Why do the Left wing defend the European Union? It's a Right winged corporate, bank-run faceless based institution

Why do the Left wing defend the European Union? It's a Right winged corporate, bank-run faceless based institution.

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free shit. the fact that it's relatively stable and safer than the US on the average thanks to our cities and your homogeneity. The fact that upward mobility is a non-thing in the EU and that the EU effectively rules without regard for the voter is a non-factor. because free shit

>Right wing

No

They think it can somehow be reformed into a utopian paradise

It is mainly a left wing, socialist, highly bureaucratic organization which defends left wing rights and fights the right wing and capitalism throughout the EU.

Not sure where you get your information from, but here in reality town we look at facts.

eastern European countryes deff. more right wing then left, whats wrong with you, also most white.
take your faggotish behaviour else where

Because "we" are against it and right leaning individuals voted for Brexit. The "left" at this point in time consider politics a team sport and react to anything the "right" does, no matter how sensible, factual or prudent it is, by doing and saying the opposite. They deeply submerge themselves wholly in their manufactured left wing identity and treat current events and far reaching geopolitical issues as a culture war. Don't forget that no one eats leftists like they eat their own if one dares to dissent or express an edgy (by their standards) opinion that doesn't fit perfectly with the reality they've constructed through liberal dissection of sociology and bullshit like critical theory, a practice which has ended up pushing many (but still not enough) people to centrism or rightism.

I know someone who with no ounce of irony (or self awareness for that matter) refers to anything that even slightly opposes hardline SJWism as "the other side".

Sorry but it is. If you think it's not corrupt corporatist horse shit then you're just a dumb fucking kraut.

EU is merely a way of channeling expropriated monies from taxpayers into private pockets; check out all the bids and grants coming out of it
now those who are most vocal about being in favour of the abominable union either benefit directly from said monies or are employed indirectly by some paper pushing bullshit body borne out of EU compliance or whatever
there're also virtue signallers out there but I think those will subside after experiencing cultural enrichment by themselves or by proxy through their children, elderly etc

left vs right wing politics in 2017 is a falsehood, they all serve the same master

Because they love to get raped

Cucks love a good raping

>corrupt corporatist horse shit

That's not necessarily right wing.
Left/right alone is not an accurate enough measure tho. But the EU is definitely authoritarian left.

left wing thinks it's magical piggy bank, the evil guys holding them down with their secret power riches, the right wing guys know it's a comfortable place to get some easy tax payer money, like so many governments
should all governments go like ancap says ? not sure
did eu just make a new law ? definitely. eu should go

there is simply no way anyone on the left will ever be against the eu

unironically this

the left loves getting scammed

syriza in greece are basically communists, being (((aushwitzed))) by evil germans, and they all massively vote to be in eu

I wish it would be destroyed.

Supranational being controlling the freedom of the people, capital, wealth - one such that is not liable to democratic decision making process & responsibility.

Pure communist cancer.

because muh globalism, no borders, refugee welcome

because they are propagandized fucking idiots

>Right winged
Yeah no.

There is the mainstream left (neo-liberals with right wing economics) then the actual left social democrats, greens and reds.

The actual left gets usurped by the neoliberal left ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

They just have to say "You don't have any credentials and we still need capitalism to grow"....


....then BAM they get funded, and have 1000% more power than the green & red socdems.

This. The average liberal normie bases their political views on feelings rather than facts. That's why they lap up the media propaganda rather than analyse the facts and use critical thinking to formulate an opinion.

factposter

>Why do the Left wing defend the European Union?

They don't.

Liberals support the EU. Socialists have opposed it since its creation.

>You don't have any credentials and we still need capitalism to grow
because something like that coming from the mouth of a communist sounds sane

>neo-liberal left

What insane political spectrum are you using that places Neoliberals on the "left"?

Neoliberals are right wingers.

You numpty.

It's a neo-liberal institution, when "left" wing what you're referring to is the neo-liberal wing of the left (social democrats). Now days people call them Blairites. For years in the UK anyway the left was always opposed to the EU (or the EEC), it was the neo-liberals in the Conservative party that was driving integration.

Indeed.

The EU is a right wing economic project. The Conservatives took us into Europe. It was opposed by the left.

Socialists up North voted in their droves for "Lexit", not "Brexit".

>Rightwing
>Siphons money from rich succesfull countries and dumps it in poor bottomless pits even tho all the experts told them itll only make shit worse

It was a rightwing economical project which worked absolutely brilliant from the start in the 1970s but it became a leftwing political project in the 90s which turned it into the overregulated mess it is now

The money doesn't vanish into a "bottemless pit", it goes straight back to the rich countries.

I knew you were british just by reading your comment.
It is not faceless, we got elections for the cabinet members in the EU parliament. It's just that Sup Forums hasn't caught up yet with these elections and you are too much of a retard to read/learn how EU parliament/comission works.

kys
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_bailout_referendum,_2015
61,8% leave the EU

> but it became a leftwing political project in the 90s

Nope.

The single market expanded in the 1990s. The EU bacame the single biggest trade bloc on the face o the planet with over 500 million consumers.

This is why it is still opposed by Socialists.

UK socialists voted to leave the EU.

Because it brought a state of freedom, peace and opportunities in an entire continents vs the mini nationalist shitholes pol masturbates to.

You can buy, sell, and trade your skill anywhere you like. That simple.

The people who oppose that are either:

a) idealess / uncreative, and so they hate those who can do something out of it, in a smurt "if I can't, no one else should" misery wants company way.

b) idiots who get too many loans they can't afford and then think its the bankers that did it. Or, you know, maybe dont treat the credit card as magic free money found in a ditch.

It is economically liberal and explicitly built on free market, OP is not wrong.

Because it's internationalism (more exact world would be "antinationalism") and a technocracy, leftists love that because they feel it's the best way to make social engineering without being impeded by the masses, see the position of population on mass immigration (pic related), if the EU was a democratic structures it would have been stopped a long time ago but the globalists confiscated the power at the extreme happiness of the left.

for the same reasons they defended the soviet union, which pretty much resembles.

>Why do the Left wing defend the European Union?

They literally hate White people and want to use the EU to transform Europe into a diverse, Marxist shithole.

(((Because the left wing is really this)))

They don't.

Stop confusing liberals with leftists.

ffs even Corbyn in your own country is anti-EU. He just has to half-heartedly defend it becuase Labour has been taken over by right-leaning Blairites.

Because They believe what the media tells them and all of their friends are equally brainwashed.

Doesn't matter though because we are leaving and it will fall apart soon enough.

>Because it brought a state of freedom
It brought 0 meaningful freedom, people lost the right to self determination and sovereignity just to pass the borders without presenting their ID (which is great help for illegal immigrants and terrorists proliferating in our countries).

>peace
The EU has no role at all in the actual state of peace, NATO, the castration of Germany and the vassalization of western Europe to the US are responsible of the current statu quo, not your bureaucrats who reveal themselves absolutely useless everytime there is a crisis.

>and opportunities in an entire continents
Opportunities for the 0,1% belonging to the globalist neo aristocracy and few crumbs for the rest of the upper class, while the middle and lower classes are confronted to massive wage dumping.
I don't even speak about economically with totally different structures who got destroyed by the euro, ask an italian or a spaniard what they think of your "opportunities".

Because corporations push SJWism

the greens do, only socialists and communists havea little bit anti eu sentiment (read eu not social enough).
but yeah it's the liberals in general who are most pro eu.

in the end you can't blame people for putting the blame on the left alone, they did sign into this neo-liberal project knowing fully what would happen

this

because, besides being the soulless machine you describe, it also represents absolute authority and autistic degrees of control over individuals, which is something that makes modern Left-wingers fucking HARD.

I know, the only young people I see benefit from the EU are middle class kids with their travelling and working abroad, who then tell the working class kids how great it is despite it screwing them over.

>EU is right wing

kek no: how a mega-burocratic sovrastructure that only produces more and more regulations/laws/sanctions meanwhile is central bank is full keynesian mode is fucking right wing?

Fake news and their "muh neo-liberalism" really cucked normies hard.

>middle class kids
champagner socialist upper middle class kids, the regular middle class doesn't benefit at all.

really though, i'm not having it too bad under the EU and i don't think any of you guys either.
i have problems with the following issues: too much bureaucracy, corruption by lobbying and corporations, vague democratic process, imprecise leadership (who the fuck is in charge), and general cowardice and military dependency towards the US. i'm not sure going back to a nationalist worldview will help anything though, I think we've outgrown that era. the implosion of the EU, if it occurs, will in the first stage bring back the old order of nations. but even that order is so imperfect and perishable. we're going to a world order alright, but it'll be an order that will be enforced almost unbeknownst to us.

Nice try Guy

How the fuck do you guys not just elect anti-immigration EU parliamentarians? Don't say it's not democratic, I know you guys have elections for that shit, and if those numbers are correct, you should have a fucking line of pillboxes stretching from the Bosporus to Gibraltar

Because the left wing wants to be part of the enormous beraucratic apparatus that the EU creates.

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the EU is a centralist institution. Both the right wing and the left wing are anti EU.

because that's not how the EU works. the agenda for the parliament is setup by a higher authority.
also they will just lock out the nationalist parties like they tested in belgium with the cordon sanitaire
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordon_sanitaire#In_politics

>How the fuck do you guys not just elect anti-immigration EU parliamentarians?

such parties are not allowed. and the moderate right-wing sells out, as always.

Technically yeah, in the 'international meaning' of the term, although in the UK 'middle class' is pretty much synonymous with the champagne socialist type

You guys gotta be kidding me. You're telling me EU parliamentarians can't vote on a law that lowers net immigration per year? Who is this higher authority?

oh they can vote, but the nationalist fraction is the smallest and is already full of pro eu parties like the belgian vlaams belang

and the higher authority are basically bigwigs of the european commision (former form of the EU) and some corporate shills that are in the top of the political elite. that's why the EU is undemocratic, you cannot vote for those guys

>You guys gotta be kidding me.
No. Racist policies are outlawed, and limiting mass immigration is racist.
>You're telling me EU parliamentarians can't vote on a law that lowers net immigration per year?
They don't have too much to decide anyway.
>Who is this higher authority?
EU council. And they repeatedly said the borders stay open
breitbart.com/london/2016/12/24/eu-chief-borders-must-stay-open/

FTFY

European Commission is legit unelected? Not even elected by members of parliament, or elected through party votes, or some other body? If so, that is fuckin nuts, and I don't know how anyone could be unironically pro-EU.

Regardless, I don't see how majorities of anti-immigration voters don't translate to at least action on the parliamentary level. You don't need to be a euroskeptic/nationalist to want to reduce immigration INTO the EU (rather than within -- although obviously I think both would be preferable)

I just read that the EU council is composed of heads of states from each member country. SO they are elected. Looks like you guys just need to collectively uncuck yourselves and elect pro-nativist politicians.

Cum to Polan and see all the Lidls, Tescos, UPCs, Leroys-Merlins usw.

Do you think they build them out of charity? Those days even Cuckians are not that charitable.

>EU
>Right wing
Kek no

one only can elect what the plutocracy proposes.
Sure, people are cucked, but who do you think will get the votes? Those cashing in milions in donations, or those who get targeted by mass propaganda on all levels? You live under the delusion the info you get here is commonly known overhere, it isn't, media is strictly censored and regulated.

Who do you think gets into that "Federal Convention"?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Germany#Election

The gibsmedats should stop too. It creates unbelievable corruption and they ate wasted sometimes on inane shit.

But the federal convention mirrors the bundestag according to that link. Vote in anti immigration parliamentarians and ultimately you get uncucked leadership at the top. Doesn't even have to be AfD, I know you guys got a bunch to chose from, surely other parties are for EU border integrity. Agree on the media situation being fucked. However, Trump won despite being outspent by $600 million and tarred as the second coming of Hitler, so it's not hopeless (not a Trump bootlicker, but if he actually builds the wall I might start)