Are Asians actually complete humans?

We are all aware of the meme that Asians have high IQs. In my experience, this is at least true insofar as they are more tolerable than blacks, spics, and sandniggers. I grew up in a suburb of LA that has the highest demographic of 1st and 2nd generation East Asian americans in the country, went to primary/secondary school with a ton of Asians, and pursued STEM in college, so I've had casual and friendly relationships with asians. I have even dated 2 asian girls and gotten to know their families over the course of the relationships. So my question arises not out of a state of ignorance, but of discomfort with the implications of my own observations.

Why is it that in my entire life I've not met a single Asian who possesses the irreducibly complex inner reality referred to as a human soul? I have not associated with Asians personally since my university days (when I came to this realization) because I can't find in any of them any of the aspects that I'm looking for in a fruitful adult friendship. Asians don't seem to cultivate personal identity or knowledge of arts/philosophy of their own volition, nor do they seem to experience life with the same sense of self-important individualism that embodies the best aspects of western society. I can see that they have somewhat of a drive toward achievment in life, and that they abide by at least some simulacrum of morality, and yet literally NONE of the hundreds of asians that I've met in my life have seemed to have that "spark" of personality seems essentially commonplace in white people.

Why is this so? If Asians have high IQ why do the vast majority of them come off as boring/intellectually empty/milquetoast retards?

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>muh souls

There are aspects to human personality that are so complex as to warrant use of hand-wavey words like "soul" in order even to refer to such a phenomenon in a conversation. I'm obviously not talking about a freefloating, supernatural Abrahamic ghost.

>emotional intelligence
>he calls it a "soul"

you seem to be the retard OP

>can't understand basic symbolism

Jesus fucking christ.

I'm not referring to emotional intelligence, I'm referring to the degree of complexity of one's inner reality. Asians live in high-context culture so the context within themselves is low, I guess that's the answer to the thread without anyone having to tell me so

Yes, we are humans.

They're turbo jews

>God/Evolution makes perfect companion to man
>Ol' ching chong floss eyes eats it
Why is this even a discussion?

Asian's are bro pilled. The most red-pilled guy I know is Asian. He's Shinto and everything, and a white nationalist

"but you aren't white" I ask

*looks at skin color on arm* "Looks white to me"

10/10 would be roommates with.

>Asians don't seem to cultivate personal identity or knowledge of arts/philosophy of their own volition.
>posting this kind of thought in a Mongolian shitposting website.

Whatever it is you are smoking, I want it.

>muh unique and special personal identity
>muh arts
>muh self-important individualism

this faggotry is exactly what's wrong with western society.

WE

Asian americans are self hating cucks who suck up to the white man. Ofcource they have no soul or concept of individualism.

>asian
>WN
Clinically insane

the fuck is this shit, they voted something like 80% democrat in the last election.

Look at them , look a them in despisal and laugh, for they are the future miserable hapa fathers, the male equivalent to a mudsharking whore, a disgrace to their race

Asians are communal.

I guess the question is, do they have no "souls" because their communal culture wipes that from them, or are they communal because they are genetically inclined to not have "souls" . Because i tend to agree with you OP. I live in sydney and go to uni and there are tons of asians, yet they dont always seem to have individuality

Another pretentious dumb White faggot believing he is a special snowflake. Nothing new.

"Most redpilled" being a white wannabe reject isnt being redpilled. A redpilled asian would be an asian nationalist and wouldnt align himself eith whites who belittle and demean him whatever chance they get.

Yes.
Try basing your opinion of whites on the majority whom listen to nigger music and dress like trash.

Asian > white

>me on the bottom

this guy

/thread

Christian individualism is literally the corner stone of western philosophy.

Let me give you an example of what I was talking about from my own life.

>Ex Azn gf from highschool wanted to postpone going to university to further a wedding photography job that she was already making money from
>Her group of Azn friends deride her with snide peer pressure to conform to expectations for even considering postponing immediate matriculation
>Caves to consensus pressure, goes to school for STEM
>Is a depressed shut-in now with some lab tech job.

I could list a bunch of stories like this of asians group-pressuring eachother through bullying and derision into conformism that literally makes the lives of everyone worse.

the asians i know listen nigher music the same as whites do. They are just as susceptible as whites are

OP
Chinks do everything out of fear
Jews do everything out of malice
Europeans do everything out of curiosity

...

I think it's mostly based on their culture. Most of Asia, particularly China, is based on being very smart so you can get into a narrow "successful" field. Asian parents usually push their kids to be doctors or lawyers: respectable positions, but really not something that is really going to stand out or make you a ton of money or be too hard to get if you try. Because of this, they never actually have to try and shoot for the stars or come up with things, so they never develop that side (though I think some do really late in life when they are free of parental pressure and see how boring their lives are).

I've met some pretty "sparky" Asian people, but usually the ones with weird sort of kooky parents or people who rebelled hard. I think that sort of individuality that we see in the West requires a healthy level of rebellion that most Asians don't have.

>Asian Americans
Found your problem.

The answer is simple.

The well being of their families and society takes precedence for East asians in general. We dont speak our true thoughts as they may discomfort our peers and loved ones.

You white people mostly just care about yourself. You can hence say whatever shit or indulge in whatever shit without a care on how it affects your surroundings. Theres a reason why toxic insensitive/invasive ideologies like feminism proliferate so easily in the west.
You can also see such similar differences between you and eastern europeans and how they act.

We act this way not because we lack a soul. It's simply because we care for people more than you. Period.

You might be onto something here as I have only ever known Asian Americans, and the few FOB asians that I've known had a somewhat different demeanor to them.

>whites
>the majority whom listen to nigger music and dress like trash

you ever heard of a place called "South Korea"?

Of course you're not going to see any bubbly Asians, not being noticed is a good thing, you risk being bullied or ostracised for being too showy, especially in America. Our looks and height is already ridiculed, can you imagine us trying to be a speshul snowflake? Just be glad Asians aren't something interesting to talk about, you Americans have so much more to worry than Asians.

I don't like your opinion and the conclusion you reached, OP. However, I will still provide related content out of intellectual integrity:
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WRONG. DEAD WRONG.

Yes, it is where all the extremely cute girl groups come from. You know, the ones who are very feminine and sweet.

This is literally the same argument niggers use against white people.

"muh soul" is just an excuse for being a dumb shit

They all kinda seem to have some kind of weird very high functioning autism. Also they're very preoccupied with appearances.

Honestly I don't really have a bad word to say about them. They're just kinda goofy sometimes.

Can you give me a counterpoint without expecting me to read that entire wall of text AND interpret it the same way you would want me to?

To be quite frankly honest, I do feel the individuality of Japanese(I don't know about other Asians) in general are suppressed when we are in a group, as we are quite group
oriented.
It doesn't mean we all lack unique personality.
Especially when you socialized with us one on one, you realize there are so many interesting ppl here.

I live in a city that's 63% Asian. Asians are just regular people.

Their culture is garbage and revolves entirely around materialism and consumerism. At least America still has old christian values in the rural parts. Stop basing your opinions on your fetishes, you degenerate.

they are ethnocentric, it's literally that. Blacks and hispanics has been living in the united states since it's conception, they are more likely interact with local Americans compared than the asians who only came en masse since the 1965. They have memes and culture, just not shared.

4/5rds of a person

> Asian

That's the word Chinks use because they're too embarrassed to call themselves "chinese"

because they studied all the time while others were developing a personality/understanding themselves/experiencing/etc.

I lived in a city that was majority Asian too, and all they do is talk to each other in their own ugly languages, sneer at you when you try to greet them and buy up all the property. They are not "regular people" to me.

This pretty much.

>whites dump and abandon their parents in their old age, who make up majority of nursing/retirement homes.
>MUH WHITE SOUL

rofl, the amount of disgusting narcissism parading itself as some sort of enlightened individualism in OP is astonishing.

Asians have hundred times more care for their families and communities than your average white. Sure this might bleed into supporting shitty collectivist expansion of government but to say we lack souls when most of you dump your parents in nursing homes and rarely interact with your families is fuckin laughable.

I thought that's the word burgers use because they are too stupid to differentiate Asian countries.

I'd much rather live in Asia than anywhere surrounded by anti-Asian shitposters and divisive ShariahBlue shills.

asians are high iq but they're all boring cookie-cutters

You know, this might have a lot to do with it. Most of my negative experiences with Asian-american consensus reality has had to do with groups of asians enacting some counterculture borderline racist terrorism against what they (I can only assume) see as quaintness/ignorance of white culture. It's pretty laughable when you see it in context but also somewhat sad, as second and even third generation Asian-americans do not typically break free of this tendency

It's a Census category. It's actually a combination of Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Indians, Vietnamese, etc.

Lol, I dunno. Maybe I'm biased because I'm Indian.

Read it if you're interested. Don't read it if you aren't. Asians just don't give a fuck. I ain't a fucking chink obsessed with saving face.

> Asian cultures are way more collectivistic
+
> When a hundred men stand together, each of them loses his mind and gets another one. - Friedrich Nietzsche
Put two and two together yourself.

Honestly though, the Sinosphere hasn't given birth to a truly original philosophy in two fucking millenniums. While the West has Kant, Hobbes, Descartes, Locke and other giants; the East is still repeating the same old shit from the Spring and Autumn, and Warring States periods. Just copy&paste. Truly a disheartening situation.

no one talks in symbols you nigger. speak explicitly or fuck off.

do u see scientists talking in vague symbol?

Asians are not really people, they don't have empathy and emotions like we do

t. married to one

OP lives in america, everyone is significantly more stupid there, even the african americans

I would TOTALLY buy into this explanation if it weren't for the fact that all of the Asian-american households that I've become personally acquainted with (and even become a part of) were the most COLD and UNEMOTIONAL wastelands of humanity that I've ever experienced. Both of my asian ex-gfs have crippling emotional problems from being raised by Asian parents in western society.

GEE GUYS I SURE AM GLAD TO BE POSTING IN THIS >>>POLITICS

No other race has as large of a frontal lobe as whites so no race as much consciousness.

Race dynamics are a centerpoint of politics, are you memeing?

>Flag

Where do you live, Vancouver?

What is due to genuine affection and what is due to social pressure?

>b-b-but muh RACE DYNAMICS
>thread has nothing to do with how said race dynamics affect a certain country's politics
>it's all about "NO SOULS :^("
>pure bait thread fishing (more like phishing) for free (You)s

These people are insane and simply revert to stereotypes thinking they're making some kind of profound argument. It seems to be a common perception that Asians are robotic and "soulless." But obviously Asians have souls as they have a brain just like whites with same components. White supremacists really believe skin color determines whether or not someone is human.

>This board is for the discussion of news, world events, political issues, and other related topics.

Out of here newfag

Whites tend to be mammals whereas Asians are like insects. Why'd you think they breed so much? They rely upon sheer volume to get anything done.

Chinks are truly subhuman, while Japs and gooks are just weird by Western standards.

Oddly enough, the Viets actually seem almost white in temperament where I live.

white rock

It's a damn shame this thread is filled with so many garbage responses.

Most asians aren't human. They are not fully evolved, therefore you will not find within them the traits that you have come to associate with humanity.

However, that being true, the higher caste east asians at least know not to actively bring down western soceity unlike the other problem minorities that the USA keeps.

Yeah strangely I've noticed that Viets are typically more individualistic than other countries

so sorry for being part of the cultural enrichment OP

>here in fliplandia though the majority ( < 60% ) are now soulless from poverty and family troubles; literal subhuman tier that needed extermination
>the ones that do have souls are either cucked from their learned helplessness or trying their best to be hidden deadly vigilantes

Since you like taking anecdotes here's 1 for you.

An American was in my platoon, constantly being loud mouthed, blabbing shit and asking stupid questions that was already answered by the sergeant just to make it seem like he exist. Is this what you call muh soul? And btw he was ostracised by almost every guy. Fucking cancer spreading to our national service.

Also there was a fucking cuck Chinese Canadian who got so fucking offended when I said the word nigger as a joke. Thank god for Sup Forums confirming my suspicions.

>same sense of self-important individualism that embodies the best aspects of western society

You mean hipsters who act way too passionate about their juvenile interests? They don't sit around expressing their deeply philosophical ambitions? They dont mull over unanswerable existential questions, as if it is somehow productive, while really only serving to demonstrate their own depth and ego?

I don't see anything wrong with an unpretentious people more focused on community and pragmatic social cohesion, rather than feigning self-importance through epistemological garrulousness.

I'm sorry that he doesn't think you're human. I do.

That being said, you will find examples here and there, and mostly in the Japanese population, of Asians with enough non Yayoi admixture as to begin resembling and human and not an insect. This is why many parts of Japanese culture, like Shintoism which was mentioned earlier, resonate so strongly in the West.

>other related topics
>board flooded with frogs and BLACKED threads

Be honest with yourself.

This board is for the discussion of whatever the hell people want to discuss as long as it isn't hardcore porn. As long as you post a Trump picture somewhere in the thread, it's all good. ;^)

I hope to God Asians see us as human when they rise to power.

This actually in essence answers OP's question, and a question I've had for a long time.

The white man may be susceptible to self-centered cancers like feminism but much less so to communism.

Yo dude out of all of my Asian friends I've ever had the Phillipinos are the ones that acted the most like real people. My buddy in highschool's mom was FOB from Phillipines and she was one of the most redpilled/intelligent women I've ever known. I actually post these threads because I hold out some hope for Asians because of Phlip-americans. I don't know anything about what it's like over there though.

Yeah cause Russians didn't murder 50 million other Russians in the name of Communism.

Whatever, you have innate bias that you cannot overcome.

If you were an unconcerned alien looking in at Earth, you'd form a more positive view of Koreans than you would of whites.

Shintoism is very similar to Indo-European pagan believes, then again, all heathen "religions" are similar in some way.
If you can't get a five, just stop it, Yugi.

Come on, just fuck off stupid piece of shit

I didn't say whites were immune to collectivism you fucking retard

Here is what actual white women look like.

Don't combat racism with more racism.

>when they rise to power.
if they rise to power they would likely rule under a communist regime, so they probably wouldn't care

I have not known a single Asian-american who knows anything about epistemology, if you deny that your life and intellect are enriched by your having pursued an understanding in the subject you're just being a fuckhead

And here is what an actual Asian looks like.

Sounds like she had a soul and it was crushed by the expectations of her peer group and society.

This kind of shit is common in homogenous culture. Think of the German engineer who rides the line for 30 years and gets in a childless marriage just to hang himself one day half way towards retirement.

Read arthur miller if you want to see historical examples from white American society.

I'll get a 5 when I'm good and ready.

Arthur Miller fucking sucks.

American literature has been shit since at least the 20th century.

>attacking the lolbertarians
I'm a national socialist, and I don't understand the startling lack of empathy that you see from mainland chinks.

At any rate, any other East Asians are bro-tier to me. Might have to do with my Slav genes being used to a more collectivist and pensive mindset.
(((Russians)))
The USSR was an ungodly horde of mudslimes unleashed on Slavic peasants by the kikes.

The closest we ever came to decent literature in any sense of the word was Edgar Allen Poe. Everything else is a cesspit.

that's a no
THE RACE WAR NEVER ENDED user
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED


>the Phillipinos are the ones that acted the most like real people
of course with blessings from america-kun for over half a century~

>I don't know anything about what it's like over there though.
it's duterteland for now (less criminals, commies and jihadists)
china, japan and korea though pour loads after loads of hot money here
libshits still flood the airwaves with their tears

Just trying to make a point m8 not promoting the quality of his writing.

Even if you take a look at the genetics chart that was posted earlier, you can see that Japan is very separate from the other Asian countries. I think there is good reason for that. They are probably mixed part Asian part ancient Indo-European or something similar to that. It would explain where Shintoism and Bushido came from as well.

This isn't true, there just ceased to be a literary canon in which you can autofellate with the approval of consensus academia. If you don't think the best literature is coming out of America for the past 100 years you're a fucking moron.

(1/2)

What you don't understand is just how difficult it is to navigate identity as an immigrant. Yes there is a meme of successful model immigrants, and on the surface that is true, but there are psychological issues and schism that any redpilled, conscious Asians will tell you that exist within the 'Asian' group in the West.

I've been spending my entire 20s dealing and grasping with this issue, and the issue is that you essentially have to juggle 3 different cultures, your parents (country of origin), your whatever-American, and the broader mainstream, 'white' American culture.

The reason why many Asian-Americans can be so psychotic is that they are stuck between hard places. They cannot feel at home no matter how much they try to integrate into the broader white society, and the few that try end up with a self-loathing inferiority complex that bleeds into their personal lives, and inevitably end up without any culture and become socially isolated (whether as individuals or as families).

And this is excluding juggling the damage that being raised by Asian parents have on Asian Americans. Asian parents are not integrated, and work for most part, on their respective parallel Asian cultures that form within the West (China town, K-town, etc etc), so they have no idea what their children are facing when it comes to identity, nor do they have the time and energy to. However, the children are left with Asian values of filial piety and collectivism while being influenced by Western individualism.

So we are essentially given 3 paths:

1. Completely abandon any Western influence and relegate to FOB-like existence for your entire life, even if you were born here.

2. Huddle and stick together with your fellow whatever-Americans and navigate through life. This is what most of us do and this will only give you a sense of security and buffer, but will rarely be an impetus for finding yourself, and being an individual.