Leftypol here, sincere question

>Leftypol here, sincere question.

Why do so many of you fascists, neonazis, alt-righters and other reactionaries seem to be ex-Libertarians?

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therightstuff.biz/2013/01/23/fascist-libertarianism-for-a-better-world/
therightstuff.biz/2016/02/19/in-the-long-run-theyre-all-statists/
therightstuff.biz/2016/09/08/what-has-libertarianism-done/
therightstuff.biz/2016/07/19/why-the-nationalist-moment-is-upon-us/
therightstuff.biz/2015/11/05/libertarianism-and-marxism-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/
youtube.com/watch?v=SpDimHnFohE
twitter.com/AnonBabble

the libertarians are still here but stormfags along with redditors invaded some time ago.

Not fascist, neo-nazi, or an alt-righters but I hope you fucking die a horrible agonizing death for being a filthy leftie

Because libertarianism doesn't work when the other side is intent on not leaving you the fuck alone. At that point, you need to organise, and more or less 'enforce' libertarian values to be able to maintain them.

I was ignorant when I was young. I'm wiser now.

>reactionaries

God. Fuck off you fucking faggot.

/thread

>Slovenian
>SJW
How this happened?

>ex
uh oh

Libertarian on the streets, Fascist in the sheets

Read:
therightstuff.biz/2013/01/23/fascist-libertarianism-for-a-better-world/

Because they grew up.

that shit is backward
cantwell is autism

Because the world isn't made for idealistic ideas. Any political stance will have opposition because people won't just conform. Thusly you must have to force them to follow the ideology. Fascism not specifically nazism is a good platform to oppress ideas that threaten a liberitarian idealistic world. Though this is a contradiction ofcourse, because in order to stop the people that threaten your own world views you must become like them to do so.

I used to be a mutualist

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me

Because You violent authoritarian faggots made us realize that radical right wing ideologies are necessary to defend ourselves from cancer like you

Nah, they regressed.
Communism (OP) is the idealistic child's ideology.
Liberalism is the uneducated toddler's ideology.
Fascism is the edgy teenager's ideology.
Libertarianism is the thinking man's ideology.

The jews can't do that in ancap simply becausecbetter competitors can just spring up.
Besides, if they would better rule the world in anarcho-capitalism why are they pushing for state centralization ?

>hes never read Hoppe

you are like little baby

And you graduated to being a full time larper

because we realized libertarianism doesn't work with immigration importing socialist third worlders and democrats pandering to their vote by importing more third worlders and giving them government gibs me dat to keep themselves in power.

>Any political stance will have opposition because people won't just conform

Only if those political stances are imposed onto others, and only if people have the perception that they can change it with support of the law.

If communism was imposed onto me I would oppose, but if you wanted to create a voluntary commune I wouldn't give a shit because:

a) I don't think it's my right to say what you do within your property, mainly because law says I can't
b) You're not imposing anything on me or others.

Most people respect the status quo and rules, what we need is to make true, complete private property the status quo.

>Libertarians just want to be left alone
Are you really this stupid cuck? Are you that dense you cannot connect the dots?

>leftypol
oh yeah, oops, my bad

therightstuff.biz/2016/02/19/in-the-long-run-theyre-all-statists/
therightstuff.biz/2016/09/08/what-has-libertarianism-done/
therightstuff.biz/2016/07/19/why-the-nationalist-moment-is-upon-us/
therightstuff.biz/2015/11/05/libertarianism-and-marxism-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/

Not any of those and I'd still give you a free chopper ride.

I feel that any libertarian that at this point doesn't recognize this is someone that has buried their head in the sand and prefers pointing everyone else out on their logical inconsistencies fully secure in the knowledge that their own ideas will never be mainstream enough that they might be tested and proven to be a failure.

Libertarians are getting in the way of implementing libertarianism.

Step 1: take a libertarian
Step 2: show him what commies and niggers do with their liberty
Step 3: he's a fascist now.

What the fuck did you expect?

Classical leftist union carpenter with paternal roots in America back to 1741 who has been a registered Democrat for 20 years, here.

Hey kid, ever go for a helicopter ride?

Pretty much this. Kinda like Molyneux said: 'I am what is necessary'

If you're going to try to suppress my free speech, destroy my identity, and physically attack me, I'm going to have to change what I think is best for myself and those around me. I have no choice.

Nufag from Reddit here

Can you blame us for leaving that shithole

this

definitely an ex libertarian here

then r_the donald pillaged what was left and here we are !

I am libertarianish. I am also a white nationalist that believes in freedom of association.

So you admit it's the Jews?

yes, don't post here

>1 post by this ID

National Capitalist here. First off, go fuck yourself you filthy one world loving faggot. Second off, no. They aren't extreme right believers who instantly flopped sides and became antifa.

Because we realized that libertarianism cannot work unless some authoritarian elements are applied to it.
t. started out as a libertarian

Being in the libertarian movement led me to race realism is the basic explanation

Nationalism has always been a mix of free market economics and social conservatism.

>fascist-libertarianism
whoever believes this can in any way be a thing should be sorted out from the gene-pool immediately

>Leftypol here
Go away faggot. I've seen you post before, you are a complete fucking loser.

You inevitably realize that there are certain cultures that would ensure that a libertarian society cannot succeed so you just go for the next best thing that still shares some aspects of it but is also capable of defending itself against those cultures.

This right here.

Oh, most are like these actually, Left spreads this meme that Slovenia was founded on antifa principles
(because they don't want people to understand it was founded on the idea of Slovene sovereignty, that would be racist you see)

Pic related.

I started out as an inauthentic NS in my youth, didn't read or understand the philosophy so I eventually became a Libertarian. Then I realized that Libertarianism is childish and ultimately a form of moral/cultural/spiritual nihilism, graduated to Reactionary and now here I am in my mid 20s, back to National Socialism.

Just as anti-capitalist as I am anti-marxist.

>stormfags and redditors
How to identify a shill.
Stormfags are Sup Forums.
Why do you think it's called Politically INcorrect?

Because legalizing everything will NEVER save our civilization.

>Being on Sup Forums means you have to larp as a stormfag because the boards name is politically incorrect
Hello T_D

>Why do so many of you fascists, neonazis, alt-righters and other reactionaries seem to be ex-Libertarians?
I certainly used to be a Libertarian. But at some point I realized that politics =/= economy. While a good economic system is preferrable, it becomes useless when the result is a replacement of your people. No amount of dirty green dollars can convince me to go back to a (((Free Market))) system, which demands free movement of workers, who are seen as mere statistics and "labour force".

as if the original name has anything to do with the cesspool of vladfaggots it's become

Fuck off commie.

IT IS ALL A RUSE

>/thread

>culture doesnt matter, only economics matters
>hmm the world is shit, midless consumerism is bad, everyone is miserable, non whites have no appreciation for libertarianism
>culture matters most and economics just a byproduct

I think you're misconstruing what Sup Forums and leddit is. Sup Forums has been shared by libertarians, fascists and national socialists for a very long time.

>>>r/the_donald

No, people who think we actually tolerate those degenerates from stormfront are new as fuck here and need to lurk or leave.

Any true libertarian hasn't become a national socialist. Unfortunately there were a lot of people who rode the Ron Paul train without actually understanding the ideology. The Libertarian Party mostly consists of fools whose main priorities are weed, and gay marriage --these ex"""libertarians""" and now natsocs are just the revere side of retard.

You're not fooling anyone.

Sup Forums is a natsoc board, it hasn't been lolbertarian in years

This. Also "ignorance in modern time is a choice."

Natsoc =/= Stormfront newfags
The door is over there.

we've come to understand true human nature is all

Libertarians survive until they try to talk about Libertarianism to a non-white

I really doubt anyone in this thread is from Stormfront. In any case you are being intellectually dishonest. Stormfag is universally used as an insult towards Fascists and National Socialists in the broad sense.

my dude years before this place was popular it was like 8 stormfags larping to each other

they were here first

no but can you fuck off

go back

Libertarianism was implicitly a white ideology, if only because of its focus on personal agency.

shill harder, op.

pic related ( OP )

Stormfronters = natsoc, are you being retarded on purpose?

A lot of us just aren't being as vocal right now because Trump seems to be doing the country some good in the short term and we don't want to ruin that with ideological division

I am the type of person you are describing. I think this is a new phenomenon and it's the result of views espoused by the left. As a libertarian you start to see how conned minorities are and hos unreasonable they are. You start to see that they will really never be satisfied until whites are doing much worse. You start to see that it is NOT about equality of fairness. You start to see that the constitution and the ideals you once believed in simply can not exist as long as these people have considerable political power because they will wreck it. It is then that you fault the constitution for the state of things. It is then that you realize that socialism really would not be so bad without the minority leeches and with some authority to straighten out people who were not contributing. After the attacks on straight white men, you start to also buy into identity politics. Congrats, you are now a white nationalist. The problem was never really with socialism or not enough freedom. The problem was giving niggers freedom to wreck your country. That's not the freedom I want.

"Fascists" that support Jewish autists like Pinochet or even a single aspect of libertarianism are massive cucks, real Fascism is about mixed economy system with strong position of state.

>libertarianism
>remotely intellectual

my sides

Libertarian -> fascist is a meme. Libertarians and fascists have lived happily on Sup Forums for many years.

>calling Judeo-Hitlerites nazis

>implying commies can into economics.

I don't know myself

I guess I'm more susceptible to right wing stimuli cause my parents divorced when I was little

ancaps are retards though

right on
youtube.com/watch?v=SpDimHnFohE
t. LTV

>fascist libertarian

i wanted to say something about your opinions... but holy fuck they found cells on mars?

Communism is a universal ideology, and almost similar to Islam, they have to spread their ideology to the rest of the world because there has to be world wide socialism for "real" communism to usher in a new era. Thus most leftists, unless they quite explicitly arent marxists, are a ticking time bomb that will try to grab hold of instutions to subvert unless they are supressed

Interesting, so the right-wingers in Slovenia were historically the actuall cucks?

I always were a national liberalist, all the 1900 totalitarianisms are pure shitposting are simplifications of reality because the tard cannot solve and analyse the problem.
I shitpost stalinism, nazism, communism and so on but let me ask you the opposite: Why all of you on leftypol seem to be ignorants who circle jerk one analysis of history witch is totally fawled?

/thread

I believe human progress is an evolutionary process that requires both variation and selection. The left seeks to eliminate selection (egalitarianism, wealth redistribution) and the authoritarian right would eliminate variation (muh degeneracy). I identify as libertarian because it allows both elements necessary for social and economic progress. I think the ex-libertarian part comes from abandoning parts of libertarianism that are perceived as giving leftists a weakness to exploit, for example open borders being used to import shitloads of low skill workers who form liberal voting blocks. You can only hear liberals say "demography is destiny" so many times before you realize they're dead serious.

Libertarianism is unsustainable in a democracy in which a significant part of the population has become authoritarian leftist.

The NAP doesn't apply to commies for the same reason. It's ok to throw commies out of helicopters, because by being commies, they oppose everything that you are and will stop at nothing to subjugate you.
By being commies, they fired first.

And you just hurt my sides

they've realised that they would not suceed in fair competition

does an "advanced economics" course include a chapter or two on "how to starve your country" and "how to be irrelevant in 20 years"?

1 post by this ID. Fucking shills you aren't fooling anyone

>>workers, who are seen as mere statistics and "labour force".

implying they are not, muh identitiy sentimantal german cry-baby,

you know what, a robot is better than a working-class german because apart from the same skills you can install some humor into him

sounds like Ancap Somalia to me

Hitler Birthday thread speech thread on /gif/

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RIP communism, 1917-2017

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>Gary Johnson
A-al-aleppo????

>somalia is bad due to being almost ancap
>it has nothing to do with the population being entirely composed of violent niggers and muslims

Somalia actually enjoys one of the best standards of living in Africa, and not just compared to congo tier hellholes, but also redistributing government states like south africa