Fascism is for submissives looking for a strong man father figure. Those who follow fascists are by definition followers and weaklings.
Look up the etymology. Fascism comes from the term 'fasces'; a bundle of sticks wrapped around (one could say in rapture to) an axe handle with a projecting axe blade.
This is the core metaphor that defines fascism. The metaphor being that the many must give their will power up to the one (usually a strong man leader).
This ideology is by definition about weak people looking to give up their own power or direction (and most often giving up their own rights and freedoms in the process). To usurp themselves, to be submissive... and ergo the whole ideology is one of weakness. Fascists are the most submissive and weak people in my opinion.
You know I'm fine with people who want to be strong, who want to be an authority; but being a leader is about genuinely giving others help in exploring their own individual strengths, it's not about claiming the authority of a collective of submissives as if that makes you strong. It doesn't; it makes for the weakest ideology and followers possible. Fascism is the most deflationary, it poses the biggest lie, and is hence comprised of the biggest losers.
A human should be a human beyond all states; and hence able to inhabit all states. Fascism is nihilistic to individual authority and hence is nothing but a fragile empty shell that looks tough but ultimately hides deep weakness and as my title suggests; fascism contains some of the most submissive and damaged people possible. People in need of a genuine strength; but looking in the wrong place.
Tyler Gutierrez
>Fascism is for submissives looking for a strong man father figure. Those who follow fascists are by definition followers and weaklings. You just described AntiFa, who are actually fascists. Complete cocksmoking lemmings.
Hudson Edwards
so i described fascists? got it
Cooper Clark
I'm not trying to be snarky OP, but what do you think about the torchlight marches etc.? It seems to me that a desire to be part of a community that's working together for some kind of common purpose is a deep instinctual drive that many people share. In olden times, this was channeled into hunting for your tribal group so they have enough to eat, fighting for your tribal group so they are safe - the community solidarity and shared collective purpose was tangible and real. This seems to be totally missing from modern society - the closest we have is a sports game, where really the "fans" are just cheering for two different corporate franchises. You can work at a job and maybe even achieve something exceptional as part of a team, but really you aren't a community in any real sense, you are people hired by the same company for economic purposes. Where is an outlet for people who desire community of action and purpose in the modern society, and is this perhaps the emotional need that successfully fascism filled, which is not to defend any of ts many failures
Nathaniel Lopez
You will always be ruled.
Uniting behind a ruler with pride is better than being jewed behind your back and cucked due to lazy negligence.
Oliver Wilson
None of that is a problem if you agree with each other's goals on a national level.
Oliver Perry
This. Would rather be owned by a lunatic that loves his country to death than bankers and corporate entities.
Charles Hall
there is always going to be a hierarchy
Noah Gonzalez
I never understood with their symbol was literally a bunch of faggots.
Whoever came with that brilliant idea should have gotten the spanking Mussolini had.
Also why don't you burger anons just shoot the antifa fags and end this shitposting season?
Jacob Ramirez
Op is his picture
Nolan Lopez
No, Fascism values hierarchy. Those with the strongest will, and are the most able will have the most power.
If you're strong and able you will benefit the most from Fascism.
Chase Rivera
founder and leader of the national SOCIALIST party
keep drinking the jew banker's socialism is "bad" cool-aid.
Isaac Bailey
the problem here is the state my dude
i have nothing against voluntary association and when people voluntary decide to create a fascist ethno state or community they can go ahead and do so ... but they should also expect that people won't like the idea
either way ... everyone should get out of each others way thats why Anarcho Capitalism is superior
Luke Bell
>Fascists are the most submissive and weak people in my opinion.
Not an argument.
Grayson Cox
>symbol of fascism = bundle of sticks
> bundle of sticks = faggot
MY NEURONS ARE FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS
Christian Green
tl;dr
You seem like a huge faggot though. That's when a cuckold is in rapture to a huge imported penis
Samuel Wright
an anarchy will never be able to defend itself, physically or ideologically.
Jacob Cook
actually, it's a masculine trait to follow worthy authority.
Josiah Wood
>A human should be a human beyond all states; and hence able to inhabit all states.
Then one day you wake up and that homeless global elite you thought was made up of people all like you turns out to be filled with masons and jews, which will conspire against you ... and win.
Find strength in your nation or become the bottom in a gang bang, your choice.
Adrian Howard
Where, in your view, should a "genuine strength" be sought then? How do you conceptualize it?
Not trolling, just curious.
Owen Ortiz
i love you
James Anderson
German Hans against fascism. What a surprise.
This
William Collins
Genuine strength and will are rare. On top of that, the strength required to fix our societies' problems is more than any one man has.
Individualism is at the centre of the western world's decline because it is incompatible with civilisation and culture. The word "civilisation" even has its roots in the concepts of law and statehood, both of which require community and cooperation to exist.
Hunter Long
This post is fake and gay overall, but contains a kernel of truth in that we must primarily save ourselves rather than just shitpost whilst waiting for the next Hitler to come along to magically fix everything. There are quite a lot of "NEETSocs" on the chans that appear to basically do that. The first thing to focus on is self improvement like lifting weights and eating healthy.
The other element of the fasces that you conveniently left out is the axe, representing the dictator, literally a person who dictates i.e. speaks for the people. It's an axe to represent that the ultimate state power of execution is invested in them. The dictator is nothing without a strong and unified people, and he only has his authority so long as he represents them. Obviously this is prone to corruption as are all political systems, but in theory at least it's a good system.
Kevin Hall
Be fair to Helmet...he hasn't had a strong male role model in four generations.
Anthony Rogers
>bundle of sticks... with a projecting axe blade
So the symbol of Fascism is a dangerous faggot?
Evan Lee
I read a line in a Paolo Cuelho book where a character said that the bloodiest fights are the ones where God is on both sides. You could also say 'where truth is on both sides. 'AnCap may be the best economics system from an efficiency point of view, but it just seems like something is lacking on an emotional level. What is the ultimate purpose? Where is the goal in the future? The noble cause worth sacrificing for? That's potentially the good side of fascism. The bad side is when you realize your leader is a warmongering madman, imo
Cameron Baker
>i have nothing against voluntary association So what do you have against fascism?
You use loaded terms like submissive disingenuously to connote negative emotional value. It's cheap and lame. Further, though, implicit is the assumption of the superiority of dominance, and the belief that *everyone* should be dominate. Such a society couldn't function. Any organization or movement or corporation needs leaders and followers. The only difference with fascism is it's one deeply trusted, clear-sighted visionary leader who can act decisively vs. other systems like a parliamentary system where there are many squabbling factions and they can accomplish nothing. The problems of the modern age are too many, too complex, and currently the media, the banks, the corporations are subverting government by its division, indecisiveness and weakness.
John Mitchell
>Where, in your view, should a "genuine strength" be sought then?
in yourself
>The only difference with fascism is it's one deeply trusted, clear-sighted visionary leader who can act decisively
Spoiler alert: This leader doesn't exist and its exactly what my thread is about.
People want to believe such a person exist and blindly throw themselves behind the next politician who promises what they were always searching for but they always get disappointed. It never works.
Leo Moore
FDR confirmed fascist.
Hunter Hernandez
What's with the noticeably more cucked Germanposting? Did Shitblue open up a new branch?
Justin Jackson
Who knew you were still posting here.
Nolan Evans
>People want to believe such a person exist and blindly throw themselves behind the next politician who promises what they were always searching for but they always get disappointed. It never works.
Better than whatever democratic failures created.
Asher Baker
There have been many examples of strong men, strong leaders in history. Such figures are rare but they have existed and many of the greatest periods in history are owed almost exclusively to them. Who thinks of Rome without thinking of Caesar? Who thinks of the glory of France without thinking of the glory of Napoleon? Oliver Cromwell accomplished a premature golden age of Great Britain. They are rare but they exist.
Brody King
Like you even know what Fascism is, cuckman from Cuckmany.
Angel Smith
Cromwell, don't get me started on that asshat Cromwell
Austin Baker
Fascism is Communism for Rednecks. Go AnCap or be a slave
Brandon Roberts
Whats with the Germanic people and weapons grade autism mixed with high tier retardation?
Lucas Garcia
It *starts* with yourself, but under the farce that is your democratic system you have no choice but to have your society invaded by an infinite number of rapefugees and terrorists, so clearly the system of government matters a great deal. You're suffering from a kind of cucked learned helplessness where you think this is just the way that things are. In reality, this is an insane unnatural situation artificially produced by kikes and traitors, who can be challenged and defeated if enough people stand against them.
Gavin Baker
Define fascism, then describe how any of us or the people we support represent each of its tenets.
Kevin Cox
It's incredible to think that the world of Nazi Germany actually existed and once nearly took over the world. Hitler is the most perfect to man to ever succeed in taking over a country and look at the country he built. It's beautiful.
Jason Mitchell
Radical individualism is the problem, you don't need to give up your individuality in order to love and serve your community.
Brandon Howard
there is basically one big problem with fascism it's a coin toss you either get a good dictator or a bad one so basically even if the first one is real good, the next one could be utter shit.
Cooper Hill
>A human should be a human beyond all states; and hence able to inhabit all states Your country of origin is a barbaric wasteland isnt it?
Jack Cook
>This is what fascism is >You just described fascism OP Good post.
Eli Lopez
>nearly took over the world.
Joshua Butler
Fascism is not just dictatorships.
Heck in my nation's case the Fascists were monarchists.
Fascism is if traditionalism grew a pair of balls and was linked with pragmatism.
The general ideas.
The faults of democracy. Turning sheep into lions. Securing the existence of one's own people.
Can apply to many political systems.
Owen Richardson
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Dominic Stewart
HOL UP latin word for bundle of sticks
Bundle of sticks? also know as "faggots" in english?
Jeremiah Perez
Bad dictators are supposed to get overthrown, but yes that's the obvious point of failure. It's necessary to also have an inviolable constitution and strong institutions the dictator doesn't have absolute control over.
Adam Ross
but it still needs strong leadership, no? i mean for example look at germany or sweden now. they would never get together to do something unless someone riles them up.
Nolan Roberts
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William Martinez
>but it still needs strong leadership, no?
Every functional system does. The plan is you use strong leadership to make a strong people which in term creates more leadership.
>i mean for example look at germany or sweden now. they would never get together to do something unless someone riles them up.
Sweden and Germany are lost causes and deserve everything they get.
The Germans got destroyed as a people post WW2.
And the Swedes doomed themselves through a myriad of stupid ways.
Adam Taylor
Oh look it's a faggot!
Daniel Jackson
Dude weed, lmao.
Brayden Gutierrez
>Sweden and Germany are lost causes they have basically the opposite of nationalistic leaders, i wouldn't put so much blame on the people as a whole. they are very pacified. yet i hear that even the turks in germany hate rapefugees.
Nathaniel Williams
>a bundle of sticks
antifa confirmed homophobes
Hudson Brooks
> i wouldn't put so much blame on the people as a whole. they are very pacified
I lack the knowledge and experience with Germanic people in Germany and how they were before WW2. But something tells me that it wasn't just pacification but outright destruction of a people. And now they are nothing more than broken toys.
Ian Kelly
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Cameron Anderson
nah, i think they have just been beaten down, i mean sooner or later they will snap, it's sort of natural i think, with the whole pendant swinging theory. a huge help would be a change in leadership tho.
Anthony Cruz
who here want /femdom/ type government
Isaac Bailey
All of Sup Forums must look into the following: >ETTORE >OVAZZA
Charles Collins
>fascism enhances and encourages the corruption of men >democracy rewards and sustains stupidity
somebody help me
Ryder Barnes
Fascism creates Israel the ME's only democracy...
Jonathan Peterson
AntiFa are not fascists. They are communists.
Angel Cruz
No. Fascists are people who recognize that people are fundamentally weak and need a strong central authority with a bit on their back in order to function properly.
Luke Baker
Nigga who tf said we liked fascism. Get your head out of your ass