The Holocaust. I have to believe in the Holocaust. I've never checked any sources, but there's something about it I cant wrap my head around.
When the mongols needed to exterminate people, they'd dole out quotas for each soldier to execute. If the official story is that after he realized he was going to lose the war, why would Hitler take precious man power away from the ostfront to kill workers? It makes no sense.
That being said, I must believe the Holocaust because if I don't my friends and family will hate me. What's the truth? I'll take any hard info you guys have.
census figures, for jews in europe, before and after ww2. Either a shit ton of shagging, or no holocaust
Luke Carter
lurk moar faggotstein
Hunter Brown
Isnt it possible those census figures were in some way inaccurate since they were taken by different statitions
Benjamin Hernandez
I have, and all I hear is >muh goys >fuck kikes lol nigger haha >what's antifa up to???
Ethan Brown
6 millions inaccurate? sure. its a posibility
Jace Thompson
The truth is most likely in the middle, Jews were rounded up, some were killed, but not anywhere near the claim of six gorillion. I highly doubt more that 300,000 Jews got shoaed.
Joshua Smith
Implying you've ever had a racist thought in your life implying you aren't an electionfag
What if you just didn't tell your friends and family that you don't believe in the Holocaust? Seems pretty simple to me.
Kayden Turner
Yes, goyim, trust those census figures despite our own admission that they're nothing more than ((("""estimations""")))
Chase Diaz
about 18 million jews died.
6 million only registered.
Carter Peterson
It happened and the numbers are probably correct. But only because it happened to a minority with lots of influence in the US was it blown out of proportion. Look at all the other genocides with similar kill count. Nobody cares. It is just a statistic.
Jace Reed
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Jose Thomas
The Holocaust definitely, absolutely happened. There is solid evidence that people absolutely died in those camps. But the amount of people who dies has been exaggerated. The Holocaust was real, but not near the scale that's been spread around.
but there were only 3 million Jews in the whole of Europe back then
Ian Reyes
Holocaust denial is about as stupid as the official holocaust story.
After a lot of reading, I feel like the number of Jews killed was far less, but the atrocity was much worse. It wasn't a streamlined and well oiled machine involving gas chambers and holocoasters, it was people stepping over dead bodies and dying of sickness arising from the dead being so close to food and water supplies.
Imagine if we just started tossing Italians in gulags to deal with the mafia. You could raise the specter of abuse and bigotry any time you get called out for doing mafia shit out in the open from then on. Really makes you think.
Noah Reyes
Can't view the (((BBC))) for some reason
Isaiah Thomas
>Name a more iconic duo.
Here ya go.
Adam Nguyen
Truth is that most people died of typhus and starvation including prisoners of war and even Germans. Theee simply was not enough food at the end of the war. The ovens existed for cremation of people who died from disease as cremation is best way to avoid spread of disease.
Adam Gomez
That's the way I see it. I don't let it bother me because I know the real numbers will inevitably start being figured out once everyone from that era is dead and the emotional impact of WW2 fades. Hell, its already happening now.
Nicholas Russell
Not very hard to believe in it, if the village where your grandpa is from had a huge jewish population and after ww2 had zero jewish population.
John Collins
>I've never checked any sources It's a Sup Forumsretard knows nothing about the holocaust in the first place but already doubts it because he heard a few of his internet naziboo fellow anons say it was all faked and make "oy vey goyim" merchant memes episode.
Hitler never realised he was going to lose until the very end. He recognised that he was losing and that the war was not going well, but he always had the delusion that his nation would pull through and win eventually. In the meantime, he used the failing and brutal war effort as both revenge against the Jews and a smokescreen for murdering the Jewish and Slavic populations to make way for eventual German settlement and lebensraum.
Nolan Fisher
Honest truthful answer The Holocaust did happen but it was greatly exagerated, especially the gas thing for victimization purposes Anyone denying the Holocaust completely are ignoring the deep hatred Nazis had for Jews that was clearly shown in the Cristal Night
Eli Hall
I just assume the Nazis treated the Jews as bad as they treated the Slavs (which was pretty bad). But where did 6 million come from? How do I go about questioning the number without sounding like a monster? Do I just say prove it??
Isaiah Hill
>muh 6 gorillion It never happened. They just died cause there was nothing to feed an army of slaves.
Luke Edwards
You don't say anything you stupid leaf nigger Do you want your academic life destroyed? Do you want to never find a job? Are you gonna throw your life way for something you can't ever change people's opinions on?
Jose Martinez
>Hitler never realised he'd lose the war Okay, assuming that's true,why did he take untold manpower away from the already losing war to kill prisoners
Jayden Powell
Imprisoning people and failing to feed them is still Holocaust.
Luis Wood
>more iconic duo
Chase Turner
Yeah, you're right... I suggest it to my girlfriend and she gives me a disgusted look. Even just mentioning the idea is revolting to people.
Tyler Mitchell
Get out of this thread, oven dodger
John Hughes
You are fucking crazy Redpilling people starts gradually It's like a tree, it takes a long time to grow Start with firearm ownership Jews are the last level of redpilling. If you keep saying extreme things like this she will leave you.
Lucas Barnes
Of course the holocaust happened. But how many were murdered in a "systematic" attempt at industrial genocide, how many were killed in combat operations, and how many died of diseases like typhus while interred in the camps? Figures range from 2-12 million. That's a pretty incredible range.
Also, there were several other peoples who were ravaged by war and atrocity in the era of '14-'45. The Greeks, Armenians, Ukrainians. Why does the holocaust command so much attention in academia and the media? It seems like only recently with the 100th anniversary has the Armenian genocide gotten much attention and I was personally surprised when Hollywood made a film about Holomodor.
Grayson Lewis
There weren't even 6 million Jews in Germany
Nicholas Ward
There weren't even 6mil Jews in Germany
Jace Wood
it literally doesn't matter because at the end of the day the kikes deserve to be gassed
Parker Brown
Honestly I've said some pretty redpilled shit and shes still around. I just don't see the point. Why don't we all just live with the 6 million figure? Does it change anything?
Leo Price
Whether or not the Holocaust happened is irrelevant. The real question is did they deserve it? Answer: Yes.
All of the theory that decent people identify as problematic originates with known Jewish individuals, and has become widespread due to Jewish funding and activism. There would be no Marxism or its Bolshevik offshoots, no cultural Marxism or critical theory, and none of the degenerate, anti-white ideas that ooze from our academic institutions, bureaucracies and media were it not for the Jewish element in our society.
The only thing that keeps any rational person from identifying Jewish influence as a—if not the—principal source of discord and trauma in the West is terror of being labeled an “anti-Semite” or a “neo-Nazi.” If one overcomes cultural taboos and coolly considers the nature and effect of Jewish presence in the United States, Europe and beyond, only one conclusion is possible.
Were it not for Jewish presence, the West, and indeed the world, would be much stabler, and very likely much happier.
Dylan King
>why did he take untold manpower away from the already losing war to kill prisoners Because he wanted to clean his future lands in the east of all untermensch and make them Judenfrei so that Germans could take their place, and wanted to do this during the war because there was no other time to do it.
>"With respect of the Jewish Question, the Führer has decided to make a clean sweep. He prophesied to the Jews that if they again brought about a world war, they would see their annihilation in it. That wasn't just a catch-word. The world war is here and the annihilation of the Jews must be the necessary consequence...On the Jewish question especially, we are in it so deeply that there is no getting out any longer. And that is a good thing. Experience teaches that a movement and a people who have burned their bridges fight with much greater determination and fewer constraints than those that have a chance of retreat." - Joseph Goebbels diary, 13th December 1941 - March 1943
>"Today I am going to refer quite frankly to a very grave chapter. We can mention it now among ourselves quite openly and yet we shall never talk about it in public. I'm referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. Most of you will know what it's like to see 100 corpses side by side or 500 corpses or 1,000 of them. To have coped with this and—except for cases of human weakness—to have remained decent, that has made us tough. This is an unwritten—never to be written—and yet glorious page in our history." - Himmler, October 4th 1943.
Owen Cox
Survivor here. I was lucky enough to push open the french doors and not get gassed half a dozen times
The amount of fuel needed to burn the bodies was impossible to get. Germany was in a fuel shortage.
Biggest: EVERY "death camp" was behind the Iron Curtain where Western powers couldn't investigate. Every single "death camp" on our side of the Iron Curtian was a concentration camp used for labor but trust me Goyim they totally were all death camps (yes, 100%) behind the Iron Curtain where you can't investigate for 40 years.
The Holocaust happened, it was about labor camps, it was racially motivated, many did die when the supply lines were bombed, soldiers took priority over prisoners, the count was around 300,000.
Evan Richardson
My belief is that the Holocaust happened but the number of (((victims))) is extremely exaggerated.
David Rodriguez
Yeah, yeah, germans took jews and sent them to israel(which didn't exist at that time) and US.
David Sullivan
You mean genocide? Still no, they weren't starved to death on purpose, it just happened as an unfortunate outcome of war.
Nathan Rivera
>why would Hitler take precious man power away from the ostfront to kill workers?
In every army there are people who are qualified to be in an army but not qualified for combat.
My dad was in the army during Vietnam but not assigned to combat because he was deaf in one ear. He was assigned to engineer corps instead.
Hitler may have had those people running the gas chambers while combat-approved soldiers fought on the front.
Carter Hall
Holocaust happened. 6 million jews killed. Denial is usually a combo of "it wasn't planned", "they weren't gassed/burned" and "less than 6 million died". Deniers use bad info or misinterpret things like >only 500,000 jews in germany true but doesn't matter because Nazis swarmed over all of europe. >death camps behind iron curtain makes sense for a jewocaust because that's where most european jews lived. They weren't all gassed, weren't all burned. Lots were used as slaves and starved or died of disease. Revisionism is okay but there's a lot of retard-tier denialism around here.
Carter Edwards
>INB4 it's too long to watch, muh attention span!!1
No one gives a fuck about your shitty attention span. WATCH THIS MOVIE.
Skip around and watch 2 minute segments if you can't "into information".
Let your autism shine. Put the fucking vidya down for a few minutes and watch this.
Blake Williams
The number supposedly killed at Majdonek was 2 million. Today, thanks to the work of revisionists, it is claimed less than 60,000 died at the camp.
That is a huge drop yet "6 million" is still the number everyone believes.
At Auschwitz, the number was originally 4 million. Now they claim 1.5 million died there. That is a drop of 2.5 million, yet the numbr "6 million" is what everyone believes.
If you watch these and STILL believe the Holocaust myth, you may be a Jew.
When mass executions did occur, they did not transport them halfway across Europe to kill them. They would take them out of town and shoot them, or load them in a train and hook the exhaust up the the boxcar and gas them with carbon dioxide and dump them in a mass grave next to the train tracks.
It is insane and not logical to think the NAZIs transported 1.1 million people to central Poland during a war just to kill them, along with fuel to cremate all of them so there where no remains.
But wait! They claim they didn't fully cremate the people. So I am wondering where the pile of 1.1 million peoples bones are?
Aaron Price
see here:
Jose Gray
Wrong. According to the official narrative and supposed "eyewitnesses", there were gas chambers, and they were used to kill millions of people.
No one claims that people were gassed inside boxcars. In some cases "surviviors" claim that people suffocated to death, but they often get their story screwed up because they claim people died in cattle cars. Cattle cars have slats that allow ventilation. It would be pretty hard to die of suffocation in a cattle car.
Landon Wood
The red pill in the red pill is be proud of your people and yourself.
The Holocaust is like a fable and the moral of the story is be a cuck.
Xavier Moore
I find it irritating that it seems that ONLY the Jews suffered during the Holocaust. I'm sure the non-Jewish prisoners don't mind being talked over by Jews.
But what bugs me most is that if the holocaust were irrefutable, then why the need for edited photos?
This It's hard to maintain supply lines if they keep getting bombed by the Allies, not to mention they had to shut out any source of light to avoid being bombed at night. These supplies contained necessary things like food, medicine, tools etc. Think about it for a second. If you were a camp commandant and you had to oversee the welfare and morale of your staff and prisoners whilst maintaining an upkeep with a poor amount of resources available. You have to make very difficult decisions.