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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

freedom-school.com/money/how-an-economy-grows.pdf
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Fuck you, ANTIFAggot.

I literally can not wait until it's Commie killing day.

You will never gain a foothold on this board.

only good commie is a dead commie.
let economics & logic fuck your communist poopshooter with a horse dick strap on.
daddy stalin bound and gagged watching in the corner.

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(Sage)

Lurk more, faggot, you may be spared from the helicopters.

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you just have to pick up a history book about the 20th century and see how many lives communism and socialism cut short and then you may see why you are completely wrong.

(sage)

>Spaincuck
>Ripping up American Flag

Proponents of capitalism argue that the real living standards of those on low pay are better raised by allowing the whole economy to grow. As it grows, those at the bottom of the social heap will benefit from wealth that ‘trickles down’ from the top.
The falsity of this argument can be seen by looking at the figures.
The long term rate of growth of the UK economy is 2.5 percent per annum(1993).

How many years would it take a woman earning the median wage to get up to £300 per week at this growth rate? The answer is 30 years: check it on your calculator. Socialist redistribution could achieve directly what would otherwise take the better part of a working lifetime. With socialism the employee can have her cake and eat it too. She gets a once and for all rise in income through redistribution, but economic growth does not stop, so she will continue to enjoy rising earnings year by year.

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Something misunderstood by many people is that there is a difference between being left-wing and being an SJW AntiFa piece of shit. The issue with communism is that it is a utopian system, and will therefore never be achieved because there will always be greedy people hungry for power. Most of the "left" (SJWs, etc) are liberal in their socio-economic and political views, thus falling almost directly in the middle of the spectrum. The majority of people with legitimate communist or socialist viewpoints are very much against the views and actions of groups such as AntiFa.

(sage)

Pick up an economic textbook.

fuck the working class, fuck white people and fuck donald trump

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>stateless society
>socialist state
Pick one.

>'wither away' as Marx said
How'd that work out for the USSR and every other country that's tried it? Bakunin was right and you all vilify him.

You're on the wrong site, 'comrade.'
sage

>give me your redpills /leftypol/
Specifically, the work you do is always worth more than what you are paid, because the capitalist can sell whatever it is you produce for more than you were paid in wages. The productive forces of our society are controlled by a tiny elite instead of by the people, so what ends up happening is that millions of proles sweat their lives away while the porky bastards windsurf in Hawaii.
To put it in terms you might be more familiar with, capitalists are the ultimate welfare queens.
>my stance on hatred of jews and niggers will never change.
To say that your position on any topic will never change is to declare yourself to be beyond reason. That said, those "jews" and "evil niggers" are your natural allies regardless of what you think about them, because they are being exploited just like you are. The leftist position on racism is as much about pragmatism as it is about a commitment to equality.

The basic gist is that capitalism is inherintly broken.
Companies want to make as much money as possible which means paying works the smallest amount possible.
Eventually workers can't afford to buy things, meaning the whole system collapses.
Currently with automation we are going to see a huge loss of jobs that will make the concept of full employment obsolete - so who is going to buy things?
Communism isn't some grand fucking conspiracy about race or western civilization - its just a question of economics.

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>To say that your position on any topic will never change is to declare yourself to be beyond reason.
Will your position on communism ever change?
Can you give me a number of objective non-vague facts that if proven false would make you stop being a communist?

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>people deserve returns from the capital they never invested in
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freedom-school.com/money/how-an-economy-grows.pdf

Hey, you didn't answer me.
Are you beyond reasoning or not? Will your position on communism ever change?

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Forgot the text. But is that report sponsored by the (((Mises))) institute?

Hey comrade, your previous friend said that if you say that
>To say that your position on any topic will never change is to declare yourself to be beyond reason
Are you beyond reasoning comrade? Will your opinion on communism change?

What's the difference between Marxism-Leninism-Maoism and Maoism-Third Worldism