LOL. Mother Russia has banned Jehovah's Witnesses

LOL. Mother Russia has banned Jehovah's Witnesses

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Good.

Yea. They are dangerous extremist

Based mother Russia

>'M-mother Russia so based!'
>Doesn't fucking ban Islam

What is even point of this group? They are walking home to home and talk shit no one wants to listen to.

having those motherfuckers in walking around your country is also dangerous because they always carry a suitcase, thing about it, is the perfect disguise to carry move stuff.

Also potential assassins could also disguise as them.

So they ban them and not Islam? Is this some kind of joke.

You cant ban a religion like islam, when a good chunk of the Caucasian/central asian Muslims would just become extremists.

>IMPLYING THEY ARENT ALLREADY

A daily reminder that chechnya is a sovereign nation

All Semitic religion should be punishable by death.

Assassins may disguise as ordinary people.... Not to attract attention

Very good move. JW, Russellites, are a poison. I would ban them also.

it's a traditional religion for at least 14.5 millions of Russian natives and it's been like that for centuries. so not an option

> I would ban
Good thing you are not in politics.

There can only be one church, controlled by the police state!

>would

we have two ;^)

>14.5 million
That isn't too many. Soviets could do that in an afternoon, don't be bitches.

FBI/CIA masquerade as JW all the time that's why. They go to specific homes to build a more complete profile of people they need intel on -- gauge behavior, mannerisms, personality type, etc.

comparing your masonic sect from pennsylvania with one of the major world religions is really a bit of stretch, jw. and i'm pretty sure that posting on Sup Forums is grounds for disfellowship

Hey guys i spoted the butthurt Chechen

Still mad about the second Chechen war mudslime?

do you really want a people in your country who will go "extremist" the moment you ban them?

JeW

>walk home to home, spreading lies
ftfy

In Russia there is the largest mosque in Europe

Guess what's happend to them. Banning something this big and powerful with the current Middle East situation isn't the wisest thing. Corrupting and doing other jewish arts might be ways more efficient

I wouldnt ban Islam

I'd just put all these nice Muslims in nice comfy parks in Siberia, where they can do "voluntary" work for the state.

>86% of chechens budget comes from "donation" and government programms
>Chechnya doesnt obey Russias laws
>Chechnya doesnt obey constitution
>Kadirov has his own army
>Acknowledging facts makes you traitor

Really makes you think

I don't know what they are spreading, I have never let them into my home.

JW is the most Based religion and they are non-violent. Such a stupid thing to ban and kill members of a peaceful religion. JW's are among the nicest people on earth if you ever talked to one. They have strong family values and shun degenerate behavior like sex before marriage, drugs, excess alcohol, and homosexuals. If you have one a good pretty girl with strong family values who are virgins, you need to get a JW women. They also strictly follow all laws by the government unless it's one that stops them worshipping Jehovah the one true god.

base ruski

If the Chechens do anything stupid, then Russia would just roll up tanks in Grozny and pacify the region.

Enjoy your """""freedom""""" and """"""""""""prosperity""""""""""""" while you can.

They have a bastardized version of the bible and spread their false Gospel to anyone who doesn't know any better.

what would you do with the jews?

Russel (Jw's founder) was a mason

pretty based, nah?

I'd ship them all to Israel. Every single one on the entire planet.

Then trow 4 nukes on the shithole and the surrounding area.

And nothing of value would be lost.

It's the true form of the bible that JW preach. You and your pedo preachers are the false prophets allowing degenerate behavior and homosexuals. You are from a corrupt religion that gives money to the greedy jew christians in the Vatican.

youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk

Where would you get nukes from? I don't see jewsa nuking their overlords.

>Slovenian intellectual
wow. You know nothing about chcechen wars.

So WE """won""" second war and now WE pay former terrorist (who happens to be leader of Chechen republic) from federal budget?

Well, this happens all the time! Pacified regions dont have to obey central government, nor do they have to conscript soldiers to Russian army, nor do they have to ban slavery.

They are dangerous extremist. In Europe we have a lots of suicides cases for for that sect

Dickhead

>being this delusional
they won't do anything stupid if you give them money constantly, they are sort of gang which keep your store safe from other gangs

They are pretty redpilled IMO. They call out a lot of the bullshit in Christianity, especially Catholicisim. They know Christmas and Easter has pagan roots, the Trinity is Babylonian garbage, and so on.

Fuck JW. Can't even have a birthday party.

A daily reminder that Chechnya is the fucking cesspit pool of Russia, but is nonetheless Russian. End your pitiful existence, Abu-Bakr

All christian's tradition are pagans

Kadyrov and Putin are bff and cooperate with each other to retain as much power as possible. Why would anything ever happen when Chechens already have everything?

>it's the true form of the bible that JW preach
Top fucking kek.

They remove scripture from the bible that goes against their narrative. They twist bible verses to go along with their narrative. It's all lies.

>You are from a corrupt religion that gives money to the greedy jew christians in the Vatican.
You know nothing about me. And I tell you I do not follow idolatry that is the corrupted Roman Catholic Church.

>but is nonetheless Russian
t. kansas intellectual

So russian, you cant find alcohol there.

I'd use Russian nukes

Dont you know that Kadyrov is basically a pawn of Putin? Putin is giving Chechnya autonomy to repair the relations, because he dosent want more Chechen extremists shooting up schools/hospitals all over Russia.

I was just telling the other guy that Chechnya is firmly under Russian control and that the moment some jihadists get any power there, that the central government would crush them.

I don't see a """" chechen """" seat in the U.N., Ahmed. Lmao Russia give you shitskins an inch of autonomy so you stop pestering them, and you faggots parade around like you actually won something.

You can't say shit about education you dumb fucking subhuman sheepshagger.

>JW's are among the nicest people on earth if you ever talked to one. They have strong family values and shun degenerate behavior like sex before marriage, drugs, excess alcohol, and homosexuals.
That's funny most of the ones I knew were depressed drunks, almost half were on anti-depressants. My favorite time was when I was working for a JW relative and wasn't getting paid for some reason, I hacked his email account only to find hed been blowing the companies money on hookers. At least he wasn't raping kids I guess.

I hate JHs but this is just the Eastern Orthodox Church continuing what the Catholic Church did a thousand years ago. The idol worshipers don't like the competition from the crazy cultist protestants.

>first read it as jew.org
>then realized a jew would obviously be .com

you're from australia . 100% of your population is nothing but low class drug addicts and thots

except for you can
it's not. Chechnya is firmly under Kadyrov's control and he is the only real power in the region that fucks up jihadists

Go fuck yourself, and stop ringing to my goddamn doorphone, I don't give a shit about your religion.

The incessant wave of JW shilling and brainwashed zombies like this had only proved that their cult is actually dangerous. Much more akin to Aum Shinrikyo and Heaven's Gate than Scientology.

This

>I hate JHs but this is just the Eastern Orthodox Church continuing what the Catholic Church did a thousand years ago. The idol worshipers don't like the competition from the crazy cultist protestants.
I wonder why they hate them? They react almost as if the JWs go around telling everyone the other churches are run by the devil and god will kill them all soon. Such mystery.

Who gets the oil and oil profits? That's the only valuable part of Chechnya.

Every fucking Chechen could die and no one in Russia would notice. It's only when they fuck with the oil that the Russian Army shows up to pound their asses.

Fuck with the oil again. I DARE YOU.

Can I get a job oppressing them in Russia? I feel I have a good resume for such a job.

...

Yes. Jehovah Witnesses are truly ruining Russia

Pretty sure that you can join the Russian military as a foreigner.

They preach the truth about the bible as every christian should.

>masonic
I dont think you know this word you just used

actually quite hated in Israel too, despite being persecuted by the Nazis back in the day.
For them they dont like that they are christians.

You should check their translation personally instead of repeating long refuted talking points. Its freely available on jw.org

Yeah no.
Also: proofs pls.

Well you can simply stop claiming to be a christian and celebrate all the Birthdays you want, but the facts are that those celebrations are deeply rooted in paganism

Actually no. Unless you mean the apocrypha.
Just check out the translation and find those "omitted" or twisted parts.
The whole reason of existence back in the 19th century that the group of bible students was tired of the churches doing the twisting and omitting and isntead tried to approach the bible objectively and unprejudiced, to let the bible tell them what was the truth instead of forcing their version of truth on the bible.

proofs pls.
It would go against everything in the bible to behave in such a way.

the truth can be hard to handle sometimes.

I've seen first hand the effects this religion has on families because it has severely fucked over many members of my own family I care about. And the knock on effects have fucked over many more. It is the religious embodiment of big fish in a very small pond syndrome. Pure fucking evil. Any religion that puts family second is wrong. A bunch of power hungry weak men in cheap suits ordering around vulnerable families. It is absolute poison of the soul and of individuality, and if any of you have kids in this religion that are part of your family, you have a moral and ethical obligation to do anything in your power to help them out of it. With or without the support of the legal system. Pure fucking evil.

Long live the based motherland!

Could you point out the parts of the bible or of the JW literature that causes the "severe fucking over" of your family?

Or what exactly the "knock on" effects exactly are?

If they are indeed pure evil, then there are two possibilities: either they are not following the bible, or they are and the bible is pure evil.
Which one seems more realistic to you?

>They preach the truth about the bible as every christian should.
Tell me which part of the core 1914 doctrine that was based on numerology, magic and loosely inspired by Crowley is part of the bible?

wait, i'm new here, but i think i know who did it. probably the jews.

Yeahhhh... They accept the Dead Sea scrolls. Meaning that they subscribe to the idea that God kept his word hidden for 20 centuries, when they were dug up.

Also, they believe in a translated bible that uses phrases like "slimey juice of a marshmallow" found in Job 6:6 per their 1984 printed copies. Yeah, no. God doesn't speak to his people like that. Get a clue, dude.

>Any religion that puts family second is wrong
That's all of them you tard, it's kind of the point

>they are not following the bible, or
The obvious one...

Why don't those cucks ban Jizzlam while they're at it?
Oh right, 20% of their population is Mudshit.

The bible is not an ethical document on its own. Interpretations thereof can be arbitrarily immoral and un-sane, leading to stifled cognitive development by memetic inbreeding in families that constrain themselves to any fundamental ideology without recourse to evidence, and critical-thinking discernment of good or bad ideas, behaviours and practices.

Job 6:6 reads:
>Is tasteless food eaten without salt,

>Or is there flavor in the juice of a mallow?

The explanation form "Insights into the scriptures" says this:
In times of famine, the marshmallow’s white carrotlike root has been used for food. The sole Scriptural reference to the marshmallow alludes to its tastelessness.—Job 6:6.

The Hebrew term chal·la·muthʹ, found only at Job 6:6, has been variously rendered “egg” (AS, KJ), “purslain” (AT), and, as defined in a Hebrew and Aramaic lexicon by L. Koehler and W. Baumgartner, “marsh-mallow” (Lexicon in Veteris Testamenti Libros, Leiden, 1958, p. 304).

I do not see the problem with that to be honest.

Actually JWs were not the only one at that time to correctly figure out that Gods kingdome would start to reign in 1914.

The long version:
jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/

>Dead Sea scrolls
I think you misunderstand why they were significant. They did not add anything new to the Bible, on the contrary, they proved that nothing had been mistranslated in over 2000 years, showing that any claim of "The bible has been changed" was baseless.

I honestly dont know if you are taking drugs which you shouldnt or if you are not taking drugs which you should.

The interpretations that are immoral and unsane will not be coherent. Only the correct one will be.
This is why JWs reject the trinity for example: If you interpret the beginning of John as proof for it, this contradicts the rest of the bible in multiple cases. Its only by correctly interpreting it that those contradictions dissapear.

>wait, i'm new here, but i think i know who did it. probably the jews.
No they hate jews, they actually supported national socialism and Hitler but then Hitler gassed them anyway as a prank. Now they always try to steal holocaust sympathy points from the jews and run around screaming about "muh purple triangles". I'm surprised they haven't tried to claim the holocaust was mostly JWs but people kept writing jews by accident.

>jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/
>The Bible provides the way to determine the length of those prophetic >“seven times.” It says that three and a half “times” equal 1,260 days, so >“seven times” equal twice that number, or 2,520 days.

I seem to be missing the part of the bible where it provides mathematical equations and codes was it a preorder bonus? Perhaps you could explain to me how they came up with these numbers based on only a few scriptures that say nothing like that?

fucking jws

I was actually raised a JW and it's a piece of shit religion and I hated it but I don't see a real reason to ban it they're not violent or anything they're just stupid as fuck and very strict in their stupid fucking beliefs.

It can be found, among others, in Numbers:

>According to the number of the days that you spied out the land, 40 days, a day for a year, a day for a year, you will answer for your errors 40 years, for you will know what it means to oppose me.
Numbers 13:34.

And Ezekiel 4:6:
>And you must complete them. “Then for a second time you will lie down, on your right side, and you will carry the guilt of the house of Judah+ for 40 days. A day for a year, a day for a year, is what I have given you

You know those texts are cited in the article I linked, you can just click on them.
Or you look them up in your own bible (even better) to see that there was no omission or twisting ton the part of JW.

forgot the picture of course

No. Look at the 1984 print. It says "slimey juice of a MARSHMALLOW"

God's word is infallible, therefore it should never be changed. So I pose the question, why has the NWT been scrubbed and revised and put forth like nothing happened?

To cover up obvious mistakes? So they don't look like a joke?

Who then was Isaiah prophesizing about in 6:9? When he says born of a virgin, will have many names, one of which is MIGHTY GOD.

Oh, but he's not the ALMIGHTY God, right? As if there is a fucking difference.

Good for you certain scripture remains. 1Timothy 3:16...for he manifested himself in the flesh...

>You know those texts are cited in the article I linked, you can just click on them.
>Or you look them up in your own bible (even better) to see that there was no omission or twisting ton the part of JW.
There's absolutely nothing to suggest those are somehow magic codes that when taken out of context apply to different books in the bible. Seeing as there's no logical way anyone could read those scriptures and interpret as a secret code that applies elsewhere in the bible could you tell me how they actually came up with those numbers?

Also the date listed for Jerusalems destruction is also incorrect on that website.

nice no more faggot calling to your door at 17:00

Seriously? Your whole criticism is about one single word whose translation is unclear and which is translated differently in every translation of the Bible, even the non-JW ones?

You do realize that the original text has not changed, yes? The hebrew word is still the same, we are just not 100% certain how to translate it.
Let me quote the whole article:

MARSHMALLOW

[Heb., chal·la·muthʹ].

A perennial plant that is closely related to the hollyhock. The woody stems of the marshmallow (Althaea officinalis) measure up to 1.8 m (6 ft) in height. The plant’s large, wide leaves are notched and terminate in a sharp point. Both the stems and the leaves are covered with soft downy hair. The pale-pink, five-petal flowers are about 5 cm (2 in.) across. In times of famine, the marshmallow’s white carrotlike root has been used for food. The sole Scriptural reference to the marshmallow alludes to its tastelessness.—Job 6:6.

The Hebrew term chal·la·muthʹ, found only at Job 6:6, has been variously rendered “egg” (AS, KJ), “purslain” (AT), and, as defined in a Hebrew and Aramaic lexicon by L. Koehler and W. Baumgartner, “marsh-mallow” (Lexicon in Veteris Testamenti Libros, Leiden, 1958, p. 304).

The NWT was revised multiple times, it was never a secret, in fact it was "advertised" as revised edition. The last revision was in 2013.

>Who then was Isaiah prophesizing about in 6:9? When he says born of a virgin, will have many names, one of which is MIGHTY GOD.
God simply means "powerful one" the bible even says that there are many Gods. Just one almighty God.
Another text:
The god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.” (2 Corinthians 4:4)

>1st Timothy 3:16
This talks about Jesus, not God:

why would there be a magic code?
Magic and the Bible dont mix.
The bible is not some mathematical formula.

There is a logical way: proof: The bible students (now JWs) and other groups figured it out 140 years ago.

>Also the date listed for Jerusalems destruction is also incorrect on that website.
That is actually the correct date, the date in history books is the wrong one, it is based on a Babylonian chronic of Kings which omits real Kings and invents some that never existed. This is well known but for some reason no one decided to correct the date because that would mean admitting that the Bible is right, a big no-no in a highly political science like history.

>They also strictly follow all laws by the government unless it's one that stops them worshipping Jehovah the one true god.
Pols reaction: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

>I hate JHs but this is just the Eastern Orthodox Church continuing what the Catholic Church did a thousand years ago. The idol worshipers don't like the competition from the crazy cultist protestants.

yeah, orthodoxy is a state worship religion. same goes for many catholic countries.

>This is why JWs reject the trinity for example

where do you fit the Holy Spirit in then? Its pretty clear he is not a force.

The holy spirit is not a person, it is the force of God.
At no point is the holy spirit called a person or given any attributes of a person, not even a name.
To not only assume that he is a person but also equal to both God and Jesus is unbiblical.

jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-the-holy-spirit/

>not seeing the irony

>Ban a religion based entirely on 'extreme' pacifism.
>Don't ban the religion that regularly bombs your trains.
>W-we're fighting ex-extremism!

Putin is a cuck.

>The holy spirit is not a person, it is the force of God.

1st chapter of the Bible and there are plenty of verses in the NT made by Jesus about Holy Spirit

>The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

Its pretty clear that what is refered to as Spirit of God is smth/smo that is autonomous.

>Posting a picture that is literally contradicting itself.

Are you retarded?

>the game's level was formless and void ... and my mouse cursor was moving over the surface of the level

Does that make the mouse cursor of every game designer a person?

>There is a logical way: proof: The bible students (now JWs) and other groups figured it out 140 years ago.
So tell me how did they figure out those codes back then? The bible clearly does not say "jesus is gonna become kangz in 1914 in shit because it's 2520 years and shit" obviously if you're multiplying time periods in bible verses by other numbers you're implying it's a fucking mathematical code.


>That is actually the correct date, the date in history books is the wrong one, it is based on a Babylonian chronic of Kings which omits real Kings and invents some that never existed. This is well known but for some reason no one decided to correct the date because that would mean admitting that the Bible is right, a big no-no in a highly political science like history.
The bible doesn't list any dates in the first place dummy. You can't just move historical figures like babylonian kings around by 20 years, it would be like saying Obama was president in 1988, there's no shortage of detailed information regarding leaders in that period of history.

There are multitudes of verses that explicitly point out God is Jesus. I don't have my bible with me. Maybe in John* "for there are three who bear witness: the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are ONE"

Again, there are more. But you won't find them in your adultered bible or on your propaganda website.