LIQUID JEW

Just seen some amerishart asking how he can stop drinking the liquid Jew with a photo of fizzy drinks like Coke, fanta, Pepsi and whatever else you guys have


How do I stop drinking the REAL liquid Jew?

>How do I stop drinking the REAL liquid Jew?
Just don't drink it

OY VEY GOLDEN KOLA

Did it really need a separate thread, tho?

This is a 100% Peruvian soft-dri...
> is a soft drink that was created in Peru in 1935 by British immigrant Joseph (or sometimes José) Robinson Lindley
>Robinson Lindley
>(((Lindley)))
OY VEY

Alcohol addiction is way more savage than just being able to switch to a diet Coke

Drink ones with non-caffeine for start. It's the caffeine that keeps you drinking it. When you start drinking non-caffeine ones, after a while you can stop drinking it and you won't get those caffeine headaches.

If you don't like plain water then drink vitamin water or white milk. So far I've been off of the liquid Jew for a little over a year. Once in a while I'll slip and drink it because I might've ran out of vitamin water or milk but that's like 2 cans at best.

You got the wrong end of the stick mate

I'm saying alcohol addiction is way more of a physical and mental addiction compared to caffeine/sugary drinks

powerade zero or seltzer if you absolutely need a treat. black coffee for caffeine

milk and vitamin water are good for getting fat only

OP: if you absolutely can't kick liquor, do acid one time. it is not a hippy meme cure.

I have done acid twice with a bunch of mates and we had loads of beers while we did it, I'm not sure what you mean mate

Sorry, didn't read the rest of the post and I never seen alcohol in bottles like pic-related so I assume this was still about soda.

>tfw I have a fast metabolism thanks to child years and I never really exceed past 200 pounds

Recovering alcoholic here.

1. Hit rock bottom
2. Go to detox
3. Meet people who have been in and out of rehab for 30 years
4. Decide you don't want to be like that
5. Go to AA(If you want, I went for only three months because fuck that garbage)
6. Stay sober. It's hard but the trick to staying sober is by not associating yourself with friends that drink, or alcohol whatsoever
7. Recognize triggers and combat cravings. You will realize when you're having one and you can divert your attention. You must realize that cravings are the addicted portion of your brain trying to trick the normal part of your brain into drinking(It's all BS, this is one of the most important factors in staying sober)

Alcohol withdrawal is hard, but it's the easiest part of getting sober. If you feel like you can't cold turkey safely, go to the hospital and get some withdrawal meds.

That's because the only booze sold in 3 liter bottles like that are for hardcore alcoholics

It claims to be 7.5% white cider but I promise you it has never seen an apple in its life mate

google some studies on lsd and alcoholism. all i have is my personal experience, but i drank a lot, thought about drinking throughout the day every day, and then it was like a switch was flipped

Once you go through hardcore delirium tremens you'll never want to hallucinate again.

I hate to advocate drug use but in certain instances it can be effective, get yourself about ten klonopan (sp?) or xanax if you are a true alcohol. The withdrawel is nothing to joke about, you can have a potentially fatal seizure so I urge you to use that medicine and stay plenty hydrated for 3-5 days.

well, yeah at that point you need to be detoxed under full-time medical surveillance. that's extreme.

>somehow transparent cider at 7.5% acohol
what the fuck is that shit, mouthwash?

You MUST get a prescription for it and follow the doctors orders. After withdrawing a few times I got addicted to benzo's, which have pretty much the same withdrawal as alcohol, but longer.

Then I had to cold turkey benzo withdrawal because there's really nothing you can take for that.

I wish I knew.

Only thing that helps for me is working out and staying busy.

Nah, I got lucky at the time. 30mg of diazepam did nothing but I had a few swigs of booze left. Helped me through the first night without having a seizure, then the diazepam worked well enough the next day.

As I said, this "white cider" has never seen an apple in its life

I've removed it almost completely from my diet. First I tried to find low-calorie alternatives to the regular stuff, and managed to settle on a few that didn't taste like anus. Then I moved on to seltzers, without much loss in taste. Now I mostly drink water. It took about 1 year. Just wean yourself off slowly by finding equivalent replacements.

I don't know what that is or why it's blue. Here's some Zeiglers Cider

I lift in the day then drink when I'm done if I'm not at work, I'll drink before/during work since I drink so much I won't be drunk just feeling normal

Literally just start drinking water

The bottle is blue, the cider is clear/kinda yellow

How much a day are you up to? At my worst I was drinking about 900 ml a day of 40% whiskey with a few beers. Not as much as others but I was only 130 pounds at the time.

Whao.

I'm definitely not at that level. My issue is that I can rarely stop if I start drinking.

If you're at the point where you're sick if you're not drinking you need to just accept where you're at and go to detox.

I don't know how old you are but you are gonna die very young if you're taking in that much booze. If you don't die young you'll be sick for years.

>Frosty Jacks

How many times have you been on Jeremy Kyle, lad?

12 beers easy or a liter of hard liquor but I stay away from vodka, if im low on cash I'll be drinking 3 liters of hard cider, only 3.99 down the offy

I wait outside if there's someone in there because I don't like people seeing me buy the cider lol, everyone knows only alcoholics buy that shit

this thread's about being an alchy? didn't realize. Maybe try limiting it to social occasions? I dunno, I rarely drink, I do jerk off and browse Sup Forums compulsively but those don't require leaving a shop and paying money, nor can I scoot off to a bathroom and do it suddenly in public or at work

I'm 23

>everyone knows only alcoholics buy that shit

Yeah, but you are a fucking alcoholic m8. My mother was one and did shit like this, hid bottles, etc.

that was my issue. i could easily go a week without drinking. if i had 2-3 drinks, though, i was following that with another 12-16 drinks every time. then i'd drink to alleviate the hangover symptoms.

the only thing is to avoid the first drink. your addict brain will trick you a million different ways to justify continued drinking.

I only watch jezza to remind myself my life ain't THAT shit yet

This is why I like these threads. I always feel like a worthless faggot on mondays because I put away about 15 beers and a couple shots of liquor on the weekend. Then I read about people going through more than an entire fifth of whiskey every day and I dont feel so bad.

You just have to have always something that prevents you from drinking. I have no problem staying sober during weeks when there is work because drinking would be a huge mistake. But in the weekends it's different, no reason to abstain and nothing good to do.

There's only one question you have to answer:

Do you really want to quit? Like, REALLY want to quit? Are you ready to go through withdrawal? Are you ready to change your entire life around? Are you ready to ask for a few weeks off from work to deal with the withdrawal?

If you are, go to the hospital RIGHT NOW. They will give you meds for it and you can make it through withdrawal. Then you can focus on actually getting better.

I'm 5 years sober in May. I have a super addictive personality.

This is my issue. I feel pressured to drink in certain social situations. That's maybe once every week or 2 if not longer. When I start there is no stopping until I black the fuck out.

No matter how many times I say I'm gonna just have 2 drinks, I cannot stop.

As hard as it is to believe, I'm good with the women I'm not some basement virgin, but if everyone I know knew about my drinking I wouldn't have any birds trying on with me which I like obviously

Also it's pretty degenerate and shameful being such an alcoholic like me

Don't worry, your close friends and family know, probably your coworkers as well.

You likely reek like booze 24/7, just like I did.

clean fresh water (not that tap water shit that turns your pineal gland into chalk) is the liquid aryan

Looks delicious

The smell is worse than the taste

Sounds exactly right. How did you finally quit? I think I'm at the point I'm ready to stop. Also in my 30s now and getting worried about the damage.

That's young to be hitting it that hard. When I was that age I didn't even really get hangovers. If I were you I'd throw in the towel and give it up. If you're going that hard now on a daily basis your future is bleak.

>Also it's pretty degenerate and shameful being such an alcoholic like me

Every alcoholic would ideally hide it, unless they're so fucked up they can't. I do think being deeply humiliated over it weakens your ability to avoid drinking though

Frosty Jack's super-strength cider 'health hazard' and should be 'taken off the shelves'

Sounds like chav fuel
I'm jealous
> I have issues

Start smoking

Good for you man (in a non-sarcastic way). I occasionally quit for a few weeks and always feel awesome after about a month. 5 years must feel amazing. My best friend and I just enjoy getting drunk on the weekends while working on cars too much to give it up totally.

Sounds legit. Theres a million craving situations tho

Best soda coming through.

I have a good job and friends, my drinking isn't dragging me down in that sense

99%of my drinking is when I'm by myself just watching news and shit, I can't lie I did have 2 gfs get rid of me because of it, but only because I let them get super close and see the real me, I'm just as good at acting like a functional member of society as I am at drinking

i didn't intend on quitting because i had everything together in terms of work, my physique, my lady and although it was clearly a problem, as long as it wasn't making me fat i was fine ignoring it. did acid with an old friend and toward the end of the day i started having terrible anxiety like i could feel scar tissue on my liver exiting in my urine. i know how stupid that sounds but that was the exact sensation and it freaked me out. never wanted to drink again. i have a few times, years after that event, but the taste makes me gag and i just get a headache.

i realize this is unhelpful, but since you asked! good luck

Damn so Peru hasn't given the world anything since freaking machu pichu?? Kinda selfish, g.
I love inca kola, so i guess I'm supporting the eternal (((anglo))) now

I do smoke, drinks to wet without a fag mate

Recovering alcoholic here.
Coming off the booze is horrible. I help the support of an addictions social worker. She helped me a lot but in the end it was my willpower. I was drinking a litre to a litre and a half of vodka per day. I lost my job, driving license, had money problems.

I'll describe some of the symptoms of cold turkey :
uncontollable shaking - not just trembling hands. I could barely stand up straight.
Nightmares beyond horror. Really nasty stuff.
Sleeplessness for weeks after stopping.
Hallucinations both visual and auditory.
Sweating all the time, feeling cold all the time.
Close to suicide.

I started drinking hard after my wife died suddenly and I was the sole carer for our child.
I knew I had to sort this shit out and went to my GP. SHe prescribed valium for the initail symptoms and said that I could die if I just stopped immediately. I said that I wanted to stop immediately, so she get me a social worker. There are various 24hour helplines too. I was told that if I started to get convulsions to call emergency services straight away.
The social worker was invaluable. She called every day and visited me at home every week.
I've been 100% dry now for almost two years.
Social pressure is what I struggle with now; weddings, birthdays, going to the pub with my friends.
"go on, user. You can have just one. Go on - I'l buy. etc etc.
Addiction is terrible. I would certainly have died had I not sought help.

Eventually you just learn to deal with them. They get less and less frequent. Daily, weekly, monthly etc.

I asked this in the sugary Jew thread, but you seem pretty knowledgeable about this. How rough do you think my withdrawal will be if I'm averaging 10-12 drinks per night? I almost always drink light beer/pisswater. Some nights I drink only 6, and every week I take 1-2 days off from drinking. Am I safe to go cold turkey on this?

Sugar helps a bit with alc cravings yeah

I wouldn't say all that, if he detoxes with 4 mg for day one and 3 days tapering down he will not form any sort of addiction.

Question for you.
When I overdo drinking (which is often) I have no interest in drinking the next day cause I'm so hungover.

So how do you just drink another bottle? Are you sick all the time?

Did you have liver pain?
Were you losing weight?

Yes, if you already go a couple of days a week without drinking then you'll be fine.

i'll let that dude answer but i'm sure you're in the clear, easily. i wouldn't expect any withdrawal symptoms at that amount of consumption.

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>How do I stop drinking the REAL liquid Jew?
The only real cure for Frosty Jack's is death. Although you could move to a place where they don't sell it and do ok.

If you've never tried AA, then do. Look up where your nearest group is and go. It's not for everybody, but it helped me.

This ____ Jew shit is useless, annoying, and distracting from the real issues at hand

Jew detected.

It's a mystery why some people become fully dependent. It may be their livers or how their usage progresses.

Typically if you're drinking in the morning it seems to change shit.

I've been looking into it and there are several different kinds of alcoholics and it looks like they all need to stop differently

former alky here.

i quit because i got arrested and i realized that i was about to throw my life away. it happened overnight and i haven't really had the urge to drink since. you can't force that epiphany and no amount of AA/support groups (IMHO) will supplant that.

there's a constant thread on /ck/ for alcoholics; you should go there.
>>/ck/thread/8842458

Nesquik

I was drinking a Bottle of Coke a day
Without it I would get headaches
Water,tea,coffee anything else would give me headaches

A nice cold glass of milk with nesquik does the job though. Not only is it the best alternative, it's fucking superior costs less and has vitamins n shit

For me there is only nesquik that can replace it. I still buy a few cans for if I want fast food and fast drink but otherwise I just make em. 10-20 second stir and your good

user you never tried this... the source of a evil, the biggest liquid jew of all time.

I would say spirits are worse that beer, simply because of higher alcohol content.
What works for one person may not work for you as we're all different.

You will definitely get some symptoms. Maybe hand tremors and insomnia. But who knows until you actually stop?
I would always advise talking to a professional - your doctor will put you in touch with a specialist addictions therapist.
I don't know if you have to pay for this in America. In UK, we don't. But there will probably be some charitable organisation, I'm sure.
I feel great after stopping. It's really worth it.

Best of luck, user. It's tough, but worth it.

Ignore me

>Not instantly recognising a bottle of Frosty Jack's
JF detected.

it pairs up nice mixed with some rum

As someone who is 100% into cider I'm really intrigued by this bottle. I happen to also drink cheap cider from 1.5L plastic bottles, so I'm really open minded about drinking this. However I only drink pure cider with maybe a little sulfite if absolutely necessary. I hate the stuff with all kinds of stupid additives like sugar or coloring or whatever those made scientists come up with.

btw. pic related is my fav brand, but it's so fucking expensive in my country, that I only drink it on special occasions.

>So how do you just drink another bottle? Are you sick all the time?

The simple answer is that you start drinking again in the morning to take away the hangover.
If you drink in the mornings, that a reliable indidation that you're addicted.
I would have a couple of shots at breakfast most mornings, and acted as if I was perfectly sober.
That's how I lost my license. It was a random drink/driving police check around Christams time. (the cops are fucking red hot on drink driving at the festive period). They pulled me over, took me to the station and tested me again, I was 3 times over the legal limit.
The cops were really kind to me. They gave me tea and toast, information on seeking help and a lift home.(I live in a very remote area). I'm also ex-military, which they respected, had no criminal record and spoke to them in a friendly and respectful way. The cop who took me home shook my hand and wished me well. Fucking hell, the female officer who took my prints (it was on a fancy computer) even said that she likes it when men look after their fingernails. Then she made a joke about how she can tell a chav just be fingernail care, and that mine were "nice". WTF??

At the Magistrates' Court I got a £200 fine and a two year driving ban.That was in Summer 2014 so I can drive now. Living in a remote area and not being allowed to drive is a BIG punishment. If I get caught again for drink driving, it's probably 6 months in jail.
>Did you have liver pain?
Not pain; just an awareness that something was wrong - a slight discomfort.
My doc took bloods for LFT (liver function test) and there was some temporary damage. But he said I must stop drinking or I could die.
The liver can heal itself. I have LFTs every 3 months and I'm in the clear.

Men don't drink sweet fizzy drinks, it's for women and children
The only exception is possibly as a mixer and then you're suspect as fuck

>three times the legal limit
>was still able to drive

fucking hell

christ, thats 0.24%. Buddy of mine got caught with that much, told me he was blacked out and only remembers waking up handcuffed to a hospital bed with an IV in his arm

>The simple answer is that you start drinking again in the morning to take away the hangover.
>If you drink in the mornings, that a reliable indidation that you're addicted.

Eh, yes and no. If you do it all the time then definitely, yes. If you're out on a hunting trip or paintball tournament/general vacation type shit and you and your friends have a couple shots/beers when you wake up its not the same thing, just having fun.

>or maybe im a temporary alky sometimes

Insecure manlet detected

How does it feel to want to prove you're manly at every turn? Does it get tiring? Women don't like insecure men.

Shush now, and drink your girlie drink

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to convince you to drink again here. But I'm quite confused why some ex alcoholics pretend that they would immediately start drinking again after some spiked cake or whatnot. I mean you didn't drink because of how much you like to drink, you drank because of a psychological disorder because something shitty happened in your life.

I completely understand that after what you went true, you have absolutely no wish to start drinking again, not even casually. And it's certainly healthy not to drink at all. But this hysteria about it kinda gets on my nerves and I think it's not healthy. Because if you really convince yourself that it's true, it will be certainly true once you drink something by accident.

I have seen people like this who where absolutely strict for years and then one day said fuck it and went straight back and binged out for one or two weeks loosing their job in the process and all. I mean this has nothing to do with physical addiction, this is complete and utter madness and nothing else.

I would add that no two alcoholics are the same.
Some can go a week without booze and gat hammered every weekend.
Some can drink a large glass of wine with a meal each night (which isn't a large amount with food)
Some like me, could drink a phenomenol amount of vodka everyday, but still appear sober and function.
The fact is, our bodies and minds are different. A 'one size fits all' approach for addiction to anything requires an individual approach.
That's why I would always recommend seeking professional advice.

Ther first step of realising that there is a problem and getting help is perhaps the most difficult.
Alcohol is such a big part of our culture. It's difficult to avoid it. We celebrate special occasions with it. We go to the pub after work for a nice quiet pint and a chat.
We have a glass of wine when we go to a restaurant, etc etc..

If I'm introduced to someone new in a social setting, and am offered a drink, I fucking find myself apologising eg "Sorry, I don't drink alcohol", Then sometimes get weird looks. I just say "I can't. I'm driving".

When you stop drinking, you'll notice just how strange drunk people look and sound. Also that booze is EVERYWHERE.
It's not just the cost to one's own health. I used to get into street fights, arguments over nothing when I was shitfaced.
Also falling over and cracking my head etc..

I'm not against anyone enjoying alcohol. It can be good in moderation as it reduces inhibition and oils the wheels of social interaction.
But it is a very dangerous drug. I simply can't drink in moderation. So I abstain completely.

This is wrong.

I'm genetically predisposed to it. Hundreds of studies have proven that alcohol abuse is mostly inherited.

It's not "hysteria." You clearly have never been around heavy compulsive drinkers.

Ex alcoholics aren't "pretending" anything you fucking idiot. It has a massive affect on the brain. Most alcoholics and drug addicts NEVER manage to stop, they relapse again and again.

This is why the whole liberal "send druggies to rehab" meme is bullshit. >95% of rehab patients relapse. Rehab usually doesn't work. But some drinkers manage to quit after many tries or at least get their vice in order enough to function.

Yes. I can only really speak honestly about my own experience.
Drinking regularly in the morning is a definite sign that something is very wrong.
The thing is alcohol impairs judgement so we may not THINK anything is wrong and convince ourselves of that.

My social worker told me that there's a 9 times out of 10 probability that there's an underlying psychological reason for excessive drinking. For me that is certainly true - some nasty shit I experienced in the military, and the sudden loss of my wife.
I didn't know it at the time, but these things drilled into my soul and I just said "I'm OK. Nothing wrong with me". All the time it was eating away at me. Booze was liquid painkiller.

I saw admitting to a problem as weakness -"I'm a strong lad. I can handle anything".
Addressing deep rooted mind problems and sorting them out is not weakness. It is bravery.

When my father died at age 56 from his alcoholism.

The coroner took what I thought was the unusual step of calling me personally (he had already worked everything out with my mother) and pleading with me in a very genuine and heartfelt way to understand that this is a genetic condition and I am at risk. At the time, I thought he was full of shit, and now I think about that phone call all the time as I drink 12-18 beers a night. I'm only 26, and I can already see myself following a worse path than my father. I can't bring myself to stop at the moment (very stressful seasonal job, depression). I guess I'll wait for my day of reckoning.

Thanks for sharing your story and I'm glad you are better now

Thanks for sharing your story. It means a lot to this younger, random drunk that isn't as far down that road as you. I'm glad you're better now.

>But this hysteria about it kinda gets on my nerves and I think it's not healthy.
I totally agree.
See my >it will be certainly true once you drink something by accident.
Well, this has happened to me. I was drinking a non-alcohol lager in a pub. I picked up someone elses bottle and had a mouthful.
I realised my mistake. Apologised to the lad whose bottle I mistook and bought him a fresh one.
What I'm getting at is that I mustn't start ordering myself a pint in the pub. I know I'll get hooked again. I'm very strict about this.
>this has nothing to do with physical addiction
It is for me. Otherwise I wouldn't have suffered terrible withdrawal. M8, we're all different.

I became very interested in how alcohol affects different races, or even lactose tolerance/intolerance.
East Asians seem to have a genetic predisposition to being very sensitive to alcohol, wheras North Europeans don't.
As far as I can tell, this is to do with water sanitation in ancient times. North Eurpoeans would ferment hops, barley to make beer. It was probably very weak, but it was safe to drink. East Asians would use various medicinal plants and tea to make the water safe.
Therefore we built up a tolerance to it and they didn't.
It's an interesting theory but more complicated than I can summarise in a post.
The things that I experienced in the Army were truly horrific. And I buried it. My wife dying was also very fucking hard. It was so sudden - she was fit and healthy, but she had undiagnosed heart problems. I had to formally indentify the body. It took something deep away from me. Of course I now had to be mum and dad to our daughter - so I ignored my pain and got got on with things as best as I could.
I'm still a bit fucked up by it all - nightmares and other stuff like avoiding busy places.
I get support from military charities - Royal British Legion, Combat Stress and the NHS.

I'm pleased you read my posts. I'm 49. I'd like to say age doesn't matter, but it does.
Sorrry to hear about your dad.
>There but for the grace of God go I.

I can't emphasise enough that we are all different when it comes to this addiction.
You are young so you are likely to be fitter than me - you'll notice things slowing down as you age.
My advice would be to get help as soon as you can. Proper professional help from people who are experts. I know healthcare is expensive in your country, but surely for addictions it's possible to get reduced rates or free care. I just don't know the American system. But get help when you are ready. Stopping is difficult, but the rewards are much greater than any wihdrawal. Better self-esteem, more money in your pocket, greater confidence, a sharper mind and so on.

Best wishes mate.

I'm not saying that alcohol is not physically addictive. I'm just saying it's not the physical that makes you drink or that drives you into the addiction. It's mostly a mental problem. I couldn't tell you one single person that was just casually drinking or even heavy drinking every weekend for fun, who got hooked. It was always people who had real issues, either shit happened in their lifes or they simply have some mental health problems.

So basically what I'm saying is, you could get the same problem with gaming, sex, porn, any other type of drug or maybe even invent something new. It's mostly always the same system and has to do with dopamine and or gaba. So it was certainly important to get rid of the physical addiction, but it's way more important to find out the root of your problems and try to solve those as good as possible. Otherwise it won't be long until you are hooked on something again.

kudos to you, it's a really heartbreaking story and I'm glad that you made it true.

I also think that addiction is a very interesting topic and there certainly are very different types and reason behind it all. I'm not sure how much the tale about the native americans is accurate. But it seems they have a very strong reaction to alcohol. But then again, maybe they are just extremely depressed because of all the shit they went true. And after all, because they have nothing better to do anymore. It's a very tragic story of how a whole race can basically just disappear over a short period of time and people really wonder what happened to neanderthals if you can clearly see it happening right here and now.