Why aren't you a communist, Sup Forums?

Why aren't you a communist, Sup Forums?

Because there's more to a business than maneuvering physical tools

because it doesn't work

The results.

Because communists sell liberation and deliver slavery.

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because i like eating every day

It fail to adress basic society issues.

It also turns out to be more restrictive than it looks, and the implementation always means a lot of risks.

>be self employed
>communist dream achieved without a violent 10mil+ death revolution

wew

Just buy shares you fucking inbred retard, you as a worker already CAN own the means of production, provided you can afford it.

Plus you get to own private property. How can communism even compete?

Because I want an economic system that isnt as useless as a mcdonalds ice cream machine.

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because I am not retarded
Communism is a fever dream of a twisted epicurean
if russians weren't starving to death in 1917, we probably would be discussing a much better ism

this.

all it does is create a race to the absolute bottom of doing nothing.

if everyone owns everything, then everyone owns nothing.

piggybacking off your slide thread to shill my better thread

WHY THE FUCK IS IT ALWAYS BROKEN

Mostly because it just plain doesn't work. If you remove incentive from work you just get soldiering compounded over time.

It would work if people were moral and naturally everyone was a hardworking person. It reads great. The reality of humanity is a pretty big chunk of us are lazy, leeching, greedy, stupid pieces of shit. This is why communism doesn't work.

We aren't hardwired for it, no matter how you look at it pragmatically it will fail. It always has.

Competition breeds success, and without it you just get idiocracy.

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Right?

2 people diging a hole. Both payed equaly. One guy understands that he can slack off and still be payed as much. The other guy looses all incentive to work harder because he isnt being payed more to do that.

I like having food and not starving

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>niggers
>Asia doing damn fucking good under a mostly capitalist system
>Spics are too busy fighting over a loaf of bread to get their shit together.

communism sucks.

If white people can't make it work, then its doomed to fail.

>Africa
South Africa
Namibia
Kenya
Morocco
>Asia
Japan
Korea
Taiwan
Singapore
China
India
>Latin America
Brazil
Chile
Costa Rica
Mexico

Many of these countries still have massive issues, but their economic systems are not.

not an argument

>If you work it, you should control it.
Tell that to Kim Jong Un, Castro's ghost and Hugo Chavez's ghost. The fact remains, someone is always at the top. Someone has to dole out the meager rations.

not an argument

Fuck commies

If a business wants to take a chance and adopt that model then it's up to them. There are a couple of success stories of employee owned and run businesses. But only a couple. This user is right. It simply doesn't work. This is a decision for the workers and individual firms to make and not something to be imposes by government action.

>Work for Publix Super Markets
>Invest 401k into Publix stock, buy Publix stock (only available to employees), and just given Publix stock for working there
>Literally own the means of production in a capitalist grocery store

I like to pay $200000 to fix a broken arm. Capitalism is the best because the competition. I can just go to the other hospital which also costs the same.

The idiots at my factory would run it into the fucking ground. You underestimate the stupidity of the average American. Communists are just bitter losers who can't reconcile the fact they are not as successful as a business owner who worked hard to get where they are while they dropped out of college to smoke pot.

>Posts an image that claims Africa, Asia, and Latin America, have no successful capitalist nations
>Give examples that prove the claim false

>Not an argument

What did he mean by this?

>I should own your factory because you let me work in it once
sounds reasonable

Why should I believe in an ideology that always fails in practice?

When all cases of inevitably failed communism is dismissed by communists by "that wasn't real communism"?

If Communism in practice always turn into state capitalism and the means of production never return to the workers but instead are seized by the government, then why should I believe in it?

look at any communist country at any point in history
would you live there?
yeah didnt think so

Because I'm not a mouth breather with a sub-80 IQ

>Cuba
>everyone drives vintage 1950's style cars

low key richest country on earth.

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Human nature is incompatible with communism and the only way to make it compatible is cruel bondage that leads to corruption and tyranny

its a totally unrealistic concept and thus always unworkable in reality
it's like thinking Sup Forums is one person
assuming retarded shit is no way to promote capitalism or argue against communism
literally zero peeople give a fuck about communism
the only tards throwing the word around are pathetic retarded shills like you, faggot OP, who desperately pine for the good old cold war like a good goycuck

>uses pic about unions to pretend unions have anything to do with communism

old faggoty fucktard detected
get off Sup Forums faggot
putin aint here dig
go fuck yo sef

yes. because it makes total sense for the government to nationalize healthcare and pick up that 3 trillion dollar a year tab.
lets just DOUBLE the federal budget overnight and have no way to pay for that extra 3 trillion
>fyi, total revenue for FY 2016 was 3.5 trillion with total expenditures @ 4 trillion.

>Africa
>capitalist
>Asia
>capitalist
>Latin America
>capitalist

> work it
> control it

controlling requires more time than there would be to have something left to work it

????

communism is insanity and look at best korea

>pointing out that your non argument is an argument

Not an argument

just look at the east side of your country and it explains it.

on that note, how is the income disparity between the old West Germany and the old East Germany in 2017?

>doesn't work
>turned a bunch of third world shitholes that gave hell to the industrialised superpowers for half a century
>spreads across half the globe
>dies from political tensions

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Redistribute your food, Jason.

Communism:
Turned shitholes into shitholes with worse architecture.
Capitalism:
Turned Jungle Asian shithole Singapore into one of the best places on the planet.

>Why aren't you a communist, Sup Forums?

If you go on reddit or /leftypol/ and highlight actual problems you get censored and banned, like in the USSR

No fucking thanks

Over on this side you always get to speak your mind

Explain how communism wouldn't work in a post-scarcity society. You can't. Communism is the natural final stage of society after automation.

It does matter, robots are gonna everything and were all gonna live like KANGZ within our lifetime, all modern day communist do is being drug abusing degenerates and enablers of "cultural enrichment". There is no real to be a communist but even if there was I don't want the average self described communist of current day HAVING any say in my affairs whatsoever.

Read Fate of Empires. If you think humans have never experienced like post scarcity before, you're wrong. All it leads to is decadence, and decadence to death.

India is still socialist and a shithole due to that.

Maybe in a society where everyone is of the same race and intelligence it could MAYBE work. Otherwise with this "equality" shit they spew so much about nah it aint gonna work.

I wouldn't know how to allocate resources.

this.

as my gf has come to finally understand, communism can only work when the entire population thinks alike, acts alike, behaves alike, and looks alike. a pure homogeneous society.

basically unless everyone is a clone, its not gonna work.


you might get a few hundred people to do this as they could self-police, but try getting a million people all on the exact same fucking page, and telling them all to stay on that exact page and never deviate.

>Build a car
>let someone test drive the car you built
>they own it now

It doesn't work.

Also, the means of production do not simply manifest; they are created through the investment of capital.

It's morally wrong to ignore the contributions capital (and consequently, capital owners) make in ensuring that production occurs.