Can I be atheist and right wing?
Can I refuse to believe in a god and still support values and concepts like family and honor and specially reject degeneracy?
I've seen that nowadays most atheist are either leftcucks or reject traditional values, they also love islam and things like homosexuality.
Honestly, what gives?
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just wondering, why do you refuse to believe in a god?
Yes.
t. Conservative Atheist
I'm agnostic. Even though I'm not part of any big religion I'm still spiritual. I'm a dirty hippy desu.
Morals and societal order are not tied to delusions.
So yes, easily.
>I've seen that nowadays most atheist are either leftcucks or reject traditional values, they also love islam and things like homosexuality.
More like, most religioncucks now are atheists and pay only lip service to their religion. There is a reason why all those churches are empty.
I'm an apatheist and a NatSoc.
Hitchens.
Live for him.
The whole point of religion in the first place was to get people to behave. People will get intimidated by the idea of a god watching over them, ready to throw them into hellfire if they are degenerate. It helped keep the hedonists under control.
yeah but don't tell the people at church and just enjoy jesus
>Can I refuse to believe in a god and still support values and concepts like family and honor and specially reject degeneracy?
that is an oxymoron.. those things can be considered god as god is the story of man prefacing genesis
>Can I be atheist and right wing?
No. Atheism is a leftist tool.
Not usually.
t. statistics
Atheist have a worse voting record than kikes.
Why not just teach kids philosophy instead? Kids hate church anyways.
Mods are faggots! Ban me!
Yes
>news articles that trump is least God fearing president ever and how this is "good"
>DAAA CAN I BE A RIGHTARD AND ALSO A HETEROTHEIST?
If you need to ask then you're already a libcuck.
It's not an oxymoron dumbass Christian.
Intersectional Feminism is a mind virus that infects everything it touches and destroys it. It infected atheism a while ago back when the christianity was trying to teach evolution in schools and in split the community into the pro-feminism group and the anti-feminism group. The anti-feminist people are the same people who you think are right-wingers complaining about feminism, islam, and other shit, but they are just liberals who didn't jump on the feminism train
Yes you can.
I'm right wing, and I'm an atheist. True, more atheists probably support the degenerates, but there are some that are okay.
You bet.
just say you believe in traditional values no one will suspect a thing
Yes, I am one of them but Canadian Atheists in Canada are mostly conservative too unlike America which are liberals and fedora retards, a real shame to he name
"Cultural Christian" here.
Ofc.
I think I'm agnostic. I believe probably there is no God but I do go to church services and get a sort of serenity from it. When I pray it helps me relieves anxiety and clears my thoughts.
It could very well be mental manipulation but experiences like that make me take the position of "who cares if this god is real or not, a Christian life is the best life."
i'd like to point out your previous post:
my post you're attacking is to do with philosophy, and theology. why are you so fucking stupid and contradictory? all the while you attack my faith, of which you can't even begin to comprehend (as made obvious by you) ,because you have a the hubris of a retard?
that mind be changing though now that being right-wing is cool again
I'm attacking you because you're being a bigot thinking no one can change or be a certain kind of person going against the narrative.
Also is that a.... male by birth?
I can't imagine how the hell any man could ever be so scrawny.
I'm sure he's a regular drug user.
I refuse because it is mysticism. It doesn't rely on rational or empirical reasoning. It relies solely on faith.
This. Religion is to control the masses
>Can I be atheist and right wing?
I'm living proof of this.
Anything is possible on the right.
Not so much one the left.
huh? to be "right wing" is to be fundamentally in favor of values that come from religion, and to believe in them and their purpose is to believe in god
genesis is mostly composed of parables, and any kind of basic philosophical thought that comes from learning christian theology would make you think that the prelude to the bible is the story of man and that man, as god, created the disciplines that are now revered by the "right wing"
Yes. Religion can help lead people to traditional values, but it's not a necessity. Many religious people are staunch leftists in my friend circle.
I am not going to deny the historical significance of religious organizations who were a backup plan for whenever their governments could not competently support their people.
>those things can be considered god as god is the story of man prefacing genesis
That sentence is completely nonsensical.
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fag
Jesus fucking christ.
>Most love islam
When will this meme end.
Why the fuck do people simultaneously think Atheists "hate" Christianity and yet love Islam. Either they don't mind both or they hate both. Its very very rarely a double standard.
I fucking loath Islam and like Christianity but I'm a center-left atheist.
And anyways, asking permission to believe something is fucking cuckoldry of the highest order.
Sure they can come from religion but that doesn't mean everyone has to believe in the religion itself. They just have to have the same values.
Do whatever the fuck you want, but for the love of Hitchens stop seeking approval of others and live your own damned life.
I'm an atheist and I don't give a fuck about labels. Stop being such a fucking limp wristed faggot.
FUCK.
those values represent god. you can believe in god in more ways than you're implying. one way to believe in god is to represent the concept of him through the values he teaches. that is my argument
look at liberal athiests like Sam Harris. These people don't "love Islam". That's ridiculous. And if they "love things like homosexuality", it's because they're saying that homosexuals should be protected from religious extremists (like Muslims obviously)
OP is retarded
I don't believe in any deity because there is no good evidence to support the existence of any deity.
Also because I know a great deal about science.
In your mind they represent God. If you believe only in the morals the bible teaches, you're not a Christian. You have to have faith and throw all rationality out the window.
Also why are you fishing for approval in a Sup Forums board that often hold atheists in contempt?
>"right wing" is to be fundamentally in favor of values that come from religion
You completely failed to name one.
>bible
The Constitution is not in the Bible. The Bill of Rights directly contradicts the Ten Commandments.
yes you are correct but we were only talking about morals, of which represent god. you say "in my mind" they do, so why do you think they don't?
You can believe whatever the fuck you want. Stop looking for public approval, lemming.
>You completely failed to name one.
huh you mean like family values and moral teachings? do i have to tell you that the "right wing" hates fags out of religious principle?
They don't because some Atheists can have the same morals as Christians. The two are not one body.
Mysticism? That's a simple argument for a complicated philosophical/theological issue
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Sure, as long as you aren't /r/atheism level stupid
Yes.
Jon Bowden, Richard Spencer, Mike Enoch, Sven, Reactionary Tree, Alex McNabb, George Lincoln Rockwell, Nick Land, Mencius Moldbug, etc: all atheists.
That's why neoreactionaries use GNON, or God of Nature Or Nature. There are forces that are pulling the universe and its components in certain ways, and the Left likes to go against that order.
I don't believe in the supernatural.
Yep. But only if you are Male, and White or Asian. Almost all of the young men here in Westmoreland County PA are Athiests and we were the 2nd largest county that went for trump.
i consider all morals to be godly. where else would they come from other than the bible? to be atheist is to have a seared conscience, and to be atheist with religious morals is to have the contrary, therefore i think atheists with the same morals as christians are not atheists
What's funny is that you don't realize Rockwell hated close-minded Jesus-loving Israel-cocksucking Cuckservatives as well.
>Its very very rarely a double standard.
It's not that rare among the Millennial Left.
Hitchens and Harris are rare among Atheists, in they are considered "New Atheists" and near Fascistic by the Social Justice faction.
You don't have to be religious but traditional values share their roots with traditional christian ones. That being said, there are plenty of churches in the bay area that preach left wing ideology by cherry picking what verses they like and what they don't on no theological basis outside of muh feelings so religiousness doesn't always correlate with political beliefs
there's nothing supernatural about theological teachings. the bible is one of the greatest most important books ever written
It doesn't matter where they came from. They are separate bodies.
>i think atheists with the same morals as christians are not atheists
What are they called then?
God is dead. Here is the proof. I'm sorry.
>huh you mean like family values and moral teachings?
No. The Bible is a horrible teacher for family values and morals. Lot fucked his daughters. That's after he told a mob to gang rape them. And he was suppose to be the good guy.
Yes.
harry potter is better imo
>They are separate bodies.
how bitch?
>What are they called then?
perhaps they are theologians and don't know it, and as a result they believe in god without knowing it. to accept the teachings of the divine is to accept the name of the holy spirit, one of the most godly things you can do
all truth is irreducibly subjective, so you can require a rational explanation to believe in something, but you can't deny that it is all filtered through consciousness. understanding that consciousness IS god himself is the end of deliberation and the beginning of eternal peace
>where else would they come from other than the bible?
Evolution. Moral behavior in animals.
youtube.com/watch?v=GcJxRqTs5nk
harry potter is the bible for retards
>Evolution. Moral behavior in animals.
that's an easy conclusion to make about intelligent animals we can't read the minds of
I'm an Atheist and still want a Crusade and Christians to retake Constantinople and Baldwin's Holy Kingdom.
Depends. Do you recognize the role the church plays as one of the pillars of society?
Plenty of people have been atheists across history, but reasonable conservative people usually recognize that without the family, the church and the rule of law society crumbles.
So if USA is 90% Christian and democrats thrive, then logic should tell you something. Maybe ask yourself why you behead people and have highest crime in Latin America when you have combined Christianity of over 95%. Most prisoners are Christian.
>there's nothing supernatural about theological
So called "theology" is bullshit. Theologists are self proclaimed experts jerking each other off.
>bible is one of the greatest most important books ever written
99% of christians have never even read it.
You are christian kike lover you have rott en my country
>how bitch?
First of all, how unchristian like of you.
Morality and spirituality are two different things. One is completely based on faith and the other is being a good person who knows right from wrong.
> they believe in god without knowing it
I don't know if there is a God or not. There is no scientific way to prove it. That is why I do not identify as a Christian. However I still have morals that align with a Christian.
Sure, I've always believed you have to be a huge fucking retard to be an atheist but as long as you aren't a complete degenerate and support good old wholesome christian values then you will be spared the rope
How the fuck do you even manage to have twig arms like that?
>theologists are just jerking each other off
Read some st. august, you'll see differently.
>99% of christians have never read the bible
Are you quite sure about that? Its the most read book on the planet, by a massive margin. I'm an atheist, and i go to bible studies classes in the university every sunday.
its because most retards are christian cause they are not fit for makign their own personal beliefs and take anything society throws on them
if atheism was the historical religious norm like in east asian religions most prisoners would be atheists
besides, latin america is hardly the case to be made since religiousness there is rapidly falling and atheism and sects are on the rise
Why would you ever want to go there out of your own free will?
>ifunny
>implying Hitler is a Christian
Can only be bait attempt.
>So called "theology" is bullshit. Theologists are self proclaimed experts jerking each other off.
is that your argument? that an entire school of study, of which had significant historical impact, is "bullshit"? yeah man it's just a bunch of kids reading wikipedia and enlightening themselves while jerking off.. or maybe that's atheism? where's the atheism schools? the great renaissance inspired by the flying spaghetti monster?
>99% of christians have never even read it.
not gonna argue fake stats and stupid generalizations
>Theologists are self proclaimed experts jerking each other off.
unlike philosophers and scientist today
lol
nice logic, why am i not surprised to see that flag
Dude I'm the same way. I see no evidence for any particular God's existence. However, most atheists are hardcore lefties and our numbers aren't growing. Religion is innate to human nature it seems. So long as the Christians don't fuck with me, I don't care and I'd rather have the christfags around than leftist lunatics.
>easy conclusion
Easy because it's true.
>we can't read the minds of
You don't need to. Just look at their actions. The same with animals that win elections and get in office. This is Sup Forums, why do I have to explain the obvious to you? Actions speak louder than words.
Do you think of yourself as a God?
Are you younger than 30?
This sounds like some young adult thinking.
You don't need to believe in a dead kike on a stick to believe that the left is a bunch of retards and that the right is the sensible option. If anything, religion meddles with right ideology because people are moving to the right for how more logical and reasoning it is than the emotionally driven left and you guys start shoving your "muh invisible sky man" stupidities everywhere.
Omg drumpf such a liar
>the one guardian source quoted
theguardian.com
>more likely, it seems, to throw a tantrum than actually sing
The article was literally a disparage of Pavarotti with 1 singular line on Trump
Rolls flip (in 10 years) when you're on the Left, eh bois!
>First of all, how unchristian like of you.
nice argument bitch. hot off the presses from the hamster wheel brain school of thought of which you graduated from top of the class
>One is completely based on faith and the other is being a good person who knows right from wrong.
and my argument (if you were paying attention) was that the prelude to the bible is the story of man as man was made in the image of god. see the connection?
>However I still have morals that align with a Christian.
so you're a christian. this isn't islam where one sect goes to war with the other. just say you're a christian, it isn't embarrassing
>Can I be atheist and right wing?
Sure. If you're and atheist, and not an (((((atheist))))), i.e. a Christ-hating kike.
I'm now in my 30's. I have quite a few friends that love the guidelines taught in the Bible even though they are non believers. You can be a foolish atheist and still recognize the proper roles as defined by our creator.
>Read some
No. If you have something important to say, then say it here and now. Impress us.
>Are you quite sure about that? Its the most read book on the planet
Yes. It is the most owned book on the planet. Least read.
>Just look at their actions.
just look at your actions for example. instead of trying to understand why smoke is coming out of your ears i'm just going to watch you post retard shit and conclude you're a retard. it's that easy huh? maybe the retard is right
Hivemind.
You should.
People who need cute sky daddy stories in order to be good and to have good morals are just opportunistic rats going for the highest offer. The true redpill is realizing the value of said things when you have no reward for imposing on yourself such duties.
>No. If you have something important to say, then say it here and now. Impress us.
you have to find your own path. nobody will do it for you