What's wrong with United states of Europe? Do you have arguments against it? Do mind, insults aren't arguments

What's wrong with United states of Europe? Do you have arguments against it? Do mind, insults aren't arguments

if you don't mind your sovereign country having the relevancy of a US state then you don't deserve freedom

>muh you're going to lose your sovereignty
EU exists so we can work together as a continent. So what if we lose a little bit of our independence? It's for the greater good

Yes, endless wars. Worldwide destruction.

One too many cucks in higher ranks of some of those "states" I guess.

And how this is going magically going to happen? We work together in EU, don't fight each other

I'm fighting to destroy the EU.

>so what if we lose a bit of our independence
opinion discarded. if you don't value freedom you don't deserve it

I'm sure few angry posts in Sup Forums counts as "destroying the EU"
You're not doing anything. Now get your ass to work

>Having EU currency
>Being this much of a cultureless bitch

Immigration.

Petty insults. Sad!

Shit up this board as much as possible to keep the Negroes contained here.

Having different opinion is "shitting up" this board? This isn't your safe space, darling

I'm replying you with useless comments while already knowing what you're going to say, all for the purpose of shitting up this board and wasting your time. I hope you also enjoy reading this, I hope you also enjoy reading this.

The European Union is the Fourth Reich. This time the Germans conquered Europe through "trade and inclusiveness." Prove me wrong, pro-tip you can't.

except the fact that we're not xenophobes anymore. Hitler was an idiot, we know better now than back then

You mean arabian states of eurafrica?

The Germans did it right this time. After going to war several times.

how is that not valuing freedom i don't get it?
he still has the right to vote equal to other euros hes not getting annexed by a foreign invader without any rights is he
it's like saying if youre not for texas independence then you don't value freedom

I don't want a United States of Europe because that's just another Super-State we'll have to fight. Likely Socialist, too, considering the current nature of the EU.

In the age of information and instant communication we do not need a strong Fed. The Federal government should exist for the protection of the State and to hold private entites/foreign governments accountable to hold up their end of the bargain on our deals. And, obviously, the head of the Federal government, the President or equivalent of the President, still has a check on the legislators and a hand in appointing judges.

>I don't want a United States of Europe because that's just another Super-State we'll have to fight
Competition has been healthy for you, though. See cold war, you actually had to improve so you wouldn't get eaten by USSR

>Likely socialist, too
memes

for muh cuntry:

- gibzmedatz create enormous corruption and promote smug cuntz instead of hardworking people

- terrible demographics, we are literally dying out

- death of local culture

- again gibsmedats - they are wasted on inane shit

- brain drain

- unelected bureaucrats in Brussels... - that kind of argument

- Slavs not completely white

>some unelected people in a foreign country dictates how you will run your country
I dunno man, how is wanting the exact opposite of freedom not valuing freedom?

Thats exactly why I want a European super state. To piss off the 56%,

The establishment of another super-state would take a toll on potential asylum seekers as well. As national soveriengty is eroded, there will be less places for peaceful, constructive political dissidents to escape.

>memes

You're obviously a fucking kike if you can't see that the EU's current administration and action is Socialist.

>competition is healthy for you

True. So that's why we encourage strong nationalism everywhere.

>Says the goy from the US where they have zero soveringty.
You have been cucked for so long you forget what freedom is. Keep saluting that federal flag.

I'm sorry but we've been a United Republic since our birth. No reason to eradicate it right now. However, the Union is in dire need of revision in regards to priorities, and, to be frank, in need of legislative revolution that will give more powers back to the States.

The issue is our population has forgotten that we are a Union of sovereign states, largely because of the Federal takeover of education and the economy, among other things. People are stupid and don't give a fuck.

We have too many goddamn communists, for fucks sake we are losing historical monuments now .

Sounds like you aspire to be more like the EU. Thats good.

BECAUSE I AINT LETTING NO MERKEL BITCH TELLING ME WHAT TO DO.

There are to many cultures and different languages. There are no way it will work. The people are to different.

>What's wrong with United states of Europe?

They are promoting a lot of degenerate things.

Because it constists of many nation states with different history, language and culture. Not even close to being similar with the US, which is a nation built from scratch with the same language.

EU is the same as having a world government but on a smaller scale. Anyone supporting it is both retarded and enemy of any smart person.

>ITT: what is Greence and how were they historically relevant?

Europe is just an assortment of jews that come in different ethnicities. The only time I ever felt like people were actually different was when I went to Paris, Italy and north Africa. That leaves a lot of similarly minded Europeans.

remind me again, why you are a country?

...especially one that kept expanding westward and made the clause of a state that joined can never leave again?

I desire the States to remain true to themselves. Meaning, remain true to the Will of the People. But we're still a Union and we have to come together on national matters, such as defense of the continent, trade with foreign nations, international politicking, immigration, etc.

>unelected people in a foreign country

please explain, ameriburger.

I wouldn't mind one, and realistically I see it as the best option for Europe if it wants to survive and be successful in the future.

It would have to be heavily federalised and have 99% of the decisions made at a sub-national, local level. Major decisions such as those to do with defence etc. would be made at the top. The federal government would have to be restricted massively and have it's duties clearly defined and mapped out, so that it would be extremely small yet very strong (it would be able to carry out said limited duties very efficiently, without pointless parliaments and debates and so on.

The new federation would need to be based on Europe and her traditions, and would most importantly be completely ethnocentric, after all what is 'Europe' if not her peoples. Market capitalism would be allowed to run (relatively) unimpeded within her borders, her currency would have to be gold backed, not a fiat. Protectionism would be necessary when trading with the outside world. The EU of today puts hold up the economy as god while it destroys the peoples who that economy was meant to serve, it's totally insane.

I don't know how the top leadership of the federation would be chosen, I like LARPing as a monarchist and so would like to see some kind of hereditary leadership, a family drawn from the best of each country, but I don't know how anyone would go about setting that up in practice.

Remember this my friend; our income tax started extremely low. They gradually increased it more and more.

You're opening a can of worms you don't want to open. The Rothschilds want this. Central banking wants this.

Finns have slave mentality, that's why they love EU.

enjoy your pakis. they aint leaving even if you make nigel your PM

>and would most importantly be completely ethnocentric

????

Based