Coming to terms with having kids

How does one come to terms with having kids? I grew up never wanting any, and I'm still not thrilled of the idea, but I know the importance of having stable, white families and communities in the future. I'm 25 now, I'm with the person who I'll probably marry, yet not financially stable nor mentally ready to have kids. Anyone here a parent? Anyone going through the same dilemma as me? Let's try to keep this discussion civil and free of shills.

27 had a daughter last year. You aren't really a man until you become a father. Not an insult to guys without kids but you definitely change.

Yeah I turn 21 in 5 days, been thinking similarly. Although I probably won't find a good woman to have them with and will just give up if it doesn't happen by like 30ish.

People used to have kids/stay together with the first person they fucked basically, back in the 70s and before. It was better that way desu.

And don't have kids too late. I'd say 35 is the latest. Imagine being 50 when your son is 15, sounds pretty bad to me. My parents are still in their 40s.

24 and had 2 kids by the time I was 18. Your life becomes a sacrifice. Not just to your kids, but to your ideals and principals, and to your nation/humanity. Well, if you're worth half a fuck anyway.

You're never ready to have kids. You just deal with it when it happens.

Would you say that's true for women too? Not really a women until a mother?

My mom had me when she was almost 40. I'm 25 now and my parents are retiring. I'd imagine having a few kids in my early-mid 30s wouldn't be so bad.

Planned or accident babies? Married? Still with baby's momma?

Accidental, not married, still with baby's momma SOLELY for their sake. They have no idea how bad things have been between their mother and I.

and yet jesus was a childless bachelor... hmm.. funny that.

what is this thread sliding? 3rd one I've seen in an hour

He was dead at 33. Your point?