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A cohesive, disciplined unit is the backbone of any defense or offense in a large scale situation. Learn how to coordinate and train with your brothers:
Even implementing this on a small scale (10 people) is enough to make a massive difference during any confrontations.
Pick a leader by merit. The one who can fight the fiercest and has the strongest spirit, one who rouses inspiration. Be humble and be brothers together.
Although the riots that anti-fa have organized have been weak, don't get smug or comfortable. Take every chance to learn and optimize. Making America Great again starts with making yourself great and inspiring others.
Anti-fa and "black bloc" is effective because of their organization. We have the advantage now with a fresh victory, let's not waste it.
There are many other resources/guides to mention, but let's start simple.
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I have nothing to contribute, but i like your post.
Samuel Young
You only need this :
The ability to deal with people is as purchasable a commodity as sugar or coffee and I will pay more for that ability than for any other under the sun.
- John D. Rockefeller
The one commanding the armies has more power than any other man even a perfect aryan 8 feet musuclar blue eyed greek god looking chad with 100000 merits in combats and undefeated
The idea isn't to imitate this, but to gain inspiration and modify it for our modern situation.
Testudo formation is still used by riot police during projectile attacks.
Benjamin Allen
>that image
W-why all the spears up top? Surely just the big forward pointy bits is enough to get people to move or be skewered. Are they replacements waiting to roll down once the first kebab is done?
Another thread mentioned the use of roman standards and whistles to maintain or move formations, which I think is a very good idea. One long whistle for shield wall, 3 small whistle blows for advance etc, using the standard bearer's position as the frontline.
Even basic airsoft helmets and shields could be used very well if the group had some defensive formation training. Basic Testudo comes to mind against antifa projectiles. Having the same gear also causes enemy intimidation
Liam Torres
>Learn how to coordinate and train with your brothers:
Sign me up! If only there (((someone))) who could train me and point me at the right target.
Sebastian Morris
bump
Alexander Perry
The use of formations and disciplined anti-fatigue rotation protocols are important, although advanced.
Obviously not everyone lives near or close to each other, but even training in a small unit of 5-10 people is effective.
If 10-20 units that are trained organize during a riot, there could be extremely effective control of the situation. That would be the hope. Beyond that, keeping in control with other units and standardizing training would be excellent. One step at a time.
Cooper Flores
A flag standard like this, but a golden lion head (Trump) instead of the boar, legion number and state. Another Berkeley situation for example could be dealt with by legion 'LEG XI CA', it would look great
Nathan Sanchez
Check the NRA website for local fire arms training near you.
Combat training (hand to hand, knife, hand gun, rifle) is taught at many fire arm schools if you wish to go that far. Not necessary but could be very helpful.
Cooper Powell
Yes, everyone having their spears pointed forward would be useless (there's no enemies in the middle of your formation) and dangerous (if the front line gets pushed back, they'll get hit by a friendly spear from the back) Also would be much more tiring
Zachary Nelson
I also propose that those who live near and close to areas with a lot of anti-fa riots organize.
These tactics don't necessarily need to be offensive, but defensive. If they are willing to throw firecrackers and commit physical violence, organization is keep to protecting our brothers and eliminating any threats to our families and loved ones.
Having small local units in contact is a must, organizing a once a month training session with multiple groups would be great. If a couple of groups met at one protest they should merge. Split each group into small ones led by a Decanus (8 man squad leader) who have radio contact between each other and you can change formations very quickly
Adrian Morales
Excellent reference.
I would note as well for those outside the US, especially our brothers in europe, should learn to organize as well.
When there is a riot of muslims or refugees in your neighborhood and the "police" aren't there yet, how do you protect yourself? Organize.
Parker Thompson
FPBP
Xavier Parker
I agree, unfortunately in main cities it is VERY difficult to organize (londoner here) when there is no homogeneity, and your neighbours either don't know you or don't like you.
Protests are also quite rare her, unlike for you guys where it seems to be increasing in both frequency and violence. Also, here police are almost always present, mostly to prevent the muslims or anti from getting hurt, which makes it harder to put them down. Even if the police line broke, they like to arrest patriots and organised locals for 'assault' when the other scum get a free pass to throw bottles and bricks.
Aiden Foster
Macedonian phalanx. It protect vs arrows volley and the like. Unless the projectile is perfectly aligned with the phalanx's direction it will hit someone's shaft and lose all momentum and orientation. A trick that helped Alexander the Great tremendously.
Jaxon Thompson
But I have a herniated disc. I don't know if it'll heal.
Gavin Martinez
You can still help with logistics. While you may be unable to participate directly, you can organize people and supplies.
Ryder Wood
I'm a bit of a brainlet but I'm going back to school so maybe I'd be able to be useful. Thanks
Asher Collins
Do you not have any brothers in arms or even like minded friends?
Some sort of cohesive solidarity and ideology is important if we're going to keep winning the cultural war against degenerates.
Nathan Cox
Everyone is useful, even if not physically. Mental, along with physical strength and agility is important.
Any one else in here have ideas for organizing outside of the chans? Best thing I have done so far is talk to folks in my gun club, although they are older folks.
Younger folks need to be folded in and educated, the older generation is more focuses on simply protecting their own land and family instead of going out into the "front lines" so to speak in the city.
Elijah Watson
My best friend and his brother would help, they're quite redpilled. Unfortunately that's about it for me I think, London is just a lost cause in a way most people don't understand.
My family are the only white English on family on the street, when I finished school a few years ago I was the only white person in the class. This whole situation is fucked. We're looking to move far out to the countryside and build up there, it's the only way to find other true brits and push back.
Robert Phillips
I wonder how Shaka Zulu's horns of the bull tactics would work in a modern environment. They were especially designed for forces with mediocre training and coordination. Easy to apply but effective.
Jayden Torres
Sup Forums, since the time is becoming more readily upon us to defend our values in the streets. We aren't gonna get bullied by these shit-huffers anymore. But what we need is unity, they have their laughable "black bloc" tactics. So why don't we create something similar, counter to it, and wear that to defy them? Something simple, reproducible, in stark contrast to theirs, and most importantly; reflective of our values.
I have some ideas about a counter garb and armament, as well as some sort of literature about how to organize at the event and before-hand to defeat any leftists who would dare strike at America's true sons.
Thoughts?
James Rodriguez
Noticing more threads about this lately; here you go OP . . .
>Making America Great again starts with making yourself great and inspiring others. I am proud to have sorted myself out. The strength of any group comes down to the strength of the individual. Make yourself great to make your family great. Make yourself great to make your community great. Make yourself great to make your nation great.
It all comes down to you and me and making ourselves the best we can be. That's why I'm ROLLAN FOR PUSHUPS
Brayden Fisher
17? fuck that noise. ROLLAN AGAIN
Ryan Hill
>We're looking to move far out to the countryside and build up there, it's the only way to find other true brits and push back.
I commend you for your initiative. Good luck, and if anyone can be of assistance, let us know.
Sup Forums and other orgs should always help out our kind and our brothers.
Jeremiah Morgan
we're comparing benis size now?
Cameron Long
We need a more permanent organizational method than Sup Forums.
There's no need to meet up if we're dispersed geographically but we should keep posting material regarding how to improve ourselves and how to defend our rights and freedoms.
Any suggestions on any other methods of organization? I would suggest a similar anonymous manner, since there will be many who seek to destroy or spy on our activities.
The organizational manner must be resistant to shills and others who wish to spread FUD and concern, while keeping the quality of posting high.
Would a website with a heavily moderated forum be better? Accessible by ToR or another secure manner?
>Any one else in here have ideas for organizing outside of the chans? any place that offers non-McDojo martial arts is not a bad place to start.
Nicholas Cook
I'd say we face a series of simply hurdles.
1: Organizing training days and large numbers of people would cost time, money and resources we lack.
2: We are geographically very distant from each other and of differing means.
3: If we try to form a coherent organization it WILL be infiltrated by the FBI and we will probably end up being tagged as potential terrorists and taken down in a huge sting.
Solution: Decentralized training and preparation. If we assemble essentially a handbook containing standardized tactics, drills etc. which are practiceable with 1-5 people, but which scale up well, then anyone interested can create a "cell" per-se which is capable of joining with others for a larger engagement. This is more or less how terrorists function, except that our intention is not to sow terror or destroy buildings, but to protect our people and fight Antifa criminals. The question is, what style of combat favors small autonomous units which can be applied in this manner? Suggestions to follow.
Luke Lee
There's a few ideas, but the problem with anonymity is that we can't check who is among our ranks and remove saboteurs. Discord is an obvious answer, but I'm not sure how safe it is.
Could create an AWS server, but the problem there is its tied to a real world name and credit card.
Josiah Adams
Sacred Band of Thebes tactics? Groups of two trained to fight alongside other pairs which works all the way from 2 up to a few hundred members.
Joseph Price
>AWS server can you use a pre-paid credit card and not give your name?
Ayden White
>Would a website with a heavily moderated forum be better? Accessible by ToR or another secure manner?
I'm not that interested in yet another online format; seems like it might have a place, but I'm interested in developing some additional skills. From the number of recent radio threads, I've been learning more about using radio and studying for my amateur license. Some resources that might appeal:
AMRRON Sparks31 DanMorgan76 bushbeater
Isaiah Rivera
>Sacred Band of Thebes tactics? is this a meme?
Bentley Green
In a perfect, stable world he does, I agree 100%. In a state of utter upheaval, his status no longer matters and he becomes another victim if he can't rise to the occasion.
Camden Phillips
Yes, yes, we all know about that. I'm talking about small unit tactics and they were famous for their effectiveness. I'm just talking about history, since this is basically Bronze Age era combat.
You may be able to use a pre-paid credit card. Once you have the server up you would just need to run like an IRC client out of that server and chat through there.
I hang out with a local MC because my brother is in a leadership position. They are right wing and gun owners with their own private range. I already know my brother is going to call me to organize with them if something ever happens.
Juan Reed
Also, the two links I posted have some very specific recommendations for carrying out the type of activity you are proposing. Extremely detailed
Parker Lewis
>I'm talking about small unit tactics and they were famous for their effectiveness. my quick searches didn't turn up much of anything regarding their tactics - most of what i could find was based around their history and the types of engagements they fought it. can you supply a link to the tactics you're referencing?
Hunter Barnes
Appreciated.
Joshua Johnson
Good points
A sort of 'hand book' could be devised and worked on in a wiki. It should be made extremely clear it is a defensive unit and training to protect ourselves from attacks. Also a way of enhancing one's health and livelihood to protect themselves and their families.
I'm not advocating for violence against people or other groups, just for protecting ourselves since it's become rapidly apparent that having traditionalist views is now viewed as unacceptable and "reasonable" to respond with to violence by anti-fa
Henry Johnson
The Enemy: Antifa has demonstrated a total lack of ability to organize and effectively engage enemies in melee. Their tactics boil down to "achieve local superiority in numbers, swarm isolated targets," and nothing else. They are, essentially, a mob, and their greatest weakness is a total lack of morale and combat ability. They are weak people who are terrified of their enemies.
Solution the First: Skirmishing Tactics Thrown weapons are deeply underestimated as weapons in riots. During the Venetian Bridge Wars, tradesmen would walk around town with iron balls in their aprons, to be thrown at rivals in the event of an ambush. In our case, imagine each man simply carried metal weights--like fishing sinkers, say--to throw at the enemy in the event of an attack. This would be rapid, decisive, and terrifying. Cringing Leftists hate and fear missiles, especially missiles that might actually hurt. Coupled with rudimentary training in fisticuffs to defeat this who avoid the barrage, this sounds like a decisive tactic. Its weakness is that it might work TOO well, and result in police intervention when dozens of faggot antifas end up seriously injured.
Solution the Second: The Manipular System. The Romans adapted their tactics to fight against the Samnites in the hills of Italy. Contrary to popular belief, the Romans were not still, orderly formation fighters by choice, they preferred to operate in small groups and to create swirling melees which disadvantaged the spearmen they often fought in Magna Graeca. The short sword and the large scutum shield were ideal for this style of fighting. We can emulate these tactics through the use of riot-shield style weapons and truncheons or clubs. Small groups of men trained to watch each others' backs will defeat any number of untrained Antifas in this regard. The downsides of this strategy are, again, that it may be too effective and that it necessitates a weapon.
Dominic Hill
>It should be made extremely clear it is a defensive unit and training to protect ourselves from attacks. this is the correct way to go about this; well said.
"When planning communications for a Patrol, we use the PACE acronym, standing for Primary, Alternate, Contingency, Emergency."
When organizing for events, we should have alternative means for communication outside of pol and the chans.
Gabriel Campbell
>A sort of 'hand book' could be devised You mean like these? --Both of these books are extremely detailed in the forming, organizing and training for the type of activity you are proposing. Not sure if the author visits pol, but they seem written to appeal to and motivate a pol-type audience to action.
Hunter Scott
>When organizing for events, we should have alternative means for communication outside of pol and the chans.
What about a discord or whatsapp group? Make new groups for each event to avoid easy infiltration.
Jack Howard
I would also state that any injured (on any side) should be taken care of as fast as possible.
Learning from Castro, he won people over by helping out the soldiers he fought by treating them with dignity. We should do the same. The more people we can show that our side is truly better, the better we spread our way of life and thinking.
Ryan Garcia
bushbeater has a lot of good material; very specific and actionable. A useful guide for getting some things in order locally, which is where the action will be happening.
William Price
>lead group of about 25 in an online game >two thirds don't follow orders >about half of the 25 dick around in a completely different location >only a third uses comms >lose battles left and right >people wonder why we're losing >kick two thirds from the group Communication, coordination, command chains and obedience are key. I keep wondering why some people join groups to do shit if they're not following orders, just do their own thing and, during this, sometimes even complain about the whole group failing.
Robert Lee
>I would also state that any injured (on any side) should be taken care of as fast as possible. i also agree with this 100%. something that i really enjoyed seeing at this last Battle of Berkeley were the medics on our side - they had the red cross on their helmets and carried a good bit of gear for helping those who needed it and appeared to do a decent job of helping anyone who needed it. i remember hearing that ourguy Sparta USA got bear sprayed several times over the course of the day and the medic's helped him get back to the front lines asap. the amount of good and good PR defensive tactics and medic's generate cannot be overstated.
Wyatt Clark
All of those skills are learned.
We should expect to run into those issues anywhere.
However, good tactics and victories will raise morale for any unit. A simple 10 man unit that stands strong will win easily against an anti-fa riot.
Brody Perry
1 start backpacking group to weed out the week 2 start training with walking sticks 3 no political talk no gun talk just hike 4 no talking during marches 5 have fun get the community involved do good works be visible don't hide your face or be confrontational. 6 no imagery just the American flag
Jeremiah Hill
I was a commanding officer at the battle of polo street. We were ambushed on all sides and forced to fall back. Luckily there was construction going on so we rallied around the site, commandeered some 2x4s and garbage can lids, we marched back in formation and and drove our way back across the line. I look forward to leading more men in battle
my advice if you are going to these things is buy some MMA gloves. Remember, knock outs are generated by the brain rattling around inside the head, and the gloves don't cushion against that impact. What they are really doing is reinforcing your hands to protect the small commonly broken bones in your fist. You will be able to bash far more heads with a protected hand than with bare knuckes that are cracking and getting torn up a little more with each punch
normalfags don't realize that's what the purpose of gloves is and think they are meant to protect against head injury. so you can use that as a defense if you are arrested "I was hoping it wouldn't happen but I wore these so in case I had to defend myself I wanted to make sure I did as little harm as possible when driving off the attacker"
Cooper Watson
oh and don't be a larping faggot
Ryder Martin
It seems that street violence is really all the rage these days
Oliver Allen
>at this last Battle of Berkeley were the medics on our side - they had the red cross on their helmets and carried a good bit of gear for helping those who needed it and appeared to do a decent job of helping anyone who needed it.
We should standardize units as much as possible and their gear to help keep our standards high during any defensive confrontation.
Medics Scouts Shield Commander
I think effective street tactics will help scare off any potential confrontations as well. If we divide their ranks and flank them, they will scatter and run, potentially lowering the number of injured people on both sides, while leaving us with the PR victory.
Michael Robinson
these are better
Isaiah Barnes
>They are, essentially, a mob, and their greatest weakness is a total lack of morale and combat ability. They are weak people who are terrified of their enemies. i don't belive this can be refuted at this point and in all honesty i don't really antifa ever gaining morale or training (how'd all that lifting and boxing training go, eh breh's? lol)
>Thrown weapons are deeply underestimated as weapons in riots. VERY much this - i've always liked the idea of nets; hockey nets, soccer nets, weighted nets for throwing, ect
David Price
It would be really nice if we didn't have to do this, but after all the attacks that we've had on our brothers, it's best we organize to defend ourselves.
Black bloc attacks in a cowardly manner and seeks to sow distention, fear, uncertainty, and doubt. We should counter that with a strong, united message and make ourselves known.
Aiden Rivera
If people would just follow orders, it wouldn't be as bad, but they just refuse to, even after being told several times.
Yes, a well coordinated group with good communication and a good leader can do wonders, even when being outnumbered. Proven all the time in our training sessions.
Dylan Williams
There's no need for excessive violence or for killing people. That's probably the dumbest thing to do- it will further isolate our causes and make more people turn away from our views and way of life (traditionalism, conservatism).
I would argue to any on this board that those advocating violence are: 1. Trolling/Shills 2. FBI or other three letter agencies 3. Hot-headed idiots who just like violence.
We should not follow that model if we really care about our way of life.
Excellent resource. I'm keeping a running list of resources to repost once we hit a bump limit on this thread. Much appreciated brother.
Kayden Ross
This. Nobody should ever advocate violence. The advocates of violence are the ones looking to get our movement (((shut down))). Everything we do is to counter the black bloc and to ensure that our events go off without coercion to back down.
Easton Morales
I only wish I had a way to upload all my books to you but I can't find all of them on the clearnet. Warfighting is one of the only ones I can find.
Hudson Howard
>There's no need for excessive violence or for killing people. one of the reasons i really like the idea of nets as weapons
Owen Sullivan
well said user
Michael Garcia
Amen.
We need to counter the label "Nazi" or "far-right" by any means possible to ensure that our views become more palatable to those on the ground. The media will keep slandering us, but if we consistently prove the media wrong in our daily lives, folks will see through it easily and join us.
Jackson Cruz
protip: if you do get punched in the nose, DO NOT BLOW YOUR NOSE; watch what happens to Eddie Alvarez's left eye as he blows his broken nose.
Zachary Diaz
"Fascist" just means anti-antifascist to the normie now. You can parrot the line, "since 1945 do we even know what a fascist is anymore? It's a politically irrelevant term. As far as I'm concerned it just means that we oppose these antifa." It's amazing how quickly you can get normie Trump supporters/conservatives to don that label. Antifa gave us a softball with that one.
Parker Rivera
>"Fascist" just means anti-antifascist to the normie now.
I would disagree. The term conjures us italy and Germany during WWII or North Korean style despotism. I'm speaking of people who aren't even politically very active. Just your normal Joe or Jane.
Conservative supporters shouldn't take on any labels that Joe or Jane wouldn't understand or pick up on right away.
There's a reason politics on the news are all in sound bites and not in lengthy essays or documentaries. It's just got to be short and sweet enough to stick into the plebs minds, it doesn't need substance.
Hence why certain video clips of ~10-15 seconds are shown over and over again on the news. They want that to stick, nothing else. That's human nature. We have to realize that and use it to our advantage.
We win by using proven methods. Good ideas come from all places.
Can you document what methods worked and didn't? I.e. what helped turn things around, simply the presence of some weapons? The initial charge?
Cameron Cox
Oh yeah that's not good for them. I'm talking about the younger ones you find at the rallies/protests. I think the best thing we could do is grow the altright by any means necessary to the point where our arguments are parroted on Fox News. We need to be a large enough constituency in the next generation that we can't be politically ignored and silenced. When pro-white policies are debated in the public sphere, they won't lose. We will consolidate the white vote like the blacks or the Jews, where 80-90% vote for one party.
Julian Richardson
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Ethan Taylor
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Chase Anderson
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Caleb Baker
Do not make or seek out formal groups, keep everything of importance offline and in person, become friends with local comrades you have known for a long time, practice self defense skills every day, preferably 1 hour but even 15 minutes a day is a good start. Use as private and secure communication channels as you can (Wire, Signal, Riot.im, gpg), trust nobody, get an attorney, get self defense insurance. Avoid the right wing circle jerk George Lincoln Rockwell had to contend with of merely "meeting, eating, and retreating." We are more numerous then our enemies think and closer to each other then we realize. Train as teams as much as possible. Avoid drinking as much as possible.
Josiah Taylor
pic related is what worked in the Ukraine according to the user who posted the pic VERY IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE A MOUTHGUARD