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Hey frenchfags

What are the major ideological differences between Hillary Clinton and Macron?

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Wow, really quiet in here

Nobody?

Just wondered what the ideological differences are, I mean they are from different countries so you would think they would be really different, right?

Like.... any major differences in economic policy? Social policy?

Maybe something like: fundamentally different views of the role of the state, or extent of government powers, or spending?

There are none

This board is about politics after all, so it seems like a good place to ask

bretty much this. he is more economically to the right

That can't be right, there has to be some meaningful differences. He comes out of France, she comes out of the US.

I don't know, I don't know his program, I just know he is the candidates of the system and Wall Street.

He's literally the same candidate.

The media run for him, he accused Russia of interfering in his campaign, ...

Maybe a Frenchman would know?

On every major point? That's astonishing.

Immigration policy? Economic policy? Social policy?

Take his program and read it by yourself.

I don't even know where to find it in English.

wikipedia

There are probably major ideological difference. They are both centre-left pragmatic candidates.

European social democrats are at least not as insufferably smug and still has some working class connection.

What is the major difference between Stollenberg and Hillary? Probably a bit more, since Macron seems more right leaning-

I can't think of any major difference.

i don't know hillary well enough
but it's probably more or less the same neoliberal crap
>pretend you're very social with minor "socialist" reforms
>cuck yourself to banks

Wikipedia isn't his program, it's what some leftist people filter and say is his program.

I just went and took a crap, but not much so far.

I would also think there would be major ideological differences, as they come from vastly different countries with different political traditions.

In what specific way is Macron more right leaning?

Probably just Hillarys Satanism.

fun fact: In Norwegian, 'macron' is like a small round cake, something between marzipan and almonds. No foodstuff equivalent for Clinton, so there's a difference.

I think in English it might be called 'macaron'? Anyway, does someone have a link to Macron's program in English as written by himself? It seems I have to do the digging on my own.

They both come from the French American Foundation, they were "Young Leaders", behind the nice name it's basically an atlantist organization where the Washington establishment pick their goys with the best potential and use their network and money to push those people in position of power, Hollande is the most notorious leader.

When we say Macron is a globalist it is not some "le epic maymay", he really belongs to this global neo-aristocracy and those people have the same agenda.

Here you have an article on the structure:
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I did notice that, and found it a bit weird that there is such a "foundation".

Here the most interesting parts:
>Decapactu: What do you say to those who say that the FAF is nothing but a club that cultivates friendship between the American and French peoples?

>PH: It goes without saying that the principle of a "club cultivating friendship between the American and French peoples" is a farce.
>First, friendship does not exist between States. On the other hand, we can witness the outbursts of friendship between certain peoples. However, let us remain cautious. Indeed, because of the economic and sometimes military rivalries, these ties of friendship can quickly disappear.
>Then, on reading the names of the group of generous donors1 and leaders2, one can say that very material and ideological reasons must agitate the minds of the FAF.
>Indeed without naming them, there is Franck Carlucci of the Carlyle group; David Rockfeller, former president of the Council on Foreign Relations and founder of the Trilateral; Ernest-Antoine Sellière, former president of the French and European employers, or one of FAF's former presidents, John Negroponte, former ambassador to Baghdad.
>At this level, philanthropy does not exist.

And

>PH: The French-American Foundation is subdivided into two branches: New York and Paris. In both cases, the aim of the FAF is to integrate persons belonging to the political, economic, military and journalistic elite in order to truly square the ground.
> For many years, it was the professor of political science and CFR member Ezra Suleiman who was the only one to accept the French recruits of the FAF designated by the term Young Leaders.

Notice the (((name)))

Finally

>Decapactu: There are many proponents of neoliberalism and declared atlantists in the Young Leaders list. But how do you explain the presence of personalities like Arnaud Montebourg, François Hollande or Nicolas Dupont Aignan?

>PH: The great strength of the FAF is to welcome among its members the political representatives from the major currents that officially oppose each other: socialism and what is wrongly called the UMP.
>In fact, the French political class has long rallied to the dogma of anarcho-capitalist globalism.
>However, it is useful for the system to maintain an artificial opposition when in fact we live in the one-party system. By playing the right / left alternation, people are led to believe that there is another possible policy. In fact, these political leaders UMPS lead the country towards the same direction: integration with a Euro-Atlantic bloc, prelude to the world state.

And

>Decapactu: Do you think that the management of one of the largest party in France can belong to the FAF?

>PH: This is the case of François Hollande, the boss of the PS. It is also sufficient to see the long list of policies members of the Socialist Party and the UMP belonging to the FAF.
Regardless of the team in power, the FAF will have its men and women in power in France at the service of Atlantis. We must not forget also the presence of many members of the FAF in the big companies and the journalistic milieu. In a way, everything is locked.

Thanks, that is very useful and much like I suspected.

David Rockefeller, the Carlyle Group, the Council on Foreign Relations and John Negroponte would indeed probably not be paying money simply to have people from France and the US meet and play volleyball and video games together.

Any other French people who can contribute on this topic, specifically on Clinton vs Macron differences?

Nah, I'm not your teacher and you can't vote so would be a waste of time.

>Belgian
>French

well then

>people don't move in Europe

okay mate. We are not all neets

That's some funny shitposting, but not really an answer to the question in the topic.

Well then, so far the attempts to point to differences between Le Pen and Macron has turned out practically nothing.

obviously no difference