Brit/pol/ - That's Why I'm Voting UKIP Edition

OFFICIAL THREAD THEME SONG:
youtube.com/watch?v=SrUDftDkH3E

>Happening: Champs-Elysées in Paris closed-Two policemen 'injured in Paris shooting'
bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39662315?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

>Farage rules out 8th attempt to stand for parliament
archive.fo/ECGcg
telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/20/nigel-farage-announces-will-not-stand-election-admits-tories/

>FT: Theresa May stands by pledge to keep cutting net migration
archive.fo/FX4hj

>Jeremy Corbyn vows to 'overturn the rigged system'
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39649119

>EU Toughens Brexit Stance in Sign U.K. Vote Won't Alter Approach
bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-20/eu-toughens-brexit-stance-in-sign-u-k-vote-won-t-alter-approach

>General Election is good for Brexit negotiations, says European Parliament President
news.sky.com/story/general-election-is-good-for-brexit-negotiations-says-european-parliament-president-10844115

>Hard Dose of Reality Hits Anti-Brexit Campaigners
bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-19/may-s-election-set-to-dash-anti-brexit-camp-s-hopes-of-reversal

>Which target seats are the ones to watch in General Election 2017? How Theresa May builds a working majority of 80
telegraph.co.uk/news/0/target-seats-ones-watch-general-election-2017how-theresa-may/

>'Job done': UKIP defector and Brexit campaigner Douglas Carswell will not seek re-election in June
uk.businessinsider.com/ukip-defector-douglas-carswell-will-not-seek-re-election-in-june-2017-4

>The general election will be a vote on Scottish independence
blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/04/general-election-will-vote-scottish-independence

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Tory landslode

>tfw I unironically watch the only way is essex

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Labour: 280
Conservative: 256
SNP: 56
Liberal Democrats: 35
PC: 7

Labour-SNP-LD-PC-Green-SDLP Alliance

Tories will get 420 seats. sgreengab dis

Ukip are civic nationalists. Only through the media people think they're racist.

And from everything we have seen since 2015 including the absolute meltdown of left wing politics, what makes you say that?

Fucking hell this is going round in circles.

1. Labour stand to lose more from a Lib Dem surge
2. The Tories will likely gain almost all marginal seats from Labour
3. Safe Labour seats are not important in this discussion as they will remain red like they always have

>June 10th
>10am
>Labour are down to 120 seats at the end of the election, many prominent Labour MPs and Labour heartlands have been lost to the Tories
>Corbyn takes the stage, everyone is expecting a resignation
>"My friends, obviously we are very disapointed with the results of the election and so I have decided to do something I should have done long ago... and purge the Labour party of any red Tory Blairite scum"
>"I have set up a new "Labour Purity" board to remove any Blairite infiltrators in the party, now we can fight the 2022 general election without worrying about right wing saboteurs in the party"

How likely is this to happen?
What would your reaction be to this happening?

> Safe Labour seats are not important in this discussion as they will remain red like they always have

smug_copeland_pepe.jpeg

Military coup time.

He gets all his news from Twitter.

Jeremy Corbyn actually held a rally today and a whole 200 people showed up! The enthusiasm is there. vote Labour

I mean more like Liverpool. Momentum retards like to talk places like that up because Labour keeps a large vote share there even with Dear Leader, but the reality is they don't matter when it comes to swing seats.

Can the autistic lib demfag please go away?

Even his membership would remove him if he did that

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Which one?

I'd just stop. He'll ignore most of your points and just repeat a wall of text that basically boils down to LIB DEM SURGE

youtube.com/watch?v=QY8MxR1yRnE
who /kinnock/ here?

>tfw no matter how often you watch this, you can't shake the feeling that THIS TIME john major will lose.

The one who keeps posting walls of text about what boils down to MUH IMAGINED LIB DEM SURGE THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET SO WHY WOULD IT HAPPEN BY JUNE!

So what are we doing if the Labour canvasers visit lads?

I'd say he sounds more like a Momentum nutter than a Lib Dem nutter.

Just say "Jeremy Corbyn" and shut the door.

you guys ever been paranoid when you LARP on here? sometimes i am lol

Had me loling and checked!

what do you mean?

She really needs to learn manners and keep her mouth closed.

>What would your reaction be to this happening?

I dunno, but even the thought of it made me kek

In this glorious Labour-SNP-LD-PC-SDLP-Green alliance, here is th cabinet

PM: Jeremy Corbyn
Chancellor: John Mcdonnell
Deputy PM: Nicola Sturgeon
Home Secretary: Chukka Umunna
Foreign minister: Diane Abbott
Minister for DWP: Caroline Lucas
Minister for Northern Ireland: Gerry Adams
Minister for health: Alex Salmond
Minister for brexit: Tim Farron
Minister for international trade: Angus Robertson
Minister for university: Nick Clegg
Minister for environment: Johnathan Bartley
Minister for women's health: Liz Kendall
Minister for community cohesion: Clive Lewis

im the guy who had a visit.

"The teens will wake up once they realise what taxes are and lefties will get turned upon when it happens.as people age they change their politcal views because life isnt the same as it once was when they were younger. Once they shoulder responsibility you'd be surprised how red pilling it really is lol. Shocks them into reality.
And it REALLY is going to be dark when it happens because the media will be spinning lies for the government unless they aint bought off or threatened. It seems bad because the right wing is taboo for now, once the centrists and people who are politically apathetic start getting angry the left will get shrank into a non-issue.

Don't despair, Stay strong, For Britain"

That was my post in terms to someone asking how bad it could get.

Somtimes i feel like ill get a visit off the police again. Y'know BigBrother and shit (not the show)

Ask what his policy on defence is. Canvassers can get smug on immigration and taxes but not defence. To this day I'm still not entirely sure what he wants

Well I do kinda understand he wants to strip it back even more. A true working class vote winner that one.

>Minister for university: Nick Clegg

June 9th best day of my life remove labour REMOVE LABOUR

>mfw when I actually remember watching this live.

Any time people like that visit I just pretend they have my vote.

Sorry im getting tired now. i mean it in a context that they could be watching people on here and take it out of context when they LARP.

>getting dragged off by the police
>perfect opurtinuty
>MUH JEWS MUH MOSLEY
>"sir can you explain these posts"
>"Gas the jews lel"

that sorta shit

You forgot Minister for Whitevans: Emily Thornberry

A visit from who? I don't know what you're talking about.

Post yfw the exit polls show a Labour landslide

Hello Grandad

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What did you think was going to happen at the time? What outcome were you hoping for?
It's probably still the most interesting/pivotal election in British history.

I don't think Julian will stand in the election after all. Mi5 have got to him.

Shit out of cash lads getting a job while at uni. Unis going fine so I think I can get away with it. Anyway live in a big city so narrowed down my job choices and finished my CV, gonna start applying tomorrow.

Job suggestions? Was thinking...

Bar Staff- Easy, meet people, not done it before but claimed I have
Care worker- Lots of 1 on 1 oppurtunities with good hours and great pay. Done it before and not too bad, bit boring though
Weekend office monkey- Got a couple options here. Definitely the comfiest but boring as fuck, decent pay

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The police. already had a visit from them because of a facebook post.
Political dissent is more what im alerting to though, and the concept that if shit starts getting unrestful in the country then they could start cracking down on people through surveillance that we already have in place

Happened in scotland, Happened in Germany so dont put it past England.

>having normiebook
There's your problem

Bar work, I worked in a pub that was more of a locals haunt than full of students. It was good fun apart from the long hours and getting home after midnight.

Fuck care work thats for foreigners and thick teenage girls.

Don't know why i did it in the end (should of known better than to do that but sometimes u get too angry). funny part is i think it was reported by someone in my friends list....

what did you say? You sound a bit mental

I thought there would be a Labour win after 13 years of Tory rule. I was a bit more left of centre in those days, but we're talking a different left and different days.

>Discussing politics on normie book and expecting normies to act rationally when their fee fees get hurt because they don't agree with you

You should have known better lad

I live in Blackpool, and it was simply "What kind of police force/Goverment is worth any support from the people when it cannot protect its own children, its a fucking disgrace and im surpised there hasn't been violence from it"

Cautioned me with "Speak likely to breach the peace" and explained it to me in a nice term that "If people take action because of what ive said i could do time"

Nice to get a visit from the police personally over this (I have family in Rotherham and if it happend to any of them i would of gone down and started slicing) Whats even better is i SUSPECT it got reported by people and that's how i was found out.

Im very nationalistic in the terms of the british people. In hinesight i should of known better cos i knew at the time we are in a police state. but sometimes i get too angry.

Pic related is one of my fears for the future of my kids.

Can you hear the sound? The sound of drums and fire and flame? The red rose is coming. Surrender now while you have the chance.

economist.com/news/leaders/21721140-theresa-may-hopes-landslide-victory-why-election-offers-chance-better-brexit?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/britaingoestothepollswhyanelectionoffersthechanceofabetterbrexit

JUST

Waste of police time desu.

>If the polls are correct, she will have enough MPs to push through unpopular but necessary solutions to problems such as the housing shortage
She's going to boil the poor in a giant cauldron?

Here's the full list by constituency and majority:
Conservative:

Bedford, 2.38 per cent
Bolton West, 1.65 per cent
Brighton, Kemptown, 1.52 per cent
Bury North, 0.84 per cent
Cardiff North, 4.18 per cent
Corby, 4.29 per cent
Croydon Central, 0.31 per cent
Derby North, 0.09 per cent
Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale, 1.53 per cent
Eastbourne, 1.39 per cent
Gower, 0.06 per cent
Kingston and Surbiton, 4.78 per cent
Lewes, 2.14 per cent
Lincoln, 3.08 per cent
Morley and Outwood, 0.87 per cent
Peterborough, 4.09 per cent
Plymouth, Moor View, 2.41 per cent
Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport, 1.09 per cent
Telford, 1.8 per cent
Thornbury and Yate, 3.08 per cent
Thurrock, 1.08 per cent
Twickenham, 3.25 per cent
Vale of Clwyd, 0.67 per cent
Warrington South, 4.63 per cent
Waveney, 4.61 per cent
Weaver Vale, 1.72 per cent

Tory marginals

why is neet hours so quiet now? where my losers at

>economist.com/news/leaders/21721140-theresa-may-hopes-landslide-victory-why-election-offers-chance-better-brexit?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/britaingoestothepollswhyanelectionoffersthechanceofabetterbrexit

So the chances of the Tories losing seats isn't so slim from a historical perspective.

>Just like BERNIE CAN STILL WIN!!! in the US?
No, like Trump supporters mate.

>Momentum is an incredibly vocal minority of a million or two voters at most, nearly all of whom were labour voters already.
Mate it's not just Momentum for fuck's sake. What about some 50 year old woman in Liverpool, works as a nurse or a carer, who voted to Leave. Hates foreigners, but cares about the NHS and schools getting funded. Hates Tory posh twats with a passion. There's lots of people like that. LOTS of people like that.

>lol
Yeah that's what they said about Trump winning too, you daft twat.

>NE somerset is deep blue
Yet they voted Remain, go figure.

Fucking kek.

That's another thing that is going to punish her. Pussying out on debates. Of course she has everything to lose by taking part in them. This is why calling the election was a terrible idea. She looks bad whether she takes part in them or avoids them.

Could get well more than that mate. The Tories literally only need to lose five seats to lose their current majority. All I know is that complacency is the death knell of politicians and the Tories really need to fight for this election if they want that majority. It's not going to simply drop on their laps, and if they think it is, they will LOSE.

And they're going to gain much more. Look at pic related, already overtaken UKIP. People like Gina Miller are going to rally people to vote Lib Dem to stop a hard Brexit.

>You're making entirely unfounded leaps of logic.
No I'm not, because 48% of the electorate - 16 million people - voted to Remain, and those people are still in the electorate, they haven't vanished. To assume that they have all given up - THAT IS AN ENTIRELY UNFOUNDED LEAP OF LOGIC.

Not to mention that opinion polls change during campaigns. Cleggmania wasn't a thing when that campaign started - it developed over time. The electorate can shift in big ways during campaigns.

My wife thinks im looking at porn. Going to bed in a min mate

>"Are you on "4Chaaan" again"
>"No im watching porn!, Promise!"

no all jokes aside she doesnt know about you guise

I cannot understand this feel

Reckon they'll keep most of these desu. Maybe lose Lewes and Thornberry+Yate back to lib dems.
More interested in the labour marginals

The amount of Family and Friend fights this causes.
>Fucking KIKEBOOK indeed.

>tfw from Liverpool, live in Liverpool and are right wing
I'm even from a shithole part

It's a difficult feel

>Bobhoskinsgoingmentalinadustbin mental?

Same feeling from blackpool bud, I can't throw up enough because of all the "Vote Labour" signs that are going to go up

Fucking KEK.
>After she sells the boiled down gluttonous goo

I don't know

Liverpool is nice enough in places and much better than Manchester

Here you are:

Labour:

Bridgend, 4.88 per cent
Dewsbury, 2.71 per cent
Enfield North, 2.35 per cent
Harrow West, 4.74 per cent
Hove, 2.37 per cent
Lancaster and Fleetwood, 3.03 per cent
Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland, 4.97 per cent
North East Derbyshire, 3.93 per cent

Liberal Democrat:

Carshalton and Wallington, 3.17 per cent
Orkney and Shetland, 3.59 per cent
Richmond Park (Byelection), 4.53 per cent
Sheffield, Hallam, 4.24 per cent
Southport, 3 per cent

SNP:

Berwickshire, RoxBorough and Selkirk, 0.6 per cent
East Dunbartonshire, 3.95 per cent

Same, I live in a fucking 95% white city and yet it seems like any other mixed shithole because of the lower class whites that populate it
It annoys the fuck out of me that I can go the city centre and not see niggers or pakis but still see their fucking behaviours, at least most of the darkies are confined to Toxteth

You have a wife?
Why are you on here with us Autistics and the younger Virgin Hermits?

THE RESULTS ARE IN

Imagine doing this at 3 am

>when you slowly reveal your crippling addiction to Sup Forums to your girlfriend and explain and now whenever you make fun of her for watching shitty youtube videos she makes fun of you for memes and weebshit

Yeah but thanks for not buying the sun.

Also as a Manc, I have to:

>What about some 50 year old woman in Liverpool, works as a nurse or a carer, who voted to Leave. Hates foreigners, but cares about the NHS and schools getting funded. Hates Tory posh twats with a passion. There's lots of people like that. LOTS of people like that.
>liverpool
Her vote is fucking worthless then, all of Liverpool is 60%+ labour anyway.

>>NE somerset is deep blue
>Yet they voted Remain, go figure.
Because the council area used in the referendum count includes the city of bath and NE somerset. Which is two constituencies, Bath the city, and the rest of NE somerset.
Bath is where the remainers are and so bath will go back to the lib dems (they had a lib dem MP until 2015).
Mogg's seat is the rural half of the population who are more likely to have voted leave and so he won't lose.

>The Tories literally only need to lose five seats to lose their current majority
And they're gonna take about 30 from Labour if they have a bad time of it. Labour have shit the bed so the lib dems stealing 10 seats from the tories is irrelevent to them having a majority.

>And they're going to gain much more
Unfounded. If they've not jumped from tories to lib dems already with how May has been for months, why would they suddenly swap now? Labour voters switching does basically nothing as it just mean lefty vote splitting which ultimately helps the tories overall.

Will you also fucking answer my point about UKIP VOTERS GOING BACK TO THE TORIES.
That's at least a million "free" tory voters right there.

Only in the parts of it that aren't really Liverpool but are instead 'Merseyside'

here in london
no sign of anything
no one gives a fuck
maybe the ballots are stuffed here anyway

My advice then is to:
>Keep away from the guy with the funny eye

youtu.be/w9quauTf7fY

Many Remainers are shy right now because they lost the referendum - we see the vocal minority on the TV, shouting on the streets, but there are lots of moderates out in middle England who supported Remain. And who might be pretty worried by a hard Brexit. Guess what, not everyone in the country is far-right like Sup Forums, so they don't all love a "red white and blue" Brexit as much as Sup Forums does.

You're a good lad. It's a shame there are so many people here who are unwilling to face uncomfortable facts - something which is necessary if you want to win an election.

I'm not convinced they ALL will. Some will. But a lot of them are working class Labour voters. You do know how strong the anti-Tory sentiment is in some parts, right?

Just look at this. This is why I don't like complacency. Because it's a political suicide note, that's why: They think people decide on who to vote for based on who's doing well at the bookies? These are levels of delusion that I never thought possible.

>leicester won't win the league!
>trump won't be president!
I don't care what your opinion is lad, because I don't agree with it

>i have no arguments so i have to respond with ad hominem
People as dense as you really amuse me

I mean REALLY amuse me

I could just eat some popcorn and watch this all day

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seriously where did all the NEET virgins go? married people on brit/pol/ at 3am. I don't like it

Blackpool is an area that could conceivably go tory m8

u wot mate?

It's the place i can be my autistic self. I was originally attracted because my humour is very Anti-PC, the rest is history. Pic related
Scrubbing my net history everyday, i dont wanna give her that kinda bants ammo.

>she hasn't found my shitpost folder ive hid in system32

Do you mean buy The S*n or post the webm

I'm not a Liverpool FC fan, Jesus that'd be degenerate

I'm an Evertonian

Where the fuck is Rimjob?

Once I get comfortable around a girl, I regularly read posts from you guys to them. On dates I'll say I like talking about politics online.

Never mention Sup Forums or Sup Forums by name

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the neet virgins are all down the local thai massage place getting a rub n tug

Friendly reminder that Theresa May is responsible for the snoopers charter and did nothing to stop the new laws (((protecting))) against the criticism of jews and the holocaust.

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Even for him that's embarrassing

The leader of one of the 2 major parties should never be third in a poll like that

He went to sleep hours ago.
Something is missing. This place just doesn't feel right. Maybe it's me who should leave.

Fuck forgot to adress this dumbassery
>To assume that they have all given up
Except I'm not. Half of them were reluctant remain voters with little to actually give up on. A large section of my family are in this category and just want brexit to happen now.
So only 24% or so wants to desperately remain at most. Most of these already voted Green/Labour/Lib Dem anyway, so they are irrelevent too.
At worst the tories will lose a few percentage points of their voters to the lib dems over brexit. Which will more than be replaced by UKIP voters coming back to them, should be a 4-6% boost.
Overall Tory win with a 30-100 seat majority depending on exact figures