't do anything but talk about jews CONSTANTLY and how much they "hate" them. They're just a bunch of fucking nerdy losers.
Yes feminism is such a big problem in our society, go listen to (((Milo))) lmao
I still don't get it? So what if women really are as bad as you say they are (They're not, plenty of amazing women out there) - You guys who follow MGTOW don't want to interact with them? Well as I said before, guess what, even if you weren't MGTOW you wouldn't have anyway.
I never said that, dummy. But do you really think most of Sup Forums is married to a young aryan wife and has 4+ kids with her?
I'd like to say that I think there is a huge difference between being what MGTOW claims to be, and what MGTOW tends to be in practice.
I'm Married and I can tell you that MGTOW has some merit, and it's nice to see men trying to be traditional and retaining a pride in their masculinity. Even /r/theredpill is a good place sometimes, in comparison to others that tell you that being a nu-male cuck is acceptable for straight men.
However, I do always get some faggotry vibes from the angry MGTOW advocates. It's true that women will shit test you. Like any woman will test a man to see if he's worthy. If you're smart, you will do your own shit tests during the courting stage, this is normal. For example, when I met my wife, I showed interest in her but I refused to initiate a conversation for a while. I forced her to be the one who started conversations with me. I made her chase me. I made her want attention from me. I wouldn't initiate anything but I would always respond enthusiastically Once I saw that she was interested in me, I paid more attention to her. Because I knew she was legitimately interested and not playing games.
The next important thing is VALUES. Values Values Values. Values are fucking important. I am of the opinion that not having a good understanding of each others values is extremely detrimental to a relationship. If you cannot honestly discuss everything with each other, you're doing it wrong.
Pol doesn't pretend to "go their own way" whatever the fuck that means. Not really your own way when you just can't get over that meanie weenie ex of your that hurt your feelings so bad :((( poor little baby boy needs his mommy. Poor tiny little baby boy. :(
>y-you couldn't get them anyways
Still no arguments, yes I can and have fucked women before. I have no intention of getting married because I've seen my fair share of messy divorces and it's a stupid descision to make unless you're a woman.
Ad hominem, not an argument. But youj want your gravy train to keep going so I see why you're shilling marriage so hard.
What if your gf/wife was richer than you?
Isn't seeing your fair share of messy divorces anecdotal evidence? As I said divorce rates for educated young people who haven't been married before is statistically quite low.
I assume most of pol is on the spectrum. That's the only assumption I make about anyone on here.
fuck off to reddit. you're too stupid to be on Sup Forums. feminism is the mechanism jews and communist use to destroy the west, destroy the white demographic, and commit white male genocide. mgtow is literally men fucking helping other men avoid feminist destroying them. THEY CAN'T BE THE SAME NO MATTER HOW STUPID YOU ARE.
>They're not, plenty of amazing women out there
you must be a female. fuck you. if all women disappeared nothing of value would be lost. outside of sex and reproduction you women have no value and only harm society
>>y-you're just ugly
>Implying it's not true
Ahahahahahahahahahaahanaahaaha
>Muh we hominen
No. AD hominen is a fallacy. In the context of mgtow it's not. It's a legitimate point in pointing out the rediculousness of it:
Low sexual market men writing declaration of their rejection of women.
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Blaming the broken family law problem on Jews or any other ethnic/religious group is retarded. I've been following MRA news over a decade and the biggest obstacles to divorce law reform have been your typical centrist politicians, mostly of the Christian faith.
Sup Forums's criticism of MGTOW will finally be valid when Sup Forums all has an aryan wife with 4+ kids each. But as of right now, I see most indications that Sup Forums is the same as MGTOW but just with a different label.
You want to go your own way you fucking leaf piece of waste? Then do it. Do whatever YOU want. Women don't even have to be in the equation. Stop talking about them. You're fucking obsessed with women. Loser. If I knew you in real life I would beat you up.
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>complains about white genocide
>doesn't want to boost white birth rate
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You're just being an idiot if you don't think there are amazing, good and honest women out there. There have been plenty of innovative women out there who have done lots in science/health etc., not as much as men sure but that's besides the point. You can't have a strong family unit without a woman, without female companionship a lot of men would simply be empty. This is what I mean when I compared MGTOW to feminism, just as feminists hate men - you seem to hate women, you can't say otherwise when you say there "if all women disappeared nothing of value would be lost".
I guarantee I'm better looking than you abdul. Post your ugly brown mug :^)
>. It's a legitimate point in pointing out the rediculousness of it:
Low sexual market men writing declaration of their rejection of women.
Ironically you PUA faggots are generally supreme autists, and you are the only ones who use muh sex market value
It's not Sup Forums -- it's women.
These are women:
Only a woman would write something like this:
> :((( poor little baby boy needs his mommy. Poor tiny little baby boy. :(
Future cat ladies.
You're probably right. But you're also probably projecting. I don't know anyone irl who posts on pol. Only lurkers and they are all virgins.
>Loser. If I knew you in real life I would beat you up.
You'd scratch him with your nails, and then when he raised his hand you'd run off and call the police and say he attempted to rape you.
Cat lady.
>If I knew you in real life I would beat you up.
Top fucking kek, you're fucking dutch you slurp negro cum for a living.
Pic related, it's you.
I can't tell if MGTOW is because virgin tfw no gf or because of the rampant degeneracy and Marxism that has plagued modern women and caused their morals and standards to degrade to the level that they're currently at. Either way, the proper solution is gas the kikes race war now
Certain threads attract certain types of people. The people who get annoyed with women-haters are the ones who have been married to women.
Ever notice that the people who populate pro-race mixing threads always people who hate racemixing? Same thing with Christianity threads. Make a Christianity thread and you will see the angry Varg Pagans and Atheists pour in with pictures of the Pope washing black feet.
MGTOW threads attract married men who think being against marriage is stupid.
> it tells men how women REALLY ARE and their TRUE NATURE.
More CAPS please
>THE TRUTDTH , I SEE aT LASD
Kys
You dropping regards
Stop politzing your low SmV you beat cucks
Here all le bitter truth about WHOMaeN
>Breathes cock, preferably thick
>Wants a high t Entertaining temporary male to keep her company
>If you can't fuck aka at least 5.5thick dicc and 10mins non stop penetration at medium speed her right forget it you'll get cucket
>Is brainwashed by Kikes
That's literally all
And you know it
But you can't compete so you create the grandiose political shit out of it
Every Canadian thread is trash bait because Justin Trudeau hired a team of professional shitposters to ruin this board in early 2016.
Remember to sage and report ALL Canadian threads.
>ur projecting
Nope, Sup Forums's criticism will only be valid when that happens and you know it. Until then, it's just autists turning the mirror on others when it should be facing them.
wrong. wrong. wrong. wrong. wrong. like always you're wrong.
>mgtow is only for whites and you can't have children without marriage
definitely got the estrogen female brain
>women do anything of value
nothing at all. anything a woman did she accomplished with a team of men and if she didn't exist at worse a man would invent/do it a year later at max.
>you need women to raise children
nope, you don't. men make better fathers. every single mother is complete shit. at most a subhuman woman exists as a nanny and a poor one at that. any that's important is taught by men.
>feminism is just women complaining about men xDDD
WRONG YOU DUMB BITCH. it's a fucking cultural marxist tool to destroy western society and murder white males.