The holocaust denial is a strong topic on this board. I am sure that to some extent Sup Forums is right. But EVERYTHING that pol is trying to prove is debunked here. How can one argue against such amount of detailed prof of holocaust?
Don't get me wrong, I am not against Sup Forums here. I am just trying to get myself ready for anyone who would try to use such sources to prove me wrong, when arguing against holocaust.
If we try to leave the jewish agenda aside, what are the most reasonable comments and reliable proofs to deny holocaust?
The Jewish religion is largely the same brand of Satanism as Islam; the entire thing is built around the concept of lying to everybody who isn't in the tribe.
Ergo, everything that comes out of the mouth of a Jew may safely be assumed to be a lie. If Jews claim that the holocaust is real, the most likely state of affairs is that it is not real. QED.
Jace Bell
Linking to youtube is reddit tier. Post an actual source.
Caleb Baker
Ok. But you cant /thread yourself.....
Isaac Anderson
I understand that. But how can one go against the numbers? How would you argue if someone said "what about all those names of people that died in camps? There are 5mio+ of them. How can you deny it!"?
Leo Miller
>1hr 30 min video >part one Yeah no, not gonna watch that. As for holocaust, deniers will say it's all jew lies
Ian Parker
you're never going to get an answer. Just because the ludicrous claims of certain opportunists are obviously untrue (rollercoasters to ovens, etc.) doesn't mean it didn't happen
Just because liars claimed to have been victims of the 9/11 attacks for personal gain, doesn't mean the world trade center didn't come down.
These weird claims about "Zyclon B being to toxic/flammable" (it isn't, at the small doses needed to kill mammals), about burn rates (false, industrial crematoria burned much faster than modern single use mortuary facilities, not to mention the use of mass open air burn pits), etc. etc. etc. all start from the position that "the holocaust isnt real" and use obscure, bogus claims and the fact that reputable historians wont bother debating to "prove" that it wasnt real
Thomas Gomez
Oh, well you're falling in to a common Jewish trap. It is they who claim that you are denying something that they themselves do not agree on or provide adequate proof for.
The way to deal with it is to simply ignore them. The entire scam relies on tricking you into caring about a non-issue.
Brody Davis
It doesn't matter, there are still Jews left.
Dylan White
Im not a denier but ill make some criticisms
>>If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.[14]
Gassing is being taken out of context here. Mustard gas was a weapon of war, and hes referring to the context of being on a battlefield. Not a smoking gun
>>Today I want to be a prophet once more: if international Jewry succeeds in plunging the nations into another world war, the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth, and thereby the victory of Jewry, but the destruction of the Jewish race in Europe![15][16][17]
This quote actually makes it look like Hitler didnt want a world war. Hmm
>>. . . [T]he war will not end as the Jews imagine it will, namely with the uprooting of the Aryans, but the result of this war will be the complete annihilation of the Jews. Now for the first time they will not bleed other people to death, but for the first time the old Jewish law of an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, will be applied. And -- world Jewry may as well know this -- the further these battles [of the war] spread, the more anti-Semitism will spread. It will find nourishment in every prison camp and in every family when it discovers the ultimate reason for the sacrifices it has to make. And the hour will come when the most evil universal enemy of all time will be finished, as least for a thousand years
... this sure is very damning evidence that he would have ordered a holocaust. A common holocaust denial is saying that the prison camps were for rehabilitation, this quote suggests otherwise however.
Mason Ward
not to mention the insanely uninformed assumption that every jew/undesirable was killed at a death camp (completely false, millions were killed through deliberate overwork, starvation, or were killed in mass execution on the eastern front, with thousands and thousands of corroborating witnesses, not to mention SS documents which provide counts of Jews which have been rounded up and liquidated)
David Howard
this is not a logical assumption.
See, you are extremely stupid. For example, you believe that Judaism is a "brand" of "satanism." Which is insane, considering the concept of Satan is of Jewish origin
But, if you said "Abraham Lincoln was the 16th US president," I could not assume this was wrong, just because you are stupid and insane.
Chase Harris
" A common holocaust denial is saying that the prison camps were for rehabilitation, this quote suggests otherwise however." Well this are from the extreme denyers which are also absurd.
True dat.
But some of the things that they teach about the holocaust really seem like a theater sketch... in other word, they make no sense.
Leo Campbell
*the concept of Satan as a negative mythological figure, I mean
Jaxon Robinson
Hello, JIDF.
Jason Robinson
this is not an argument
Robert Murphy
>But some of the things that they teach about the holocaust really seem like a theater sketch... in other word, they make no sense. Such as?
Connor Young
So what? You're the one who wants to start an argument.
Sebastian Turner
There was never a "holocaust" but there should've been one. Rest assured there WILL BE one, as the fucking kikes deserve one. We won't rest until every single filthy parasitic kike is rounded up and slaughtered like the vermin they are. The White Race has had more than enough of the Jew, and we're fully prepared to kill those parasites a million times over. These greedy, hook-nosed vermin KNOW their days are numbered, and unlike in the past, they now have nowhere to run. This time, there won't be any kikes left alive to spread around the planet to hide like cockroaches. We WILL get them ALL into the oven and their putrid memory will finally be erased from the planet once and for all. Like all parasites, the Jew continues to reproduce until we wipe out every single last one of them. That's why it's CRUCIAL that ALL kikes are exterminated fully, for the good of us all.
Tyler Williams
Israel works hard at genetically identifying the target population as part of their ongoing ethnic cleansing program, so this should make it easier to execute an actual, meaningful holocaust.
Elijah James
That time when you have to create a wiki page to cover your lies.
Parker Powell
dude I'm a little curious, why do you hate the jews so much?
Oliver Gutierrez
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Gabriel Garcia
Lets say for example that Mexicans lived in finland.
The Mexicans lie to you daily. Rob you daily. Systematically target your children, daily. Collude daily to make damn sure they and only they have jobs or money whatsoever. Collude daily to make sure your daughters are empowered whores. Despise you and make no secret that they despise you. Refuse you service in their establishments for no real reason. Target you with systemic blatant hostility at any time you're in areas they see as "theirs" (nevermind that they are foreigners). Make no attempt to stop their criminals from targeting you for robbery rape murder fraud and a thousand other social ills. Actively purposely hide child predators in their population as long as those child predators ONLY target non-Mexican people. Spout the most hate filled racism you can imagine in public and private and openly gloat with open hostility on any bad things that happen o you.
The list could go on but you get the point, I think.
Ask yourself; if Mexicans (or jews) did this behavior around me daily, would I like them?
Hunter Jackson
Well wouldnt put my hand in fire for the following but: The chrematoriums of modern day need about 2-4 hours to completely disintegrate a body. The ovens in the 40's must have needed much much more time. Based on this one could question where are the corpses of so claimed 6mio jews, since they found quite small amounts of corpses.
Ethan Wright
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Aaron Harris
Wait until you get fucked over by a jew, then you will see. They are evil.
Hudson Bennett
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Ethan Cox
Don't forget they charge you money for it, and are above the law, so they can engage in rampant genital mutilation at the same time they criticize the muslims for doing the same thing.
Easton James
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Michael Brown
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Elijah Hall
So the reason is memes?
Ok, I admit that is pretty bad. Do you have any proof of that?
see >industrial crematoria burned much faster than modern single use mortuary facilities, not to mention the use of mass open air burn pits
Nicholas Gomez
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Camden Flores
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Lincoln Ward
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Camden Thompson
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Daniel Cooper
>it was real in my head
Carson Rivera
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Christopher Parker
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Christian Miller
their blood is flamable jews= vampires confirmed
Wyatt Jones
Jews had a fair warning and a chance to leave before the holocaust started. In the US they just put a bag over your head at the airport and you get beaten out of the plane when you are in Kuba. Yet we are the bad ones.
Colton Adams
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Zachary Johnson
>How can one argue against such amount of detailed prof of holocaust? There is no detailed proof of the Holocaust.
Damn, I'm having trouble opening images on 4chainz. In any case, wasn't the terrorist guy a muslim? Or are you saying the da joos are guilty for pushing mass immigration? Dude single mainstream politician, Jewish or not, has been pushing for mass immigration for quite a while now. I don't see how that proves that jews are the reason for it, they may just be imitating your cuck politicians
Jason Green
Theres oceans of proof that has been building up for years. I can assure you, all the mistreatment the jews whine about? Number 1 it isn't mistreatment and number 2 they brought it on themselves.
Any population, jewish or otherwise, who goes about with arrogant contempt for everyone else and acts like the other population isn't fit to wash their socks, brings hatred and enmity towards itself.
Their whole CULTURE is about being by-definition infinitely above the goyim in every single way.
Their Talmud is filled with hatred towards every non jew, and their religious leaders echo this hatred towards goyim daily.
I assure you, the expulsions and pogroms they whine about, they richly deserved. You can't just infinitely repeat the pattern of fucking EVERYONE over, over, and over, and over, and over, and over again, without someone somewhere eventually catching on and not liking it, and you definitely can't do this and then throw it in the peoples faces because you think they are literally to stupid to resist you.
Also don't forget that jewry declared war on Germany years before ww2 even started, and that in the Russian 1917 revolt significant fraction of the upper leadership was jews, and in the Bavarian communist revolt, 100% of the leaders were jews.
Its easy to see where the "stabbed in the back" meme came from.
Austin Ortiz
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Justin Hughes
Op cant thread himself fucking nig
Grayson Mitchell
Kiddo, you got something wrong - In Judaism, they lie to everyone who isn't a part of the cult's leadership.
Also, are you mentally retarded? your "logic" is like the outcome of a failed abortion.
Bentley Perez
>why do you hate the jews so much?
Chase Watson
I'm aware of that, having had to live among them for a long time. But that's something that comes to be best understood by seeing how they operate with that level of intimacy.
For average people who live mainly among other normal people, it is sufficient to simplify it to the simple fact that if you're not one of them then they're going to lie to you at an even more institutionalized and rationalized rate than otherwise.
Jayden Mitchell
>"da joos are guilty for pushing mass immigration"
Yes, they're the "man behind the curtain" as in the Wizard Of OZ... They're the source of so many of the problems in the world today.
If ethnic jews never existed in the first place, then our politicians and the entertainment media etc, wouldn't be promoting and pushing for things like mass immigration and diversity and LGBT stuff and so on.
>In Mein Kampf, Hitler described children resulting from any kind of relationship to African occupation soldiers as a contamination of the white race "by negro blood on the Rhine in the heart of Europe."
>Hitler thought that "Jews were responsible for bringing negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the White Race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate."
Lincoln Hughes
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Aaron Richardson
okay but who gives a shit what some autistic chess player thinks lol
Levi Edwards
I don't know any Jews so I can't say how true any of that is. Would you happen to have any statistical data about Jewish hateful attitudes?
Also, when it comes to the whole encouraging race mixing thing, Jews are mixing more than anyone else, they'll probably eventually blend in due to mixing
Let me ask you this, Sven. Who's more of a fag, he who takes dick up the ass or he who gives it? Even if we assume that Jews could push this shit through, why on earth would you (or us, for that matter) fall for it? Also, Hitler shot himself. I'm not sure are reliable source historians consider him
Ryan Phillips
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Logan Rivera
I'm not sure a stat-set of their behavior like that has ever really been done, but I encourage you to read what the Talmud has to say about "min", "minim", and "goyim".
I also encourage you to look into the "Conspiracy of Silence" documentary as well as Ovadia Yosef and his Shas party.
Alright, I'll try to answer your "arguments" one more time, one after another:
>Number 1 it isn't mistreatment How the fuck is this an argument of any sort? this sentence is retarded and it is just pure-agenda. Your answer to this will be "They are Jewish so that's the treatment they deserve, hence no mistreatment". Dumb burger.
>and number 2 they brought it on themselves. Agreeable. I agree the Jews made people hate them, but I still do think that most of the holocaust's "outburst" on Jews came on the wrong Jews - you targeted secular ones who have nothing to do with Rothschild or any other banker instead of targeting the Jews who actually cause the hate and deserve to be thrown away.
>Any population, jewish or otherwise, who goes about with arrogant contempt for everyone else and acts like the other population isn't fit to wash their socks, brings hatred and enmity towards itself. This is pure generalization, read the reply to your former argument.
>Their whole CULTURE is about being by-definition infinitely above the goyim in every single way. Bible-wise, no. The bible says that we have to respect the goy, the widow and the infant more than anyone else. On the other hand, the common ideology by right-wing Jews (the type that leads our country sadly) is somewhat into superiority and arrogance. Can't argue with that.
>Their Talmud is filled with hatred towards every non jew never read that piece of garbage, can't respond to it.
>in the Russian 1917 revolt significant fraction of the upper leadership was jews Same response as before about attacking the low-tier while the high-tier is at fault.
You're seriously affected by those pictures people meme here around with the anti-communism agenda. communism is not only for Jews, else we'd be living under communism rule in Israel, or at the very least have a communist party - we fucking don't.
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Cameron Adams
Are you from /r/March Against Trump? Or just a clueless newfag?
Asher Price
I stand corrected. I was referrring to the Askenazi jews in the US, and I should have stated that
Nathaniel Green
((((Wikipedia))))
Jose Edwards
>Are you from /r/March Against Trump? Or just a clueless newfag? Neither. I'm just not going to buy into stuff that has no proof
Carson Diaz
I'll go into full-generalizing mode and split Jews into 3 main groups: >secular Jews, working class people, have nothing to do with any of the reasons you hate Jews. >Religious Jews. Have an ideology that doesn't completely fit modern society and the goyim's wishes. Like "Shas" you mentioned, "הבית היהודי" (just google it, its another right-wing party here) and most of the cult-like Jewish communities that wear their shitty suits with the oversized fedora all day long. They do hate goyim, although generalizing too much here is problematic because there are sub-groups with different agendas. >those in charge. think of it like damn illuminati or other retarded autistic global-control meme society. They control everyone, including the former Jews I mentioned.
Colton Hughes
>"if we assume that Jews could push this shit through"
No need to assume anything, as they already have "pushed through" with most of their agenda.
>"why would anyone fall for it"
Incremental, slow, step-by-step brainwashing since the 1920s will do that to any peoples of any society.
Swedes tried to stop the jews in the 1930s but already back then they controlled the papers and through their influence they banned nationalist meetings and groups. Then WW2 happened and after that anything leaning towards nationalism was banned/forbidden, and ridiculed. Plus after the war there was a mass immigration of jews to the country.
>I was referrring to the Askenazi jews in the US, and I should have stated that You mean the Jews that are promoting racemixing, non-White immigration, feminism, homosexuality, pornography, unconditional support for Israel, etc for every White country but never for Israel?
Those Jews?
Nolan Carter
It's actually the secular Jews who have done the most to convince me that, whether it's genetic, cultural, religious, the trauma of enduring being raised by a Jewish mother, or whatever else, there is a pretty reliable tendency to be the stereotypical parasite.
I wouldn't finger your average Jew off the street for being maniacal, but on the whole your chances are pretty good that if you associate with them you're going to get Jewed and they're going not see what's wrong with that.
Mason Diaz
>I'm just not going to buy into stuff that has no proof Except the Holocaust, apparently. lol
Carson Perez
old pre-ww2 swedish stuff
>The papers are lying about the new Germany, at the order of the jews. They lie because they know the Swedish nationalist revolution would mean the end of the ruthless jewish domination and parasitic behavior.
>End this jewish factory of lies and propaganda of dumbing down, by voting for the National Socialist Workers Party.
Dominic Lee
Swedish NatSoc Party poster.
>"Demonstrate agains the Jewish immigration. Vote for the NatSoc Workers Party"
Joshua Johnson
>I wouldn't finger your average Jew off the street for being maniacal, but on the whole your chances are pretty good that if you associate with them you're going to get Jewed and they're going not see what's wrong with that. Here's a counter argument to that statement.
Gabriel Price
Ah. Now those, those are the ones that stir up the hate. They are spread around though, look into your own land, find someone talking about how your people have no culture, or how you need to change and nine times out of eleven it's one of them.
>>those in charge. think of it like damn illuminati or other retarded autistic global-control meme society. They control everyone, including the former Jews I mentioned.
Undoubtedly, the difficulty most of us have though is: how do we ferret out the problem ones. And how do we know the others aren't protecting them even if only out of fear. Take Hollywood for example, it's well known what happens when one "names the Jew".
Jack Price
Is it at all possible that Swedes actually thought that nignogs could become Swedes? That Swedes seriously thought that it would be a good thing?
Yes, those Jews. At least they seem to practice what they preach
There's plenty of proof for the holocaust
Jackson Torres
>how do we ferret out the problem ones. Ban Jewish citizenship, visitations and immigration. Ban Judaism as a religion. Ban circumcision. Ban Kosher products. Ban the Hebrew and Yiddish languages.
The problem will virtually solve itself.
Jace Reed
If you're new to the Holocaust, read Lectures on the Holocaust by Germar Rudolf
Isaac Garcia
from some magazine, from the swedish nationalist party in the 30s, it's talking about how our society (already back then) has been been torn apart by "class warfare" by Marxists who try to prevent Swedes from coming together and feeling unity and pride for their country.
Jace Ross
>Yes, those Jews. At least they seem to practice what they preach Yeah, what evidence do you have for that showing that the Jews are increasingly racemixing with the goyim in White countries and that it's promoted and celebrated?
That's more than enough evidence to prove that the Holocaust didn't happen.
Nathaniel Morales
Swedish Nazi Party meeting in Stockholm.
Joseph Young
>if you associate with them You do understand that according to Judaism, your mother has to be Jewish for you to be born Jewish, and there's no changing that afterwards, right?
I'll take myself as an example - my parents are officially registered as Jews in this country, hence I was born a Jew. I was raised on anti-religious and European values and have nothing to do with Judaism besides hating it. Now, the country and the Jews that control the world would count me in as a Jew, aka meatshield for their shit and propaganda, even if I become a devote Catholic - for them I'm still considered a Jew because my mother was Jewish when I was born. While on the other more realistic side/end, I can be a devote Christian, denounce every ounce of Judaism off of me, yet I won't be able to get rid of this title that the "controlling Jews" staple to me.
I don't know what to suggest to that, but I do hope there will be a cleansing in the political scene from all of those agenda-pushing fucks.
Andrew Murphy
David Irving told the truth about everything and can reveal cases of a fuckton of fabricated evidence. Of course you can "debunk" everything if you mount the lies higher. He provides cases where documents had no official stamps, forged signatures and handwriting, where paper was newer than the war, etc. If the holocaust were a thing none of that would be necessary, nor would character assassinations.
Angel Jenkins
All of this was banned after the war, actually already in 1944 most of it was (((made illegal))).
Jordan Flores
>The control samples tested negative, while cyanide residue was found in high concentrations in the delousing chambers, and lower concentrations in the homicidal gas chambers. This is consistent with the amounts required to kill lice and humans
>It takes more cyanide to kill lice than humans
Daniel Cook
>You do understand that according to Judaism, your mother has to be Jewish for you to be born Jewish, and there's no changing that afterwards, right? I do, yes.
Whatever the underlying reason is (I suspect circumcision trauma is a counterpart as well, although this I would place broadly under the curse of having a Jewish mother -- they are utter monsters who beget monsters) the fact remains that the Jew, technical or otherwise, will habitually Jew you if you allow him to do so. Few will understand the world the way you do.
I guess you could call that superiority if that's your definition of superiority. I think it's been demonstrably successful for the perpetuation of the tribe. But I view the world differently, and I don't call that superior behavior.
Austin King
>In the United States from 1996 to 2001, nearly half (47 percent) of marriages involving Jews were intermarriages with non-Jewish partners >National Jewish Population Survey 2000-01 Also forgive me but I'm not going to buy all those books just to discuss this with you. You'll have to TL;DR them for me
Colton Collins
>the fact remains that the Jew, technical or otherwise, will habitually Jew you if you allow him to do so. Few will understand the world the way you do. Can Science Explain Why Jewish Supremacists Behave the Way they Do? davidduke.com/can-science-explain-jewish-supremacists-behave-way/
>Also forgive me but I'm not going to buy all those books just to discuss this with you Every last book and documentary film in those links is free to download. They just ask that you give them a donation or consider buying whichever books you like to assist them in getting the message out.
>You'll have to TL;DR them for me "The Holocaust literally didn't happen and here is the proof."
Nathan Rivera
I tried to give you logical explanations above and beyond, but you just don't seem to even get your head out of your ass and stopping your autistic "jews are the only evil" circlejerk.
Those who are controlling you know how to manipulate, Jews or not. Why is it mostly Jews? I don't fucking know, but your view is so narrow and arrogant (no proof to be given, no logical argument) - only yelling "muh jews control meh".
I've discussed in previous threads about this, but you just seem to be stuck in your arse and just yelling 'muh jews' to get off.
Carter Barnes
Ok sure, I'll go read all of them. brb
Hunter Reed
You want someone to prove Jew behaviour to you in a comment? Are you willing to read a book or three, or at least watch some videos showing evidence of those different areas of Jewish influence? It's not a maths equation. I can't prove it to you logically through an aphorism.
Because there are many hours of video and radio from, for example David Duke alone, where he references Jewish behaviour, usually from Jewish sources. Are you willing to google David Duke's videos and watch them, or do you need me to do that for you?
I'm at a loss as to how you expect someone to prove multiple threads of history to you. Hey, do you have any proof WW2 happened? Do you have any proof Genghis Khan existed?
Nothing that comes out of your mouth is proof. I have to go and read about the subject for myself.
Read Duke's "My Awakening", or Kevin McDonald's "Culture of Critique", or Henry Ford's "The International Jew", or Luther's "The Jews and Their Lies", or look up the subject matter of Ariel Toaff's "Passovers of Blood", or read the "Jewish Question" section of The Daily Stormer, or watch Eric Hunt's videos about the holocaust hoax on Youtube, or look up the any of the dozens if not hundreds of historically significant men from every time period talking about the Jews.
Leo Lopez
I'm acquainted with psychological warfare. At no point did I claim it was only Jews; only that Jews categorically behave like Jews.
That's not surprising. Every group categorically behaves in accordance with its underlying psychological forces.
Luke Hughes
People who deny the existence of the camps and that the Nazis prejudiced Jews (for whatever reason) are fucking retarded. The evidence is there for both these facts.
What we dispute is the existence of a concerted effort to kill all Jews the Nazis got their hands on. The camps were work camps and large numbers did die towards the end thanks to Allied air attacks causing logistical issues and a typhus epidemic in 1945.
Charles Stewart
MEME WAR
Brody Edwards
>Ok sure, I'll go read all of them. brb Start with either the hoax of the twentieth century or the leucher report.
Adrian Flores
fuck you, I hate you Sup Forums I don't want to believe it, now I have to get a swastika tatoo
Jaxon Ramirez
>You want someone to prove Jew behaviour to you in a comment? Are you willing to read a book or three, or at least watch some videos showing evidence of those different areas of Jewish influence? It's not a maths equation. I can't prove it to you logically through an aphorism. This user implied that Jews protect child predators provided they only target non-Jews. May I have a link to that, for example? Is there any statistical proof for these widespread anti-goyim attitudes? Any research papers to back it up?
As for David Duke or Kevin McDonald, what credibility do they have? How do I know they're not just pulling shit out of their own asses? Selectively quoting stuff? Or is this one of those "you're not allowed to criticize unless you watch 6 gorillion hours of these vids" type of things? Because I'm not going to do that, because I don't care enough
