Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Yes, expanding government provision into healthcare, education, employment, and charity is definitely anarchists.
This is why nobody takes communism serious, you have historical examples right now available that show you the contrary to what you claim and you smuggies dismiss it "not true communism, marx, lenin, or trotsky said "x""
It's not about what's hypothetically supposed to happen, it's about the reality of what actually occurred the last 12 times and will surely occur the next yet you persist. A communist older than the rebellious stage of 12-19 should fucking burn for being so wilfully ignorant.
Jeremiah Bailey
fuck off
Lucas Collins
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Christian Lewis
>he doesnt know about the soviet union, CHYNA, the norks, 'nam,etc.
maybe venezuela but thier leaders are starting to clamp down on things so idk
Jaxon Ward
honestly that whole stateless society angle is pretty bullshit, marx was wrong, bakunin was wrong, etc. There's a reason it's mostly just marxist-leninism in practice because without the leninism it's just autistic
Josiah Jackson
What you're referring to is red fascism, most commies aren't actually tankies.
Anyway, there have been real life examples of stateless communes, but you probably don't want to hear of them because it would destroy your lousy argument.
Liam Walker
>bash fa-
Logan Gutierrez
This, desu.. I'm a polisci major: I love to talk to people about their Ideologies, no matter how extreme, and especially if I disagree with them, but there's something about commies that makes them so insufferably frustrating to converse with. Being a former Democuck and a person who actively searches the net for political subcultures to talk about, I thought I'd like /leftypol/, but all those ignorant faggots are so narrow-minded they can't even hold a decent conversation. Sure, this reddit-infested shithole isn't that great itself, but at least the brainless retards who frequent here have the openness to consider your opinion if you convince them you're one of them.
Evan Taylor
back in the summer of 72' i learned communists make excellent compost.
I was driving home after a long day at the office and at a busy intersection, a bunch of coons, chinks and pasty fat kids were blocking the road with communist propaganda signs and an arm-link fence. this was the 4th time in 3 months. it was time to do something about it.
I got out, walked to the back of my car, and tore my license plate straight off. I then got back in, put on my driving shades, and hit the gas. the shrieks of terror and the thumping of their now-dead bodies colliding with my vehicle were the stuff of nightmares. apparently the sight of so many of their members being killed in the line of duty scared off the rest of those filthy stalinists, because before i knew it, anyone whose head was not splattered against the bumper of my car was now running for the hills, screaming all the way.
I had no idea if anyone had called the police in the ensuing panic yet, so i rightfully decided to book it. as i was running to the back of my car to try and reaffix the license plate in case any potential cops on the way home took notice, i thought to myself, "i can't walk away from something this big without some kind of souvenir." At first i thought id take one of their signs, but that would be too big to hide. Then i saw it: a severed hand, torn straight from the arm of some red cunt. At this point, i decided i'd do something interesting with it. You see, i had a small chili plant i kept on my windowsill that i felt hadn't received any type of nutrition for a long time, and seeing how worthless communists inherently are, i decided it was time that one of them was given a purpose in life. I wrapped the hand in some tissues, and when i got home, i lifted the pepper with all the dirt out of the pot and placed the hand at the bottom. to this day, those are the damn best tasting peppers ive ever had.
Jose Hill
>you probably don't want to hear of them because it would destroy your lousy argument. Well, I actually would like to hear about those, particularly what you think of them and what implications/examples those cases could have for the rest of society.
Brody Watson
>This is red fas- K E K communism needs a heavy state influence on its people, cuck.
I mean, so you, after all those ""minds"" behind "communism" (Wich is an ideology that has never been tried before, because It. Will. Not. Work) YOU found the solution to bring joy and happiness to all mankind? fuckin burger
Jack Bailey
What has been tried is: socialism
Wich is a failure aswell
Caleb Diaz
Which*
Bentley Gomez
In both capitalism and socialism the lower classes are poor, miserable and treated like slaves.
At least under capitalism we at least get to choose what food we buy and what brainwashing we watch instead of having the state dictate it.
Aiden Sanchez
Capitalism is the real image of human nature: "Survival of the fittest"
The unlucky ones blame capitalism and defend communism
Lucas Perry
Isn't there countries that are communist today where everybody gets paid for nothing?
Kevin Lee
Yeah, this first world niggers think they have it bad.
I want to drag their fuckin nigger asses down to South America and force them to live under Maduro's rule, I mean, while the US uses policemen and non-lethal weapon to contain violent protests, Maduro uses his military to kill anyone who dare to do ANY kind of protest against him, needless to say that his people are poor and suffer a lot
Easton Moore
That's called tribalism the fundamental difference is that religion, race or nation oversaw the well-being of said communes and hence didn't create a need for government to implicate methods of distribution by force.
But seeing as communism attempts to destroy the latter in all aspects and opposes tribalism/creed, you're left with the necessity of a nanny government to ensure "proper" sharing.
Parker Gutierrez
b r a z i l
Meet "Bolsa Familia" a social program that gives unemployed poor people money from the people that actually work AND pay BIG taxes.
I mean, an Iphone here costs like 4.000 reais (Most of it are taxes), that would be $12.800 dollars.
Leo Butler
This
The biggest commie cancer had H U G E control over its people, that's why they were really corrupt, all of the money was owned by the government
Hunter Cook
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Isaac Cooper
Tell me commies, when the Soviets, Yugos, Norks, or Chinese meet in their chambers of commerce do you believe they discuss the tenants of marxism, leninism, or maoism? Or do you believe they discuss stock dividend, defense budget and price/cost/profit of potential trade transactions?
It's surely the latter and the reason is and always has been because communist at heart as in the leaders know that it is an inevitably flawed system and use it as a method to practice corporatism while the people or worker live in a "utopia" comprised of minimal living standards and the new ruling class squander resources/profits on themselves and expansive defense budgets.
Atleast the Soviets were intelligent enough to realize this and kept the people content by constant expansion and abuse of one economy to the next to produce "progress" but so soon as that expansion stopped it crumbled. You are just the useful idiots that support a means of government and corporate expansion that no other system of governance could dream to match.
Atleast in the capitalist world the wolf remains a wolf in appearance and you have the courtesy of knowing it's out to fuck you therefor people demand laws are implemented to prevent such. In communism the wolf becomes the government and will deny you service or worse if you dare to expose it.
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
