Lost History

I dont believe the story of the origin of our people is right, about the start of our civilizations, and the age of our species. When you just look at how much (((they))) lie about what was 70 years ago (WW2), how much do they lie about things that are 100 years ago? 500 years? 2 millenia? 10 millenia? a million years? or 100 million?

theepochtimes.com/n3/1416662-200-million-year-old-stone-bears-words-chinese-communist-party-collapses/
>In June 2002, a 270 million-year-old “hidden words stone” was discovered in Guizhou, China. A crack that formed 500 years ago in a large stone revealed six clearly discernible Chinese characters; the characters represent “The Chinese Communist Party Collapses [Zhong Guo Gong Chan Dang Wang].”

theepochtimes.com/n3/704738-2-8-billion-year-old-spheres-found-in-south-africa-how-were-they-made/

There are stories from civilwar about pterosaurs and american natives talk about the thunderbird which could be such one.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokele-mbembe
This is described to look like a longneck dinosaur, and was allegedly seen africa.

There are fossilized footprints of humans that are 290 million years old
ancient-code.com/290-million-year-old-human-footprint-has-researchers-scratching-their-heads/

There are rocks showing humans and dinosaurs together
ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/do-ica-stones-prove-mankind-coexisted-dinosaurs-advanced-technology-098989

TL;DR: Humans have been around a lot earlier than we are told, and Dinosaurs stayed around for a lot longer than we are told, and there were advanced civilizations even before the Sumerians

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Swabia
ancient-code.com/scientists-geological-evidence-shows-the-great-sphinx-is-800000-years-old/
gobeklitepehaber.com/haber/8387/haleplibahcede-magaralar-kaderine-terk-edildi.html
haberler.com/sanliurfa-da-kizilkoyun-projesi-ile-59-magara-gun-3929299-haberi/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_Australis
theepochtimes.com/n3/23630-ancient-atomic-bombs/
emergingtruths.com/lots_wife/lots_wife.html
youtube.com/watch?v=L777RhL_Fz4
youtube.com/watch?v=ji2cvuJ1mYg
youtube.com/watch?v=_FIeVmHuNj8
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map
youtube.com/watch?v=WSxGxN8leb8
megaliths.org
rense.com/general42/soundlev.htm
youtube.com/watch?v=ZqRA7m1KEGQ
youtube.com/watch?v=0K8zs-KSitc
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

the farmer recanted his story claiming he'd carved all 15,000 of the stones himself. He even demonstrated how he engraved the stones using a dental drill. The stones were labelled a hoax and the government considered the embarrassing matter closed

the guy creating 15.000 of them on his own makes it almost as impressive as dinosaurs living with humans is. also why would the guy say he faked them if he got through with it so far unless he recieved pressure?

You might wanna add Mahamba, Megalania and Sucuriju Gigante.

Also, hello again. We talked in all the past threads.

New thread lads.

>Posted in wrong thread
Sorry

There are cultures from all around the world talking of blonde haired, blue eyed people with white skin that came over the sea and brought civilization, including the sumerians. Where did those come from when the sumerians where the first, and why are the people discribed always the same if they were just made up?
The sumerians believed the blue eyed white people where gods, the annunaki. The Aztecs as well, and describe them from coming over the sea with a ship that moved on its own. The chinese talk about blue eyed and blonde haired people who created the first civilization and ruled in the early time. A lot of egyptians mummies are shown to have had blonde hair etc. the we wuz kings stuff was probably just created to rob whites of their heritage
Diving a bit into /x/ territorry here:
Hitlers Ahnenerbe tried to find out about the origins of the white people, and maybe he did find out something (((they))) absolutely fear which is the reason (((they))) try to destroy whites so furiously, more than any other ethnicities.
Later on Hitler went to antarctica, created New Swabia (which by the way seems to be still claimed by Nazi-Germany while Norways claim ended in 1945 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Swabia ) and again a lot of cultures speak about a realm beneath the earth, like shangri la for example, and civilization is said to exist there as well.
Another interesting thing is that "Paradise" in the bible originally came from the word meaning "walled enclosure" which would be pretty much fitting into the inner earth. Did Hitler find out that the whites came from the inner earth, the biblical paradise, and from there spread their knowledge with others. Is this why (((they))) want to get rid completely of the white people?
The nordic gods, thor, odin, all blond and blue eyed, and (((coincidently))) asgard is on a map that supposedly shows the inner part of the earth (will post that map later)

the OP is pretty stuffed, there doesnt fit anything else

ancient-code.com/scientists-geological-evidence-shows-the-great-sphinx-is-800000-years-old/
>The morphology of these formations has an analogy with similar such hollows formed by the sea in the coastal zones. Genetic resemblance of the compared erosion forms and the geological structure and petrographic composition of sedimentary rock complexes lead to a conclusion that the decisive factor of destruction of the historic monument is the wave energy rather than sand abrasion in Eolian process.

>Mainstream scientists offer explanations for this sharp feature and state that it is based on the abrasive effect of the wind and sand, the undulations were formed because the harder layers of rock are better at withstanding the erosions while the softer layers would have been more affected, forming voids.

>However, as noted Manichev and Parkhomenko, this argument does not explain why the front of the head of the Sphinx lacks such features. In regards to the argument made by Schoch about the heavy rain period which occurred around 13,000 BC

>Our personal experience in scientific investigation of geology of the sea coasts gives reasons to draw an analogy with the GES and to suggest another mechanism of its destruction. Specialists-geologists, who work in the field of sea-coast geomorphology, know such forms of relief as wave-cut hollows (Morskaya Geomorfologiya, 1980).

leaving the 800.000 year figure out there for now, there is some evidence suggesting that the sphynx was ones submerged under water, but the egypt is as dry as now for 15 thousand years, meaning that the sphynx must be older than that. this could hint towards a great flood, told in many legend and mythologies of many civilizations all around the world. maybe we should pay more attention to the telling of the ancient civilizations

pic related the map i mentioned in

Maybe you are the same user that keeps posting these, either way keep it up. Let's hope the idiot mods don't prune it

I am posting in threads that have at least 200 replies to not destoy them.

In the last thread we discussed some cavehouses that where discovered in sanliurfa in the middle of the city. back then i didnt find any sources on it, but now i found a few.

gobeklitepehaber.com/haber/8387/haleplibahcede-magaralar-kaderine-terk-edildi.html
haberler.com/sanliurfa-da-kizilkoyun-projesi-ile-59-magara-gun-3929299-haberi/

the problem is i dont understand anything in turkish, so maybe some roach user can dig up some info on these.

these go a few layers into the rock, and are build on multiple levels. i didnt went too far in there back then because it basically was just unsecured and didnt want the ground beneath me or the ceiling above me to collapse.

Pic related is the Oronce Fine Map from 1531, it depicts antarctica even though it officially was only discovered 1820.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_Australis
>Terra Australis (Latin for South Land) is a hypothetical continent first posited in antiquity and which appeared on maps between the 15th and 18th centuries. The existence of Terra Australis was not based on any survey or direct observation, but rather on the idea that continental land in the Northern Hemisphere should be balanced by land in the south.
this is their excuse on why antarctica is seen on maps before its discovery (there are multiple around), but that doesnt explain how the depiction of antarctica/terra australis is so close to the real deal

wish i could contribute to this but i haven't got anything. bump for interest though

theepochtimes.com/n3/23630-ancient-atomic-bombs/
>Seven years after the nuclear tests in Alamogordo, New Mexico, Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, the father of the atomic bomb, was lecturing at a college when a student asked if it was the first atomic test conducted.
>“Yes, in modern times,” he replied.

>Many scientists have sought to explain the dispersion of large glass rocks in the deserts of Libya, the Sahara, Mojave, and many other places in the world, as products of gigantic meteorite impacts. However, due to the absence of accompanying craters in the desert, the theory doesn’t hold up. Neither satellite imagery nor sonar has been able to find any holes.

>Furthermore, the glass rocks found in the Libyan Desert present a grade of transparency and purity (99 percent) that is not typical in the fusions of fallen meteorites, in which iron and other materials are mixed in with the cast silicon after the impact.


emergingtruths.com/lots_wife/lots_wife.html
>The Hebrew word translated as salt in this passage is melach, which does indeed mean salt. However, the root of melach is malach, which means to vanish away, or dissipate, as salt does when mixed into water. Given that Hebrew writing omits vowels, it's easy to see why malach may have been mistranslated as melach.
If this is true it means Lots wife didnt turn into salt, but simply vanished, when turning back to sodom/gomorrah, like when you get hit by a nuke.

youtube.com/watch?v=L777RhL_Fz4
At around 1:10:00 he starts talking about the pyramids, and how they encode the size of the earth in relation to the moon, as well as the speed of light with over 99% accuaricy. how were egyptian, if they were the ones, supposed to know these things unless they were far more advanced and sophisticated than we are told

pic related are giant megaliths in the shoria mountains, russia. how were these moved, or even stacked?

pic related is baalbek/heliopolis in lebannon.

youtube.com/watch?v=ji2cvuJ1mYg
Here its talked about about a scientist that found soft tissue on dinosaur fossiles, which should have been long gone. this either means dinosaur arent as old as we believed, or the process of fossilization is different from what we imagined, yet the woman that found it was attacked, discredited, they said she would be lying etc.

another view of the megaliths in the shoria mountains

these allegedly happened by overlayering 2 symbols with some of the stone breaking apart. you decide if you want to believe it

Don't forget time gap hypothesis

didnt really look it up, but it says a 100 years or even a few thousand years (depending on the source) didnt happen and were completely invented. you also find it under the name phantom time theory

Just read texts from ancient civilization. Read books written 100 years ago about history of Rome and shit it's the same as it is now. It's not a lie, you just need to read more. there is so much literature it would literally be impossible to forge.

watch this
youtube.com/watch?v=_FIeVmHuNj8

the hypthesis of this thread isnt that everything of the past is invented, but rather that a lot of crucial informations are withheld from us showing there were advanced civilizations long before the sumerians or or even whoever build göbekli tepe which is officially the oldest sight

WE WUZ NEVER BLACK

I think it's way more likely that, if there were older civilizations, the evidence of them is lost in time. Like hell dude look at the ruins we have from Ancient Greece it's practically nothing. The writings that have survived from the Seven Sages are so few I wouldn't be surprised if there is just an extremely small amount of evidence around anymore. No one is hiding shit from you. No one cares.

in this thread there is already a lot of evidence there was stuff before. and there are also a lot of people who care, just because you dont it doesnt mean noone does

the two soldiers in the middle and the soldier on the far right are all the same guy

they also only gave those belt buckles to officers

and then you know the obviously doctored in soldiers and pterodon

I meant no one cares enough to hide it from you. Read books about this dude. People do scholarly research on this type of shit. Why don't you read a book instead of watching conspiracy videos made by schizophrenics? I'm not claiming it's impossible, I'm claiming no one cares enough to cover this shit up. I guarantee your ideas are already supported or denied by research. Be apart of the scholarly debate, why do you think Sup Forums is the place for this?

they may look similar, but they dont look the same. the similarity also gets enhanced since the quality isnt that good and thus details are lost.

the fake picture is this one. when that picture in the OP emerged, there suddenly was a campange started to talk about how that picture of the civil war with a pterosaur is fake in the newspapers. (((coincidently))) they didnt use the picture in the OP, but pic related. notice the same setting, the same posture, holes in similar locations etc.
this pic here is a the psyop to discredit the real one so that if anyone talks about it they just point to this picture and talk about how its fake, and are right since they are talking about the pictured faked especially for that purpose.

same as people do scholarly research on the holocaust, global warming, genderequality etc and yet most of it is bullshit. also i think Sup Forums is the place, or Sup Forums is as you can have free discussions on here. and since the elite hiding the true past and denying major parts of our history is a political issue it fits here pretty well

watching it right now, but moskau being the rebuild jerusalem with the bible only existing for 300-400 years seems to be a stretch so far and like russian propaganda

comparisson of antarctica and the (((fictional))) depiction of terra australis mentioned in

some bump if someone is still interested

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HAHA you'd have to be a literal moron not to see your op pic is fake
what do you have, shit for eyes?
the "fake" one actually looks more legit

Those pyramids were built thousands of years apart

This one really activated my almonds. So the last supper was in a pyramid, or at least davinci thought it was?

But pyramids probably fullfill a purpose and thus are build underlying the same basic principle

Blue eyes are a rarity and a genetic mutation.
There are many genetic mutations.
Rarities were commonly subscribed special meaning.

No they weren't special aliens from some other planet bringing amazing technology to civilizations over time. They were human beings who like many other human beings at different points in history have genetic mutations for whatever reason unknown to science w.r.t to evolution and that's that. Fits science. Fits history. Fits what's observable today.

Mythological stories of super human people who are distinguishable by skin deep genetic features are doesn't fit anything but made up biased tails and superstition.

>the "fake" one actually looks more legit

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

>gobeklitepehaber.com/haber/8387/haleplibahcede-magaralar-kaderine-terk-edildi.html

Use chrome. Translator option will pop up.
What about them? Have archeologist dated them or conducted a formal study? If not, it has no value beyond an interesting formation.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map

Older maps are most likely to have existed reflecting such a landform by those who were close to and explored it. Not sure what's the significance of someone's later speculation?

Much of history is still undiscovered. It's quite reasonable to understand that there were maps of Antartica before this guy speculated on it.

There were libraries that maintained the knowledge of the world thousands of years before 1531.....

You're getting into /x territory.
Try to present cohesive thought through information that has supports.

I wanted to find out if there is something to it because it was one of the sights i actually could visit, but couldnt find any information on it

They were far more sophisticated than we were told. Continual archeological findings prove this. Much of what has already been uncovered examples them as a very advanced civilization. The only reason this isn't more widely excepted is due to politics and due to its conflict with beneficial narrative of history. Anyone who truly seeks to understand their history and others can see this for themselves.

>epoch times

Well yeah.. Archeological findings are proving this and point deeper into history. That's the way discovery works. The science and discovery is happening all the time. Of course it gets politicized and dwindled down once it is served up in a mainstream format.

The archeological findings we have right now example that human history is much older than has been taught. The civilizations were advanced (fact) and that there have been multiple disruptive ecological events which could have 'reset' human history in terms of wiping out language/knowledge/culture/advancement.

That's 100% supported by science and archeological findings. It also is 100% accessible to those who care to be informed about it.

Nobody said the tv dinner of history would be nutritional and yes a lot of people suffer from malnutrition in this regard. As much as those who frequent Sup Forums like to believe they're red-pilled, there is an incredible amount of ignorance found here w.r.t to history, science, and culture.. It shows in the racial dribble.

But anyway, back on topic. göbekli tepe is thought to have been created by civilizations that had to migrate to that region after a major ecological event. As such, what went into it wasn't locally cultivated, it is speculated that it was created from non-natives who were there temporarily in order to avoid extension from ecological disaster found elsewhere. It's reflected in the fact that they haven't found any traces of a civilization that could have yielded that in archeological findings nearby. That can change w/ new findings. However, that's what's understood right now.

Post links if there is a different belief.

i did though. but if you want a general hypthesis of what i believe about our past its like this:
there were civilizations long before those known to us. they got destroyed through either external cataclysms like an asteroid, supervolcano etc., or was selfinduced like through nuclear warfare as the hints in suggest. the few remaining people, were the ones mentioned in who got scattered around the world and rebuild what they could where they came.

i thought about what if the ancient civilizations had technology like we do, but called it magic, or whatever magic is called in the specific language.
i mean we have TV which lets us see far away things, like a crystal ball. we can shoot fireballs with flamethrowers, shoot lightning with a teslacoil, even can fly around. then something happened, and barely anything of it remained. whenever someone came up with the "magic" the locals couldnt explain it and thus it became this magical, unexplainable thing. then we came to rediscover some of it, but since it wasnt unexplainable anymore it wasnt magic anymore, so we called it technology this time. and this is where we are now.

allegedly stalin made experiments with them where he put just a small pyramid over some oilwell, and suddenly it produced more oil than without. some people say they experienced some feel of pressure while being in the pyramids of egypt. they are if im not mistaken also aligned with other monuments, the leylines if you want so, which maybe transfer information/energy and the pyramids are a way to recieve/harvest those. the pyramids are said to bring the pharao to the stars, but they werent used as tombs. now if we assume its not about an alien spacehangar, maybe it helped with astral projection helping you log into the grid and access the information. lots of questions

this shows some alignments. how could they do that all across the world?
youtube.com/watch?v=WSxGxN8leb8

Humphreys proposes narrowing down the date of the Last Supper as having occurred in the evening of Wednesday, 1 April AD 33.

Yes, there are 1000s of documented history BC.
Architectural influenced was passed down. Jerusalem was built based on architectural influences far from it.

I wanna know more about the mysterious "Sea People" that caused the Bronze age Collapse.
>be civilization
>all of the sudden massive hordes of unknown people start invading

The p'ids weren't built by the egyptians.

They predate the last ice age, as do a lot of the other ones around the world.

Look up easter island and the Incan pyramids.

Beyond having an enjoyable human experience , the internet's your best tool in this regard.

If you want to make progress on your findings and theories, center on factual archeological findings, science, known history, and supported theories.

With respect to this, fact is stranger than fiction.

megaliths.org

Have fun.

you can easily find references to those on other sites as well

dumb gayreeks and/or thracians, nothing special

Certain artifacts and bones, and even mythology, definitely point to the history of civilization being very old- millions of years possible. It's pretty unlikely we'll ever piece the story together too reliably because of how distant it is.

On the other hand we have a lot of evidence starting to help us reveal the story of relatively recent human history maybe as far back as 100,000 years ago.

There was a global empire that lived in the North, they were fair haired (red and blond), tall, bearded, light eyed. They've been around for God knows how long and they've influenced almost every culture and region on the planet.

The Paradise thing is a very interesting connection- you can also find some bizarre linguistic connections to the idea of the mythical mountain, home of the gods/fallen angels- Kunlun, Shambala, Meru, Asgard, etc. It's a mountain said to be attached to the axis mundi directly below the pole star/Northern star.

The thing is that actually these deities are related to (((them))) and they subverted our ancestors the way that (((they))) do to us now. They've just fallen into their current disgusting state- we're both genetically related to these deities, but they are primarily some other group that seems to have raped four Aryan women and turned their descendants into the kikes.

Hitler was actually connected to the kikes and Rothschilds, and subverting the truth- although he does give out a lot of information, just be wary.

Some of the countries you mentioned like Egypt are specifically connected to Atlantis which is related to the Aryans but different.

Compared to the no ice map, assuming that didn't know about the peninsula, it's very close

Here's the thing. Bread is being provided in terms of thoughts and actual historical findings.

As far as theories go, it's good to sometimes think broadly and wildly .. However, after you have done so you should always calm down and think it through logically...
Now...

>there were civilizations long before those known to us. they got destroyed through either external cataclysms like an asteroid, supervolcano etc.,

Yes, this is supported by actual science and archeological findings. This highlights that we have yet to discover much of our history. This drives exploration.

> or was selfinduced like through nuclear warfare
as the hints in suggest.

This is /x tier nonsense right here. Do you see it? Do you not see the leap? Do you understand how hard it is to create such a weapon in even modern times? What went into it... Can you go back even 1000 years AD and say in known history we could have done that? Is there anything in current findings to suggest there was an advancement to that capability? What does this buy you in theoretical value by speculating about this? Nothing. Why do it? An asteroid isn't enough? You have to claim we asteroid'ed ourselves? Why? Ego?

> the few remaining people, were the ones mentioned in who got scattered around the world and rebuild what they could where they came.

Sure. This is archeological fact.

> i thought about what if the ancient civilizations had technology like we do

Why do you need to believe this? Have we dug up circuit boards in the ground? What supports this? Can you go back to the 1700s and find iphones? Civilizations have linear progressions not leaps/gaps. There are no space aliens visiting now. None visited before.

Yep, you're on an /x tier binge.. It happens to us all. If you don't lose yourself, you'll find the fruit and throw away the trash.

Are you replying to the right person?
Reread
Who are you claiming built them? space aliens or humans?

Was reading about these guys a few hours ago, pretty fascinating. My biggest question is why. Why travel across the sea just to fuck people up without knowing who they were or how powerful they would be? Why not trade?

They must've been pretty damn powerful themselves

Something crazy to think about is the fact that, in regards to years past, we are closer to Cleopatra than Cleopatra was to the time the pyramids were built. Think of how much the human race has progressed within the past couple thousand years and yet they still try to tell us they were rubbing sticks together to make fire in ancient Egypt. There were ancient civilizations much more advanced than we can even imagine.

They were forced to leave their homes (and their numbers had significantly dwindled) due to natural disasters and other cataclysmic events that made their regions unlivable- this was around the time of a minor apocalypse.

There were other times that these people traveled around and spread their culture but it wasn't always aggressive, sometimes it was more amicable, probably because the times were more suited for that.

I used to be really interested in cryptozoology, all about living dinosaurs and shit. The photo that you linked in OP is confirmed fake, but it's apparently a remake of an old photo that supposedly showed a pterosaur during the Civil War.

As for Mokele-Mbembe, it is but one of several dinosaurs, including Emela-Ntouka, Mbieu-Mbieu-Mbieu and Kongamato that supposedly inhabits the Congo river basin, which is 80% uncharted according to the authorities. What's weird is that all the tribes that live there are unanimous in their affirmation that the creatures both exist and look exactly like the dinosaur models of sauropods and pterodactyls that are presented to them by expeditionary scientists.

There was also another supposed living dinosaur, called Ropen, that lives on Papua New Guinea. They did an episode on Monster Quest hunting it back in the day, and they gathered an eyewitness account from a WWII US veteran stationed there who was adamant it was a pterosaur.

It could be a load of nonsense but it is interesting nonetheless.

I prefer to think of such theoretical people as purple with pink eyes and green hair thereby removing any ethnic group's claim to being genetically related to them. Works out for everyone while preserving the theory.

Quite clearly, skin color, hair color, and eye color buy you nothing in way of being super human today such as it didn't at that time.

why is it /x/ tier nonsense when the findings of glass directly hint towards this? when it comes to technology another interesting thing is are the hindu telling of the hindu vimana which are sid to be flying ships or even flying cities at times and resemble flying saucers, indicating they are actually ancient technology as well. the aztecs talk about the white people coming in ships that move on their own, like todays ships with a motor, if they didnt even mean ships flying through the sky like the vimanas.
(((coincidently))) in the plans of UFOs which allegedly come from the nazis the Vril saucer mentiones a bell (point 1 bell=glocke) in pic related while the tibetians have legends about people lifting heavy rocks with the help of music, singing and sound in general
rense.com/general42/soundlev.htm
>When the stone was in position the monk behind the small drum gave a signal to start the concert. The small drum had a very sharp sound, and could be heard even with the other instruments making a terrible din. All the monks were singing and chanting a prayer, slowly increasing the tempo of this unbelievable noise. During the first four minutes nothing happened, then as the speed of the drumming, and the noise, increased, the big stone block started to rock and sway, and suddenly it took off into the air with an increasing speed in the direction of the platform in front of the cave hole 250 metres high.
Some accounts tell that the pyramids were build in a similar fashion. Now i agree this sounds pretty ridiculous, but then there is this stuff
youtube.com/watch?v=ZqRA7m1KEGQ
youtube.com/watch?v=0K8zs-KSitc
indeed it sounds like it underlies another principle than the story of the tibetians, but there were stories about levitating stuff with sound, and now we can actually do that. so maybe there is more to the legends than we care to believe. and there are quite a few legends that turned out to be real or at least have

Why? That's complete nonsense.

The mythologies all specifically describe tall, bearded, fair haired and light eyed people- there are all sorts of artifacts and pieces of art that demonstrate that look and we even find ancient mummies in regions that corroborate the theory of this empire who match that physical description.

Also the genetic lineage and the linguistic lineage all line up as well, these people were ancestors to many racial groups, we happen to be the most preserved (but still heavily mixed) form of them. I never said anything about superiority whatsoever so I think you're just projecting.

Or just pretty ignorant humans who for all of history attempt to conquer and control by force instead of peaceful relationships.

The truth lasts the test of time and is exampled all across history. The lies and foolishness aren't.

So would that mean Judas played the greatest April Fool's joke ever?

I'm an archaeology major and have been to quite a few places in Europe and the US. The strangest thing I've seen and can't explain are the cup and spiral petroglyphs. I've seen them in every European country and the US. It's like the same person made them all. It's completely unknown what they signify and why they are so similar over huge geographic distances.

Sure they were. This has something to do with time-variant DNA as well which we still know nothing about. This is a pretty solid thing to accept. The only thing that's left is to find out the ways they were advanced and what that led to. This is where the rubber meets the pavement and one needs archeological and scientific evidence.

Link, pics??

Anyone remember that Nebraskan that used to post about ancient German artifacts being found in old Injun archaeological sites?

Well I'm just curious as to why they were so powerful and determined.And If it was after they were dying and had to leave their homelands, that makes it even more impressive

trips of truth, but i guess it would be a day to late as they got jesus the day after. i dont really trust the 33 figure though. the freemasons favorite number is 33 as far as i cant tell, but its for kinda biblical reasons so maybe it was just some other divine intervention.
the 3 symbolizes the wholy trinity, and 2 times the 3 to symbolize the duality of the world they believe we live in. good and evil, black and white, as above so below etc. jesus was nailed to the cross with 3 nails, he died with 33 years and came back after 3 days. he said to have performed 33 wonders etc. also i heared the original birthday of jesus was a few years before year 1 actually, which wouldnt play out with becomming 33 years old and being crucified in year 33, and it would mean our yearcount would be actually accurate

Yep. A significant amount of history and findings go uncovered because of ignorant assumptions about various ethnic groups. Can't find ancient bread when you don't think an ethnic group was capable of it.

You can look it up, "cup and spiral petroglyphs" or "spiral petroglyphs". I have studied and categorized them for years now and have almost every paper written on them, and no one has a clue as to what they are and what they mean. It's difficult to date them because they are rock carvings, but they seem to be neolithic and are a global phenomenon.

I think they were Proto Vikings with knowledge of ship building and iron working.
I don't understand why what was basically considered the hight of civilization at the time can get btfo so thoroughly by a group of people just to have historians pass them off as a bunch of savages/refugees.

They were a really ancient, powerful empire- they absorbed every other great empire everywhere they went, and forced all sorts of amazing warriors like Achilles to fight for them as well so the longer it went on the more powerful they became.

Interesting, more info? Also what's your take on this labyrinth that shows up identically in ancient carvings the world over?

Um they're not being passed off, this is just what the history says, people are trying to find the truth- mainstream academics may try to minimize it to some random small thing- sort of like how you think they're just a simple proto Viking group, but the reality is they were a huge, very old global empire with a lot of power and this is reflected in myths around the world- and all of the myths of the world agree that they were eventually lowered in numbers and wiped out- the surviving groups becoming modern Europeans.

There is no more info. All we can do is categorize them and try to date them based on the glyphs of animals depicted nearby. No one knows more than this. Any assertion to the contrary is pure speculation. They exist almost everywhere on the planet where humans have lived and are probably late neolithic.

I was also thinking of the Umman Manda, do you think they were all tied into some Aryan empire or some sort of successor cultures?

I'll look them up.

If these are what you're talking about I'm very interested. These things are definitely connected to the ancient Hyperboreans.

Everything is possible and nothing is fact until its proven. So, it is fine to think wildly and broadly as I said. Maybe you're 100% right.

However, now prove it and show how they did it. Show the archeological evidence which supports it...

Otherwise, it's just a possibility... A slim one given our understanding and all of human history.

Levitation devices..
Atom bombs...
And yet there are no linear examples leading up to it. There are no gaps my friend. Show the linear trace.... We have iphones but we also have calculators and air conditioning. You don't create modern technology without all of the things that lead up to it being developed.

Bump because I enjoy these threads.

Hmm yeah, they're just a tiny bit late in the history but still rooted in the same time period and they seem pretty obviously connected- I haven't read about them before. I do know that Enlil, Marduk and especially Ashur, their gods, are connected to the Indo European religions and their gods. Ashur has linguistic connections to the word Aryan, as well as Aesir (Nordic myth), Asia, Assura (Indian myth), Ahura (zoroastrian), etc.

They're definitely all tied to ancient Aryan or proto-Aryan culture, all descended from it- yes.

LMFAO !!!
Nonsense used to spread racist beliefs. You're skin tone, eye color, and hair color don't determine how advanced your brain or consciousness is you derp. They are external adaptations to the external environment for survival i.e - sun exposure. It doesn't now nor did it ever in history reflect anything deeper than what one is exposed to over time and how ones body adapts to surviving it.

You're biased and blinded if you believe otherwise. (((( BUT BUT Muh' race was da' advanced alien race )))))
Are you listening to your ego right now?

And they just so happen to be fair skinned with blue eyes and red hair.. Yeah because that is clearly sustained in the region of earth that harbored and was the breadbasket for life and bio-diversity (Hint derp : it isn't the north or south pole).

Quit being such an obvious shill, idiot, again I never once made a comment on superiority or intelligent, I only mentioned the physical traits.

I think the cup and spiral are different from the labyrinth, but perhaps have a connection?

The glyphs I've seen and categorized have certain features, one of them being size. They are usually no larger than 40 cm diameter, they are sometimes concentric rings with a cup in the center and a carved line that bisects the circles and into the cup like a spout. Or they are spirals. They are common on prominent outcroppings, and near the sea. I have one that seems to depict a human sacrifice, but is one of the most rare and elaborate types on earth. Northern Spain seems to have the most and most elaborate ones

i have a theory about the spiral petroglyphs
the star of davids (what i believe) original meaning is the unification of male and female, and by extend generally polar opposites. its basically another version of ying and yang so it makes sense you would find those two together giving the meaning, but weird given the history of its origins. only later was it used for a symbol of saturn, and judaism. rothschild used it back on his store back then and made it later a jewish symbol.
One believe was that magic springs into existence where 2 polar opposites meet. good and evil, the above and below, male and female. especially the unification of the last is one of the most holy events in many cultures where the magic of life happens and the first step for the existence of a new human has been made. Now if you mix 2 things they mix while building a vortex or a spiral, and i believe this is meant with the spiral symbology, or maybe just the energy of life specifically as the pedos use the spirals as well and fuck little kids, and what better symbold for life and energy is there than a kid?
A lot of japanese culture seems to reference it, wether its naruto with uzumaki even meaning spiral and the spirals all around the anime, ranma 1/2 has a technique based on a spiral, and not to forget tengen toppa gurren lagann which is all about the spiral beings (humans) kept underground, in the dark by the antispirals, the (((elite))) out of fear that the spiral being destroy everything out of accident. is this maybe why the elite tries to hide spirituallity from us? because they fear we would fuck it up? or just that we would fuck (((them)) up?

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You seem pretty invested in shutting this down.

People's carrers are based around the current narrative, people's life work.They have plenty of incentive to hide it.

LOL, look around for present examples... The truth is timeless. People steal shit from others.. LOL, that's how you gain power. It's proven over 1000s of years of history. Most empires were founded sustained on conquest and theft.

That isn't a stretch.. It's consistent for all of history.