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How has your week been going since Easter? How are your loved ones?
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>tfw no Filioque
come home heretics.
We know already that it's possible for an Orthodox and a Catholic to be married in good faith with both of their religions, without one of them having to convert. However, how is the religion of the child to be decided? Should the parents pick one, or teach both somehow? Should the child decide?
Orthodoxy or Death
Orthodoxy is shit.
All orthodox countries are desperate shitholes.
You can't hide behind that flag, muhammad
greecee
Protestantism is far better for capitalism.
Orthodoxy = state socialism.
>(((Protestantism))) is far better for (((capitalism.)))
yeah no shit.
Cathodox? In all seriousness, I didn't even you you could do this. I guess the best thing to do would be to take the child to both churches equally and let them decide which they prefer.
>tfw Catholic is the obviously correct choice
>tfw Orthodox Slavic women are hotter and more trad than western Catholic women
>tfw still prefer western Catholic women anyways
>Capitalism
>Not traditional monarchy with mercantile economy
Most children would probably prefer Catholocism because Orthodox mass is looooooong and has old-style music.
>tfw you don't have to compete with orthodox priests for the choice qts.
Alithos Anesti my brother
>tfw I live right in the middle of TexMex
>tfw I have an ample selection of choice trad Catholic Mexican qts
>inb4 RACEMIXING REEEEE!
>tfw western white women are trash in 2017
is shit
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Odin has one eye and Trump has no beard.
ჭეშმარიტად! :3
Come home, truebeliever...
In Greece that's almost impossible but if you try too hard maybe you can find a priest to marry you but again it 'll be considered anticanonical.
Spent my Easter in Jerusalem/Bethlehem. Pic related is from the Milk Grotto.
Why are Burgers throwing dollars at baby JC?
>tfw no BG church, only greek ones
Saw a lot of Georgian qt3.14 conservative waifus in Bethlehem.
Blonde and blue eyed, head covered. Good times.
Clearly Oden has two eyes and Trump has a beard. Can't you see?
As far as i know, there are agreements that children will be orthodox in this case. At least that's how it is written in official blessings books (idk how itbisbin english) here.
>Protestantism is far better for capitalism.
>Orthodoxy = state socialism.
Just another proof why Protestants are heretics. You care more about the status money brings you in this world, that is only temporary, rather than what the truth of Christ brings you for eternity.
>When Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, "How hard it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God!" And the disciples were perplexed at these words. But Jesus said to them again, "Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God." They were greatly astounded and said to one another, "Then who can be saved?" Jesus looked at them and said, "For mortals it is impossible, but not for God; for God all things are possible."
*it is in
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I have been keen on having Catholic, Orthodox, and Oriental Christianity in a general together for some time. Ill be using the OP to be a source of resources.
My issue though: what would it be called? I was thinking Apostolic Christianity but if you Google that you just get a protestant church denomination
happy easter Sup Forums
friendly reminder that only orthodox easter is true easter cause only orthodox church is true church
>Milk Grotto
Are those letters supposed to be prayers asking for help with fertility?
Especially televangelists who preach the "Prosperity Gospel." Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly fine with Capitalism. After all, Jesus also said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and render unto God that which is God's." The two are perfectly capable of harmoniously coexisting, as long as it's done right and you still put God and Christ first.
>friendly reminder that only orthodox easter is true easter cause only orthodox church is true church
Indeed. All the others are Schismatics and Heretics.
If you're not Orthodoxy, you're Heterodoxy.
woops, didn't mean to sage there
>calling anyone else Schismatic and a Heretic
>Orthodox are the original Schismatics
The true Church is the Eastern Catholic aka. Orthodox Church.
Q:Who does Jesus tell they are the rock the Church was built on?
A:Saint Peter (Matthew 16:18)
Q:Where were the disciples and the church community first called Christian?
A:Antioch. (Acts 11:26)
Q:What was the name of the church at Antioch?
A: Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch. (orthodoxwiki.org
Q:Who is the founder of the church at Antioch?
A:Saint Peter (Acts 11)
Rome fell into heresy and Protestantism with its thousands of splinter denominations is a natural, evil, outcome of Rome's heresy and the continued decent into confusion and hell.
>All the others are Schismatics and Heretics
thats what Sup Forums gonna learn this year till there is exist internet in russia
Russian church is corrupted not less than government.
But you're a poltard, you don't know that and only believe that ex-kgb is the Savior of white race.
bump for my orthodox brothers
>Catholic, Orthodox, and Oriental Christianity
Catholics schismatics, oriental schismatics, orthodox christianity and orthodox church is two different things. orthodox church is one only true church that jesus our God created himself thruogh apostols. "orthodox" churches that non cannonical (not belong to original orthodox church communion) aint true churches do they look as orthodox or neither.
>being this retarded
>Eastern Orthodox Church split from the Roman Catholic Church in 1054 AD
>Catholic Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire in 380 AD
>thinking the Orthodox Church somehow came first
Nice try, Schlomo. I'm onto you.
orthodox xhristianity means orthodox canonical church. not canonical its not real orthodox whatever they saying about themselves
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>>thinking the Orthodox Church somehow came first
Look at this kike denying the Trinity and Christ and the Holy Spirit being with God at the creation of man and in the Garden of Eden.
Your kike lies expose you every time.
The Way and Christ has been with the Church from the beginning. It is you Edomite Jews who are lying bastards and the authors of confusion with your father the devil.
>And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
we dont discuss putin here and some russian archibishops, we discuss orthodox church, which is COMMUNION of orthodox churches, russian, greek, romanian, albanian, alexandria, constantinople, antioch, jerusalem, bulgarian, georgian and else (american, japanese and any other orthodox churches that belong true orthodox church), we dont discuss putin, or any relate topics,
if you want to discuss how putin is Savior of white race go to russian internet, we dont consider here putin being anyhow related to orthodox church, for us savious and God is Christ, saviour for any race, and every user, every autist, every retard, every neet, every sitting in grandma's basement poor creature eating tendies. putin isnt topic here and you can go lentach (лeнтaч) and discuss your problems there with other russian liberals
>Look at this kike denying the Trinity and Christ and the Holy Spirit being with God at the creation of man and in the Garden of Eden.
What the fuck are you on about. I didn't say anything even remotely close to that. The only Jewish shill here is you, buddy. The Orthodox were the first to splinter Christ's church into multiple organizations, long before the Protestant heresy was even a twinkle in Luther's kike devil eye.
I didn't know the Orthodox church broke the law of the Nicene creed by adding the filioque.
I didn't know the Orthodox church sold a way to reduce the amount of punishment one has to undergo for sins. (very Jewish)
I didn't know the Orthodox church claimed Mary, the mother of Jesus, was preserved by God from the transmission of original sin at the time of her own conception. Specifically the doctrine says she was not afflicted by the privation of sanctifying grace which afflicts mankind, but was instead filled with grace by God, and furthermore lived a life completely free from sin.
The list goes on and can be read here:
A Letter to Pope Francis Concerning His Past, the Abysmal State of Papism, and a Plea to Return to Holy Orthodoxy
orthodoxinfo.com
Russian orthodoxal church is shit.
Old believers not nikonian heretics OK.
>beleving in space daddy.
ha!
There is only one Christian church: The Orthodox Church.
To even recognize of acknowledge any other church as Christian, is to accept heresy or wrong belief.
You're either in the church or you're not. Come home, or stay lost.
So, /cathodox/ or /ortholic/
Reading the Bible as an Orthodox Christian - Dr Jeannie Constantinou
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Prayer in the Heart in a World of Distractions - Mother Victoria
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Orthodoxy and Asceticism: Why and what is its purpose in our Christian lives - Kevin Allen
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Advent Retreat with Abbot Tryphon
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>I didn't know the Orthodox church broke the law of the Nicene creed by adding the filioque.
How then, exactly, did Christ breath the Holy Spirit onto the Apostles, if it did not proceed from Him?
>I didn't know the Orthodox church claimed Mary, the mother of Jesus, was preserved by God from the transmission of original sin at the time of her own conception. Specifically the doctrine says she was not afflicted by the privation of sanctifying grace which afflicts mankind, but was instead filled with grace by God, and furthermore lived a life completely free from sin.
Mary still requires the grace of her Son. The words of the angel "Full of Grace" attests to Mary's consummate sinlessness.
Difference between Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Catholic liturgy.
>How then, exactly, did Christ breath the Holy Spirit onto the Apostles, if it did not proceed from Him?
He didn't "breath the Holy Spirit onto them."
The Holy Spirit proceeds from the father.
“Jesus therefore said to them again, Peace be unto you: as the Father has sent me, even so I am sending you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit: whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven unto them; whose sins you retain, they are retained” (John 20:21-23)
No where does this say he breathed the Holy Spirit into them. It simply says he breathed on them and told them to receive the holy spirit which would come from the father.
>breathed on them, and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit:
seems pretty clearcut to me.
>It simply says he breathed on them and told them to receive the holy spirit which would come from the father.
the last clause you are assuming, it is not stated, and would seem to fly contrary to the passage's intent.
Alithos anesti. Coptic orthodox here
>the last clause you are assuming
The Nicene Creed, that was debated by the greatest Theologians, which became the dogma of the church for over 1000 years into today, says the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father. So no, I'm not assuming anything.
>The Nicene Creed, that was debated by the greatest Theologians, which became the dogma of the church for over 1000 years into today, says the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father. So no, I'm not assuming anything.
no one denies this, the issue is whether or not is also proceeds from the Son, the acceptance of which would not invalidate the previous assertion. The appeal to authority is irrelevant, plenty of the greatest Theologians, among them some early fathers, writings allow for the supplementary addition of "and the Son"
I and the Orthodox Church, believe in following authority because it is placed here by God. Roman Catholics and especially Protestants, have proven they do not follow authority. The Nicene creed says it is against the law to change it without an Ecumenical council, the Roman Catholic church went ahead and changed it away ignoring the authority of the other bishops which has lead to papism and the Roman Catholics leaving the Orthodox Church.
Why the filioque is wrong:
It is contrary to Scripture, particularly in John 15:26: "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me." Thus, Christ never describes the Holy Spirit as proceeding from himself, but only mentions the Spirit's procession in terms of the Father.
The justifications for including the filioque in the Creed—bolstering the divinity of the Son and emphasizing the unity of the Trinity—are redundant, given the original wording of the Creed. That is, the Son already is described as "light of light, very God of very God," and so forth. The Spirit also "with the Father and Son together is worshiped and glorified." Additionally, the Creed itself begins with a statement of belief in "one God."
The filioque distorts Orthodox Triadology by making the Spirit a subordinate member of the Trinity. Traditional Triadology consists in the notion that for any given trait, it must be either common to all Persons of the Trinity or unique to one of them. Thus, Fatherhood is unique to the Father, while begottenness is unique to the Son, and procession unique to the Spirit. Godhood, however, is common to all, as is eternality, uncreatedness, and so forth. Positing that something can be shared by two Persons (i.e., being the source of the Spirit's procession) but not the other is to elevate those two Persons at the expense of the other. Thus, the balance of unity and diversity is destroyed.
Given the previous objection, the repercussions to the acceptance of the filioque into church life are potentially massive. Because how we relate to God is significantly affected by what we believe about him, false beliefs lead to damaging spirituality. One objection often raised about Filioquist theology is that it undermines the role of the Holy Spirit in the Church. Thus, with his role being denigrated, his traditional ministries are effaced or replaced. The Church's unity becomes dependent on an office, spirituality becomes adherence to the letter of the law rather than its spirit, sacraments come to be understood in terms of validity, and a spirit of legalism prevails.
At the Third Ecumenical Council and the "Photian" council of 879-880 (both councils Rome signed onto), all changes to the Creed are anathematized. F
HERETICS
Catholicism true faith
>>tfw Catholic is the obviously correct choice
M8 you have mortal that claims infallibility, wer'll never accept that. He's just an old dude with a flaccid cock and a God complex and that's it.
Catholic propaganda of a man who clams to speak for God and claims he can do no wrong...
>The justifications for including the filioque in the Creed—bolstering the divinity of the Son and emphasizing the unity of the Trinity
presumptuous, Truth is Truth. The assertion that it the motives behind the addition is merely an attempt to bolster one at the expense of another is a baseless elbow jab.
>Thus, Fatherhood is unique to the Father, while begottenness is unique to the Son, and procession unique to the Spirit. Godhood, however, is common to all, as is eternality, uncreatedness, and so forth. Positing that something can be shared by two Persons (i.e., being the source of the Spirit's procession) but not the other is to elevate those two Persons at the expense of the other. Thus, the balance of unity and diversity is destroyed.
How, were is your proof of this? Why would the mutual procession from Father an Son result in submission, when neither the sole procession nor the Son's begetting do the same? Both sources are co-equal and eternal, and yet finding source in one eternal wellspring is fine but two is somehow inadequate?
>The Church's unity becomes dependent on an office, spirituality becomes adherence to the letter of the law rather than its spirit, sacraments come to be understood in terms of validity, and a spirit of legalism prevails.
this is particularly hilarious in light of this
The True catholic and orthodox online larpers are so cute
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Orthodox christianity, only the second most retarded denomination of christianity. Keep it up, camarazi!
Where is proof for the events of the ressurection occurring?
support your local 4th century frauds of Constantine - they need the money
How about divorce, fellow orthodoxes?
What would the Jesus say?
First of all, no matter what view one takes on the issue of divorce, it is important to remember Malachi 2:16: “I hate divorce, says the LORD God of Israel.” According to the Bible, marriage is a lifetime commitment. “So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate” (Matthew 19:6). God realizes, though, that, since marriages involve two sinful human beings, divorces are going to occur. In the Old Testament, He laid down some laws in order to protect the rights of divorcées, especially women (Deuteronomy 24:1–4). Jesus pointed out that these laws were given because of the hardness of people’s hearts, not because such laws were God’s desire (Matthew 19:8).
pedos united
How do you guys interpret Matthew 16?
Matthew 16
Acts 10 and 11 and 15
Papal infallibility is pretty limited
Which part?
i tired. you guys here just dont see the things. internet appeared. all eastern european orthodox voices can be heard in our preach here. i tired of explaining same things. yes our church is only true, yes all other "christian" churches and all other religions are herecies. what else questions could you ask us? we already told many times that our church is only one.
basic reminder
orthodox church only true church
you do what Jesus said you go to heaven
what else?
aint all that needed to be said was already said?
i really tired explain one things every day /orthodox/ thread appears
okay lets run fast on basic things that Jesus said
34 But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sad′ducees, they came together. 35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him. 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.”
So whatever you wish that men would do to you, do so to them; for this is the law and the prophets.
14 For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; 15 but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
7 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. 3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
Acts 10
Jesus goes to Peter to tell him to baptize the uncircumcised
Acts 11 and 15
Peter so called spoke for God saying that God said circumcision is no longer required
Prior to this one had to be circumcised
Χριστός Ανέστη everyone!
I hope you had a beautiful Easter with your family.
You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church
>You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church
Keys of the kingdom refers to a special authority that will be given to both Peter and the other apostles after thee Resurrection. Peter was not a leader over the others, but among them. This truth was confirmed at the Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15) where the apostles and presbyters met as equals, and where Peter advised, but James presided.
Peter/rock is a play on the word for "rock" in both Aramaic and Greek, petros/petra. This rock refers not to Peter per se, but to "the faith of his confession" Thee true Rock is Christ himself 1Co10:4 and the Church is built on the faithful confession of Christ.
I don't listen or consume heresy.
thanks
I am a slav and this is exactly what I was thought about religion as a child
My QT othodox girlfriend is trying to convince me a catholic can baptise our future child.
Anyone care to clarify how ridiculous this for her ?
>My QT othodox girlfriend is trying to convince me a catholic can baptise our future child.
Western (Roman) or Eastern (Orthodox) Catholic?
Roman..
As you know, it's ridiculous. They probably will not do a proper (full immersion) baptism.
>full immersion
Gross
Yep that's what I've told her..
Told her to google it so I can prove to her that I am right again as I always am.
However she came back with some excuse of us "both being right" saying yes a catholic can baptise our child if a orthodox person is also a godparents.
Never heard of two god parents at church before.. think she is full of it and really the orthodox person would be the godparent and catholic person would just be standing there like a cuck receiving a participation award.
I think she has come to the conclusion that I am always right.. but prob just going through stages of denial
Russian orthodox church is a cancer
When she disagrees with you, tell her to read Ephesians 5:22-24 and that an Orthodox priest will be doing the baptism.
>Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.