Holocaust

Hello, Sup Forums

So I've heard from my friends that this website is pretty much extremely anti-Semitic and also denies Holocaust (obviously).

For many people it's apparent that the killings of six million and more European Jews did occur.

So, why are you listening to the vocal minority that pushes this poisonous agenda?

Anyway, post your delusions and I will Google and debunk them for you


P.S. Don't try to throw ad hominem attacks at me. Both of my parents are Catholic.

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beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/11/international-red-cross-records-put-the-holocaust-death-toll-of-camp-inmates-at-271301-2835710.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Konrad_Morgen
fas.org/irp/eprint/iraqi/wahhabi.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#Six_million
barnesreview.org/simon-wiesenthal-lied-and-admitted-it-says-top-israeli-holocaust-historian/
i.imgur.com/v1PyLBN
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19
ww2history.com/experts/David_Cesarani/Hitler_s_decisions_about_the_Jews
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Papist.

>For many people it's apparent that the killings of six million and more European Jews did occur.
Got any proof?

so i will start with one question why nazi would want to kill the jew ?? its not logical to spend million or billiard mark to kill jew when you are on a full world war . or they are dumb What i doubt when you see the economic past

Are you the French bro who knows everything about this?

Stalin killed 27 million civilians and nobody said anything about that,starved the ukrainians between the 2 wars and 79% of all german pows never came back home,while communist soldiers volunteered to fight against the soviet regime

this

If there's money involved, you can safely bet that it's a lie.

no i know nothing autra bro

Let's pretend the Holocaust is real for a moment. Why in the fuck would I care? Stupid nigger jew slav faggot.

There is only testimony as proof

>Anyway, post your delusions and I will Google and debunk them for you
Heres some ready questions.

are you asking about the 6 million figure?

>Calculating the numbers of individuals who were killed as the result of Nazi policies is a difficult task. There is no single wartime document created by Nazi officials that spells out how many people were killed in the Holocaust or World War II.
>To accurately estimate the extent of human losses, scholars, Jewish organizations, and governmental agencies since the 1940s have relied on a variety of different records, such as census reports, captured German and Axis archives, and postwar investigations, to compile these statistics. As more documents come to light or as scholars arrive at a more precise understanding of the Holocaust, estimates of human losses may change.
>The single most important thing to keep in mind when attempting to document numbers of victims of the Holocaust is that no one master list of those who perished exists anywhere in the world.
>What follow are the current best estimates of civilians and disarmed soldiers killed by the Nazi regime and its collaborators.
>These estimates are calculated from wartime reports generated by those who implemented Nazi population policy, and postwar demographic studies on population loss during World War II.

'Ending the Jewery' certainly implies the extermination. The seizure of the belongings of millions of Jews also makes sense
>This question is one of the most difficult to answer. While Hitler made several references to killing Jews, both in his early writings (Mein Kampf) and in various speeches during the 1930s, it is fairly certain that the Nazis had no operative plan for the systematic annihilation of the Jews before 1941. The decision on the systematic murder of the Jews was apparently made in the late winter or the early spring of 1941 in conjunction with the decision to invade the Soviet Union.

Cremation on the scale claimed at Auschwitz is impossible with modern crematorium ovens let alone from the 40s.

The crematoria there was built in the 50s by the Russians and RAF aerial photography proves they were not there before.

When the holocaust was investigated by Western Allied investigators all camps in Western territory were declassified from Death camps to concentration camps.

The Western Allies openly claim that brainwashing the German people was a priority after 1945. Most of the early claims human soap and lampshades etc are no longer part of the narrative.

These are the points that most interested me. Would be interested to see them debunked

Shut up Jew

Why would they build a swimming pool, a post office and a theater in a 'death camp'? You tell me.

>>Calculating the numbers of individuals who were killed as the result of Nazi policies is a difficult task. There is no single wartime document created by Nazi officials that spells out how many people were killed in the Holocaust or World War II.
>>To accurately estimate the extent of human losses, scholars, Jewish organizations, and governmental agencies since the 1940s have relied on a variety of different records, such as census reports, captured German and Axis archives, and postwar investigations, to compile these statistics. As more documents come to light or as scholars arrive at a more precise understanding of the Holocaust, estimates of human losses may change.
>>The single most important thing to keep in mind when attempting to document numbers of victims of the Holocaust is that no one master list of those who perished exists anywhere in the world.
>>What follow are the current best estimates of civilians and disarmed soldiers killed by the Nazi regime and its collaborators.
>>These estimates are calculated from wartime reports generated by those who implemented Nazi population policy, and postwar demographic studies on population loss during World War II.

Aha so no official proof.
Funny how the Red Cross actually has a number.
beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/11/international-red-cross-records-put-the-holocaust-death-toll-of-camp-inmates-at-271301-2835710.html

this is where i doubt you just say
> The decision on the systematic murder of the Jews was apparently made in the late winter or the early spring of 1941 in conjunction with the decision to invade the Soviet Union.
i cannot just understand how a dumb decision can be take when you decide to invade the USSR its like, fuck i don't have solution i must kill jew when i fight igor and ivan the killer robot of stalingrad

It doesn't matter, Jews died and that is a good thing

21 is too many. They all are fairly old anyway
1) >There were basically two ways of avoiding deportation to the death camps: going into hiding or acquiring protected status. The latter option was open chiefly to Jews having German nationality. People who got to the camps survived simply because the Nazis have lost.

21) >Some crematories are designed in such a way that they do not "billow" smoke. But, the Birkenau crematoria, for example, were not fitted with afterburners, so as to reduce the cost of construction. That would have resulted in more smoke being emitted than in a normal civilian crematorium.

This invasion itself was a major step of the Final Solution.

The 6 million figure is persistent through out massive number of different research works. What sort of the 'offical proof' you want anyway?

The Haavara Transfer Agreement BLOWS UP the whole holocaust narrative. It was a deal between the Nazis and the Zionists to help emigrate german jews to Palestine/Israel.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED!

Want another piece of evidence??

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Konrad_Morgen

This is a Waffen SS judge. He executed a camp commandant for killing two jewish prisoners……….

Let me repeat that; A NAZI SS JUDGE EXECUTED A CAMP COMMANDANT FOR KILLING TWO JEWISH PRISONERS!

He was so fucking thorough that he interviewed other prisoners, PERSONALLY!

Why would an SS judge be executing commandants, when they are supposedly gassing / rolling / electrifying 666 million of them!?!?

On these two points alone the narrative crumbles. And we haven't even gotten to the number problem of killing 3287 people a day in gas chambers, let alone the fuel needed to cremate them all.

They couldn't even produce 1 body for the Nuremberg Trials!

These are lies, the Holocaust is a lie.

How is it (((anti semetic))) to state the obvious truth?

>Both of my parents are catholic

wut?

>The 6 million figure is persistent through out massive number of different research works.

That's for sure.

>muh 5 million jews.
It was ethnic cleansing and you know it.
Hitler only wanted to keep the Nordic people in Europe.
He wanted: Slavs, Jews, Gypsies, black, and other minorities out of Europe.
The Jews were one of the many minorities Hittler wanted out of Europe.

hitler literally did nothing wrong

>The 6 million figure is persistent through out massive number of different research works.
The "official" number atm is i think 1.5 million dingus. Funny how they keep pushing the 6 million though.

The Haavara Transfer Agreement (evidently) did not even happen.

>Although he could not prosecute the mass extermination of Jews — which, as he explained after the war, was legalized by order of Hitler — he still went on to prosecute the camp commandant Rudolf Höss and the Chief of the camp Gestapo, Maximilian Grabner, for crimes including murder.
LOL

As we all know, 'out' means exterminated

what are you talking about?

Show me the proof of 6 gorillion and I'm all ears

>evidently

Source?

It was abandoned, at least

Can you explain it to me how it disproves the Holocaust when, in reality, it was actually a part of the Final Solution?

Israel did 9/11

Blamed on Saudi

But it was Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya Syria, Iran and Iraq that were invaded - displacing 10s of millions?

Kalergi Plan in action

fas.org/irp/eprint/iraqi/wahhabi.pdf

Shut up faggot

He meant Eastern Orthodox you fag

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#Six_million
>The vast majority of scholars, institutions, and even Nazi officials[67] have estimated that no less than five to six million Jews perished during the Holocaust,[68][69][70][71] while some claim the number could possibly be even higher.[72][73][74] With as many as 4.3 million Jewish victims' names collected by Yad Vashem alone,[75] numerous documents and archives discovered after the war gave meticulous accounts of the exterminations that took place at the death camps (such as Auschwitz and Treblinka).[76] The Nizkor project conducted a thorough research about this claim as well, and found the number of Jewish death to be at least 5.65 million.[77]

fuck off

Oh, yes, absolutely

My bad

>As we all know, 'out' means exterminated
He wanted to kick them out to Palestine but the mufti of Palestine didn't want them there. So Hitler used them as slave/cheap labor. The mufti made the suggestion to just killed them. As the war was turning bad, Hitler decided to follow Mufti's advice.

The killings still happened but the Jews wanted sympathy so they can create the Jewish State of Israel. They took the term "Holocaust" from the Armenian's. In 1949 they got their wish at the expense of Palestine.

It's ironic the British were 'ok' with creating Israel so they can get the Jews out of the UK/Europe.

My question to you is, why are the Jews hated throughout Europe/History?

I'm Amerifat, so i have no idea why Jews are hated trough out Europe/History.

>at least

no proof

Why would Hitler ship Jews away if he wanted them dead?

Why do you keep quoting wikipedia? Every academic will fucking slap your ass for using it.

barnesreview.org/simon-wiesenthal-lied-and-admitted-it-says-top-israeli-holocaust-historian/

>fuck off

kek, noice failure thread faggot

How can spicey spicer talk about holocaust centers if the holocaust wasnt real?

>Hello, Sup Forums

>For many people it's apparent that the killings of six million and more European Jews did occur.

This is God.
Six million did not die.
You owe me several million.
Get ready to burn!

some say 6million, others say 12 million.
The truth is is that it was greatly exaggerated and is somehow worse than the soviet union killing 50million or the Armenian genocide

Hence, it did not happen the way history tells it

Racial hatred. Jealousy. People don't like other people by default, I guess

Because he would have finished them later?

I'm lazy. It's not like this board (and anti-Semites in general) has any standards

>that link
I did not say anything about 11 million

>final solution
>ship kikes away to finish them later

Fukn struggling as fuck

>We know we just blamed all of our countries problems on this small and 100% innocent minority so lets kill them all without anyone knowing about it spending massive resources on it while we are fighting a war we are currently losing.

So, where are all these Jews (if not exterminated)?

uhh
logic and arguments don't work this way

??

imma just copy and paste this in every holohax thread

oh boy, here we go again...

I know I'm responding to stale pasta, but still I'll take the bait. Just to clarify:

>6 million jews gassed

wrong, no historian on planet earth is claiming this.

>6 million Jews killed

ok, moving on:

> there are 15 crematoriums

Wrong, 5 crematoriums labeled I to V, 15 ovens in total, 52 oven muffles in total, it's the muffles that are relevant to any calculation.

>It takes 1 hour to cremate a body

so.....what mathematic genius thinking process makes you conclude it therefore takes 2 hours to cremate 2 bodies? Please tell me the thought process that brought your high IQ to this conclusion?

>The elevators used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their weight capacity.

Again, absolute bullshit. Why do you just keep making stuff up without any source?

Here's my source as to why the elevator had tons more capacity:

i.imgur.com/v1PyLBN


>That means 15 Jews were gassed and burned every 1.2 hours.

Again, you're assuming 1 crematorium = 1 oven = 1 muffle which is FUCKING RETARDED as I have already said above.

52 muffles is the number you need, so even using your 1.2 hours per corpse and 1 corpse per muffle logic, your maths would yield 52 corpses per 1.2 hours and not 15.

>That comes out to exactly 300 Jews every 24 hours

again, corrected maths with the above arbitrarily set parameters says 1040 Jews every 24 hours, assuming 1 corpse per muffle only, and 1.2 hours per corpse.

And 6 years means 2.2 million corpses cremated this way, which never happened, as Auschwitz' death toll is 1.1 million, so we can make the calculation fit to 2.4 hours per corpse and the math would still fit with the current narrative, not even including any outdoor cremation.

Derp.

Do you believe in white privilege?

If you do, then you obviously believe in Jewish privilege.

uhhh

I've had enough of your inability to tell me why Hitler would ship kikes away if he planned on killling them all in his final solution?

>Racial hatred. Jealousy. People don't like other people by default, I guess
Sounds like a copout answer.

5+ million Slavs died in WW2, why isn't that considered a Holocaust?

2+million Gypsies died in WW2, why isn't that considered a Holocaust?

Why do we have to worship the victim-hood of the Jews?

Why are Jews considered notorious trough out the Muslim world right now?

All this "hatred" has its roots somewhere, and I would appreciate if you explain it without a copout answer.

Nobody wakes up hating a group of people just because of "Jealousy."

Your strawman is pretty weak

Whites are extremely privileged. For starters, they compromise (almost) the entire 1st world

Jews, on the other hand, are constatnly denied their homeland and preservation

Hitler was not involved in this, you dumb ass

The Haavara agreement is extremely irrelevant and unimportant because it was a failure

Because anti-Semitism is not a fault of Jews (BY DEFINITION)
It needs to be stopped because you need to accept us for your own benefit

The purported death toll at Auschwitz has slowly declined from over 4 million to approximately 1 million. Where did the other 5 million deaths come from? The other camps haven't reported that the death toll was hundreds of thousands of people more than originally thought. The six million now stands at three million based off that alone.

>irrelevant and unimportant

proofs now faggot

Why send them away if you're planning on killing them?

>failure

proofs now faggot

>Whites are extremely privileged. For starters, they compromise (almost) the entire 1st world

I don't think you know what privilege means. Hard work with the results you see isn't privilege - it's called outcome.

I guess you don't understand the context.

>anti-semitism is not a fault of jews (by definition)
>oy vey goy follow the dictionary forget history goy there's no reason, none, for hating uz chozen

Truly kikery

Don't forget that 1.5m jews were killed by nazi death squads

>expecting logical decisions from Nazis

sure bruh

>never built a strategic bomber
>ALL BOMBERS MUST BE DIVE BOMBER
>built handful of shitty battleships with no chance of contesting against even the smallest Allied fleet instead of building more U-boats
>forbid fixed tooling till 1943
>built six different vehicles for every single job
>kept producing consumer goods till 1943
>didn't switch to a three-shift work schedule till 1943

and then Hitler

>personally meddled in military affairs, like determining the size of a tank's main gun
>such a shitty strategist that the Brits decided not to assassinate him because his replacement would be way better
>let his SS inner circle fuck everything up with their dicksucking and circlejerking corrupt club
>KEPT THAT USELESS FAT FUCK GOERING IN CHARGE OF THE LUFTWAFFE
>*ALLIED. WITH. FUCKING. ITALY*

but naw brah he was totes firing on all cylinders hue

>muh 600 gorrilion
>muh privilege
>muh innocent jews

>Why send them away if you're planning on killing them?
They've changed their minds. The program was cancelled, why you can't understand that? Fucking idiot

>Hard work = looting, rape, murder, theft on a global scale
are you high?

fuck off

OP...Go fuck your Kike Mother..seriously, you can't be serious..

>they've changed their minds

Proof

>program was cancelled

Proof

Fukn idiot making unsourced claimed like a real fukn simple cunt

>fuck off

Shoo shoo smelly jooooooooo

>Pretends to have just learned about this site.

>Knows inherently how to click the GET's and format with greentext.

You all are posting in a bait thread.

I have this theory, humor me a bit, my theory has something to do with nepotism and Jewish mothers.

My theory:
Jews get married into high society and Jewish mothers push their children to be part of the same family job(Nepotism). Part of Jewish culture is to stand "united" with other Jews because they are trust worthy(for w/e reason). They slowly kick none-Jews out of power. This creates a sense of unfairness.

This is my theory as to why they are hated.

It similar to how whites wouldn't let none-whites into positions of power back in the early days of American History.

tl;dr : Power+Nepotism+not.sharing.power = hatred.

Personally speaking, I can't tell white people and Jews apart.

inb4 Le_Happy_merchant.jpg

Kek, the kike has devolved into shitposting. U mad?

>Hard work = looting, rape, murder, theft on a global scale

Do you think white people only looted, raped, and murdered?

Are you high?

Literally every single thing you are touching right now is because of white people and white culture.

Man, you are incredibly dumb and don't even have a basic grasp of history.

>looting, rape, murder, theft on a global scale
i think we broke him

I have a simple set of criterion.
Is it illegal to question X anywhere? y/n.

>(y)
X is probably false and I will disbelieve it regardless of context.

>(n)
X could be true or false and should be questioned accordingly.

The Holocaust is illegal to deny in multiple countries. That means that it fears investigation, period. It is also very shaky in its support and feasibility. If you want me to believe something, the wrong way to start is to put me in jail for asking questions about it, and a worse way still is to ask me to believe literal nonsense.

When Eichmann was arrested, part of his testimony included claims that Jews were gassed using parts from Soviet diesel submarines. Do you realize how absurd this is? What about claims of "gas vans" which were used to kill Jews on the spot by Sonderkommandos? Where are the production records of these vehicles? Which factory were they built in?

What about coke? We know the coke allowance for each camp for the purposes of cremating the dead. The amounts required would have been astronomical but the totals listed do not reflect that.

What about efficiency? Why were the "gas chambers" in Auschwitz built on a different floor from the ovens? How did the ovens operate more efficiently than modern crematoria? Why do the Holocaust's practical numbers keep going down over time while officially the number is raised?

Why is "6 million Jews" a recurring theme throughout history? Why were they claiming 6 million Jews were killed in WWI, the Franco-Prussian War, and earlier?

Why is it illegal to question the official story in Germany? Why is no skepticism given to the fact that most of this data is Soviet Reported when the Soviets also lied about the Katyn Massacre?

Why were none of the camps liberated by Americans, including those further East than some liberated by Soviets, "Death Camps?"

Why is the Holocaust still relevant when more people died in Soviet gulags and forced famines? Where is the Ukraine's Ethnostate?

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I can do that too, you piece of shit

this website is pretty accessible

just because you think it's your 'sekrit klup' does not make it so

technological advances are purely raceless
atrocities committed by European empires are not

>white people literally invented everything im using RIGHT NOW
>durr CULTURE AND TECHNOLOGY IS RACELESS!

You keep getting dumber with every post.

kek fucking retarded frog eater. jews were rich asf comparing to "supreme white race" in europe. (and pls dont tell me that they stole that money bc ur fucking pathetic)

>The Holocaust is illegal to deny in multiple countries. That means that it fears investigation, period.
*tips fedora*

>Where is the Ukraine's Ethnostate?
It's called Ukraine

you take pride in stuff you did not make

but,
you also benefit from the crimes of your ancestors

>proof

refer to pic here you stupid cunt. And here Now, where are your proofs?

Boshevik Kikes kill 15 million Christians - and we're meant to give a shit about 1-6million kikes?

England banned them several times for a reason - 1918; the kikes tried to have a revolution in Germany then got what was coming to them

Are we saying if communists/kikes/socialists tried to over-throw our current countries we'd garner them with sympathy?

NO!!! Theyd face the death penalty

Muh holocaust

Its not that i doubt the holocaust - i accept it happened and im delighted by it.

Shouldnt commit crimes then they wouldnt have been put in camps. Simples.

This

I see you need to strawman once your argument has been destroyed.

I shove your face into white culture and white technology and show you that you are FORCED to RELY on white intellect in your every day life.

Your strawman?

>B-B-BUT MEAN WHITE PEOPLE BEFORE YOU EXISTED!

Man you really are shit at debating.

That isn't fedora tippery, it's basic skepticism. Give me an actual reason to believe it when we know for a fact that contrary arguments are silenced. Truth does not fear investigation.

>It's called Ukraine
Not the same thing. The Ukraine is not guaranteed as the sovereign racial right of the Ukranian people as a result of their hardships, it was an administrative region of the USSR which was released with accessories after the union collapsed.

The holocaust is to distract people

Jews were criminals - they tried to revolt in 1918 like they did in Russia with the Bolshevik a year before.

Hitler put them in camps at a later date and hes the criminal?

Im wondering; had Hitler not had that power - what WOULD have happened, had the Jews overthrown the German government?

Good riddance to all those that burned.

...

...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19

Kikes try to overthrow germany

Get gassed

MUH HOLOCAUST

Yes, lets forget these criminal scum pieces of Jew shit were going to murder Germans; Lets ignore the fact they committed crimes - Hitler was a monster for not allowing Germany's Bolshevik revolution!

>ww2history.com/experts/David_Cesarani/Hitler_s_decisions_about_the_Jews

bump

bump

"select all images with a gas station" - how fitting.

Why did the gas chambers use wooden doors?

If the holocaust happened, why are there still so many hook-nosed kikes running around ruining nations? Checkmate hebrews.

K
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GAS GAS GAS

Nearing the end of the third reich why did the Nazis keep alot of the jews alive? If what they wanted to do was to eliminate them why did they waste time and resources keep them alive? Why didnt they just kill them originally?

>argumentum ad populum
yawn

>Man you really are shit at debating.
This. The only reason even posted in the first place is because he's on the far left side of this representation.

>When leeches are inferior yet they get all their nutrients without effort

>gave us his weakness
take him down boi's

Hardly any white nationalist claims Jews are inferior. Rather, they claim they are scum. They might even admit that Jews are highly intelligent, but they nefariously abuse their power and need to have it taken away.

But why do I even bother replying? You're just going to keep your opinions like a proper fucking retard.

they used their labor and skills

if the Holocaust did not happen, there would've been more Jews today, of course

they did not

>People don't like other people by default, I guess
yes, good answer goy, everyone is racist!

AHHAHAHAHAAH

fuckoutahere

why are there laws against holocaust denial in many countries? it's almost like they don't want you to do your own research, and instead just trust what you've been taught with no evidence

>you need to accept (((us))) for your own benefit

Liying kike