Fusion power is the future

Politics will change forever with fusion power. Fusion is like awesome and shit. We need to make it work soon.

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Can someone explain to me how far away are we from seeing functional fusion plants?
I keep hearing the tech is not there.

We've had the capacity to make fusion a reality since the 90's, but heavy pressure from power companies and the middle east has effectively neutered most fusion power programs.

Elon Musk is going to unveil his fusion lab in 2018-2019 and be the first dude to do it. Be the next Thomas Edison.

Doctor Freeman, they're expecting you. In the test chamberrrrr

tech is there, but political reasons make a fusion plant unfeasible. As long as fusion programs are government funded, they will never succeed. Needs to be private enterprise.

Is this Elon's next plan?

youtube.com/watch?v=KkpqA8yG9T4

Inform yourself. Really depends a lot on whether some cool start-up dude (not the marketing idiot Elon Musk) starts coming up with a small production model.

No. he says it's stupid, but that's because it would take away from electric cars and the solar company he owns.

They're not profitable. Thus the govt. had to step in. It was also the gov that kickstarted the whole of nuclear power (FERMILAB) and its science

last I heard was them turning it on for 7 seconds and the input energy is greater than the output.
Is this video a breakthrough from that?

We have fusion working but the problem is all are an energy loss. This means that running them wastes more energy then they produce. The closest one had an energy profit of 90% and this was in the 80s or 90s. The technology has really stalled.

Why do you think World Blocs of Power are moving to kill each other for literally no reason.

Gordon doesn't need to hear all this - he's a highly trained professional.

We've assured the administrator that nothing will go wrong(?)

>last I heard was them turning it on for 7 seconds and the input energy is greater than the output.
>Is this video a breakthrough from that?

No, this is an MIT lecture - it just provides an overview of the current state of research.
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Now MIT scientists have increased the record plasma pressure to more than two atmospheres, a 16% increase on the previous record set in 2005, at a temperature of 35 million C and lasting for two seconds. The breakthrough was presented at the International Atomic Energy Agency’s fusion summit in Japan on Monday.

“This is a remarkable achievement,” said Dale Meade, former deputy director at the Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory. “The record plasma pressure validates the high-magnetic-field approach as an attractive path to practical fusion energy.”

theguardian.com/environment/2016/oct/17/mit-nuclear-fusion-record-marks-latest-step-towards-unlimited-clean-energy

What's the issue with geothermal energy?

Startup is expensive as balls

Needs to be more grounded in reallity.

We already achieved greater output than input.
Just barely though and maximum necessary temperature wasn't achieved. We are getting close though.

LETS GO TO FUCKING SPACE

>grounding a power plant
soiled it

It will never be profitable though.

>What's the issue with geothermal energy?
Earthquakes mostly.

It's a shame but it should work with the new materials that are being researched.

Besides that it's ridiculously simple in principle.

Fusion is a meme. Coal and oil are safer and cheaper than any (((nuclear))) power.

deep subject.

>It will never be profitable though.
Watch the talk. It is good. It shows ways out of the conundrum we are in right now.
youtube.com/watch?v=KkpqA8yG9T4

>Coal and oil are safer and cheaper than any (((nuclear))) power.
Yes and no. Coal is good to generate electricity, but it also fucks up your healthcare costs. Oil is too expensive to use to generate electricity, which is why it is virtually only used in mobile transport devices such as cars.

Fusion makes sense if the fusion reactor is small enough.

c h e c k e d

>Coal and oil are safer
But they are not

Nobody ever got cancer from coal.

first we have to connect our brains to AI.
Thats how were gonna make anime and nintendo real.

before jerking off:
>godam i wanna just ram my dick in her
after jerking off:
>women seem fairly stupid

BRING BACK NIKOLA TESLA

if only burning coal didn't release massive amounts of mercury into the air

>Nobody ever got cancer from coal.
That's actually false, coal dust contains radioactive material.
Also cacner isn't the only cause of death.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#Health_effects
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_the_coal_industry
>According to a report by the World Health Organization in 2008, coal particulates pollution are estimated to shorten approximately 1,000,000 lives annually worldwide.[4] A 2004 study commissioned by environmental groups, but contested by the US EPA, concluded that coal burning costs 24,000 lives a year in the United States.[5]

Fusion will only work with gravity as the source of containment.

>short history of the fusion
>1950: fusion really is 20 years away
>1960: fusion really is 20 years away
>1970: fusion really is 20 years away
>1980: fusion really is 20 years away
>1990: fusion really is 20 years away
>2000: fusion really is 20 years away
>2010: fusion really is 20 years away
>2017: fusion really is 20 years away

Lung cancer

Global cooling.
youtube.com/watch?v=OqsRD4HPtH0

...

what if it explodes and creates a black hole

>shot history of Musk's astronaut carrying space capsule

>2006: we will fly astronauts to space in 2009
>2008: we will fly astronauts to space in 2010
>2011: we will start test flights with astronauts in 2014 if we get 1 billion in US taxpayer money
>2015: we will start astronaut flights next year if we get more NASA taxpayer money
>2017: we will start astronaut test flights next year if we get more US taxpayer money

Fusion is better than Musk's taxpayer funded astronaut capsules

Project ITER in France is getting pretty serious as well

FUSION FTW

What if it doesn't

That documentary it's so old that your flag was still red.

And global cooling doesn't works like that, we'll still have geothermal energy.

youtube.com/watch?v=cfcMGtCAeo8

Yeah he fucked up. Reason for 20 years cycle is that you will retire when promises are not delivered so your credibility doesn't matter anymore. But looks like burgers are stupid enough even for such fraud as Musk.

>fusion generators can melt down
>fusion generators leave behind radioactive spent fuel

>Project ITER in France is getting pretty serious as well
ITER is a political boondoggle. It will not work. It costs 30 billion and is 20 times to big to be economically. It also takes 30 years and is just a science experience.

Or in other words, ITER is the Airbus 380 of fusion... a big, no one needs it, overpriced piece of shit.

Lockheed Martin is apparently working on it at the moment

>fusion
Nice fucking meme. The only future energy source worth mentioning are liquid thorium reactors

Checked, but I'm afraid the Juden will hold back fusion energy as it solves the global energy crisis

>fusion
Nice meme. Liquid thorium reactors are the future

No, they cannot. Christian white engineers are doing their best to make the world based again!

You never lived close to coal power plant, or never worked under....miners dont live very long.

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In order to make a fusion reaction, you have to heat helium atoms as hot as the inside of the sun. Heating takes so much energy it's not going to be profitable with current technology. I would rather say 4th generation nuclear reactors are the future, they use 100-300 times less uranium because you can cycle the fuel.

French are building the ITER reactor whic will be ready in 2025-35 maybe? It can only run for 7 minutes, because the heat of the plasma.

There is a test fusion reactor working, which can run for 5 seconds and make as much energy as the heating needs

Why don't you inform yourself about the topic of the thread before repeating things that are old news... while ignoring new tech which is what the thread is about?

you've just posted a year old youtube video. You have any articles about how fusion reactors can even have a small chance of working in the next 30 years?

Your dreams of a star in a bottle are still very far away.
Unless someone makes some kind of staggering discovery it will also stay that way for a long time.

>You have any articles about how fusion reactors can even have a small chance of working in the next 30 years?
There are tons of articles on advances in fusion power. Just google it yourself.

No one knows whether it takes 10 yrs or 30 yrs until a production ready design... the only clear thing is that ITER is not the way forward.

eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-03/dppl-nfs032017.php

more bread than you could ever want,
advancement

What ever happened to that defence contractor who claimed they cracked fusion? It was someone like Boeing or Lockheed Martin.

There were countless threads about it a few years back.

Thanks to coal you can't eat too much fish because now there's mercury in every fucking body of water.

Fusion power is always 20 years away

HAHAHAHAHA

Scale formation from precipitating minerals acts as an insulator and blocks up the wells...

it wont be a tokomak design either. It may be a stellorator type, although i think it will be a piston type (i.e. non continuous plasma)...

Why don't you start with a fission power first? We have almost infinite supply of nuclear fuel. Fusion shit is a meme and not worth it yet, unless you want to build weapons.

>Thorium nuclear reactor that you can build in yo backyard safe as fuck

youtube.com/watch?v=YVSmf_qmkbg

Coal has limited use, and will not last forever
Oil has complex and quite variable uses, quite useful and often recyable, yet will not last forever.

Nuclear on the otherhand, you can make a salt nuclear reactor with the Thorium in yo back yard

Kek, fusion will never be net positive. Even the sun itself is powered externally with fusion being a side effect.

>Fusion shit is a meme and not worth it yet, unless you want to build weapons.
It is the other way around. Fusion means no nukes, fission means nukes.

Nobody has pointed out the real elephant in the room. Even if they get net positive energy out of any of these, bombardment by neutrons destroys the fuck out of whatever is used as a containment chamber. The destroyed containment chamber is also then radioactive waste. I want fusion to work as much or more than anyone on this board, but I really don't see a commercial operation going even if they can get continuous net energy.

All modern nukes are fusion based. Sure, they use fission charge as a primer, but only because it's simpler than using lasers or explosive flux generator.

>They don't know about ITER

0.5 petrodollars have been added to your account

>All modern nukes are fusion based. Sure, they use fission charge as a primer, but only because it's simpler than using lasers or explosive flux generator.

The point was that fusion power plants help 0 with building nukes, regardless of whether you are talking H-bombs or fission only bombs.

To build nukes, you want fission power plants in order to get plutonium from breeders.

ah yes, the most heavy metal fusion generators of all.

Fusion is the safest, cleanest and most efficient form of energy, once we discover a way to do it in a "constant way". But that would make coal, solar and wind power pretty much obsolete, as well as those greenblob regulations because they won't capitalize more on heavy taxing oil/coal.

All we need are governments that actually want the best for us.

What's it like being so fucking stupid that you don't know the difference between fusion and fission?