So are we all now agreed that the future of the west (a few hundred years from now) is Islam whether we like it or not?
It's simply because it's the fastest growing religion, and if you leave it you have to be executed. No other popular religions execute apostates. Therefore islam will spread the fastest.
Terrorism will be used to put pro muslim laws into effect. The government can only defend against so many attacks before it starts to give in to demands.
“But the government will just put soldiers on every street and increase our anti terrorism facilities”. Sure but at what cost. Create enough fear and our countries will soon be bankrupting themselves fighting a guerilla war within their own country for the forseeable future. Think how much money our governments and businesses use each time a lone terrorist goes on a rampage. It must be in the hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions
The only way to stop the rise of islam would be.
1. outbreed them (unlikely as islam is growing at a far greater rate than christianity) 2. Make the punishments for leaving other religions such as christianity death as well, so it keeps the numbers up.
So stop complaining about invading muslims, and accept it. It's the future.
nah. islam is not a religion. it's a military order. So once they conquer the promised land they will live their lives without any reservations imposed by religion of war equals peace in those scattered castles telling those aristocrat jokes. At the same time muhammeds have unfinished business with those not broke back mountains coming up, not to mention all those rainbows coming into picture. So rainbows do not forgive, rainbows do not forget, expect it.
William Jackson
Yeah, let's just accept our possible demise like fucking pussies.
We should actually do something about it and at least go down fighting.
Nathan Hill
>It's simply because it's the fastest growing religion, and if you leave it you have to be executed. It's almost like people are AFRAID to admit that they are not really muslims. Also, if you are born a muslim you are considered a muslim. That's where this "fastest growing religion" bullshit comes from.
Blake Martinez
No, I'm Christian and will never give up my faith. Islam can eat shit.
Hunter Phillips
Or you can just start killing Muslims.
Samuel Morgan
civil war in europe between muslims and non-muslims seems inevitable once the mudslime population gets big enough.
Carson Rivera
stop being silly
that will never happen. And muslims would win anyway as they want to go to "paradise" so their suicide attacks would be far more damaging
Adam Cook
we could just ban the quran
Landon Cruz
>ban the quran >it suddenly becomes "cool" and "edgy" to read the quran >islam gets thousands of new followers You cannot win against this ideology.
deal with it
Daniel Perez
Maybe. I think there is a component of this explanation that is incomplete.
Muslims are successfully invading western areas that no longer adhere to western values, which have been abandoned for whatever leftism is nowadays (worshiping victimhood, weakness?).
Perhaps being across the Atlantic is clouding my perception here, but suburban/rural areas that are 90+% white are still essentially untouched by muslim influence. Additionally, I think I'm correct in assessing that if muslims attempted to exert influence in these areas (that still overwhelmingly are christian), there would be substantial, potentially violent resistance.
Basically, Westerners that want to have futures are making sure that happens, and Westerners that don't appear to also be making sure that happens.
Going to be pretty interesting seeing how this all plays out.
Camden Campbell
How can islam be winning when the middle east is constantly blowing up, there's a difference between a literal invasion(like in Iraq) and a migrant 'invasion, here's a hint: One usually precedes the other.
Landon Hernandez
here in the UK i think our christians are very different to yours.
Almost all church of england christians hold extremely similar views to leftists. The catholics are a bit more right wing but there really aren't that many catholics in the uk. " The Church of England says about 26 million people have been baptised, the Catholic Church claims just over four million members in England and Wales - and another 695,000 in Scotland. "
There are almost 3 million muslims in the UK now, and christianity is decreasing in this country, whilst islam increases. It wont be long before they take over.
I didn't say they're winning right now, but they will eventually. And i don't think there are many muslim societies where things aren't blowing up on a regular basis.
Blowing up is a sign that the muslims are in control (warring factions and sects etc)
Xavier Perez
>I didn't say they're winning right now, but they will eventually.
No they won't the natives don't like Islam there's already lots of unrest over it conflict will be inevitable if it continues to grow. Look at UKIP today talking about bannhing the niqab and Islamic schools and the BBC reporting on it. Never would have happened 5 years ago but people are waking up finally.
Colton Sullivan
When everyone accepts Islam terrorism will finally end. It will also serve to curtail population by culling the non believer. Win, win
Nathan Hall
>ban niqab and islamic schools WOW YOU DID IT YOU STOPPED THE RISE OF ISLAM
Are you honestly this naive? The more ostracized the muslims become, the deeper underground they will go, and the more support they will get from leftists.
Dominic Gutierrez
>Terrorism will be used to put pro muslim laws into effect.
and then terrorism will be used against it.
Jayden Roberts
You have failed to factor western culture in. They are not interested in religion, but social media and celebrity.
Austin Morgan
>inbred adherents of a dipshit ideology will conquer the west Now that's what I call top kek.
Carson Walker
>the more support they will get from leftists
lol where have you been leftism is dying why do you think May has called an election because Labour are completely fucked now. Tories will win, UKIP will get more votes forcing Tories further right. Labour and the left have never been more irrelevant.
James Adams
3. Close the borders to Muslim countries, crack down on islamism internally, remove welfare for families having more than 2 children, crack down on muslim crime, kill the families of terrorists
Brayden Turner
reductionism is useless, stop doing it. the Islamic world hasn't been in an existential struggle with christendom or whatever since forever, the existential struggle parable called up by the ottomans for example was just there to support plain old imperialism.
In reality the muslim world is lagging behind on many fronts, from innovation to life expectancy to health, these are all real statistics, projected population growth on the other hand is merely a projection, I'd rather look at the real ground numbers rather than speculation first before making my judgement.
Isaiah Perez
....and I thought the french were defeatist.. bloody hell bong.
Parker Cox
hello muhammad, i hope you are enjoying london
Liam Hill
. outbreed them (unlikely as islam is growing at a far greater rate than christianity) . Make the punishments for leaving other religions such as christianity death as well, so it keeps the numbers up.
You forgot 3. Kill all the muslims. That is far more likely then either of the two above options.
Lucas Phillips
I think Islam can do what it wants until it starts to affect the daily lives of western countries in a negative manner. Sooner or later the cultural differences will be the deciding factor for an outrage. Neither party wishes to adjust their thinking for the other. The question is: what event will be the lynchpin?
David Long
The military might of Freedom is much, much stronger than the fanaticism of pigslam. There will come a time than mudslimes will go too far, then they will be swiftly removed. What do they have against one, ONE Carrier Strike Group?
Jeremiah Lopez
>that will never happen You cannot claim that with any certainty over next few hundred years.
>>And muslims would win anyway as they want to go to "paradise" so their suicide attacks would be far more damaging Doesn't matter because if you kill all of the muslims there is no muslim terrorism problem, hell just killing enough of them would do it. Right now we aren't killing anywhere near enough.
Carson Morgan
Gas chambers. Hitler very effectively removed jews. So why not remove fucking sand niggers and plain old niggers? At least jews wasn't rapists and terrorists.
Colton Watson
>numbers equal winning
fucking hilarious
if that were true Africans would have conquered Europe 100 years ago
Easton Watson
? African population was tiny until recently
Kevin Powell
Fuck off despair shill. You fuckers are really persistent aren't you?
Brandon Perez
the west minus the USA
we'll become isolationists before we let these goatfuckers take over
Oliver Foster
>the people who want to die will win in a war no
Islam is a political ideology, it can be crushed like we crushed communism.
Anthony Wood
islam can suck my dick
fuck a pig mohammed
Mason Reyes
I just don't get it, Why hasn't anyone asked what makes mudshits so special? Why hasen't anyone asked why they all have to spread about everywhere? There country is literally a desert and apparently they can't use that. Right under our noses and im here taking it in the ass all the meanwhile.
Hudson Miller
By the occasional right wing nutjob like breivik sure. But the whole philosophy of modern christianity is "turning the other cheek". Islam is a far more violent ideology and it's members prove that time and time again.
You know there are muslim celebrities too, right?
It's mad isn't it. Islam is an anomalous mind virus, it's methods of spreading are ingenious.
>right wing politicians get elected.
Then what? Every solution the right wing would provide would inadvertently increase the number of muslims in the west.
Too extreme, wont happen.
Just because muslim cultures are doing terribly in HDI's, it doesn't mean it can't take over. Think of it as a cancer.
That would also work. But wont happen, at least in our timeline
Nathan Lewis
Islam is the beast of revelation and will rule only momentarily until the return of Christ. This is undeniable fact
Daniel Morgan
Try saying that in the states. 1/6 people here are black.
Alexander Martin
>And muslims would win anyway as they want to go to "paradise" so their suicide attacks would be far more damaging
Horse shit, the US and other western powers have a 40-1 kill death ratio against Mudslimes when fighting them in their own countries. We could purge you fuckers easily, or just starve you out by cutting welfare.
If you attack us, that's only moire motivation to flay you alive and kill your women and children. Death will come to you goat-fuckers soon enough.
Jacob Moore
We're not going bankrupt over islam, we'll ban it long before then. People are absolutely sick of it, even in the relatively small doses we have here. It's not just terrorism, the low IQ peasants who follow it are committing fraud, sexual abuses, violence etc on a huge scale in every single nation they settle in, and thanks to "populism" shifting the Overton window right, people are now starting to seriously talk about removing this cancer from our lands. muslim arrogance is good for us, the more you brag the angrier we become, so keep talking.
Matthew Sullivan
>Too extreme, wont happen. Tomorrow maybe, but after another 20 years of war? Forty? Sooner or later we're going to realize we're balls deep in a war of annihilation and start acting like it.
Josiah Morris
Israel will still fund terrorists you twat.
If anything; Israel will be free to attack any of us when it becomes the new super-power
As if the USA with all its Nukes could become a Muslim country without Israel kicking up a fuss
Jonathan Russell
The image of the beast refers to Mecca, a location millions of Muslims bow towards and pray to 5 times a day all over the world. Within that black box in Mecca is a meteorite or fallen star, which if you've read the Bible you know Satan is referred to as a fallen star. This meteorite is the cornerstone of the black box in Mecca. Jesus Christ is called the cornerstone of the church. He forgives sins, and Islam claims the meteorite absolves sins. We are literally living out revelations people.
Isaac King
I wonder what critical event will wake those people up. 9/11 for the US (well, enough of the US) was a sufficiently large-scale, unambiguously evil act that islam is tainted for I think at least a few generations. The ideology isn't going to proliferate through anything but violence, christian apathy, and unequal birth rates, which are variables that you are probably correct in thinking are less promising there than here.
Hope it doesn't come to something like that -- not like you guys aren't already experiencing unacceptable levels of "enrichment'. Unfortunately, what one might hope for and what one expects are very different things here.
One thing that is perhaps a little more promising is the likely the case that when you all do indeed decide that enough is enough, this country will happily take the opportunity (in "defense" of allies) to bomb all the derka-derkas into ash. You'll probably have to figure out how to purge the ones that have already invaded, though.
Really is an alarming problem. Was hoping for something else to define the primary conflict in my lifetime, but I'm thinking this will probably be it.
This is effectively how a large scale battle would turn out between muslims and christians.
The japanese had a similar suicidal ideology to muslims at this time
Yes i know the americans won, but what i'm saying is you dont need numbers to when you have suicidal battle ideologies
keep living in the clouds my friends. this is your future
Nolan Hernandez
Well first we need to make clear what the first major issue is.
They are hiding behind their religion, but what it primarily is is POLITICAL movement, and yes we can easily fight that when we stop the cucks from using 'Radical Islam' and start using 'Political Islam'.
Things like Muslim wear, is bullshit. There is no Muslim religious wear. There is culture wear (which isn't the same thing) and that culture is 'Political Islam', so take a look at their society, see it into normal wear but in fact a uniform.
Point out political muzzies are anti women, ain't gay and other SJW triggers, and are basically Nazis.
Real reason to ban burkker and other shit, because you know 'it's now offensive'
And start asking why countries we sell weapons to are activity funding groups to kill us.
Profit
Jacob Campbell
Come to London and show me this thing called 'Sick of Islam' Someone please HEEELLLLPPP
Jacob Wright
And do not worry. The Jews will even bow to us Christians when the day comes. They cannot maintain power forever. Hail Christ the lord in heaven
Adrian Robinson
This.
Julian Reyes
I once called a nigger a nigger in Seattle. He did nothing to me.
Xavier Fisher
Implying any of us care about Europe They made their bed and America ain't gonna bail them out again
Grayson Rogers
You'll be tortured to death slowly and painfully Paki scum. That is your future.
Adam Morales
This. History shows that the majority turn in the minority soon enough. People are getting sick of it in this country, and the rise of unemployment and muslim crimes will only get that across. A lot of people don't realise that we don't have that much of a "SJW problem" at least compared to America, or the cuckness of France, Germany and Sweden. In my most far left, liberal commie mates think immigration for non-europeans should just be curbed. I mean, it makes sense from a leftist perspective as well, they see it as a creating an unessecary problem, thinking we're importing "made-to-be-victims" as retarded as that sounds.
Justin Lewis
>too extreme Moving the goalposts there bong, you claimed there were only two options. There's others if you're prepared to go there.
Jacob Morris
>>be careful of what you wish for
Luke Ward
Talmudic Jews worship Satan as Christ warned before in the New Testament. The Talmud and the Quran were both written 600 years after Christ was on earth and he foretold all of it. The beheadings. The government religious system of Islam. The image of the beast. All of it. We are witnesses. Repent and turn to Christ before it is too late brethren. Look up the correlations between biblical end times and Islamic end times. Islam is the polar opposite of christianity's end of days. Our antichrist is their savior and vice versa.
Ayden Scott
no and you didn't crush communism, communism crushed communism, and china 'muh first stage of socialism so we're still socialist we swear' is still around today and the situation isn't comparable, as muslim countries are pushovers but that's not the point Yes it does, these countries are incapable of anything significant, it's the people you're on about, big distinction plus you did nothing to address my point that this was just a projection while the rest are real numbers, you just said YES BUT MAYBE if we look at the countries individually we get a much more useful picture
Take egypt, it was on the path to prosperity and secularism, or at least we thought it was, in reality the rural population was very uneducated and very different from the urban population that the west knew. What happened was large population growth plus migration to the cities encouraged by government industrialisation policies which effectively drowned to very modern urban population with literal uneducated peasants, destroying egypt's future. you clearly have no understanding of modern warfare, this must be b8
Samuel Wright
despite what this retarded faggot thinks, Islam only exists because the west allows it to. If the western world was angry- like really, truly angry- about something Islam and it's followers did and decided it was time to be rid of it was a whole and put all their resources into destroying it, we would see an end to Islam within 1-2 years, with all remaining Muslims driven into hiding. We hold this entire planet and all of it's people in our hands, we decide who lives and who does not.
Easton Gutierrez
They win if things are kept peaceful long enough.
If conflict comes you have to remember most Muslims reside in cities, and cities will have it worst when the water, electricity and food is gone.
Aiden Jones
This meteorite they worship and pray towards every day is an image or idol of Satan. The fallen star. The Bible says that the beast will breathe life into the image and cause it to speak. The Quran says the Mahdi will breathe life into the stone at Mecca and it will speak. Their prophecy is of Satan, be it partially true it is a hoax to convince you to worship Allah/Satan. The Bible says Satan is the greatest deciever and the Quran calls Allah a great deciever. It can't be anymore obvious folks do not take these words lightly. THIS IS THE REAL DEAL
Hudson Moore
kill yourself, you vastly underestimate the pure disgust we have towards Islam in the West you goddamn nigger.
James Martinez
western societies need to rectrict islam religion, thats the only way conversioning them to christianity or go laic, welfare is fucking cancer and degenaration such as income taxes. muslims before blowing up themsleves would work for economy a lil bit
Brandon Perry
The whore of Babylon refers to the paganistic apostic church of Catholicism. This verse was written 1600 years before the birth of the Vatican II.
Jackson Ross
Forgot pic
Jose Gray
REMEMBER THE CRUSADES
Matthew Green
All this situation with immigrants happened because the US removed secular dictators like Qaddafi, Saddam, Mubarak from power. Arab people only understand brutal force applied to them. Only dictators can effectively keep peace in the Middle East. Yeah, there is also cuck boomers leftist generation in charge of Europe like former commie Angela Merkel which imposed multiculturalist policies and thought that sandniggers would help their economies with the aging native population.
But I want to stress that again. Democracy is only for the western wealthy countries, muslims should be ruled by secular military dictators that will keep radical muslims at bay.
Benjamin Green
Sure you can. Abandon all religion, ban all religion. The problem is people want Islam to go away while continuing to pray to white Jesus. Can't have it both ways. You allow one form of delusion to be viewed as legitimate, you have too take them all.
Jace Scott
Tell me one immoral or hateful teaching of Christ
William Wilson
>you didn't crush communism, communism crushed communism communism would have worked with out our psyops.
chinas not communist at all anymore, its political party just calls itself communist for legitimacy.
Ryder Bailey
Them muslims will fight themselves like them are doing in middle east and pakistan
Dominic Mitchell
I have to say your replies have reminded me that the west isn't really at risk of this due to it's armed population and massive military.
Europe will fall. Not the US.
However, in the very distant future, it would be interesting to see how a war between america and the rest of the world (now islamic) would turn out.
>The ideology isn't going to proliferate through anything but violence
And this is the genius of islam. In all other religions/societies warfare/death is to be avoided. The recent rise in suicide bombings and martyrdom allows the islamic population to effectively act as one coherent being, sending out suicide bombers to enact change.
Think about it. What's more expensive to use: A predator drone? Or mehmet the street urchin with a bomb up his arse? One could argue a suicide bomber is actually more effective/accurate than a predator drone
James Wood
Do you think there is anything inherent to islam that is at least analogous to the communism crushing communism outcome?
They do seem awfully content to butcher each-other when left to their own devices. Remove travel incentives created by european welfare institutions & immigration policies? I guess we could also stop bombing them so your leftists can't justify these policies, but that would make too much sense.
Grayson Collins
That would be replacing one totalitarian regime with another. Considering some religions are tolerated in islamic countries, id say that option is actually worse than being ruled under islam.
Alexander Peterson
>Muslims or African rapes a kid and beats them >found not guilty in court and is praised and rewarded by the general public >actual rape gangs that roam the streets looking for young white girls that they fuck for years with the parents and police not doing anything to save them and the police actually punish the parents of the girls for being bigots
>a white guy sits with his legs spread too far apart or pisses standing up and is deemed a societal hazard for toxic masculinity and is ostracized by women and punished by the government
As long as women can vote and leftists control the government, Islam and non-whites will win. Seems like all white women love and defend and protect non-whites with all their hearts and yearn to be dominated by Islam while shitting on white guys who give them everything they want. You lose. If Muslims and non-whites exist in your country, you already lost.
Ayden James
I'm not even sure Europe is allowed to fall. Even in the worst case scenario where the people want it to fall, it's far too important for both Western and Eastern powers (e.g. US, China, Japan) as a trading partner to lose as a source of revenue. The people who run those countries know that mehmet and his family cannot afford products unless europeans pay for them.
As long as we're talking "expensive", we probably are also forced to discuss how expensive it would be for europe to be allowed to turn into the middle east. Muslims aren't good consumers, which makes them bad goys.
Matthew Cook
We are going to slaughter every last one of you goat fuckers, you think you are winning now because we aren't doing anything. You are like a child that keeps hitting a man in the leg, irritating him, there will come a point when he snaps, slams his clenched fist into the petulant child's face, and the prick of a kid ends up dead from the head trauma. Trust me sand nigger, you have no clue what you are are doing. We don't play games when we really go to war.
Elijah Gonzalez
WHY does that picture represent Islam so well?
Thomas Nelson
or we could just genocide them
Evan Morales
>If Muslims and non-whites exist in your country, you already lost. Fuck off with this retarded defeatist bullshit. The only reason they continue to exist is the have not given a strong enough reason to be purged. They keep pushing the envolope, however. Let them push that envelope, and watch them continue to lose support. How many times do you hear "I used to be big on racial equality/ anti racism but after all that has happened and after looking at facts I can understand why the races are different" or something along those lines? I hear it all the goddamn time and I'm in California. People are accepting it less and less and growing more and more resentful. There is a breaking point and we haven't reached it yet.
Camden Cook
And this is how the empire falls. I have yet to see someone provide a realistic ideological solution/alternative that doesn't involve removing peoples personal liberties. this you realise america is in a massive amount of debt partly as a result of the wars in the middle east, which were mostly a result of muslim extremism.... right????
Just imagine it, terror bomb threats on the civilian population every day. How much would that cost the tax payer? And how long would it take before the police simply start ignoring the threats due to too many hoax ones, allowing actual terrorist attacks to happen
James Ross
>too extreme Obviously it's too extreme for today. The moment regular people begin to legitimately fear for their lives anything becomes a possibility.
Landon King
there are none, The retards just bring up old pre christ death old testament laws
Jacob Thompson
t.Paul Golding
Adam Evans
>the moment regular people fear for their lives
the only thing that would make an entire population fear for their lives would be something like a nuke or bioweapon destroying london.
The islamists wont do this as smaller lone wolf attacks wont incur the wrath of the entire population and get them glassed.
This is a battle of attrition.
Adrian Cooper
The soviet union could have lasted until today without gorbachev's reforms, granted in a bad state but you were mostly on the side lines on china they are still communist, the first stage of socialism doctrine was even already there under Mao, although reinterpreted by Deng Not at all, communism didn't butcher itself into defeat, what happened were very inconsequential reforms that happened both too slowly and too fast for the ussr
Brody Baker
>The only way to stop the rise of islam would be. You forgot ethnic cleansing/mass deportation Mudasir youtube.com/watch?v=FIcxqVRLEWI
Evan Morales
You should decide stopping being a cuck...or die by the sword.
But I guess you will chose being a cuck, right?
Seriously, most likely all the "great christian warriors", from the crusades to other wars were faggots or had bullshit inside, otherwise, there is no real reason why you are fighting for that "jesus".
And you will find most of catholic "saints" were mad people, degenerates or losers, nobody became "saint" for God, but for their own failure in life.
Instead, Mahoma was a good cucked guy, who became the most awesome warlord in the history.
So...Stop being a cuck you fucking christian, Alah says...otherwise...DIE!
Ryan Morris
>just imagine it No sand nigger you just imagine you and your family butchered by the infidels you have invaded and pissed off, because that's what's coming. We won't want the police there, we will be judge, jury and bloody executioner. Your time is limited you will flee while you can, that is if you have a functional brain.
Carson Russell
5th Crusade is coming without a single doubt.
Noah Garcia
Hell any major western city has a bio or nuclear attack, and a lot of shit will go down. You say this won't happen... That's why all these salafist groups are seeking nuclear materials and growing weaponize strains of weird shit. Not to use it one anyone or anything. Just to have, and hold and distinctly not to use against the West. If that's what you think you sir are retarded
Mason Foster
If only it didn't already happen in 1217
Owen Hernandez
Time to lay off the coke Columbia. Islam is a global threat, and even leftists are ceasing to be amused by it. The day will come where Islam either self reforms or everyone is destroyed that it touches.
Dylan Smith
That is not a question of hi-cost equipment vs. lo-cost human resources but rather simple extortion: Ultimately, islam attacks cannot be prevented, so western governments will instead be forced to make concessions in return for a period of "peace"... which they then can sell to the voters as "success". And since the consequences are only long term the politicians will not suffer from them either. Add to that that the left still considers Islam as a kind of new and improved anti-capitalism and anti-sexism and thus an ally. This is how western civilisations are slowly slipping into the sharia.
Ryder Howard
>Implying I dont want coke traders being beheaded >Implying this can be possible having a bunch of ameriburgers sniffing this shit in name of their "god"
Thomas Cooper
Funny thing is that we usually discuss ethnic cleansing/mass deportation as a sort of meme or fantasy (or at least nonviable so not worth mentioning).
At some point desperate people conclude that you'll never get a certain group to assimilate or stop killing your people. This is the moment when it becomes morally permissible to just go after the invaders and slaughter them wholesale. It becomes even easier if the media is complicit.
I think part of the inaction at this point is that if it came down to a fight, whites would so obviously win that muslims are still treated as a non-threat to certain shortsighted segments of the population. Human beings aren't yet so "civilized" that self-preservation is totally extinguished (maybe sweden is the case study for this concept though). When the numbers get a little "too close for comfort" then the "average person" will start thinking about these problems differently.
Mason Ward
Do you honestly think Islam would have given us Courage the Cowardly Dog? Go fuck yourself you stupid faggot
Grayson Brooks
exactly
A lot of shit will go down? What exactly? It's not like 9/11 where we can blame another country and go and invade them. How does one even stop an army of suicidal domestic terrorists hiding within the general population????
Mason Miller
You're right. I guess what I was trying to speculate about was whether islam has a built-in weakness that the current political/social landscape has not yet fully exposed. What ideology does not, after all?