Why Are Republicans Backing Single-Payer Health Care?

newsweek.com/why-are-most-republicans-backing-single-payer-healthcare-584879

>Who wants a Medicare-for-all system? A plurality of Republicans, apparently.

>An Economist/YouGov survey shows 46 percent of the party in favor of "expanding Medicare to provide health insurance to every American." Just 38 percent are opposed.

>This comes on the heels of a January Pew poll where 30 percent of Republicans agreed that the government has a responsibility "to make sure all Americans have health coverage." That looked like a pretty high number at the time, but the Economist/YouGov results make it seem small.

>If you were alert, you could see this sentiment building for a while. About a year ago, a Gallup Poll suggested that 41 percent of the GOP liked the idea of replacing Obamacare with federally funded universal health care. That number was probably inflated by people willing to endorse anything framed as an alternative to Obamacare, but you can't say that about this year's results.

Because it makes the most sense. Add a tax across the board and everyone has healthcare.

Because after the disaster that was the AHCA, Republicans realize that Medicare For All is the only viable replacement that won't leave them worse off than they are now.

Going back to pre-Obamacare will reintroduce things like preexisting condition policies which will only benefit the rich, while everyone else is toast.

Because I'm not rich and I don't want to be rejected for having a pre-existing condition.

Because they're coming to realize that they probably aren't temporarily embarrassed millionaires after all.

Because based Bernie had been busy reaching out to blue-collar GOP voters and educating them on universal healthcare, and helping them break free of the decades of corporatist "what's best for the rich is best for all" propaganda they've been spoonfed by Fox News and friends.

This is completely unlike the DNC snobs who actively refuse to reach out a hand and connect to them.

If Trump signs universal healthcare into law, it would be an easy reelection.

Now if only Trump himself would realize this.

Does Sup Forums support universal healthcare?

>repeal and replace it with something much better
>medicare for all
I dont like this idea.

because we live in a post constitutional society and virtually the entire country benefits from multiple welfare programs

it is literally impossible for people to see the unseen now

>muh preexisting conditions
literally an incoherent buzz statement when it comes to insurance. The entire concept of insurance is to hedge your bet against the future

government destroyed insurance and healthcare, and now government is providing the """solution""" to insurance and healthcare

Can you think of a better system that will cover every American?

>if trump acts like a leftist, leftists will like him
>if only trump and others would realize that being a leftist is the best way to be a republican
the fucking irony when this was literally the chief complaint against the republican party

just fucking lmao

Because we're over the (((American dream))) lie.

I dont care about every american. I care about what is good for me

the american dream meme was destroyed by leftists trying to implement it, not because it didn't exist
>everyone should own a house

You have to (((work))) for your living, goy!

Just admit that Obamacare was bad but necessary.

are you under the impression animals just killed themselves in front of prehistoric humans you fucking dipstick?

>which will only benefit the rich
>my mind is so warped by leftist ideology I make negative inferences from reality

>letting investment exist again will only benefit the rich, while everyone else is toast
literally a mental illness

We do not live in prehistory. The majority of jobs are going to be automated very soon and a lot of people will no longer have the means to earn a living.

you are uironicaly right

bummer that socialism is a dirty word in the US

lol dumbasses. the republican party only exists today because of racist whites who started voting republican because they hate brown people. how the hell did this country go from electing FDR and Lyndon Johnson in huge landslides to Reagan and Trump?

i don't need or want health insurance and i am sure as hell not to going to pay more in taxes so some worthless fuck can live.

it's a no from me

>we do not live in prehistory
relative to your fantastical world we still do
>are going to be automated very soon
and still aren't
>people will no longer have the means to earn a living
while I fully expect basic income to be implemented, I disagree with you premise. With the infinitely reduced costs of living, etc. the jobs necessary to produce "a living" will also be infinitely reduced.

The evidence is the state of current society. It is entirely possible to live off of a single day of work or a few odd jobs if you are willing to forgo *some* luxuries. More and more frivolous ways to make money are coming into existence. For instance, streaming for money couldn't exist 50 years ago, even if the technology was there, all else equal.

Further, I would argue that the existence of various dependency sources combined with regulation has dulled any industrious pursuit for the lower class.

Essentially, if things become ridiculously cheap in the future, my disposable income will have gone up, which means I can spend on more inane shit. This also includes charity.

so it's obama's fault for passing some sort of relief for the 30 million americans without health insurance even though the republicans demonized him for it and obstructed his plans for a public option?

>nobody addressing the inevitable consequences of bringing "living" closer and closer to being free

>when we have a case study in African society being destroyed by donations

>republicans
democrats had a super majority did they not?
republicans won the next elections because of Obamacare did they not?
>relief for 30 millions americans
why don't leftists debate certain terms? They debate in abstract premises that are pseudo moral so you can't disagree

tomorrow, we could destroy apple and sell off its assets and give that money to 30 millions americans, does that make it not fucking retarded somehow? as if (supposedly) helping people is innately and unquestionably a good thing?

fucking kill yourself

>doesn't need or want health insurance

go away little baby

Because "muh free market" isn't a conservative position.

This is the price of diversity. America will never get free healthcare because everyone knows white would be disproportionately paying for niggers to sit around and breed more

I wouldn't be opposed to Medicare-for-all, so long as it's not more expensive than what I pay now (which is about 10% of my income), and if I can cash out my HSA

Your grasp on American history is sad

>i don't need or want health insurance
You sure about that?

lmao, the reason """free""" healthcare is even within the scope of debate in this country is the vast hordes of shitskins that have zero foresight

>Bernie "the wage gap is real and whites need to apologize for slavery" sanders

I thought that becaus i was in my 29s i didnt need insurance. Then i got testicle cancer, luckily i had good insurance. Your health is worth paying for

>educating them
you mean lying, omitting the truth, and being genuinely ignorant about the causes of the current condition and the truth of the foreign systems, then imparting this poison "wisdom" unto others
>unlike the DNC snobs
bernie is a cuck for the DNC, didn't you watch the election dr. tremendous faggot?

>luckily I had insurance
>things niggers and retards will never say, and the foundation for why we have a problem to begin with

Lol they just dont pay. Goes into collections and white people like me who paid the bill are the ones subsidizing them.

they're transforming into national socialists and it's beautiful

Exactly. Socialists are idiots who shoot themselves in the foot over gay ideological shit. A pure white nation found have 100% socialism and do fine. But leftists are ideologue cultists instead of practical problem solvers, so they are easily led into defending bourgeois policies like open borders and one-worldism.

Yeah, Bernie's a faggot Jew too.

The only legitimate socialism is white supremacist socialism. And funny enough it's the only socialism that would have even a small chance of being implemented.

>have 100% socialism
no, that's an impossibility. Unless you're prepared to solve Mises' price calculation problem then fuck off and die

socialism is a cancer and can work in white society DESPITE being complete garbage

Obamacare passed with a record 0 Republican votes in the House and Senate. Democrats quite literally got everything they wanted and there is no way to blame Republican's for this disaster. No discussion was allowed on the bill and the bill was passed without even enough time given to read it.

This. People keep bitching about not wanting to pay for lazy shitskins healthcare without realizing they already are. These people without insurance wait until they're very ill and go into emergency rooms and then skip out on the bill. Driving up the price of healthcare for those who actually do pay for it. We already have the highest spending on healthcare for a shitty system, single payer would allow more people to get actual preventative care and drive down overall costs.

Illegals bean niggers are part of the problem. We should kill them

w-what? what happens if you go into an elevator with the robot?

Who's denying that?
The only thing that made any sense was that you have to force everyone in to make insurance companies accept pre existing conditions.
The fact that human healthcare is majority ran for profit is in contrast of healthcare itself.

What's the appropriate amount? Bernie came up with 7%. That's insane.

>the only thing that made any sense was forcing coverage of pre existing conditions
why does that make sense?
>the fact that healthcare is ran for profit is in contrast to healthcare itself
why does that make sense?

Tricky Dick Nixon was for universal healthcare.

No shit. The GOP base is now a national socialist base after Trump's win, not the cuckservatives and free market dicksuckers. Those agendas only appeal to old people and billionaire fat cats. The tide is changing and has been.

>old people are not still completely in control of politics in this country
apart from the rest of your stupid larping this is the dumbest part of the post

I said majority ran for profit. For profit hospitals and insurance companies still exist in countries with nationalised healthcare.

Yes

That's not what I was disputing. Why is it that any of it for profit is "in contrast of healthcare itself"

are you under the impression that labor and resources are free?

>Large portion of Sup Forums worship Hitler and claim to be National Socialists or civic nationalists
>Yet lose their shit when policies aimed at promoting the welfare of all citizens are proposed and bitch about muh welfare state and free markets

>large portion
it's almost like there's another large portion that opposes things like welfare states and free markets
>natsoc retards in charge of deductive reasoning

I'm not.

It comes down to how you define healthcare. Is it the needs of the patient, or the needs of the patient if it's worth it? For example, if all healthcare was ran for profit.. why would cancer care exist? A patient has a 50/50 chance to survive, so why should a hospital gamble on the parient's ability to pay, especially when insurance companies get to dictate how much they will cover.

the needs of the patient are potentially infinite
>why should a hospital gamble?
are you implying a hospital should do absolutely everything possible in order to extend somebody's life? do you understand what that implies?

That is the current healthcare model the world follows. It doesn't matter how I personally feel about it.

By gamble, I'm saying if a patient is diagnosed with cancer and has a 50% chance of surviving.. why should a hospital even try chemotherapy and surgery if they can't guarantee the ability to pay?

A full for profit model would result in probably 10% of patients being shown the door because of their income.

>by gamble im saying
you're lacking a point
>a full for profit model would result in 10% of patients
only insofar as they can't afford whatever above their insurance for extra care

socialized medicine does the same cost benefit analysis because it has nothing to do with profit and everything to do with the reality of scarcity

what is your point anyway?

People realize that muh free market economy also means immigrant labor.