When asteroid mining becomes possible what will gold fags do? Muh limited resource haha

When asteroid mining becomes possible what will gold fags do? Muh limited resource haha

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When asteroid mining becomes reality, I will be rich

>what is supply and demand

Off too Saturn.

*to

>sell gold before it drops
>start asteroid mining business
>earn billions

Hmm, that looks surprisingly like a lemon.. I never saw that in my astronomy class. Are the lenses messed up or something?

saturn isn't real, it's just the engine that powers the similation

>falling for the Keynesian jew

Asteroid mining isn't possible. No material is cheaper than the rocket fuel and vehicle it takes to recover. Asteroids all have very high orbits and masses, and that necessitates large rockets and investments.

Anyone that says otherwise is either a con artist or their shill. Rocket science is not hard and is very cut and dry on this.

You have the billions worth of gold needed to start an astromining business? Why are you shit posting on Sup Forums?

Switch to blockchain currency

Use it for roofing. Gold makes awesome roofing material.

This is exactly why asteroid mining will never become a reality.

What if we just used a big crane

Saturn is flat. The roundness is a NASA conspiracy

There will be no gold fags. By the time we are technologically advanced enough to mine asteroids the world will have already united under a global socialist order

Space is a Jewish lie, the world is flat. stay woke.

I'm not telling you that information, you commie scumbag. I'm an American, I don't have to answer stupid questions.

We can just build an inflatable launch loop on the mining asteroid retard

>no material is cheaper than rocket fuel and vehicles
I think you meant to say pricey or expensive. Cheap isn't the word you are looking for.

Launching off the asteroid isn't the problem, dipshit, it's getting mining equipment to the asteroid in the first place

What they're telling you is a lie, the all objects in the universe other than earth are made out of individual elements/compounds.

The moon is made out of cheese,
Mars is made out of strawberry sherbet,
Saturn is a giant lemon
Neptune is made out of blueberry flavoured liquid nitrogen
&
Uranus is, well you know.

That would not pay itself off.

I did mean to say that. Shit.

that doesn't make any..what?

Itll all be meaningless. Like say how will currency work when we colonize other planets

That's why you refuel at Mars, use less than half the fuel on a return trip to Earth while intercepting a viable asteroid. On this Mars trip you pick up a few more rockets and install them on the asteroid then haul it back to earth in lickity split, yo. Simple science bruv.

We know as single chunk asteroids that have trillions worth of materials like platinum, gold or (most importantly) lithium. Having materials needed for construction outside of the gravity well of a planet is also priceless. Why continue to send modular pieces of space station up when they can be constucted in zero g? Especially since we know creating certain materials (specifically glass) in zero g makes it sturdier than those made on earth?

>gold everything
>solid gold plates, gold cars, gold toothbrush
It will all be worth jackshit but it will still be cool. The next generations won't care about gold at all just like you and me don't care about salt like they did in the old days. Of course gold has a practical purpose in electronics so that could be good.

HOLY FUCK, EYES WOKE!

Will all be rich

Moving about in space isn't the really expensive part, it's escaping orbit in the first place

Of course this is a hypothetical sencario.

nuke the asteroids until they crash into earth or the moon

>limited resource
through out our mining of gold, we've maybe mined an olympics pool size amount. Less than %0.05 of the esitmated amount in total.

what if we launch shit into orbit with railguns?

That's why you manufacture rockets on Mars. That's the first part of my GENIUS FUCKING PLAN. Even better to rendezvous from Earth and Mars to the asteroid, then haul it back to either Mars or Earth for refining.

Adding infrastructure just adds to the amount of money you have to pay off, and the process is a net loss to begin with.

Yes they contain a trillion dollars, at the current supply's value. If you doubled the supply you'd cut the value in half and you'd take an even bigger loss.

A Trillion dollars in ore, minus 900 billion in spacecraft, minus the cost of inflating the supply of that ore.

It's a loss. Sorry. It took the saturn 5 to bring back just 130 tons. How many tons of ore do you want to bring down, exactly? It doesn't matter how you break it up, it takes the same amount of energy to bring down the same amount of mass.

Gold at it's current price would be economical to return for the Asteroid belt or even from NEOs.
The reaction mass needed isn't an issue when you are going to be extracting it from a source of reaction mass.
The cost is almost all front loaded into equipment, deployment and technology.

Gold at current prices is viable even if you ignore the other metals and their value being already out in space. When you take into account the value of processed metals in space, the gold is just icing on the cake.

Stop that goyim

I hate this fucking faggots face. Some one tell me who this is so I can go hate them some more.

>implying infrastructure on mars would cost a lot
Low gravity bruv. Means way less materials to construct shit. I told you, bruv. I'm a fucking genius, who's gonna be trillionaire in no time.

Gold would be the best material for plumbing tubes. It is non toxic and is inert.

The magnetic force required would tear anything electronic inside to shreds

Trump please go back to work and give us the tax cuts.

>what if we launch shit into orbit with railguns?
Helps to reduce the cost but a launch system that can put something into orbit or nearly into an orbit is expensive.

It's a step we may or may not need; If we can get manufacturing* active in orbit we won't need that much ultra heavy lift off Earth. Just enough for people economically.

*Machines that build machines.

Nuking them would not change their orbits significantly, it would just coat the thing in radioactive isotopes.

>Gold at it's current price would be economical to return for the Asteroid belt

That's a mighty bold claim considering we've never brought any spacecraft no matter how small from beyond the orbit of mars. The energy just to make orbit up there is immense. To then bring it down without evaporating in the atmosphere would be a tremendous expenditure of energy. There is no material worth that cost.

What if the ONLY gold that exists in this galaxy is here on earth? What if aliens have been taking it from us for years already in secret?

WAKE UP user

There are more of these trillion dollar asteroids than a company can mine within a human lifetime. Countless trillions worth amongst the stars.

And you're not going to touch the rest of my most? Countless trillions worth of iron and other construction ores outside of a gravity well is literally priceless.

okay, what if we launch an iron bar into orbit tied to the shuttle?

Copper kills bacteria

The impact with the air would be bigger than the bomb trump dropped. 12-14 km/s is a lot.

That's what cowboys and aliens is about.

I doubt it is limited to us though.

>what will gold fags do?

do what they have always done.
continue to pay a price that has been rigged for centuries.

youtube.com/watch?v=0qezLhypA0Y

noone's mentioned the easily available orbital ring 50's tech that could revolutionize the world as we now it?

That could do, I'll talk to an engineer

1 - find giant solid gold asteroid
2 - accelerate asteroid directly at planet Earth
3 - ???
4 - Profit!

It will take centuries before launching an asteroid mining colony into space and bringing back gold is cheaper than an illiterate peasant in Zimbabwe digging up gold in his backyard. Then ask me that question on subspacechan /holodeck/.

Fully automated space communism.

But you'd still need to put chlorine into the water to make it safe.
Cooper rusts and leeches into the water. Gold tubes would literally last forever.

lmao mining on Earth is barely even profitable as it is now, where the FUCK is the money for asteroid mining supposed to come from?

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>There are more of these trillion dollar asteroids than a company can mine within a human lifetime. Countless trillions worth amongst the stars.
They're not worth a trillion dollars when you tank the market for those resources by dropping a shitload of supply onto them, you ninny. You might make money on the first venture, but that venture dropped the floor out of the market and now you can't make a profit again.

>And you're not going to touch the rest of my most? Countless trillions worth of iron and other construction ores outside of a gravity well is literally priceless.
There is no profit margin. If a resource is a net loss to acquire, we do not bother with it. We haul a billion tons of iron ore out of the earth every year, and we've got thousands if not millions of years left of being able to do that. You will never contrive a way of getting iron or any other material out of space for cheaper than we can do on earth or for less than the material is actually worth. It will always be a loss, you cannot get around that with nonsensical narratives about exponential progress.

wouldn't silver be better? it also kills bacteria and is inert IIRC

Our magnetic field is also a finite resource. We have published papers that show we can easily add roughly 10% of the current field back using a ringsystem around earth and current technology. One day we (thousands of generations later) will need to build these things or die.

The rockets and their fuel would cost more than the mass of gold. Asteroids have eccentric orbits and weigh a lot.

When the economy collapses and my children are hungry, gold won't cut it. I'm going to want weapons or usable goods to trade. Only a fool would horde gold during the times of the end. Faggots.

Sell off some gold and buy the new even rarer precious space metals. Did you think we would just find metals and minerals that were local to earth?

nuke them so they turn poisonous and unusable, good idea user

So we should continue to pay to mine it on earth and then pay to transport it to space, the moon or Mars? You're pretty short sighted, user. I'm glad you'll never be in a position to make important decisions

alright, but i dont think that's relevant to asteroid mining

dont be such a pussy it's only like 50 years until they're safe again

It might kill some bacteria. But you won't make non-potable water drinkable.
Silver pipes would also last very long, but not as long as gold.

Pokeman cards. Cold, hard traders.

Science fiction isn't real you twat. Nobody is going anywhere. It doesn't matter what we want, the universe doesn't have a branch for us to grab to do those things anymore than it has a refuge for your mind when you inevitably die.

There are problems that cannot be solved. Dealing with it is integral to growing up.

It is because mining without having to transport it to orbit lowers the cost. An entire ringsystem would be a staggering amount of space launches and countless tons of material. Which is already in space and close enough to reach

People don't invest in things that have returns greater than their lifetimes.

You rocketfags are still complaining that your shit space travel method sucks? Hurry up and build mass drivers or rotary reactionless engines.

>The energy just to make orbit up there is immense. To then bring it down without evaporating in the atmosphere would be a tremendous expenditure of energy. There is no material worth that cost.

A ton of gold is about the size of a basketball and has a value of about $50 million.

The cost to go from Earth escape velocity to the best (closet in Delta V) NEO is between 0.2 and 0.8 km/s. EEV to the belt is about 1.1km/s. The return value is almost meaningless because of the massive amount of reaction mass you will get while mining.

>That's a mighty bold claim considering we've never brought any spacecraft no matter how small from beyond the orbit of mars.
I can only assume you are using some obscure definition of spacecraft that ignores all the probes we have sent further than Mars in terms of Delta V or in pure distance.

It's viable without any huge technological advances. Gold will be a byproduct that on it's own could pay for the operation.

are you (((sure)))?

What's the point of a ring system?

I'll tell you - there isn't one. Name me one viable economic activity in space that benefits the people on earth who have to pay for it. Go ahead and try.

Sorry that science isn't your strong point, user. We aren't talking about science fiction. We don't do it due to the cost of development, not lack of ability

>Gold tubes would literally last forever.
Figuratively, not literally.

Why haven't we found alien life yet? Why is Earth so alone?

This. Technology and science have advanced as far as is possible. The most we'll ever see are small incremental improvements on what we already have. Space travel is impossible. Computers will never get faster. Unlimited or cheap energy is a meme.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

space is expanding faster than light so all the potential life on other galaxies need warp/ftl/space folding tech to reach each other. or a myriad of other reasons

Aliens are not real. Earth is the only pocket of life in the universe. Life is harsh, get used to it.

Gold would still be limited, leaf. I realize you're probably retarded when it comes to resource production (and well, economics in general), but extracting resources requires energy and there's still a finite amount of gold in the universe. It's is not free like you envision in your little leaf brain. Gold consumption is constantly going up, not down. And that's not because of "muh gold hoarders", it's because of the industrial uses. Keep in mind we're comparing it to fiat currency , which is produced by some Jew clicking his mouse.

Even the most basic life is so completely improbable to have spontaneously formed from small molecules that it should not have happened anywhere in the universe ever including earth

It costs more to bring things to and from space than any raw material is worth here on Earth.

The point of asteroid mining is to have raw materials up there in space without having to launch it from the ground. You can build arbitrarily large space ships without regard to mass if they're built in orbital shipyards with materials mined in space.

THICC

>warp/ftl/space folding tech
None of that is possible. Mankind will never reach the stars.

we need to start making things bigger instead of smaller and more compact

i think this might be the key

Well, a ring around the earth provides the ability to replace the current system of satalites, adding solar cells creates renewable energy on a global scale and creates an observation platform that at the bare minimum is an early warning system for any major impacts.

Also, like I said, eventually we have to suppliment our magnetic field or lose our atmosphere like Mars did. And the ring provides a platform for that available technology.

proof pls

Asteroid mining is still a long way off before it is technologically viable option. Not to mention the costs of getting supplies and goods to and from space. Even after we have the technology to mine asteroids, gold will still be expensive. Gold fags should be safe for quite a long time.

>A ton of gold is about the size of a basketball and has a value of about $50 million.
I'll assume you're correct for sake of argument.

>The cost to go from Earth escape velocity to the best (closet in Delta V) NEO is between 0.2 and 0.8 km/s. EEV to the belt is about 1.1km/s. The return value is almost meaningless because of the massive amount of reaction mass you will get while mining.

What reaction mass do you gain while mining?

Did you think to account for the ship, the launch vehicle, the fuel, the crew, the people on the ground, etc etc?

How do you land the material on earth cheaply? How many tons are being caught by parachute? How many tons at a time per heatshield you have to ship up from earth? It doesn't wash.

>I can only assume you are using some obscure definition of spacecraft that ignores all the probes we have sent further than Mars in terms of Delta V or in pure distance.

Brought From. Not Sent To. We've never brought anything back from the void. It's too expensive to stop in space. I think the farthest ever was the one that got sneezed on by a comet, but it was not beyond the orbit of mars, and the payload was mostly fucking aerogel, not iron ore.

>It's viable without any huge technological advances. Gold will be a byproduct that on it's own could pay for the operation.

youtube.com/watch?v=0qezLhypA0Y
have you watched the video?

also, it doesnt matter how much launches it would take as long as the price is right.

the video gives out a conservative amount of $192 billion which is completely feasible

Basic physics.

Will never happen

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