Is buddhism bluepilled?

>you need to get rid of your greed, fear, lust and hate
>you need to not wan't anything in life

Doesn't that mean that i'm basically death then? If a human doesn't strives for something, is he even human?

Of course all these things cause suffering, being rejected, not having enough money, not getting what you want, etc, this all creates suffering.

But does it really mean that we NEED to erase this feelings? What would humanity be without lust and greed?

Life is suffering says buddha, so why not just kys when you first go to the buddhist monastery?

I don't get it

Buddhism is basically like those emo faggots who claim it would have been better had they never been born. Blue-pill express train.

Buddhism is dark bluepilled, almost blackpilled. It's a religion to make the masses feel virtuous about being losers. Rebirth is a great thing, and suffering and joy come from the same, evolutionary desire. Buddhism is the will to metaphysical suicide through physical self-denial.

buddhism is not about annihilation. it's understanding that all suffering is born of the mind and thus ultimately empty. by realising these states are only mind-made we can begin live a life oriented toward internal peace (nibbana).

If the buddhist cosmology is correct then its the ultimate red pill. If not, then dark blue.

All religion is bluepilled, as is agnosticism.

Only an outright, gnostic addmital that the idea of 'god' is preposterous is redpilled.

Sup Forums is too brainwashed with memes to see reality though.

There isn't any grand reason for life or existence. But we can make our own reasons in our everyday lives. We can be good & virtuous people without some book someone made up a few thousand years ago.

>Of course all these things cause suffering, being rejected, not having enough money, not getting what you want, etc, this all creates suffering.
The idea is that, to simplify, the only way to free yourself from suffering is to disattach yourself from all that could create it, which according to the teaching of Buddha, is desire.
Seeking what you want is the root of your suffering. Indulgence of any form will cause suffering at some point as a counter-reaction to temporary gratification.
>I don't get it
You're approaching this from a materialistic point of vie, and that is the exact opposite of what should be done if you want to understand buddhism. The religion is possibly the highest form of anti-materialism and pure spirituality as it rests on the idea of survivance of essence through reincarnation and the status of said essence being the most important thing. Your worldly possessions are merely temporary as when your current life ends, you will start anew and have lost everything but your essence, so the only "investment" you could do is in elevating your essence in hope of escaping the cycles of reincarnation.
In a sense Buddhism is highly misanthropic since it denies the value of life itself to affirm the value of an unperciptible everlasting soul.

>god is ebil

Gnostics are such edgy faggots. David Icke is a lunatic and a joke.

Gnostic would hold that everything in the world is fallen matter and any God present in this fallen world is actually either a demon imposter or a blind idiot. Behind all of this fallen matter may be a God you cannot have any direct knowledge of.

It's pure and simple cowardice.

Buddhism is resign. Plain and simple.
They only care about their own "suffering"

modern buddhism is a kike meme to help you forget they're stealing all your shit.

>You didn't even want that, goy. Yeeahh~~

>buddhism
Buddhism isn't a thing
you are either a Buddha or you're something else

Buddhists would view the Christian, Jewish and Muslim gods as subject to the Wheel of Karma, slaves to rebirth, and powerful but local gods tied to geographic points on the Earth and insane because they know all of this and are flailing hard trying to escape their attachments. Its actually more compassionate to ignore them all completely so they can move on.

There's a huge difference between "believers", "religious thinkers" and "esotericism"...

>There isn't any grand reason for life or existence

You're basically denying the objectivity of life
Just one more step to become the "everything is relative" guy.

Thanks for completing my line of though, you gay nigger gorilla.

To be fair while it's true that western/"secular"//new-age buddhism is absolute bullshit that only leads to complete self-centering for the mere sake of elevation and understanding, many sects of buddhism do try to create some form of social cohesion either with the guru-centered tibetan model or the schools of interdependence and mutual support.

You're welcome, my chimp nigga.

Heresy:

1. If anyone denies that there is one true God, Creator and Lord of things visible and invisible: let him be anathema.

2. If anyone dares to assert that nothing exists except matter: let him be anathema.

3. If anyone says that God and all things possess one and the same substance and essence: let him be anathema.

4. If anyone says that finite things, both corporeal and spiritual, or at least spiritual, emanated from the divine substance; or that the Divine Essence becomes all things by a manifestation or evolution of itself; or, finally, that God is a universal and indefinite being, which by determining itself makes up the universe which is diversified into genera, species and individuals: let him be anathema.

It should be remarked that in no way can it be said that the followers of these religions make a “loving, trusting flight toward God;” the gods they worship are pantheistic deities — devils in reality — and, ultimately, themselves. What greater insult can there be offered to the true God than the worship of man, which is the ultimate purpose of the religious practices of Hinduism and many other Eastern religions?

Also, the attitude of the Catholic Church towards Mohammedans and Jews has always been clear: there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. Even supposing a person were invincibly ignorant of the true Church, he must still follow the natural law to be saved (implicit baptism of desire). It is evident, according to Catholic theology, that these false and immoral religions are opposed to the natural law. The Fathers of the Church, as well as many true Popes, have been quite strong in their condemnation of these religions, and especially of Mohammedanism and Judaism, which have persistently attacked the Catholic Church throughout history.

Jainism is pretty good, not sure about mainstream buddhism.

why don't they just kill themselves if they don't want to experience life?

Because if you kill yourself, you'll experience an even worse life next.

that's just bullshit, though. there's no such thing as literal reincarnation.

Diamond sutra IIRC talks about the demonic being any person that leads others off the path. So anybody teaching new-age secular buddhism is demonic because it chains them more to the cycle of rebirth.

>They only care about their own "suffering"
explain this sentence in the context of the Bodhisattva ideal

wheel of samsara means everyone is doing the same things forever, it's pointless. it understands reality is non-linear and everything is temporary. your strivings are all temporary. buddhism seeks the eternal. So eternal beauty, eternal freedom. it's a lie to think money buys freedom, or that physical beauty is eternal beauty. You can keep having desires being merely a mechanism maintaining homeostasis, or you can be a human being, to be with complete freedom and understand that as schopenhauer has written, there is one subject and one object and we basically have on soul that progresses. the reason one lives for all and other is to understand this unity, to make the heroic action that gives up the illusion of self and its addiction to ignorance, in order to save the eternal soul of all humankind which finds it expression in love

Maybe it used to be. I looked into it, and you have to pay a hefty lump sum to join. Fuuuuuuuuck that, and fuck all these Indians trying to make money from western yuppies.

buddhism doesn't tell you to erase those feelings and desires, you are simply supposed to analyze them and discover the root causes of them.

you are to follow the noble eightfold path to reach enlightenment.

It is a cornerstone to the entire system that is buddhism. All of it only makes sense in the context of the reincarnation cycles.
These cycles are the explanation of the finite and painful thing that is the human condition (just like the original sin is in christianity) and one should struggle to escape it to reach the end of all suffering.
If you don't believe in an afterlife or a final judgment, christianity is essentially bullshit since it makes the world meaningless. If you don't believe in reincarnation, buddhism does not make any sense either.
There is a good reason why it never got any traction in Asia. new-age stuff like that was pretty much artificially created by westerners who were tired of the strict aspects of judeo-christian faiths and went looking for exitoc spirituality without moral or worship and buddhism fit the bill better than hinduism (that includes worship and a bit too much fatality to be seen as really positive), taoism (a dead-end of fatality until you understand the point of inaction and righteousness) or shinto (too grounded in its own context)

Stop using the word gnostic like that, you fucking retard.

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It fits into the same Christian concept of "Love one another": How much people actually do that? Almost nobody. Most people only cares about their own "green card" to heaven.

No it doesn't you fucking kiwi

You dont seem to have a good enough exposure to buddhism to start making sweeping statements like that. If you research buddhism through interest alone and not with any goal or final conclusion in mind, then you will have a better time discerning what buddhism is and probably find joy from it.

on the contrary, a buddhist or it's equivolent are the only people willing to live. they understand this concept that experience has no quality but quantity. there is a bit of crossover among many philosophies. stoicism, or in modern day the idea of the rebel by Camus. Camus believed the rebel is the only one really living, because he acts instead of reacts. The rebel seeks only a quantity of experience

it does m8

This is the most bluepilled description of Buddhism I've ever read. You should write for CNN.
This user kinda gets it, I wanted to add that Buddhism doesn't require it's followers to reach enlightenment or to do anything specific for that mattter. It's all about discovery of the self, there is no dogma, no rewards and no punishment. I guess that's why it never became widespread.

The Demiurge being the Blind, Ignorant and Jealous god. He is the Chief Archon, meaning the Lord of the OT.

Our realm of material matter is only a shadow of the true fathers Pleroma.

His Spiritual realm where the Aeons reside.

furthermore, this quantity shouldn't be confused. one who believes or understand this philosophy understands that one could sit and stare at a wall his entire life, and have a higher quantity of experience than someone who travels the world. it's all in the mind. This comes from the myth of sisyphis who has to push a rock up a hill for eternity and every time it falls down again. he becomes a rebel when he smiles on his walk down. Most people are repetitions, mechanisms. it has to do with freedom of mind and action, the environment does not determine your mind or actions, that is the rebellion. meanwhile decadent people switch scenes around, in gang bangs with all sorts of strange things going on to get at that desire that can't be filled. this is the stupidity of being in the wheel of samsara. they are blind. life is not in striving, it is most found in this freedom. ever notice how when something new happens, even if its shit it shakes you up our of your pattern? You crash your car. Don't you feel life's experience? the rich are bored, they plan. everyone plans, everyone's afraid, everyone has their little desires. everyone gets mad. People are spoiled, they want it just right. their steak is too cold, too hot, blah blah blah